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(Huffington Post)   1950: "I had to walk a mile to school, uphill, in the snow, and I liked it." 2014: "My dad got probation for making me walk a mile to school"   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 190
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2014-05-30 07:38:45 AM  
It's a 15 minute walk. In Hawaii weather. Geez.
 
2014-05-30 07:44:39 AM  
There must be something unsaid here, like he dropped him on a highway or beat him with a pineapple or something.
 
2014-05-30 08:06:08 AM  

flucto: There must be something unsaid here, like he dropped him on a highway or beat him with a pineapple or something.


One of the commenters mentioned that the charge was brought in family court and that there may be a divorce involved.

I have no idea if he actually knows or is speculating but yeah, there's definitely something more going on here.
 
2014-05-30 08:15:08 AM  
I never knew I was an abused child until just now.

Is there somewhere to send in the forms for compensation?
 
2014-05-30 09:29:29 AM  
If this child is over 7 years old I weep for this country. COME ON... Its a mile walk. In Hawaii!
 
2014-05-30 09:56:41 AM  

SlothB77: It's a 15 minute walk. In Hawaii weather. Geez.


OH THE HUMANITY

And people wonder why so many Americans are fat.
 
2014-05-30 09:57:29 AM  
I've paid large sums of money for the privilege of walking a mile in Hawaii.
 
2014-05-30 09:58:05 AM  
Pathetic.

I grew up in Northern IL in the late 90's and the school bus wouldn't even come to your house if you lived within 2 miles.
 
2014-05-30 09:59:17 AM  
I rode my bicycle 2.5 miles to school and back again after football practice including during "hellweek". Where is my justice?
 
2014-05-30 09:59:23 AM  

flucto: There must be something unsaid here, like he dropped him on a highway or beat him with a pineapple or something.


The parent called it "Discipline"

Discipline is a no-no.
 
2014-05-30 10:00:08 AM  
I don't know what the trouble is. Dad always takes the kid to McDonald's later.

www.schwingfamily.com
 
2014-05-30 10:01:09 AM  
Spare the rod, spoil the child and you end up with an Elliot Rodger.
 
2014-05-30 10:01:23 AM  
Watanabe said times are different today, given child predators and traffic.


LOL WAT

Different than when?
 
2014-05-30 10:01:52 AM  
The age of the boy is unclear.

Also not specified: the traffic the kid was expected to deal with.

Kind of an important bits of information before I can know if I need to be outraged or not.
 
2014-05-30 10:02:39 AM  

flucto: beat him with a pineapple or something.


sd.keepcalm-o-matic.co.uk

I laughed way too hard at this.
 
2014-05-30 10:02:40 AM  
Yeah, unless he was forcing him to walk on an Interstate or something, or the kid was 4, this is really bullshiat.

My adoptive "mother" would make me walk when we lived 3 miles outside of town, THAT was farked up, especially when someone would offer me a ride and I was terrified about the beating I'd get if I accepted one. A mile though? Schools around here won't bus if you're that close, so walking is the only option anyway, since they also don't provide a good setup for dropping kids off...
 
2014-05-30 10:02:44 AM  
What the ever loving blue Fark? The only situation that I can see is if the child is a kindergartner. I wouldn't let my girl walk home by herself and it's less than a mile from school to home in a pretty nice neighborhood.

But if this kid is older than say....7, then I can't accept the judge's ruling as logical or correct.
 
2014-05-30 10:04:23 AM  

flucto: There must be something unsaid here, like he dropped him on a highway or beat him with a pineapple or something.


I was searching the article for the part that said the parents are divorced and there's some kind of on-going custody battle, because how the hell else would a matter like this ever come to the court's attention in the first place?
 
2014-05-30 10:06:52 AM  
So Dad was already at the school, then told his kid to walk home...

1.  A mile isn't that far, even for a kid, unless it involved crossing an 8-lane highway or something.

2.  $10 says Dad didn't just drive home and wait for the kid to show up.  He probably kept him in his sight the whole time.

3.  The kid has probably made the trip before, so it's not like he was likely to get lost.
 
2014-05-30 10:07:19 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: Watanabe said times are different today, given child predators and traffic.


LOL WAT

Different than when?


Different than when the judge was a child, and things were much more dangerous, but not talked about.
 
2014-05-30 10:08:09 AM  
I hope my 6 and 8 year olds don't find this article. They walk 2/3 of a mile each way to school every day.

/sometimes on scooters or bikes
 
2014-05-30 10:08:49 AM  
Hopefully the dad appeals, because there is no way this holds up.  Also, the district attorney is a coont.
 
2014-05-30 10:09:19 AM  
FTA: "Demond pleaded no contest..."

Idiot.
 
