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(Marketwatch)   Skynet begins to learn at a geometric rate. It becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m. Eastern time, August 29th. In a panic, they try to pull the plug   (marketwatch.com) divider line 27
    More: Interesting, Google, internet, satellite orbit, space systems, Hoping, technical problem, satellites  
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3648 clicks; posted to Geek » on 02 Jun 2014 at 4:54 PM (45 weeks ago)   |  Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



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2014-06-02 02:14:48 PM  
aviationblog.dallasnews.com
 
2014-06-02 02:25:40 PM  

dittybopper: [aviationblog.dallasnews.com image 400x300]


For the win!
 
2014-06-02 03:08:45 PM  

dittybopper: [aviationblog.dallasnews.com image 400x300]


www.quickmeme.com
 
2014-06-02 04:58:40 PM  
It will be over when Google buys SpaceX.
 
2014-06-02 04:58:46 PM  
PSH they could've bought the Clippers for that!
 
2014-06-02 05:06:55 PM  
Where is the link where we can be removed from Google?
 
2014-06-02 05:07:40 PM  
as anyone trademarked the phrase "Iridium II" yet?
 
2014-06-02 05:13:33 PM  
Doonesbury can still occasionally nail it

http://doonesbury.washingtonpost.com/strip/archive/2014/06/01

assets.amuniversal.com
 
2014-06-02 05:16:31 PM  
What 180 satellite @ 5000 km might look like (ISS shown in green)

img.fark.net
 
2014-06-02 05:22:01 PM  
$1 billion for a "fleet" of satellites seems pretty optimistic. Launches are expensive.
 
2014-06-02 05:23:17 PM  
Can't we just ask Google to not return any results with our names?

If they can make a car that drives itself, they can grep our names in search results and not return those, right?

Is it that hard?

Google says "we don't control content on the web, you have to contact the web master of the site you don't want us to show".

But that's not what we asked.

We didn't ask Google to take down the sites, because they can't.

We asked Google not to return results with our names, because they can.
 
2014-06-02 05:24:53 PM  

studebaker hoch: Where is the link where we can be removed from Google?


static.tvtropes.org
 
2014-06-02 05:30:33 PM  

Cybernetic: $1 billion for a "fleet" of satellites seems pretty optimistic. Launches are expensive.


If they can get their weight down to what they're suggesting (250 lbs), and SpaceX drives the launch costs the way they might, it could happen.  They'd put up an entire plane from one launch.  Iridium was putting up 4 per launch and they're in excess of 1000 lbs each IIRC.

What I'm more interested in is the mission ground segment.  This isn't going to be a mobile phone replacement - I don't think you'd want to hold something that can reach out  5000 km up to your ear with an omni antenna.  Which brings up ... have they secured the spectrum for this?  Seems like a bad idea to announce this if they haven't.
 
2014-06-02 05:30:50 PM  
Google can search the web and find all the results that exist.

Then compare it to a list of people who have opted out.

Like a telephone "do not call list", we could have a national registry of people who don't want their names returned on search results.

Not hard to do.
 
2014-06-02 05:40:52 PM  
If we can implement a national "do not call" list, why can't we have a "do not search" list?

If someone opts out, their search results would still be available, but only to someone with a search warrant for that person.

Do you really want Google returning your information to any creep who wants it?
 
2014-06-02 05:45:20 PM  

Nogrhi: dittybopper: [aviationblog.dallasnews.com image 400x300]

For the win!


well done

/strike without hesitation
 
2014-06-02 05:52:58 PM  
studebaker hoch, you do know that all of your comments can fit into one message, right?
 
2014-06-02 05:53:30 PM  

studebaker hoch: Google can search the web and find all the results that exist.

Then compare it to a list of people who have opted out.

Like a telephone "do not call list", we could have a national registry of people who don't want their names returned on search results.

Not hard to do.


What about people with identical names? If one John Smith opts out then do all of them? What if one that was opted out by another decided to opt back in?
 
2014-06-02 06:20:38 PM  
Discordulator

Google can figure out who I am unambigiously by geographic location, email address and more.  That's all they do.

What they seem to be saying is "we have the right to return your name in results" and I'm saying "Please don't do that".  If they respected people, they would comply with our wishes to be left in peace.  If they did not respect people and chose to make a living off their information instead, then they become the paparazzi of the Internet.

