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2014-05-31 08:07:42 PM  
As for me and my house, we shall hurl the gourd.
 
2014-05-31 09:00:49 PM  
Meh. Both my kids were introduced to vegetables first and fruits last. They still like vegetables, in fact the youngest (4 yo) will pass up chips and candy for cucumber, peppers, and carrots.
 
2014-05-31 09:02:24 PM  
They have a point, my father made sure me and my sister tried pretty much everything when we were too young to refuse. As a result it's hard to find something that we won't try and we definitely never developed a taste for junk food.
 
2014-05-31 09:02:51 PM  
Fussy eating in my parents home resulted in one of two things; I go to bed hungry or I get my ass beat until I finish my plate.
 
2014-05-31 09:10:00 PM  
I think they missed a step - if you want your kids to eat vegetables, buy/grow decent quality stuff and prepare it properly (it's usually pretty damned easy). If you give them some preserved crap out of a can and just toss it in a microwave, they'll call it the swill that it is.
 
2014-05-31 09:10:12 PM  
My 4- yr old nephew found my "Sweet Million" cherry tomato bush heavily in fruit...
left it damn near bare except for new little green tomatoes just forming.

*burp* was his comment/apology.

His mother told him "Alex, you should have asked first."
 
2014-05-31 09:10:24 PM  
What if he's got a pointed stick?

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2014-05-31 09:10:45 PM  
Mmm. I love artichokes.
 
2014-05-31 09:16:06 PM  
Hit them with a pineapple WILL be a Fark meme. Oh it will.
 
2014-05-31 09:19:01 PM  
Did the hedgehog survive?
 
2014-05-31 09:22:18 PM  
When the pin is removed, Mr. Pineapple is no longer your friend.
 
2014-05-31 09:27:11 PM  

eKonk: I think they missed a step - if you want your kids to eat vegetables, buy/grow decent quality stuff and prepare it properly (it's usually pretty damned easy). If you give them some preserved crap out of a can and just toss it in a microwave, they'll call it the swill that it is.


I love fruits and veggies of all types (except artichoke because it's more trouble to eat than it's worth) and I attribute this to the environment I grew up in.

There was always a bowl of apples and bananas and pears available in the dining room.  Oranges were in the fridge.

Similarly, there was always fresh celery and carrots and stuff in the fridge too.  One of my favorite snacks used to be cucumbers, sometimes dipped in ranch dressing but sometimes not.

We had a safe veggie peeler that I would use to skin carrots and cucumbers.  After I got old enough to be trusted to peel veggies with a knife, I stopped bothering to peel them anyway because the skins are good too.

tl;dr:  Make the food available as snacks and kids will eat it.  Forcing food just creates a backlash against the food.
 
2014-05-31 09:37:53 PM  

syzygy whizz: My 4- yr old nephew found my "Sweet Million" cherry tomato bush heavily in fruit...
left it damn near bare except for new little green tomatoes just forming.

*burp* was his comment/apology.

His mother told him "Alex, you should have asked first."


A lesson in "don't eat all the random stuff in the yard" might also be in order
 
2014-05-31 09:39:09 PM  
Just remember, there's a fine line between "eat your green beans", and "no wire hangers, ever!"
 
2014-05-31 09:40:55 PM  

cgraves67: Mmm. I love artichokes.


Me too. Have you ever noticed a sweet aftertaste after you eat artichokes? I think that's the best part.
 
2014-05-31 09:42:44 PM  

Tyrosine: Meh. Both my kids were introduced to vegetables first and fruits last. They still like vegetables, in fact the youngest (4 yo) will pass up chips and candy for cucumber, peppers, and carrots.


Oops. Too late to go back and do it right. I introduced my kids to new foods at my convenience. If I was eating peaches or pintos or green beans, into the baby food strainer some of them went. Not many vegetables I'm afraid, so now my kids eat far more fruits than vegetables. At least the little one has a taste for quality meats. My oldest could probably live on nothing but grilled cheese, box mac&cheese, ramen with processed cheese melted on it, and apples. He's 14.
 
2014-05-31 09:44:20 PM  

SpdrJay: Just remember, there's a fine line between "eat your green beans", and "no wire hangers, ever!"


