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2014-06-01 06:33:27 PM  
Eating flour that highly-refined is not greatly different than eating the same calories as plain sugar.
 
2014-06-01 07:14:27 PM  
A new report out shows that 100% of all obese people ate.
 
2014-06-01 07:16:57 PM  
This just in: eating shiatty food will lead to problems later on.  Sometimes later in life...sometimes later that day.
 
2014-06-01 07:32:42 PM  

Mad_Radhu: A new report out shows that 100% of all obese people ate.


But did they eat FOOD?

/It seems further research is needed.
 
2014-06-01 07:38:08 PM  
Carbs make you fat.
 
2014-06-01 07:50:00 PM  

Mad_Radhu: A new report out shows that 100% of all obese people ate.


Whoa, whoa, whoa...I have a thyroid thing.
 
2014-06-01 07:52:44 PM  
Having grown up in the 50s & 60s when eating white bread was the norm, I'm curious as to why obesity wasn't that common back then.

Perhaps it's in part that people back then, especially children, didn't vegetate in front of the TV, plus home computers & computer games were non-existent played a part in that.
 
2014-06-01 07:53:06 PM  

way south: Mad_Radhu: A new report out shows that 100% of all obese people ate.

But did they eat FOOD?

/It seems further research is needed.


He went green and now gets his chlorophyll of sunlight daily?

/chloroplastered?
 
2014-06-01 08:03:04 PM  

Bathia_Mapes: Having grown up in the 50s & 60s when eating white bread was the norm, I'm curious as to why obesity wasn't that common back then.

Perhaps it's in part that people back then, especially children, didn't vegetate in front of the TV, plus home computers & computer games were non-existent played a part in that.


Growing up in the 80s, I ate more than my share of junk food, but I was out playing or riding my bike every day. Even with my unhealthy level of Nintendo, I exercised several hours a day. 

In short, yes, that is why. Worse than our diet is our sedentary lifestyle.
 
2014-06-01 08:08:00 PM  
Porker, eh? Swine.
 
2014-06-01 08:17:09 PM  
Haven't gotten hold of the study itself yet, but it seems like this might be an artifact due to the possibility that people who make a choice to eat whole wheat bread are more likely to make healthier eating choices in general, rather than the bread type itself being the cause of the problem.
 
2014-06-01 08:29:01 PM  

way south: Mad_Radhu: A new report out shows that 100% of all obese people ate.

But did they eat FOOD?

/It seems further research is needed.


When there were no crawdads to be found, we ate sand.
 
2014-06-01 08:34:31 PM  
img.fark.netNope.


Much tastier than Wonder brand baked pudding, and won't turn you into Jabba.
 
2014-06-01 08:37:53 PM  

Hollie Maea: [img.fark.net image 850x634]Nope.


Much tastier than Wonder brand baked pudding, and won't turn you into Jabba.


Yeah, but the glutens will turn you into a serial killer or something. Or is that thetans? I can never keep those straight.
 
2014-06-01 08:50:46 PM  

Mad_Radhu: Hollie Maea: [img.fark.net image 850x634]Nope.


Much tastier than Wonder brand baked pudding, and won't turn you into Jabba.

Yeah, but the glutens will turn you into a serial killer or something.


Yeah, that's what they keep telling me.  I grew up eating gluten "steaks" so I must be the most dangerous person in the world.
 
2014-06-01 08:52:06 PM  

burningplastic: Haven't gotten hold of the study itself yet, but it seems like this might be an artifact due to the possibility that people who make a choice to eat whole wheat bread are more likely to make healthier eating choices in general, rather than the bread type itself being the cause of the problem.


This
 
2014-06-01 08:58:49 PM  
I got to be a porker the natural way - by eating pork.
 
2014-06-01 09:06:50 PM  

Mad_Radhu: A new report out shows that 100% of all obese people ate.


And 100% of obese people die.

Do the math.
 
2014-06-01 09:07:26 PM  

burningplastic: Haven't gotten hold of the study itself yet, but it seems like this might be an artifact due to the possibility that people who make a choice to eat whole wheat bread are more likely to make healthier eating choices in general, rather than the bread type itself being the cause of the problem.