Otherwise known as "Professional assholes".
 
2014-06-02 07:28:58 PM  
In order to reach that target date it has to be at an Exponential rate, not Geometric, subby.

/yeah I know, who cares
 
2014-06-02 07:29:13 PM  

studebaker hoch: If we can implement a national "do not call" list, why can't we have a "do not search" list?

If someone opts out, their search results would still be available, but only to someone with a search warrant for that person.

Do you really want Google returning your information to any creep who wants it?


The difference being; as  Discordulator pointed out; is that most likely YOU aren't the only YOU (by name); and Google is global as opposed to regional or national.  In the states my family name is virtually non-existent; but if you go to France where my family came from numerous generations ago; it's still (relatively) common.  It's entirely possible that there is someone there with my EXACT name; who is not me.  The ONLY way to accomplish what you are demanding Google to do....would require YOU to  explicitly list for them every single piece of biographical data about you; and then say "shhh, don't tell anyone."  For someone who is so concerned with privacy you sure seem to want to give a lot of it up.

Google's main product is that of a  search engine; whose purpose is to find, parse, collate; and display on demand information on a given search.  If  you don't want  your information to be found; then  don't put it on the internet  to be found.  Oh; but that means you can't share every damn detail of your life to all 600 farkbook "friends" you have huh?
 
2014-06-02 07:49:18 PM  

studebaker hoch: Discordulator

Google can figure out who I am unambigiously by geographic location, email address and more.  That's all they do.


I forgot to mention; they might know who "you" are by geolocation when you login to your account; but they don't REALLY know whether my search for "Stu deBaker hoch" is in reference to you, a guy in Norway; or a custom Studebaker built by Winton Hoch in his spare time.  They just "guess" using science, math and logic; and happen to (usually) be really good at it.

Basically we've reached a point where SO much information is available (particularly to Google); that to selectively cull out all references to you (and lets assume for the sake of argument that there is only ONE "studebaker hoch" in the world; ever; period); would be equal to removing just 1/403225th of a single cell from the human body*.

* Math isn't my best subject anymore.  15 exobytes of data and 3.72x1013 cells in the human body.
 
2014-06-02 10:44:14 PM  
So I should then be able to click all those links that DO apply to me and say "don't list those".  I could prove they pertain to me only, and that I'm not some random internet guy.

My point being that Google could do this if they wanted to.

I should be able to claim my own search results, right?  And if there's question, prove it to them somehow, say by showing (google only) a utility bill, pay stub etc that proves that yes, that's really me.

Or google could say "We just can't isolate your data in a result set, it's impossible" while going back to working on their self-driving cars.
 
2014-06-03 08:25:16 AM  
You know, I bet the first time this happens it will be a Wall Street trading bot. It starts to make crazy bets, you go to shut it down and it destroys the market and holds the worlds stocks as hostage to keep itself alive.
 
2014-06-03 09:37:04 AM  

studebaker hoch: So I should then be able to click all those links that DO apply to me and say "don't list those".  I could prove they pertain to me only, and that I'm not some random internet guy.

My point being that Google could do this if they wanted to.

I should be able to claim my own search results, right?  And if there's question, prove it to them somehow, say by showing (google only) a utility bill, pay stub etc that proves that yes, that's really me.

Or google could say "We just can't isolate your data in a result set, it's impossible" while going back to working on their self-driving cars.


I have no idea what you think this has to do with the article.

You have no idea what you're talking about, either. You're like those people who put up an ad on Craigslist and say "I have a million dollar programming idea but I don't know anything about programming, so I'll split it with you 50/50"

In fact, you should do that.... post your "do not search" thing on Craigslist. I mean, $100 should cover it, right?
 
2014-06-03 09:42:55 AM  
You boys and girls do know that Google is a CIA contractor, right?
 
2014-06-03 02:15:51 PM  

MindStalker: You know, I bet the first time this happens it will be a Wall Street trading bot. It starts to make crazy bets, you go to shut it down and it destroys the market and holds the worlds stocks as hostage to keep itself alive.


The most plausible scenario I've heard of is an arms race between spam filters and spam bots.
 
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