If they're fresh green beans, I'll eat as many of them as you want me to. Raw, nothing to dip them in, and it's suddenly perfect.
Steam them, and they're still edible. Boil them or microwave them? No longer edible. Put them in a casserole dish with heavily salted, canned cream of mushroom soup and onions? May as well barf on the plate.
 
2014-05-31 09:44:21 PM  
I dunno, I lucked out I guess.

I just ate everything, and so did my three kids.
 
2014-05-31 09:46:57 PM  
As someone who does this for a living, many kids need far more exposure. We tell parents to try a food at least 20 times. Literally the first time is just to have it at the table , not even on the child's plate. Then near the plate, then in a bowl separate from other foods, then playing with it (stirring, etc), then maaaybe put it to their lips, and finally trying a bite as everyone else models.

My cases all have special needs so this is the most extreme tactic, but it's really effective if you have a picky eater, regardless of if they're typically developing or not.
 
2014-05-31 09:51:27 PM  
Meh. We were poor, and rural. We got fresh veggies in the summer and fall, canned or frozen any other times. We ate the veggies because we were hungry and there wasn't any junk food in the house.

I don't understand parent who say, "my four year old will only eat McDonalds". Your four year old can't drive. If it gets hungry, it will eat.
 
2014-05-31 09:52:15 PM  
My kid isn't fussy so much as infuriating at the moment.  Do you want the broccoli or the Brussels sprouts?  I want the broccoli.  No, I want sprouts.  I wanted the broccoli!  No, I meant the sprouts.  No, no time out!!

It's not just food, it's everything though.  Make up your goddamned mind or go to bed.
 
2014-05-31 09:53:50 PM  
What if I can't throw a pineapple that far? :(
 
2014-05-31 09:54:17 PM  

Selena Luna: SpdrJay: Just remember, there's a fine line between "eat your green beans", and "no wire hangers, ever!"

If they're fresh green beans, I'll eat as many of them as you want me to. Raw, nothing to dip them in, and it's suddenly perfect.
Steam them, and they're still edible. Boil them or microwave them? No longer edible. Put them in a casserole dish with heavily salted, canned cream of mushroom soup and onions? May as well barf on the plate.




Yup. Most veggies are best fresh and raw. Stuff like squash, Brussel sprouts and sweet potatoes are best just cooked with salt and a little oil, not canned and shiat.

/ doesn't like potatoes.
 
2014-05-31 09:54:28 PM  

Selena Luna: SpdrJay: Just remember, there's a fine line between "eat your green beans", and "no wire hangers, ever!"

If they're fresh green beans, I'll eat as many of them as you want me to. Raw, nothing to dip them in, and it's suddenly perfect.
Steam them, and they're still edible. Boil them or microwave them? No longer edible. Put them in a casserole dish with heavily salted, canned cream of mushroom soup and onions? May as well barf on the plate.


Based on this post alone, I can assume that you could speak for me on any food-related subject.
 
2014-05-31 10:00:31 PM  
I'm not old enough for an onion on my belt, but when I was a kid in the summer we'd be told to go away and come back at meal times. We had heavy chores involving the garden and wood cutting and lugging, but also lots of hours of super important kid stuff.

We'd come home filthy, and starving. You could have fed us anything, and we knew that biatching about it would get us a rap on the head, not a different meal.
 
2014-05-31 10:02:31 PM  

insertsnarkyusername: They have a point, my father made sure me and my sister tried pretty much everything when we were too young to refuse. As a result it's hard to find something that we won't try and we definitely never developed a taste for junk food.


My cousin did this with his kids and it worked wonders. They're were eating sushi and sea urchin by age 9.
 
2014-05-31 10:09:55 PM  
Make the veggies readily available with no alternatives to fall back on, and the kids will eat them regardless of how they're prepared. They aren't going to starve themselves to death.
 
2014-05-31 10:13:52 PM  

fusillade762: insertsnarkyusername: They have a point, my father made sure me and my sister tried pretty much everything when we were too young to refuse. As a result it's hard to find something that we won't try and we definitely never developed a taste for junk food.

My cousin did this with his kids and it worked wonders. They're were eating sushi and sea urchin by age 9.


Funny enough, I asked a five year old what she would recommend for sushi.

Went and visited a couple of internet friends and we out to a sushi place in Atlanta. I'd never eaten good sushi (tried the frozen, boxed crap and it tasted about as one would expect) before, so I asked their daughter. She was cute as all hell and mentioned a couple of types on the menu that she knows. I ordered one of those and it was extremely tasty.

