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(WSVN Miami)   No one to blame for this tragic event, says man who left a loaded AK-47 unattended, allowing his 6-year-old nephew to fatally shoot his grandfather   (wsvn.com) divider line 205
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2014-05-29 05:34:19 PM
The kid's grandfather or the gun owner's grandfather?

Oh, and this:

imgs.xkcd.com
 
2014-05-29 05:37:59 PM
kid was set the fark up.  The guy wanted grandpa dead.  check that will and life insurance.
 
2014-05-29 05:41:36 PM
Oh well, another day, another senseless gun death

/just the price we have to pay to cater to fear
 
2014-05-29 05:44:36 PM
Yesterday a 3 year old shot and killed his 18 month old brother.

Day before that a teenager shot his brother during an argument, then killed himself when he realized what he had done.

Day before that, a man shot his best friend during an argument over leftovers.

Doesn't happen anywhere but here, but there is just NOTHING we can do about it...
 
jbc [TotalFark]
2014-05-29 05:48:56 PM
His uncle says, even if his guns are returned to him by police, he does not want them anymore.

He should expect an angry and poorly-written letter from "Joe" the "Plumber" about his decision to politicize the grandfather's hurts "Joe".
 
2014-05-29 05:53:00 PM

mediablitz: Yesterday a 3 year old shot and killed his 18 month old brother.

Day before that a teenager shot his brother during an argument, then killed himself when he realized what he had done.

Day before that, a man shot his best friend during an argument over leftovers.

Doesn't happen anywhere but here, but there is just NOTHING we can do about it...


Doing ANYTHING at all constitutes  INFRINGEMENT!!!
Study it out.
 
2014-05-29 05:53:34 PM
Florida is a "Stand Your Ground" state, and gramps was coming for his ribs.
 
2014-05-29 05:58:20 PM
My highschool science teacher, in an attempt to prevent us from dropping microscopes and causing thousands of dollars of damage to equipment and ourselves told us "There's no such thing as an accident.  If you drop something, it's because YOU weren't careful."

There's a reason certain levels of negligence is criminal.  Because there are some things that just aren't accidents, if YOU weren't careful and someone died as a result, YOU are to blame.
 
2014-05-29 06:11:24 PM
that is some serious street cred for a 6-year-old.
 
2014-05-29 06:12:56 PM
 "No one to blame for this tragic event, says man"  No.  That's not what he said at all.


In fact, I'm pretty much sure that when the dad said, "I should've never brought the firearm out." that's an admission to blame.  Try again, subby.
 
2014-05-29 06:15:53 PM
"The 6-year-old has been very affected and is now receiving counseling."

The shoddy writing at 7 News, clearly, is no one's fault.
 
2014-05-29 06:18:08 PM
Okay, it's an unfortunate accident, but it could have been a lot worse. At least he and his God-given rights weren't trampled to death by unnecessary gun restrictions.
 
2014-05-29 06:20:07 PM

doyner: "The 6-year-old has been very affected and is now receiving counseling."

The shoddy writing at 7 News, clearly, is no one's fault.


I picked up on the shoddy writing right here:

His family said he also volunteered his time as a youth baseball couch.

I mean, shiat, we only got benches when I played.
 
2014-05-29 06:21:05 PM

netizencain: "No one to blame for this tragic event, says man"  No.  That's not what he said at all.


In fact, I'm pretty much sure that when the dad said, "I should've never brought the firearm out." that's an admission to blame.  Try again, subby.


You might try reading a little farther:

However, Martinez, Jr. said, there is no one to blame for this tragic event. "The family is not trying to point the finger at anybody," said Martinez, Jr. "This is a tragic event that occurred. We can't say it was my fault, it was my nephew's fault, it was my father's fault. It's just a tragic event that occurred. If there was anything I could do to bring him back, God help me I would," said Martinez Jr.

The direct quote has him deflecting blame from everyone involved.
 
2014-05-29 06:21:17 PM

Solid State Vittles: doyner: "The 6-year-old has been very affected and is now receiving counseling."

The shoddy writing at 7 News, clearly, is no one's fault.

I picked up on the shoddy writing right here:

His family said he also volunteered his time as a youth baseball couch.

I mean, shiat, we only got benches when I played.


