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(Salon)   Did 50 honorary doctorates give Maya Angelou the right to call herself "Dr. Angelou"? If you answered no, you're a racist   (salon.com ) divider line
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2014-06-03 11:47:54 AM  
www.brianmay.com
Ladies and Gents, Dr Brian May recieving his Phd at Imperial college. In astrophysics of all things.
 
2014-06-03 11:48:38 AM  
How long did you spend making your neat little list?

I bet you've got an impressive ignore list and all kinds of cool color codes for other farkers.

Actually, you're the only one I have color coded in this whole thread, and it's entirely an accident.  Someone in another thread was claiming climate change deniers change their stories, so I went back through the idiots, and marked them all with the arguments they were making(the results of my research was just that they were diverse morons, not giant hypocrites).  Yours was a particularly stupid "Scientists will change their minds in 30 years because I'm a magic prognosticator", if you didn't know already.



Farking spot on!  Thanks for the confirmation.
 
2014-06-03 11:49:01 AM  
Doctor Maya Eyes Angelou. A musical tribute by Jackson Browne.
 
2014-06-03 11:49:02 AM  

nickdaisy: Maya Angelou was incredibly overrated and didn't deserve 1/100th the attention she received.

And as long as we're on be subject, Martin Luther King Jr wasn't exactly a respected academic, either.



Neither were George W. Bush or Sarah Palin. You weren't worried about intelligence when you voted for them. Oh, let me guess...you voted for Obama? Lol
 
2014-06-03 11:49:19 AM  

AllYourFarkAreBelongToMe: /Bill Cosby has at least one honorary doctorate.  I don't see him running around referring to himself as, Dr. Bill Cosby.


Really? because he does that exact thing all the time - and I think he's the only person who annoys me when he does it, because he thinks it gives him free license to talk about the kids today with the rap and the hip hop and the this and the that and the Theo where is Cockroach with the Jell-o Pudding Pops and the zerberts blahhhhzzzzingsahh.
 
2014-06-03 11:50:16 AM  

topcon: But forget all that - - she was lauded as being a SUPER AMAZING POETESS. When it's obvious even her best known works were absolute shiat.


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2014-06-03 11:50:31 AM  

doubled99: Farking spot on! Thanks for the confirmation.


Yeah, I'm so worried about judgement from your psychicness.  Please don't destroy my mind with your devesting mental powers.

 I'm sorry you're so apparently "not racist", as to be butthurt over something that didn't address you at all.

//They never know they're morons.
 
2014-06-03 11:51:43 AM  
topcon: *Another post about hating something associated with black people*

Ok. We get it.
 
2014-06-03 11:52:44 AM  

someonelse: topcon: But forget all that - - she was lauded as being a SUPER AMAZING POETESS. When it's obvious even her best known works were absolute shiat.

[img.fark.net image 321x360]


Stop saying criticism isn't valid with that lameass cliched picture.
 
2014-06-03 11:52:57 AM  

untaken_name: Snarfangel: I think only philosophers should be granted Ph.D's.

What *is* a philosopher, really?


More importantly: why?
 
2014-06-03 11:53:00 AM  

topcon: The main issue with Maya Angelou is the fact her poetry is simply horrible.  It's not good.  Where did all the acclaim come from?  We know the answer, of course, and it wasn't because she was an amazing writer, she wasn't.


The main issue that you seem to have never learned the difference between "opinion" and "fact" in elementary school. You might consider finding your first or second grade teacher and asking about the disservice that teacher did to you.

You're making a judgment call on art - merely an opinion - and stating it as some sort of incontrovertible fact. Guess what, people might like and see merit in stuff you don't like. I certainly like Bacon's Figure with Meat, but the next person might not. But that doesn't make my opinion valid and the other person's opinions invalid.
 
2014-06-03 11:54:17 AM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: topcon: *Another post about hating something associated with black people*

Ok. We get it.


It must suck constantly getting the equivalent of gold stars (to use someone's analogy) based purely on your race.  Put Maya Angelou's poetry in a vacuum detached from the person who wrote it and no one would care about it.
 
2014-06-03 11:56:17 AM  

Clemkadidlefark: I hate her because she was always blubbering anti-Semitic crap, her work and support of the Nation of Islam and opening her 'classes' in Arabic, slamming the Jews.

She was a Grade A +++ icon of the leftist puke bags


Awww. Someone's got a crush on Deb Schlussel.
 
2014-06-03 11:56:20 AM  

topcon: DROxINxTHExWIND: topcon: *Another post about hating something associated with black people*

Ok. We get it.

It must suck constantly getting the equivalent of gold stars (to use someone's analogy) based purely on your race.  Put Maya Angelou's poetry in a vacuum detached from the person who wrote it and no one would care about it.