2014-05-30 10:10:16 AM  
I know a little girl whose mother has beaten her bloody, at least twice that I know of, yet nothing is done about it, no matter how many times teachers, neighbors, even the child's father call CPS about it. Yet this guy is in court for making a kid walk home from school? Wow. That was pretty much Monday through Friday for me, until I got my driver's licence.

Judge and Prosecuting Attorney should be disbarred.
 
2014-05-30 10:11:06 AM  
My daughter just finished 6th grade. Early in the year she missed the bus to school and it messed up my whole morning. So I met her at school that afternoon and we walked home together, just under 5 miles. I let her know that every time she missed the bus we would be walking home together.

That was the only time she missed the bus.


/CSB
 
2014-05-30 10:11:15 AM  

flucto: There must be something unsaid here, like he dropped him on a highway or beat him with a pineapple or something.


The old go-fetch-your-own-pineapple routine.  Barbaric.
 
2014-05-30 10:12:04 AM  

madgonad: I hope my 6 and 8 year olds don't find this article. They walk 2/3 of a mile each way to school every day.

/sometimes on scooters or bikes


How do they manage to keep their balance while they walk on scooters & bikes?  Seems tricky.
 
2014-05-30 10:13:09 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: Watanabe said times are different today, given child predators and traffic.


LOL WAT

Different than when?


There's a perception that either of these things is more likely to harm you today than in the past.  It turns out that the latter is true, but only in the case of when you're very near the school- you see, with almost every parent driving their kids, it's that heightened traffic right around the school that has gotten more dangerous.  Once you get outside the ring of inattentive helicopter parents, it's actually pretty smooth sailing.
 
2014-05-30 10:13:16 AM  
Watanabe said times are different today, given child predators and traffic.


Child Predators and Traffic, having only existed since 1982.

But seriously, can you take a judge seriously who says things like "Old-School" when discussing a legal case?
 
2014-05-30 10:13:41 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: Watanabe said times are different today, given child predators and traffic.


LOL WAT

Different than when?


He is an idiot, kids are safer now than whenever "then" was.

i.dailymail.co.uk
 
2014-05-30 10:13:46 AM  
Nation of pussies.
Hope the kid has fun in basic training.
 
2014-05-30 10:14:52 AM  
Since we're telling "when I was young" stories:  I walked to and from school every day.. about two miles each way.  I carried a saxophone every single day, starting in 4th grade the entire f**king way.  I walked through pouring rain, subzero temperatures and blizzards.  WTF.  Judge sounds fat.
 
2014-05-30 10:16:58 AM  
I grew up in a somewhat affluent suburb in Connecticut, it didn't matter if you lived across the street from the school, the district would not let you walk, you either had to take the bus, or get dropped off, and this was the policy all the way through the end of high school.
 
2014-05-30 10:17:54 AM  

jst3p: HotWingConspiracy: Watanabe said times are different today, given child predators and traffic.


LOL WAT

Different than when?

He is an idiot, kids are safer now than whenever "then" was.

[i.dailymail.co.uk image 634x430]


OK wrong chart but it is still true:

Crime has been going down since the 1990s:
All U.S. homicides: Down 40% 1992 -2005.
Juvenile homicide: Down 36% 1993 - 2005 (kids under age 14)
Juvenile homicide: Down 60% 1993 - 2005 (age 14 - 17)
Forcible rape: Down 28% 1992 - 2006
Sex Abuse Substantiations of Children, 1990 - 2005: Down 51%
Physical Abuse Substantiations of Children, 1990 - 2005: Down 46%
Juvenile Sex victimization trends, 1993 - 2003: Down 79%


http://www.freerangekids.com/crime-statistics/
 
2014-05-30 10:20:11 AM  
Everyone seems to forget, a parent isn't allowed to discipline their children anymore.
If you spank your child, it's DSS for you.
 
2014-05-30 10:20:22 AM  
As others have said - unless the kid was a kindergartener or the route involved an interstate then prosecuting someone for this is total BS.
 
2014-05-30 10:21:17 AM  

ifly4fun: Pathetic.

I grew up in Northern IL in the late 90's and the school bus wouldn't even come to your house if you lived within 2 miles.


We live in metro Pittsburgh, and the bus won't come if you're within 1.5 miles.  We're 1.4 miles from the school.  I think it would be ok to walk in most parts of America, but there's no way I'm making my 11 year old walk on a main street with heavy traffic through the hood to get to school.  We drive her.  (The nice kicker is that the school bus passes right by our street... they just won't stop).

That said, if you're not in a heavy traffic or walking through a high crime area, there's no reason why a kid can't walk to school.  As others have postulated, there has to be something else at play here.
 
2014-05-30 10:22:00 AM  

Target Builder: As others have said - unless the kid was a kindergartener or the route involved an interstate then prosecuting someone for this is total BS.


He had to WALK A MILE!

IN HAWAII

Can you afford to take a one mile hike in Hawaii?
 