Grab some upholstery, meat
 
2014-05-29 06:22:39 PM

Solid State Vittles: doyner: "The 6-year-old has been very affected and is now receiving counseling."

The shoddy writing at 7 News, clearly, is no one's fault.

I picked up on the shoddy writing right here:

His family said he also volunteered his time as a youth baseball couch.

I mean, shiat, we only got benches when I played.


You must have been very affected.
 
2014-05-29 06:24:09 PM

Solid State Vittles: His family said he also volunteered his time as a youth baseball couch.

I mean, shiat, we only got benches when I played.


That's what you get playin' in the California Penal League.
 
2014-05-29 06:24:12 PM

DrBenway: Okay, it's an unfortunate accident, but it could have been a lot worse. At least he and his Joe the Plumber's God-given rights weren't trampled to death by unnecessary gun restrictions.

 
2014-05-29 06:30:18 PM
"No one to blame" my ass. This is clearly Obama's fault.
 
2014-05-29 06:32:37 PM

Solid State Vittles: Florida is a "Stand Your Ground" state, and gramps was coming for his ribs.



Gramps had a loaded finger that was ready to go off at the slightest pull.
 
2014-05-29 06:33:46 PM

doyner: "The 6-year-old has been very affected and is now receiving counseling."

The shoddy writing at 7 News, clearly, is no one's fault.


Are you questioning the use of "affected"?
 
2014-05-29 06:49:15 PM

Gecko Gingrich: doyner: "The 6-year-old has been very affected and is now receiving counseling."

The shoddy writing at 7 News, clearly, is no one's fault.

Are you questioning the use of "affected"?


Sort of.  It's very clunky writing which caps off an article with redundant quote attribution and the identification of the perp as a couch.
 
2014-05-29 06:50:35 PM

propasaurus: DrBenway: Okay, it's an unfortunate accident, but it could have been a lot worse. At least he and his Joe the Plumber's God-given rights weren't trampled to death by unnecessary gun restrictions.


Whenever I see one of these tools complain about how their rights are being "trampled," I've started imagining their tombstone:

Here lies Joe the Plumber


Trampled to death by a 10-day waiting period

 
2014-05-29 07:14:04 PM

mediablitz: Doesn't happen anywhere but here, but there is just NOTHING we can do about it...


You don't get out of the country much, do you?
 
2014-05-29 07:16:54 PM

mediablitz: Yesterday a 3 year old shot and killed his 18 month old brother.

Day before that a teenager shot his brother during an argument, then killed himself when he realized what he had done.

Day before that, a man shot his best friend during an argument over leftovers.

Doesn't happen anywhere but here, but there is just NOTHING we can do about it...


MEH
less farktards in the gene pool
HARSH
and UNFAIR to the children

but their parents were FARKTARDS and it was close to 100% certain that those kids would have been bad for society.

/darwin
 
2014-05-29 07:57:12 PM

doyner: Gecko Gingrich: doyner: "The 6-year-old has been very affected and is now receiving counseling."

The shoddy writing at 7 News, clearly, is no one's fault.

Are you questioning the use of "affected"?

Sort of.  It's very clunky writing which caps off an article with redundant quote attribution and the identification of the perp as a couch.


Though it's not often used in such a manner, "affected" can mean "harmed psychologically". It wouldn't be out of place when mentioning that he is seeing a counselor.
 
2014-05-29 08:06:02 PM

OregonVet: mediablitz: Doesn't happen anywhere but here, but there is just NOTHING we can do about it...

You don't get out of the country much, do you?


I've been all over the world. Show me a 1st word country where this happens. UK? France, Germany, Belgium, Japan, Australia? You don't see friends and family shooting each other every day in those countries.

Pretend all you want.
 
2014-05-29 08:33:11 PM
I blame the kid, because he pulled the trigger. I blame the dad for not teaching his son how to properly handle a firearm. And I blame the grandpa for being old and slow, and not diving for cover.
 
2014-05-29 08:41:38 PM
 
2014-05-29 08:42:18 PM

"According to police, there were people drinking and doing drugs at the home. "In this particular case, investigators informed us, that there was alcohol involved. Not only alcohol. We also had drugs. We had cocaine," said Miami-Dade Police Detective Alvaro Zabaleta."