In space, no one can hear you rhyme.
 
2014-06-03 11:56:53 AM  
i.imgur.com
 
2014-06-03 11:57:03 AM  
No. Hopefully her death will spearhead the effort to stop forcing children to read her shiatty book though. That was my most hated part of 9th grade English
 
2014-06-03 11:57:24 AM  

demarke: FLMountainMan: Sybarite: Every use of Dr. before you're name when you are not an M.D. is pretentious.

Yep.  So is signing "Esq." (unless you really need to emphasize or clarify that you are writing the letter as a legal representative for someone)

As an Esq, I totally agree

.

Not only that, but it is grammatically incorrect to refer to yourself as Esquire. Rather, in the US it may (and should) be used when addressing another attorney. Here in the Northeast, it's commonplace, however.

http://www.grammarphobia.com/blog/2010/06/is-it-proper-to-refer-to-o ne self-as-esq.html
 
2014-06-03 11:57:35 AM  
Farking spot on! Thanks for the confirmation.

Yeah, I'm so worried about judgement from your psychicness.  Please don't destroy my mind with your devesting mental powers.


The fun part is you will actually stew half the day over this and other random comments. Enjoy your day!
 
2014-06-03 11:58:56 AM  
My favorite story about Mike Tyson (yeah, that Mike Tyson) being awarded an honorary doctorate:

High school drop out, boxing champion, jailbird and honorary doctor, Mike Tyson upset his hosts at Central State University when making his acceptance speech. "I wasn't sure what kind of doctor I was, but looking at all the lovely sisters here, I think I'll be a doctor of gynecology," he said.


I give his "Doctorate" the same weight I give Angelou's.
 
2014-06-03 12:00:05 PM  
*checks Miss Manners*

No one properly introduces themselves socially via a title.  First name, last name, is what everyone should use to introduce themselves.  So correcting other people who call you "Mr./Ms." and insisting they call you "Dr." is technically a no-no for everyone.  This goes for all titles, not just ones based on degrees.

Medical practitioners who complete undergraduate medical education (MDs, DOs, DDMs, and so forth) may be properly introduced by other people, socially and professionally, as "Dr. So and So."

Everyone else gets to list their degrees and certifications after their names.  If you have a PhD, introducing yourself socially as "Dr." is a no-no on two counts, but in professional settings, on business cards, etc., it's perfectly fine to list the PhD.  Many medical professionals have multiple degrees and certifications and list them all out on their business cards - MD, FACP, etc. I know quite a few RN/PhD and RN/MDs.

Some business and academic settings deviate from this.  The arena in which I work introduces both physicians and doctorate holders as "Dr."  Some universities use "Professor" for all instructors, regardless of titles held. In the Netherlands, they use (or used to use) the Dutch version of "Professor Doctor" for professors who hold PhDs, which sounds rather swanky.

/pedantic, but I have to be
 
2014-06-03 12:00:29 PM  

farkeruk: NobleHam: Is it really pretension to use an honorific that more than 50 universities have gone out of the way to express that you deserve?

Yes, it is. If 50 universities think she deserves an honorary doctorate, it still means that no university has granted her an actual doctorate.

And "going out of their way"? How much do you think it costs for a university to grant an honorary doctorate?



The important thing to remember her is that with all that farkeruk has contributed to society and the greater good, it is he DUTY to shiat on any "undeserved" accomplishment.
 
2014-06-03 12:01:16 PM  

topcon: DROxINxTHExWIND: topcon: *Another post about hating something associated with black people*

Ok. We get it.

It must suck constantly getting the equivalent of gold stars (to use someone's analogy) based purely on your race.  Put Maya Angelou's poetry in a vacuum detached from the person who wrote it and no one would care about it.



But, we DO care about it because...?
 
2014-06-03 12:01:20 PM  

Sybarite: Every use of Dr. before you're name when you are not an M.D. is pretentious.


Isaac Asimov was once asked by a young lady if he was "a real doctor, or just a PhD."  He decided that "PhD" stood for "Phony Doctor."
 
2014-06-03 12:01:26 PM  

stonicus: Marcus Aurelius: Sybarite: Every use of Dr. before you're name when you are not an M.D. is pretentious.

^ This.  If you have a PhD and insist on being called "doctor", you are most likely a complete moron that wishes they were actually intelligent.

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I bet you absolutely hate this guy.
(He's only an honorary Kentucky Colonel)



It's an insult to real southern colonels like the great Colonel Angus.

s.yimg.com
 
2014-06-03 12:01:46 PM  
Ben Franklin was styled as Dr. Franklin after he received an honorary doctorate from the College of William and Mary. Of course, you recall, Franklin had little formal secondary education and was primarily a printer's apprentice during his adolescence. He was given the honorary doctorate because of his contributions to science and learning. Is Maya Angelou really that different? Is she somehow not worthy of the same honor for her contributions to literature?
 