2014-05-30 10:22:00 AM  

cig-mkr: Everyone seems to forget, a parent isn't allowed to discipline their children anymore.


Wrong.

If you spank your child, it's DSS for you.

Still wrong.
 
2014-05-30 10:23:39 AM  

jst3p: cig-mkr: Everyone seems to forget, a parent isn't allowed to discipline their children anymore.

Wrong.

If you spank your child, it's DSS for you.

Still wrong.


Citation needed. We have enough anectodal fark news stories that say otherwise. Show me an aquittal.

/So I can use it as a precedent on my future crotchfruit(s)
 
2014-05-30 10:24:14 AM  
Amongst the postings with pictures of fat kids and rantings of old men there's this to remember -

l.yimg.com

Two freakin' blocks  TWO -
So don't get all jingoistic about how great kids used to be and how our society is full of blah blah blah  So much better then than now and all that tiresome crap.
Two Blocks is all it took.  Two blocks.
 
2014-05-30 10:26:49 AM  

Marcintosh: Amongst the postings with pictures of fat kids and rantings of old men there's this to remember -

[l.yimg.com image 630x420]

Two freakin' blocks  TWO -
So don't get all jingoistic about how great kids used to be and how our society is full of blah blah blah  So much better then than now and all that tiresome crap.
Two Blocks is all it took.  Two blocks.


Oh no! Live in fear forever!!
 
2014-05-30 10:26:52 AM  

ColonelCathcart: jst3p: cig-mkr: Everyone seems to forget, a parent isn't allowed to discipline their children anymore.

Wrong.

If you spank your child, it's DSS for you.

Still wrong.

Citation needed. We have enough anectodal fark news stories that say otherwise. Show me an aquittal.

/So I can use it as a precedent on my future crotchfruit(s)


It took three seconds.

http://sfpublicdefender.org/news/2012/06/man-acquitted-of-child-abus e- in-spanking-case/
 
2014-05-30 10:27:30 AM  
I used to beg my parents to let me walk to school and they wouldn't let me, so I'm getting' a real kick outta these replies.

I assume this man is going to have some interesting thoughts every time he sees a parents abuse a child from now on.
 
2014-05-30 10:27:33 AM  
This judge's head would explode if she spent time during the morning rush hour in Hong Kong. There are kids as young as six or seven navigating buses, subway trains, etc. on their way to school. Some are in groups, some in pairs and some on their own. Again, this is during morning rush hour in one of the most crowded cities in the world. They manage to do just fine.
 
2014-05-30 10:28:31 AM  

cig-mkr: Everyone seems to forget, a parent isn't allowed to discipline their children anymore.
If you spank your child, it's DSS for you.


Can your boss discipline you without hitting you? Just because a child can't fight back or tell anyone what you did wrong, doesn't make it alright.
 
2014-05-30 10:28:53 AM  

BretMavrik: This judge's head would explode if she spent time during the morning rush hour in Hong Kong. There are kids as young as six or seven navigating buses, subway trains, etc. on their way to school. Some are in groups, some in pairs and some on their own. Again, this is during morning rush hour in one of the most crowded cities in the world. They manage to do just fine.


She's an okinawan.
 
2014-05-30 10:29:27 AM  
Not to excuse the judge but I've been to Kauai, and walking around on the "roads" isn't as safe as it is on the mainland.  You need to drive everywhere on the highways, because they're the only thing connecting anything, there's no side roads or paths anywhere.  And there's no sidewalks on the highways and the shoulders are sometimes very muddy and ditchy.

Plus, visibility at times is low.

c1.staticflickr.com

And traffic has drastically increased on all the islands.

Not saying the judge was right, but just trying to show that Kauai is different than most of the states.
 
2014-05-30 10:29:56 AM  
We had to walk a mile to get TO the bus stop, FFS.
 
2014-05-30 10:30:32 AM  

Mikey1969: Yeah, unless he was forcing him to walk on an Interstate or something, or the kid was 4, this is really bullshiat.

My adoptive "mother" would make me walk when we lived 3 miles outside of town, THAT was farked up, especially when someone would offer me a ride and I was terrified about the beating I'd get if I accepted one. A mile though? Schools around here won't bus if you're that close, so walking is the only option anyway, since they also don't provide a good setup for dropping kids off...


I lived in the city. The only school buses in the district were for the physically and/or mentally disabled students. You walked if you were within 30-minutes' walking distance, or could get a special pass to use the city bus if you lived further away.

I walked to school in Kindergarten with a bunch of other kids on the block, for Christ's sake. We all somehow got to school safely every day, despite city traffic. Could it be because our parents actually taught us everything we needed to know about crossing the street, and what to do if a stranger was being creepy and/or too friendly towards us?  Nah.... we must have just gotten lucky...

/Kids these days...
 
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