This


Nemo's Brother: Worse than our diet is our sedentary lifestyle.


And This
 
2014-06-01 09:09:27 PM  
Also, people who eat more than two portions of white bread a day are making sandwiches.
 
2014-06-01 09:28:19 PM  

Tyrone Slothrop: Porker, eh? Swine.


A whole generation.
 
2014-06-01 09:32:50 PM  
I thought this was about the Wonder Years reunion and couldn't remember if any of them got fat. I'm gratified to learn Danica McKellar and Olivia d'Abo are still looking svelte.
 
2014-06-01 09:33:12 PM  

Nemo's Brother: Growing up in the 80s, I ate more than my share of junk food, but I was out playing or riding my bike every day. Even with my unhealthy level of Nintendo, I exercised several hours a day. 

In short, yes, that is why. Worse than our diet is our sedentary lifestyle.


It's way easier to eat less than it is to move enough to make up for moving more.

But yeah, our bodies are built with the intention of taking more activity to survive while at the same time we're built to eat whatever is available to survive. Kind of a crappy combination having to fight against.
 
2014-06-01 09:36:02 PM  

Nemo's Brother: Bathia_Mapes: Having grown up in the 50s & 60s when eating white bread was the norm, I'm curious as to why obesity wasn't that common back then.

Perhaps it's in part that people back then, especially children, didn't vegetate in front of the TV, plus home computers & computer games were non-existent played a part in that.

Growing up in the 80s, I ate more than my share of junk food, but I was out playing or riding my bike every day. Even with my unhealthy level of Nintendo, I exercised several hours a day. 

In short, yes, that is why. Worse than our diet is our sedentary lifestyle.


Masai warriors have a diet solely of cow blood and fat, and they seem like pretty slim and spry fellows
 
2014-06-01 10:03:27 PM  
I once ate white bread
Now I'm an alcoholic

Study it out
 
2014-06-01 10:10:48 PM  
I don't know anybody who has eaten white bread since the Clinton administration. White bread is about as outdated and out of fashion as hypercolor t-shirts. If you can find it, and more importantly if you eat it, you deserve to die a horrible death. Surely you're suicidal. That stuff is poison, and you're an idiot if you eat it. We've only known for several decades that it's barely a rung better than nuclear waste. You wouldn't eat nuclear waste would you? Who am I kidding, you probably would, but the average person, of average intelligence? Yeah, nobody eats white bread anymore.
 
2014-06-01 10:24:04 PM  
beer

I don't eat white bread and never really have.....maybe occasionally, but definitely the beer
 
2014-06-01 10:30:47 PM  

Tyrone Slothrop: Porker, eh? Swine.


Pig Bodine?
 
2014-06-01 10:35:27 PM  

MrHappyRotter: I don't know anybody who has eaten white bread since the Clinton administration. White bread is about as outdated and out of fashion as hypercolor t-shirts.


That's right, the supermarket is rife with bread products with powerful amounts of whole grains.  Very powerful doses.

/if you subscribe to the theory behind homeopathy
 
2014-06-01 10:57:12 PM  
So, as someone who has been an enormous fat ass most of his life, and has struggled with this for decades (and who finally dropped the weight about 5 years ago) I have a pretty strong feeling about this:

Basically, we have too many calorie dense foods at our disposal and not enough exercise.

I know, it's farking shocking.

As for how I lost the weight - I cut out all sugar and starches from my diet and stopped buying packaged food. The result was a 140 pound weight loss over 16 months.

My cholesterol is perfect, my weight is perfect, my blood pressure is perfect and I'm almost 40 years old now.

Evidently eating a lot of green vegetables and meat is pretty good for you. Imagine that.
 
2014-06-01 11:51:41 PM  

Mad_Radhu: way south: Mad_Radhu: A new report out shows that 100% of all obese people ate.

But did they eat FOOD?

/It seems further research is needed.

When there were no crawdads to be found, we ate sand.


You ate what?
 
2014-06-02 12:26:05 AM  

Crudbucket: Mad_Radhu: A new report out shows that 100% of all obese people ate.