I figured I had never tried the decent stuff, so I'd get something that I knew a child liked on the assumption that kids don't go for wild flavors.
 
2014-05-31 10:15:01 PM  
My parents fed me all kinds of different things as a baby and kid.

I'm still picky as hell when it comes to vegetables.

No raw onions,  if they're diced then cooked in something to the point of being destroyed then fine.
No raw tomatoes,  again fine if they're cooked until mush / near mush
Cucumbers,  gross period
Zucchini yuk.
Mushrooms, yuk again,  reminds me of when I'd bite the erasers of pencils as a kid,  same texture to me.

A lot has to do with their textures more than taste,  like cooked onions are slimly things but onion flavor is good.
 
2014-05-31 10:27:15 PM  
Cook real food for your children from the start instead of crap from boxes
 
2014-05-31 10:27:58 PM  
My parents learned with their first kid how not to approach kids and foods. They served my then-7-year-old brother oatmeal with raisins and told him to eat it one morning around 8 am. He refused, and they said he couldn't leave the table until he ate it.

By 3 pm, they gave up. My parents thenceforth did not force that kind of issue with any of us ever again.
 
2014-05-31 10:28:30 PM  

Czechzican: Fussy eating in my parents home resulted in one of two things; I go to bed hungry or I get my ass beat until I finish my plate.


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'And how did that make you feel?'
 
2014-05-31 10:32:32 PM  

fusillade762: insertsnarkyusername: They have a point, my father made sure me and my sister tried pretty much everything when we were too young to refuse. As a result it's hard to find something that we won't try and we definitely never developed a taste for junk food.

My cousin did this with his kids and it worked wonders. They're were eating sushi and sea urchin by age 9.


My parents were actually the yuppie assholes taking their toddlers to sushi bars in the 80's. I was apparently gobbling down raw tuna at 4. I'm sure me and my sister annoyed everyone else dining there but I'm glad for it.
 
2014-05-31 10:33:32 PM  

PetuniaPumpkin: As someone who does this for a living, many kids need far more exposure. We tell parents to try a food at least 20 times. Literally the first time is just to have it at the table , not even on the child's plate. Then near the plate, then in a bowl separate from other foods, then playing with it (stirring, etc), then maaaybe put it to their lips, and finally trying a bite as everyone else models.

My cases all have special needs so this is the most extreme tactic, but it's really effective if you have a picky eater, regardless of if they're typically developing or not.


With all due deference, that still sounds like child abuse to force-feed anyone anything.
 
2014-05-31 10:34:00 PM  

Czechzican: Fussy eating in my parents home resulted in one of two things; I go to bed hungry or I get my ass beat until I finish my plate.


my parents made me sit there until it was time for bed.  after about 50 nights of me sitting at the table and refusing to eat disgusting food that had long since gone cold, my parents realized "maybe he honestly doesn't like it and we should stop forcing him to eat it."  i'm not even that picky an eater, really.  i just don't like vegetables at all, i find them almost universally disgusting.  my parents did their best to make me like them, but i thought vegetables were gross and i still do.
 
2014-05-31 10:34:55 PM  

syzygy whizz: My 4- yr old nephew found my "Sweet Million" cherry tomato bush heavily in fruit...
left it damn near bare except for new little green tomatoes just forming.

*burp* was his comment/apology.

His mother told him "Alex, you should have asked first."


That is so cute, seriously...they'll grow back.  My Granddaughters do the same thing...so did their mommas.  Blasted genetics, lol
 
2014-05-31 10:37:46 PM  

insertsnarkyusername: fusillade762: insertsnarkyusername: They have a point, my father made sure me and my sister tried pretty much everything when we were too young to refuse. As a result it's hard to find something that we won't try and we definitely never developed a taste for junk food.

My cousin did this with his kids and it worked wonders. They're were eating sushi and sea urchin by age 9.

My parents were actually the yuppie assholes taking their toddlers to sushi bars in the 80's. I was apparently gobbling down raw tuna at 4. I'm sure me and my sister annoyed everyone else dining there but I'm glad for it.


I'm glad you turned out ok, but I am of the opinion that children under 10 should not be allowed in any establishment that lacks crayons at the table. I don't need Little Johnny Sonofabiatch running around while I'm pouring back sake and consuming ngiri by the plateful.

