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(Salon)   Did 50 honorary doctorates give Maya Angelou the right to call herself "Dr. Angelou"? If you answered no, you're a racist   (salon.com) divider line 548
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2014-06-03 09:38:13 AM  
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2014-06-03 09:41:10 AM  

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2014-06-03 09:49:03 AM  
From Wikipedia:

"In some countries, recipients of an honorary doctorate may, if they wish, adopt the title of 'Doctor'. Many universities, however, request that an honorary graduate refrain from such practice.

A typical example of university regulations is, 'Honorary graduates may use the approved post-nominal letters. It is not customary, however, for recipients of an honorary doctorate to adopt the prefix 'Dr.' "


So I guess the answer is, whether you should use that title depends on which university awarded it to you.

But since this lady was awarded 50 of them from various schools, then she surely had the right to use the title.
 
2014-06-03 09:56:17 AM  
Dr. Stephen Colbert D.F.A. disagrees.
 
2014-06-03 09:56:42 AM  
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2014-06-03 09:57:17 AM  

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Dr. Stephen Colbert D.F.A. disagrees.


Damnit, you.
 
2014-06-03 10:01:21 AM  
If you were awarded an honorary doctorate from some big froo froo school that didn't want you to use the 'Dr.' prefix, then you should just go get another one from Uncle Earl's Hairdo and Nail College, too.
 
2014-06-03 10:03:35 AM  
If you think an honorary doctorate doesn't give Maya Angelou the right to call herself "Doctor," that's a perfectly legitimate opinion.

If your first reaction to Maya Angelou's death is pointing out that she's "not a real doctor," you're probably a racist.
 
2014-06-03 10:15:01 AM  
Every use of Dr. before you're name when you are not an M.D. is pretentious.
 
2014-06-03 10:18:19 AM  

Sybarite: Every use of Dr. before you're name when you are not an M.D. is pretentious.


^ This.  If you have a PhD and insist on being called "doctor", you are most likely a complete moron that wishes they were actually intelligent.
 
2014-06-03 10:27:59 AM  

Sybarite: Every use of Dr. before you're name when you are not an M.D. is pretentious.


What about a DDS or DVM ?
 
2014-06-03 10:40:31 AM  
She's dead, who cares?
 
2014-06-03 10:40:56 AM  

borg: Sybarite: Every use of Dr. before you're name when you are not an M.D. is pretentious.

What about a DDS or DVM ?


My D.O. friend uses Dr. before his name.
 
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2014-06-03 10:42:06 AM  
I don't care, I'm still naming my son "Dr. Judge Bf+ the Third, PHD"
 
2014-06-03 10:42:31 AM  
Try calling the restaurant guy in whites a cook, talk about misplaced sensitivity.
 
2014-06-03 10:42:48 AM  

Sybarite: Every use of Dr. before you're name when you are not an M.D. is pretentious.


What if you're a Gallifreyan Time Lord?
 
2014-06-03 10:43:30 AM  
A rose by any other name would smell just as sweet.
 
2014-06-03 10:43:39 AM  
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It's Dr. Evil, I didn't spend six years in Evil Medical School to be called "mister," thank you very much.
 
2014-06-03 10:44:45 AM  

Sybarite: Every use of Dr. before you're name when you are not an M.D. is pretentious.


Yep.  So is signing "Esq." (unless you really need to emphasize or clarify that you are writing the letter as a legal representative for someone)
 
2014-06-03 10:44:49 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: Sybarite: Every use of Dr. before you're name when you are not an M.D. is pretentious.

^ This.  If you have a PhD and insist on being called "doctor", you are most likely a complete moron that wishes they were actually intelligent.


My former boss didn't want to be called doctor or have phd attached to his name on correspondence... Unless he was writing to someone who on his estimation would be impressed by or care about that kind of nonsense. It was actually kind of fun when he'd return some of the letters I drafted, so that I may add 'phd'. It basically would let me know which government officials he thought were idiots.
 
2014-06-03 10:46:18 AM  
Maya Angelou was incredibly overrated and didn't deserve 1/100th the attention she received.

And as long as we're on be subject, Martin Luther King Jr wasn't exactly a respected academic, either.
 
2014-06-03 10:46:55 AM  

borg: Sybarite: Every use of Dr. before you're name when you are not an M.D. is pretentious.

What about a DDS or DVM ?