2014-06-03 12:02:33 PM  

topcon: someonelse: topcon: But forget all that - - she was lauded as being a SUPER AMAZING POETESS. When it's obvious even her best known works were absolute shiat.

[img.fark.net image 321x360]

Stop saying criticism isn't valid with that lameass cliched picture.


Hey, there's plenty of valid criticism of her work. I'm not even a huge fan of her writing, although some of it did resonate with me. Your post, however, offered nothing in the way of valid criticism. You posted a bunch of links and a copy-paste. I actually doubt you've ever read anything of hers. Calling her overrated just fits into your agenda for whatever reason. Or maybe it  just annoys you that people like something you don't want them to like, and the meme is perfectly suited to you.
 
2014-06-03 12:02:49 PM  
Queen Latifah isn't really a queen, either.
 
2014-06-03 12:03:40 PM  

kortex: No. Hopefully her death will spearhead the effort to stop forcing children to read her shiatty book though. That was my most hated part of 9th grade English


iat looks like English was your "most hated" part about 9th grade English.
 
2014-06-03 12:04:16 PM  
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static.comicvine.com
 
2014-06-03 12:04:26 PM  
cdn2.thelineofbestfit.com
 
2014-06-03 12:04:30 PM  

dave2198: Marcus Aurelius: Sybarite: Every use of Dr. before you're name when you are not an M.D. is pretentious.

^ This.  If you have a PhD and insist on being called "doctor", you are most likely a complete moron that wishes they were actually intelligent.

Actually, you two have it backwards. M.D.'s don't do original research. Medical practitioners are the ones adopting the "Dr." out of place. :)



This.
They are meat mechanics who rely on the body's self-repair to do most of the work.
 
2014-06-03 12:05:37 PM  
 
2014-06-03 12:06:27 PM  

UtileDysfunktion: Queen Latifah isn't really a queen, either.


And Prince Fielder isn't really a fielder.
 
2014-06-03 12:07:06 PM  

nickdaisy: Maya Angelou was incredibly overrated and didn't deserve 1/100th the attention she received.


What about her work did you find lacking?

And as long as we're on be subject, Martin Luther King Jr wasn't exactly a respected academic, either.

At the risk of understating the obvious, Dr. King was not exactly known best for his academic achievements.  What was the point of that statement?
 
2014-06-03 12:07:19 PM  

AllYourFarkAreBelongToMe: Why is this even a debate? It's very simple. If you can't prescribe medicine, you're not a doctor.


Nurse Practitioners can prescribe medication. Are they doctors?
 
2014-06-03 12:07:31 PM  

Boxcutta: demarke: FLMountainMan: Sybarite: Every use of Dr. before you're name when you are not an M.D. is pretentious.

Yep.  So is signing "Esq." (unless you really need to emphasize or clarify that you are writing the letter as a legal representative for someone)

As an Esq, I totally agree.

Not only that, but it is grammatically incorrect to refer to yourself as Esquire. Rather, in the US it may (and should) be used when addressing another attorney. Here in the Northeast, it's commonplace, however.

http://www.grammarphobia.com/blog/2010/06/is-it-proper-to-refer-to-o ne self-as-esq.html


Says you.

s3.media.squarespace.com
 
2014-06-03 12:09:14 PM  

GnomePaladin: nickdaisy: Maya Angelou was incredibly overrated and didn't deserve 1/100th the attention she received.

What about her work did you find lacking?

And as long as we're on be subject, Martin Luther King Jr wasn't exactly a respected academic, either.

At the risk of understating the obvious, Dr. King was not exactly known best for his academic achievements.  What was the point of that statement?


I think he took 'black people that I think only got appreciated only because they were black' for 200, Alex.
 
2014-06-03 12:11:33 PM  

give me doughnuts: AllYourFarkAreBelongToMe: Why is this even a debate? It's very simple. If you can't prescribe medicine, you're not a doctor.

Nurse Practitioners can prescribe medication. Are they doctors?



Only if P=NP

(Physician equals Nurse Practitioner, obviously)
 
2014-06-03 12:11:40 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: HeartBurnKid: Marcus Aurelius: Sybarite: Every use of Dr. before you're name when you are not an M.D. is pretentious.

^ This.  If you have a PhD and insist on being called "doctor", you are most likely a complete moron that wishes they were actually intelligent.

Yeah, what does Neil DeGrasse Tyson know anyway?

Neil DeGrasse Tyson, as far as I know, does not insist that you call him "doctor".


Did Maya Angelou?
 