Whoa, whoa, whoa...I have a thyroid thing.


My friend has a 'thyroid problem' as well. It definitely isn't the 12 pack to case of Pepsi he drinks a day while playing video games all day, no, it's a Thyroid Problem.
 
2014-06-02 01:06:15 AM  
The weird thing is, people ate white bread for hundreds of years, and didn't get fat.

What's missing?


Oh, yeah, the part about not being a sedentary slob, because that will make you a fat fark.
 
2014-06-02 01:16:27 AM  
img.fark.net
 
2014-06-02 01:26:25 AM  

Bathia_Mapes: Having grown up in the 50s & 60s when eating white bread was the norm, I'm curious as to why obesity wasn't that common back then.

Perhaps it's in part that people back then, especially children, didn't vegetate in front of the TV, plus home computers & computer games were non-existent played a part in that.


I remember back when we kids thought nothing of walking several miles to whatever, and by ourselves. Kids are never without an adult these days as far as I can tell. Being a kid now must be like having the warden always at your side.
 
2014-06-02 01:33:19 AM  
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2014-06-02 06:48:40 AM  

The_Time_Master: Carbs make you fat.


This.

The evidence is mounting.  I'm curious if the FDA will finally take that into account when they release the new macronutrient guidelines next year.
 
2014-06-02 07:51:51 AM  
How many times do we need to say "correlation does not equal causation" before journalists realize that findings like this are junk science?

Of course consuming white bread in large quantities will make you fat. Most processed foods will. The problem with studies like this is that they try to isolate a single variable without using a proper control group so it's never clear if there are other factors at play and white bread consumption is merely an indicator of obesity rather than a cause.

Nutrition science is, ironically enough, bloated with its own form of junk food - junk science. That's why no one takes it seriously and why it always seems either blindingly obvious our blitheringly stupid.
 
2014-06-02 08:30:06 AM  

AngryDragon: The_Time_Master: Carbs make you fat.

This.

The evidence is mounting.  I'm curious if the FDA will finally take that into account when they release the new macronutrient guidelines next year.


Doubtful.
 
2014-06-02 09:06:32 AM  

secularsage: How many times do we need to say "correlation does not equal causation" before journalists realize that findings like this are junk science?

Of course consuming white bread in large quantities will make you fat. Most processed foods will. The problem with studies like this is that they try to isolate a single variable without using a proper control group so it's never clear if there are other factors at play and white bread consumption is merely an indicator of obesity rather than a cause.

Nutrition science is, ironically enough, bloated with its own form of junk food - junk science. That's why no one takes it seriously and why it always seems either blindingly obvious our blitheringly stupid.


The problem is people, including doctors and nutritionists, do take it seriously.

Ask 100 people what's healthy and 99 will spew out the usda food pyramid: eat grains, soybeans and vegetable oils. Praise our mighty overlord Monsanto.

The lipid hypothesis was debunked years ago, yet prescriptions for statins is flying off the charts.
 
2014-06-02 09:38:22 AM  

Bathia_Mapes: Having grown up in the 50s & 60s when eating white bread was the norm, I'm curious as to why obesity wasn't that common back then.
Perhaps it's in part that people back then, especially children, didn't vegetate in front of the TV, plus home computers & computer games were non-existent played a part in that.


There's no way that the bread makers are still using the same ingredients today that they did in the 1960s. The white bread of those times was probably closer to what is laughingly called "whole wheat" today.
 
2014-06-02 10:38:55 AM  

tripleseven: The weird thing is, people ate white bread for hundreds of years, and didn't get fat.

What's missing?


Oh, yeah, the part about not being a sedentary slob, because that will make you a fat fark.


They've been eating white bread made from highly refined flour for hundreds of years?  Where did they get the aromatic hydrocarbons to de-fat it?   Where did they get the vitamins to 'enrich' the flour for after it gets so refined that not even yeast can eat it without some vitamins?

Yesterday's white bread is not today's white bread.   There was still plenty of fiber in yesterday's white bread.