If you refuse to call a DDS a Dr., you're a rabid anti-dentite!
 
2014-06-03 10:47:11 AM  
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2014-06-03 10:48:01 AM  
"Brittney Cooper is a contributing writer at Salon, and teaches Women's and Gender Studies and Africana Studies at Rutgers."
'nuf said.
 
2014-06-03 10:48:52 AM  
Of course she has the right to demand that people refer to her as "Dr.".

I have the right to demand that people refer to me as "Your Holiness".

Nobody is under any obligation to call me anything at all, nor forbidden from calling me whatever they want.

Therefore, this entire discussion is stupid.
 
2014-06-03 10:48:58 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: Sybarite: Every use of Dr. before you're name when you are not an M.D. is pretentious.

^ This.  If you have a PhD and insist on being called "doctor", you are most likely a complete moron that wishes they were actually intelligent.


Yeah, what does Neil DeGrasse Tyson know anyway?
 
2014-06-03 10:48:59 AM  
I see Doctorum Adamus Cum Flabello Dulce earns me a pretentious title... excellent....
 
2014-06-03 10:49:12 AM  

sigdiamond2000: If you think an honorary doctorate doesn't give Maya Angelou the right to call herself "Doctor," that's a perfectly legitimate opinion.

If your first reaction to Maya Angelou's death is pointing out that she's "not a real doctor," you're probably a racist.


Pretty much this.
 
2014-06-03 10:49:16 AM  

kbronsito: It basically would let me know which government officials he thought were idiots.


I'm gonna go out on a limb here...all of 'em?
 
2014-06-03 10:49:44 AM  

Mambo Bananapatch: Of course she has the right to demand that people refer to her as "Dr.".

I have the right to demand that people refer to me as "Your Holiness".

Nobody is under any obligation to call me anything at all, nor forbidden from calling me whatever they want.

Therefore, this entire discussion is stupid.


"had"
 
2014-06-03 10:49:52 AM  

Mambo Bananapatch: Of course she has the right to demand that people refer to her as "Dr.".

I have the right to demand that people refer to me as "Your Holiness".

Nobody is under any obligation to call me anything at all, nor forbidden from calling me whatever they want.

Therefore, this entire discussion is stupid.


Did she ever demand it, or did others simply do it as a sign of respect?
 
2014-06-03 10:49:54 AM  

sigdiamond2000: If you think an honorary doctorate doesn't give Maya Angelou the right to call herself "Doctor," that's a perfectly legitimate opinion.

If your first reaction to Maya Angelou's death is pointing out that she's "not a real doctor," you're probably a racist.


What if you think she's a lousy poet, and wildly overrated? Is that racist too?

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2014-06-03 10:51:25 AM  

nickdaisy: And as long as we're on be subject, Martin Luther King Jr wasn't exactly a respected academic, either.


That's Dr. M. L. King to you, asshole.
 
2014-06-03 10:51:52 AM  
It isn't racist to point out that an honorary doctorate is nothing more than the equivalent of "the key to the city". It was pretentious of her to use Dr. just as it is pretentious for anyone with an honorary doctorate to use it regardless of race.
 
2014-06-03 10:51:57 AM  

Sybarite: Every use of Dr. before you're name when you are not an M.D. is pretentious.


The first rule is that it replaces "Mr."/"Ms."  Normally when you're talking to other people, including co-workers, you don't insist on being called "Mr."/"Ms.", so the title is irrelevant.

The second rule is that it only matters in a professional context, not for restaurant reservations and other BS.  Oooh.  You have a Ph.D.  Sadly for you, you need the same amount of food as the rest of us, so get in line and keep it to yourself.

The third rule is that you never correct anyone for yourself, because it makes you look worse than just not having the title.

Am I being introduced at a business meeting?  Am I picking a signature for a work email to someone that doesn't already know me?  Then I'm Dr. _ninja.  Otherwise, it never gets used.
 
2014-06-03 10:52:02 AM  

sigdiamond2000: If your first reaction to Maya Angelou's death is pointing out that she's "not a real doctor," you're probably a racist.


If she was white and you pointed it out, would you still be a racist?
 
2014-06-03 10:52:21 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: Sybarite: Every use of Dr. before you're name when you are not an M.D. is pretentious.

^ This.  If you have a PhD and insist on being called "doctor", you are most likely a complete moron that wishes they were actually intelligent.


