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(Hardball Talk)   If you guessed June 1 for the first MLB double replay challenge on a single play, you'd be safe   (hardballtalk.nbcsports.com ) divider line
    More: Unlikely, Nats, Elvis Andrus, Stephen Drew, Yu Darvish, Triple-A, second bases, Red Sox  
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2014-06-02 03:32:04 PM  
Even more unlikely is the fact that the Nats won both of them.
 
2014-06-02 04:30:06 PM  
Nats put up 19 runs in the first two games then Yu Darvish blanks them. Damn.
 
2014-06-02 04:35:06 PM  
The NFL does this too, only they don't call it that. When the zebras review a play, they review all of it that is reviewable - the final spot, whether the first player to touch the ball had stepped out of bounds, whether the pass was released "behind"* the line of scrimmage, etc.

The difference (I think) in baseball is that the manager has to specify what part(s) of the play they're challenging.

*since, technically, only the tip of a player's shoelace need be behind the line of scrimmage when the ball is released on a forward pass
 
2014-06-02 04:48:07 PM  
Just farking do away with the replay bullshiat....some calls are wrong, most are right.  Get the fark over it.
 
2014-06-02 04:51:05 PM  

Dr Dreidel: The NFL does this too, only they don't call it that. When the zebras review a play, they review all of it that is reviewable - the final spot, whether the first player to touch the ball had stepped out of bounds, whether the pass was released "behind"* the line of scrimmage, etc.

The difference (I think) in baseball is that the manager has to specify what part(s) of the play they're challenging.

*since, technically, only the tip of a player's shoelace need be behind the line of scrimmage when the ball is released on a forward pass


Technically, from what I hear, the MLB umps are supposed to do the same thing.  There was some play in a game I was watching where they went to review if a catcher had applied a tag on a runner at home. During the discussion, while watching the replay, the commentators noticed the runner may not have actually touched the plate, and they did say that the replay is supposed to consider that as well - they're supposed check on all aspects relevant to reversing or upholding the call.

If it took two replays in this case, I guess they viewed it as two separate plays (occurring simultaneously), rather than one.
 
2014-06-02 05:18:08 PM  

chevydeuce: Just farking do away with the replay bullshiat....some calls are wrong, most are right.  Get the fark over it.


This, that, and the other.
 
2014-06-02 05:28:57 PM  

chevydeuce: Just farking do away with the replay bullshiat....some calls are wrong, most are right.  Get the fark over it.


The problem isn't replays, its the way its done.

It shouldn't take more than 30 seconds to reach a descsion either way and if it takes longer then the system isset up by idiots or people who want it to fail. Baseball and American football are slow enough that that time is not wasted with players standing around more than normal.
 
2014-06-02 05:50:04 PM  
I say I was out!
 
2014-06-02 06:40:45 PM  

farkingismybusiness: Nats put up 19 runs in the first two games then Yu Darvish blanks them. Damn.


He's not too bad, from what I hear.
 
2014-06-02 08:00:42 PM  

Norfolking Chance: chevydeuce: Just farking do away with the replay bullshiat....some calls are wrong, most are right.  Get the fark over it.

The problem isn't replays, its the way its done.

It shouldn't take more than 30 seconds to reach a descsion either way and if it takes longer then the system isset up by idiots or people who want it to fail. Baseball and American football are slow enough that that time is not wasted with players standing around more than normal.


I don't get this "the game is too slow" crap. If I'm paying $200 for my family to go to a baseball game, it better take longer than two hours.
 
2014-06-02 10:27:41 PM  

Jakesta: Norfolking Chance: chevydeuce: Just farking do away with the replay bullshiat....some calls are wrong, most are right.  Get the fark over it.

The problem isn't replays, its the way its done.

It shouldn't take more than 30 seconds to reach a descsion either way and if it takes longer then the system isset up by idiots or people who want it to fail. Baseball and American football are slow enough that that time is not wasted with players standing around more than normal.

I don't get this "the game is too slow" crap. If I'm paying $200 for my family to go to a baseball game, it better take longer than two hours.


I will be very curious to get a figure on the average game length when you take all games played in 2014 and compare it to the average MLB game from the last 10 years.  I'm guessing the average will either A) stay close enough to be within a normal range, B) increase but only very slightly.  Maybe C), slight decrease, as fewer manager arguments/ejections that take anywhere from 2-5 minutes.  If there is no increase, or the increase is less than 5 minutes, then I think people complaining about it adding so much extra time just need to STFU.  Less than five minutes is absolutely worth it for getting the calls correct.
 
2014-06-02 10:57:30 PM  
"Upon review, the runner was tagged AFTER he was safely on the base. Therefore he is safe."

"Upon further review, the runner was out of the base path on his way to the base. Therefore he is out."

"Upon even further review, the runner was pushed out of the basepath by Slenderman who had been called up after Fatso McGee got hurt. Therefore the runner is safe"

"Upon ultimate review, the runner is being followed by Slenderman. Therefore he is not safe. At all. Seriously, dude. Run."
 
2014-06-03 07:02:39 AM  
wtf...link goes to page, link on page says to view video click here....clicks.....screen shot... wtf!
 
2014-06-03 07:54:12 AM  

idesofmarch: Dr Dreidel: The NFL does this too, only they don't call it that. When the zebras review a play, they review all of it that is reviewable - the final spot, whether the first player to touch the ball had stepped out of bounds, whether the pass was released "behind"* the line of scrimmage, etc.

The difference (I think) in baseball is that the manager has to specify what part(s) of the play they're challenging.

*since, technically, only the tip of a player's shoelace need be behind the line of scrimmage when the ball is released on a forward pass

Technically, from what I hear, the MLB umps are supposed to do the same thing.  There was some play in a game I was watching where they went to review if a catcher had applied a tag on a runner at home. During the discussion, while watching the replay, the commentators noticed the runner may not have actually touched the plate, and they did say that the replay is supposed to consider that as well - they're supposed check on all aspects relevant to reversing or upholding the call.

If it took two replays in this case, I guess they viewed it as two separate plays (occurring simultaneously), rather than one.


There is a rule if the runner never touches home, but isn't tagged out, it is the same as if he touched home and he is automatically safe upon entering the dugout.
 
2014-06-03 08:51:10 AM  

SlothB77: There is a rule if the runner never touches home, but isn't tagged out, it is the same as if he touched home and he is automatically safe upon entering the dugout.


I don't think that's the rule.  I believe you can do an appeal before the next pitch.
 
2014-06-03 12:12:09 PM  
I'm glad that pic linked to the same pic that linked to the same pic. Don't know if I woulda seen the pic without that.
 
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