2014-06-03 12:11:48 PM  

RexTalionis: topcon: The main issue with Maya Angelou is the fact her poetry is simply horrible.  It's not good.  Where did all the acclaim come from?  We know the answer, of course, and it wasn't because she was an amazing writer, she wasn't.

The main issue that you seem to have never learned the difference between "opinion" and "fact" in elementary school. You might consider finding your first or second grade teacher and asking about the disservice that teacher did to you.

You're making a judgment call on art - merely an opinion - and stating it as some sort of incontrovertible fact. Guess what, people might like and see merit in stuff you don't like. I certainly like Bacon's Figure with Meat, but the next person might not. But that doesn't make my opinion valid and the other person's opinions invalid.


This thread is f%cking *full* of people confusing "fact" for "opinion",on both sides of this stupid f%cking argument. If you don;t like her, you don;t like her. If you love her, that's wonderful for you as well.

Neither position is "right or wrong", but still true to each person.
 
2014-06-03 12:11:54 PM  

tricycleracer: Marcus Aurelius: Sybarite: Every use of Dr. before you're name when you are not an M.D. is pretentious.

^ This.  If you have a PhD and insist on being called "doctor", you are most likely a complete moron that wishes they were actually intelligent.

[www.sweeneypr.com image 580x326]


So much for Dr. Martin Luther King huh Marcus Aurelius?  You racist.

- Just kidding, I don't care.
 
2014-06-03 12:15:00 PM  
I took an EE class in college. The instructor was also a long-haired metalhead guitarist with an insane gear collection who built pedals and stuff in his spare time. He came into the first lecture wearing a hockey jersey and began by talking for what seemed like 5 minutes about how to refer to him. The tl;dr version: "I have a PhD, but all that means is I achieved a certain level of knowledge in my field. I'm really uncomfortable with formal titles. Like, really, really, really uncomfortable. Please don't call me Dr. So-and-so or even Mr. So-and-so. Just call me Tom, like everyone else does. If you feel you must call me Dr. out of respect or whatever, I'll understand, but I really prefer you call me Tom." It was almost comically long-winded and a little strange in a "show me on this doll where the word 'Doctor' touched you" sort of way, but he turned out to be a cool, down-to-earth, guy and a good instructor. It was a nice change of pace from the "I have a PhD, therefore I'm better than you" people I had to work with at that university on a daily basis.
 
2014-06-03 12:17:23 PM  

GnomePaladin: nickdaisy: Maya Angelou was incredibly overrated and didn't deserve 1/100th the attention she received.

What about her work did you find lacking?

And as long as we're on be subject, Martin Luther King Jr wasn't exactly a respected academic, either.

At the risk of understating the obvious, Dr. King was not exactly known best for his academic achievements.  What was the point of that statement?


It seems he plagiarized his Doctoral Thesis or much of it.. so claims Dr. David Duke who received his Ph.D on the internet from a school in the Ukraine.
 
2014-06-03 12:21:17 PM  

farkeruk: NobleHam: Is it really pretension to use an honorific that more than 50 universities have gone out of the way to express that you deserve?

Yes, it is. If 50 universities think she deserves an honorary doctorate, it still means that no university has granted her an actual doctorate.

And "going out of their way"? How much do you think it costs for a university to grant an honorary doctorate?


I got charged $19 for my (B.A) diploma, but that was a while ago. Prices have probably gone up a bit. The robe, hood, and funny hat for my M.L.S. cost $125.
So I'm guessing it doesn't cost much.
 
2014-06-03 12:22:18 PM  
Of course she's a Doctor. She hung out with Dr. Johnson....

http://titsandsass.com/the-erasure-of-maya-angelou/
 
Bf+
2014-06-03 12:23:00 PM  

someonelse: UtileDysfunktion: Queen Latifah isn't really a queen, either.

And Prince Fielder isn't really a fielder.



Congrats you evoked a LLOL.
That there is genius.
 
2014-06-03 12:25:37 PM  

Snarfangel: give me doughnuts: AllYourFarkAreBelongToMe: Why is this even a debate? It's very simple. If you can't prescribe medicine, you're not a doctor.

Nurse Practitioners can prescribe medication. Are they doctors?


Only if P=NP

(Physician equals Nurse Practitioner, obviously)


Depending what state you are in, NPs can prescribe medications, as long as it is within their scope of practice.
 
2014-06-03 12:28:20 PM  

Sybarite: Every use of Dr. before you're name when you are not an M.D. is pretentious.


Seconded. I have a PhD in physics and cringe to hear myself referred to as "Doctor".

/other than for the party after your defense, everyone has fun referring to each other as doctor on that day, and that day only....
 
2014-06-03 12:30:49 PM  
ts2.mm.bing.net
 
2014-06-03 12:31:14 PM  
Overrated
 
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