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2014-06-03 10:53:25 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: Sybarite: Every use of Dr. before you're name when you are not an M.D. is pretentious.

^ This.  If you have a PhD and insist on being called "doctor", you are most likely a complete moron that wishes they were actually intelligent.


I don't intend to insist on being called Dr., but I think anyone who got a PhD by apprenticing under a professor and doing original research has every right to be called Dr. That's what it used to mean. M.D.s co-opted it when they were actually something like apprentices. Now it's just a professional certificate, so why not let the DDSs, ODs, DOs, and EdDs further sully the title?
 
2014-06-03 10:53:50 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: Sybarite: Every use of Dr. before you're name when you are not an M.D. is pretentious.

^ This.  If you have a PhD and insist on being called "doctor", you are most likely a complete moron that wishes they were actually intelligent.


A moron with a lot of expensive education.
 
2014-06-03 10:53:59 AM  

Sybarite: Every use of Dr. before you're name when you are not an M.D. is pretentious.


If your MD is from an American or Canadian institution, it's not a doctorate, and you shouldn't call yourself a doctor at all. Research physicians have a separate Ph.D. that's a real doctorate.
 
2014-06-03 10:54:07 AM  

sigdiamond2000: If you think an honorary doctorate doesn't give Maya Angelou the right to call herself "Doctor," that's a perfectly legitimate opinion.

If your first reaction to Maya Angelou's death is pointing out that she's "not a real doctor," you're probably a racist.


Did she play one on TV?

/And which antacid did she recommend?
 
2014-06-03 10:54:27 AM  
I agree with Dr. Cooper's point, of course. At the very least, Angelou shouldn't have to be attacked within days of her death, FFS.

Angelou is also overrated as a writer outside of her important contributions to feminism, civil rights, and personal identity, though, and I think that is what causes people like this Oppenheimer person to say rude things. I wouldn't call a first read through of "I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings" at the college level "grappling," for instance.
 
2014-06-03 10:54:33 AM  
If you mean she's a doctor like Dr. Pepper is a doctor, then yes she's a doctor.
 
2014-06-03 10:55:15 AM  
An honorary doctorate still has more merit than one obtained from Liberty University.
 
2014-06-03 10:56:28 AM  
It has zero to do with being black, and everything to do with the fact I think anyone who gets upset at not being called doctor for their PhD is petty.  Lawyers have just as much right to be called "Doctor" but they don't biatch about it.

Also, FTA: To him and his ridiculousness, I say, "Oppenheimer, be for real." I have an earned doctorateBe for real?
 
2014-06-03 10:57:08 AM  
My last family doctor never introduced himself as Doctor.  He was always Ron.  And he had graduated near the top of his class, magna cum laude.  The younger generation of dentists also seem to be more comfortable just using first names, or Dr. first name, rather than the formal Dr. last name.
 
2014-06-03 10:57:23 AM  

Coming on a Bicycle: "Brittney Cooper is a contributing writer at Salon, and teaches Women's and Gender Studies and Africana Studies at Rutgers."
'nuf said.


Yes, because people who are less privileged then you (or study this lack of privilege) have opinions that don't matter.

Come to think of it, that's a perfect encapsulation of privileged thinking! Good job!
 
2014-06-03 10:57:33 AM  
Brittney Cooper  teaches Women's and Gender Studies and Africana Studies at Rutgers.

Dr. Cooper's comments also included this gem about the asshats at Westboro protesting the funeral.

"Are black women not allowed dignity in death? Must their funerals become a brawl and a ruckus?Are black women not allowed dignity in death? Must their funerals become a brawl and a ruckus?"

Hey Doc. No everything is about race and sex. Those morons hate everyone and not everything has to be viewed though a prism of race and sex.
 
2014-06-03 10:57:40 AM  

Sybarite: Every use of Dr. before you're name when you are not an M.D. is pretentious.


Dr. was a religious & academic title before physicians adopted it (the original English word for a medical practitioner being "leech"). In fact it comes from the Latin word for "teacher",

Insisting on it non-professionally is a bit pretentious, but that's true for medical doctors too.
 
2014-06-03 10:58:33 AM  

Rurouni: If you mean she's a doctor like Dr. Pepper is a doctor, then yes she's a doctor.


Strangely enough, it's officially just "Dr Pepper", not "Dr. Pepper".  I think we've been pronouncing it wrong all this time.
 
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