And yeah, people used to move more.  They also ate stuff with fat in it that would make them feel full, as opposed to huge amounts of simple cheap carbohydrates that have a long shelf life.  You know, the kind that trigger insulin production, which makes fat cells absorb the calories, crashing your blood sugar, leaving you hungry again.

/And yeah, you might want to check in to rickets, scurvy, and beriberi.  People got sick from eating cheap back in the day too. Probably would hit them before they would have got obese.
 
2014-06-02 10:49:03 AM  
As a kid, my family was really poor and all i ever farking ate was ramen, bread, Stove Top, instant rice, Totino's pizzas, and Swanson's turkey TV dinners (those were a treat.)  There were no regular mealtimes, no salads, almost no meat.

Fat.

My best friend who grew up eating meat and eggs and other normal food?

Much skinnier.
 
2014-06-02 10:53:22 AM  
processed food had its purpose at one point in time but it's pretty obvious the body wasn't built to process large amounts of it
 
2014-06-02 11:11:25 AM  
i always buy bread from the bakery.  it goes bad.  i think that's what scares me the most about sliced/packaged breads.  they never go bad.

i get baguettes (which is white bread, i think, maybe, i don't know anything about bread, all that i knew is that whole wheat bread tastes like shiat), and if not eaten in a couple days, it's as hard as a rock (then it becomes my source of bread crumbs for cooking, or gets thrown into soups -- btw, old bread for bread crumbs is better for you than packaged bread crumbs.  essentially, the packaged bread crumbs are much more dense, which means you're eating about 3x the carbs for the same amount of bread crumbs)
 
2014-06-02 12:03:29 PM  

NakedDrummer: The lipid hypothesis was debunked years ago, yet prescriptions for statins is flying off the charts.


And you got this information by being a nutrition scientist or biologist? Or perhaps you did a careful review of the published literature on the subject...

No, you read a pop-sci book and now believe in anti-science like 'paleo'-anything.

Good job on that. You replaced one set of unfounded beliefs (food pyramid, fat is always evil) with another (carbs are always evil, all human's can be healthy following the same diet), without learning how to figure out what we actually know (and more often, in this case, don't know).

/'Spend more calories than you consume' is the closest to what actual scientists actually understand at this point
//But the variables are so difficult to control that we don't know much more than we know
 
2014-06-02 12:03:36 PM  
Correlation does not equal causation.
 
2014-06-02 02:25:36 PM  

ryarger: NakedDrummer: The lipid hypothesis was debunked years ago, yet prescriptions for statins is flying off the charts.

And you got this information by being a nutrition scientist or biologist? Or perhaps you did a careful review of the published literature on the subject...

No, you read a pop-sci book and now believe in anti-science like 'paleo'-anything.

Good job on that. You replaced one set of unfounded beliefs (food pyramid, fat is always evil) with another (carbs are always evil, all human's can be healthy following the same diet), without learning how to figure out what we actually know (and more often, in this case, don't know).

/'Spend more calories than you consume' is the closest to what actual scientists actually understand at this point
//But the variables are so difficult to control that we don't know much more than we know


When did I say carbs are evil?  Don't go full retard.
So what's your stance? you believe in the lipid hypothesis?  Ancel Keys work was debunked right after he published his first papers on it.  Whatever, believe your simplistic CICO, take your statins, and be quiet.
 
2014-06-02 03:05:33 PM  

AngryDragon: The_Time_Master: Carbs make you fat.

This.

The evidence is mounting.  I'm curious if the FDA will finally take that into account when they release the new macronutrient guidelines next year.


How many dollars has the farmers market lobby put into lobbying this year?  How about Monsanto?

While, (iirc) Bread has moved from the base, to a major wedge of the pyramid.  I doubt its share is going to be shrinking.
 
2014-06-02 03:59:53 PM  

PainInTheASP: This just in: eating shiatty food will lead to problems later on.  Sometimes later in life...sometimes later that day.


Mister, you ain't kidding. Had pizza from a local establishment on Saturday night, still have the gastrointestinal issues something awful.

/Starting to think this might actually be a proper stomach bug
//Getting the 30-day ab challenge off to a roaring start, at least.
 
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