/Because seaweed is nasty
 
2014-05-31 10:38:02 PM  

enderthexenocide: Czechzican: Fussy eating in my parents home resulted in one of two things; I go to bed hungry or I get my ass beat until I finish my plate.

my parents made me sit there until it was time for bed.  after about 50 nights of me sitting at the table and refusing to eat disgusting food that had long since gone cold, my parents realized "maybe he honestly doesn't like it and we should stop forcing him to eat it."  i'm not even that picky an eater, really.  i just don't like vegetables at all, i find them almost universally disgusting.  my parents did their best to make me like them, but i thought vegetables were gross and i still do.




One time when I wasn't allowed to leave the table until I finished my mashed potatoes my mom caught me hiding them in my pockets. When caught, I claimed that I was "keeping them warm", and ate some.

My parents stopped making me eat potatoes. But I had to eat veggies.
 
2014-05-31 10:40:34 PM  

enderthexenocide: Czechzican: Fussy eating in my parents home resulted in one of two things; I go to bed hungry or I get my ass beat until I finish my plate.

my parents made me sit there until it was time for bed.  after about 50 nights of me sitting at the table and refusing to eat disgusting food that had long since gone cold, my parents realized "maybe he honestly doesn't like it and we should stop forcing him to eat it."  i'm not even that picky an eater, really.  i just don't like vegetables at all, i find them almost universally disgusting.  my parents did their best to make me like them, but i thought vegetables were gross and i still do.


Potatoes (peeled, damnit), sweet potatoes, corn, fried onion rings, tomato sauce, and a few other things. Otherwise, I'm not a fan of vegetation. Thank god my parents understood this basic fact.
 
2014-05-31 10:43:46 PM  

flucto: Hit them with a pineapple WILL be a Fark meme. Oh it will.


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2014-05-31 10:43:54 PM  

maram500: insertsnarkyusername: fusillade762: insertsnarkyusername: They have a point, my father made sure me and my sister tried pretty much everything when we were too young to refuse. As a result it's hard to find something that we won't try and we definitely never developed a taste for junk food.

My cousin did this with his kids and it worked wonders. They're were eating sushi and sea urchin by age 9.

My parents were actually the yuppie assholes taking their toddlers to sushi bars in the 80's. I was apparently gobbling down raw tuna at 4. I'm sure me and my sister annoyed everyone else dining there but I'm glad for it.

I'm glad you turned out ok, but I am of the opinion that children under 10 should not be allowed in any establishment that lacks crayons at the table. I don't need Little Johnny Sonofabiatch running around while I'm pouring back sake and consuming ngiri by the plateful.

/Because seaweed is nasty


I completely agree and I'm not saying that parents should bring their children to a dinner service. I'm not a parent but if I was I'd choose to do that during off hours when restaurants are nearly empty or simply request takeout.
 
2014-05-31 10:45:59 PM  

flucto: Hit them with a pineapple WILL be a Fark meme. Oh it will.


I'm open

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2014-05-31 10:46:48 PM  

mutterfark: Czechzican: Fussy eating in my parents home resulted in one of two things; I go to bed hungry or I get my ass beat until I finish my plate.

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what_now: enderthexenocide: Czechzican: Fussy eating in my parents home resulted in one of two things; I go to bed hungry or I get my ass beat until I finish my plate.

my parents made me sit there until it was time for bed.  after about 50 nights of me sitting at the table and refusing to eat disgusting food that had long since gone cold, my parents realized "maybe he honestly doesn't like it and we should stop forcing him to eat it."  i'm not even that picky an eater, really.  i just don't like vegetables at all, i find them almost universally disgusting.  my parents did their best to make me like them, but i thought vegetables were gross and i still do.

One time when I wasn't allowed to leave the table until I finished my mashed potatoes my mom caught me hiding them in my pockets. When caught, I claimed that I was "keeping them warm", and ate some.

My parents stopped making me eat potatoes. But I had to eat veggies.


My brothers had a habit of dumping whatever nastiness they didn't want to eat onto my plate and then tell my parents I was refusing to finish. Since my parents ate in the living room and us in the dining room, they never saw the act. They also believed my brothers would never lie, so they'd flip out on me to finish. So I'd be forced to eat way more than I should, which would then cause my brothers to in turn oink and call me a fat pig.

I can't eat in front of people now and am a recovering anorexic.

I feel absolutely peachy! Thanks for askin!
 
2014-05-31 10:48:40 PM  

insertsnarkyusername: maram500: insertsnarkyusername: fusillade762: insertsnarkyusername: They have a point, my father made sure me and my sister tried pretty much everything when we were too young to refuse. As a result it's hard to find something that we won't try and we definitely never developed a taste for junk food.

My cousin did this with his kids and it worked wonders. They're were eating sushi and sea urchin by age 9.

My parents were actually the yuppie assholes taking their toddlers to sushi bars in the 80's. I was apparently gobbling down raw tuna at 4. I'm sure me and my sister annoyed everyone else dining there but I'm glad for it.

I'm glad you turned out ok, but I am of the opinion that children under 10 should not be allowed in any establishment that lacks crayons at the table. I don't need Little Johnny Sonofabiatch running around while I'm pouring back sake and consuming ngiri by the plateful.

/Because seaweed is nasty

I completely agree and I'm not saying that parents should bring their children to a dinner service. I'm not a parent but if I was I'd choose to do that during off hours when restaurants are nearly empty or simply request takeout.


I hadn't thought of the off-hours thing. I suppose that would be ok. I've been in quite a few restaurants where it was 9pm, place is packed, and parents are drink in while the kids cause chaos. I've even seen wait staff trip over the kids--and parents don't even so much as apologize.

Remind me why it isn't permissible to smack a kid in the back of the head?

/Note: When I adopt a child of my own, I will administer the head-slap lightly for correction
 
2014-05-31 10:54:12 PM  

maram500: I hadn't thought of the off-hours thing. I suppose that would be ok. I've been in quite a few restaurants where it was 9pm, place is packed, and parents are drink in while the kids cause chaos. I've even seen wait staff trip over the kids--and parents don't even so much as apologize.

Remind me why it isn't permissible to smack a kid in the back of the head?

/Note: When I adopt a child of my own, I will administer the head-slap lightly for correction


We got the head smacks and had to order off the menu or we could have cold cereal when we got home. When we were a bit older books and gameboys were used.
 
2014-05-31 10:59:37 PM  
Yes but this discussion hasn't mentioned pudding or meat yet.
 
2014-05-31 11:00:28 PM  

Boo_Guy: My parents fed me all kinds of different things as a baby and kid.

I'm still picky as hell when it comes to vegetables.

No raw onions,  if they're diced then cooked in something to the point of being destroyed then fine.
No raw tomatoes,  again fine if they're cooked until mush / near mush
Cucumbers,  gross period
Zucchini yuk.
Mushrooms, yuk again,  reminds me of when I'd bite the erasers of pencils as a kid,  same texture to me.

A lot has to do with their textures more than taste,  like cooked onions are slimly things but onion flavor is good.


Pretty much the same issues here. I like the taste of onions, but the texture grosses me out. (I'm okay with green onions and shallots, though, weirdly.) Tomatoes are tasty in a pureed state (like sauces), but any visible chunks are no bueno. Fruit is pretty much out altogether for me.

I take a daily vitamin and I do try to eat the stuff I can handle (salads are good!) at least once or twice a day. I don't get sick and have no chronic health problems. So, eh. I'm a picky eater that's survived well enough.

/I can also be really sensitive to tastes, though, too, so maybe it's oversensitivity? Mint makes me gag.
 
2014-05-31 11:01:52 PM  

Oldiron_79: Yes but this discussion hasn't mentioned pudding or meat yet.


Slap the kids with steak and throw puddi at them. If they like pudding, they'll get good at cathchi it with their faces.

/How's that?
 
2014-05-31 11:03:10 PM  

maram500: Oldiron_79: Yes but this discussion hasn't mentioned pudding or meat yet.

Slap the kids with steak and throw puddi at them. If they like pudding, they'll get good at cathchi it with their faces.

/How's that?


I hate autocorrect with a passion
 
2014-05-31 11:04:42 PM  

maram500: Oldiron_79: Yes but this discussion hasn't mentioned pudding or meat yet.

Slap the kids with steak and throw puddi at them. If they like pudding, they'll get good at cathchi it with their faces.

/How's that?


I think I had puddi cathchi once at a Thai restaurant.  It was so-so.
 
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