For purposes of making this story better I imagined the kid holding the AK-47 and saying, "Say hello to my leetle friend!"


alexpogeler.files.wordpress.com

 
2014-05-29 08:42:41 PM
I know, blame the guy who sold the gun. MERCHANT OF DEATH! MERCHANT OF DEATH!
 
2014-05-29 08:43:37 PM
Gun owners are responsible, trustworthy people.
 
2014-05-29 08:43:42 PM
No mention of an AK-47 in the entire article. This is for you, trollmitter:

i.imgur.com
 
2014-05-29 08:44:01 PM
Sounds to me like what these kids need is a gun safety class.
 
2014-05-29 08:44:32 PM

Gecko Gingrich: doyner: Gecko Gingrich: doyner: "The 6-year-old has been very affected and is now receiving counseling."

The shoddy writing at 7 News, clearly, is no one's fault.

Are you questioning the use of "affected"?

Sort of.  It's very clunky writing which caps off an article with redundant quote attribution and the identification of the perp as a couch.

Though it's not often used in such a manner, "affected" can mean "harmed psychologically". It wouldn't be out of place when mentioning that he is seeing a counselor.


Yes, but "significantly harmed psychologically" is better than "very harmed psychologically."  Anyway, re-read the whole thing.  It's terrible.
 
2014-05-29 08:45:09 PM
This wouldn't have happened if the grandfather had had a gun to defend himself.
 
2014-05-29 08:46:52 PM
When our Lord in Heaven decides it is time for another 2nd amendment rights gun owner to kill an innocent person, we all pray that even atheists will agree that it was their time to go and not the NRA.
 
2014-05-29 08:47:22 PM
The paranoids imagine a scenario where they will have to quickly grab their loaded weapon and defend themselves or defend their family.  But it seems that a fatal accident is much more likely than the hero scenario.  If you look at what happens in reality.

Seems to me the main thing you have to do when you own a firearm is keep it away from people.  Fighting bad guys with it is rare compared to fatal accidents.
 
2014-05-29 08:47:27 PM

skinink: "According to police, there were people drinking and doing drugs at the home. "In this particular case, investigators informed us, that there was alcohol involved. Not only alcohol. We also had drugs. We had cocaine," said Miami-Dade Police Detective Alvaro Zabaleta."
For purposes of making this story better I imagined the kid holding the AK-47 and saying, "Say hello to my leetle friend!"
[alexpogeler.files.wordpress.com image 383x295]


From the other article linked about it:

FTFA: Martinez, Jr. now faces charges of culpable negligence for his father's death. "I was smoking marijuana. I was doing cocaine, and I had two beers," admitted Martinez, Jr.

Yeah, getting drunk and coked up then bringing out an AK-47?  There was just no way for that to end well.
 
2014-05-29 08:48:10 PM
:giggle: baseball couch.
 
2014-05-29 08:48:17 PM

AngryDragon: No mention of an AK-47 in the entire article. This is for you, trollmitter:


Unless we know the exact model of rifle used to kill grandpa, we really can't say there was wrongdoing.
 
2014-05-29 08:50:37 PM

rbuzby: The paranoids imagine a scenario where they will have to quickly grab their loaded weapon and defend themselves or defend their family.  But it seems that a fatal accident is much more likely than the hero scenario.  If you look at what happens in reality.

Seems to me the main thing you have to do when you own a firearm is keep it away from people.  Fighting bad guys with it is rare compared to fatal accidents.


A gun in the home is 4 times more likely to be used in an accidental shooting, 7 times more likely to be used in an assault or murder, and 11 times more likely to be used in a suicide than it is to be used to protect the home or those inside of it.   Linky.
 
2014-05-29 08:51:07 PM

TuteTibiImperes: skinink: "According to police, there were people drinking and doing drugs at the home. "In this particular case, investigators informed us, that there was alcohol involved. Not only alcohol. We also had drugs. We had cocaine," said Miami-Dade Police Detective Alvaro Zabaleta."
For purposes of making this story better I imagined the kid holding the AK-47 and saying, "Say hello to my leetle friend!"
[alexpogeler.files.wordpress.com image 383x295]

From the other article linked about it:

FTFA: Martinez, Jr. now faces charges of culpable negligence for his father's death. "I was smoking marijuana. I was doing cocaine, and I had two beers," admitted Martinez, Jr.

Yeah, getting drunk and coked up then bringing out an AK-47?  There was just no way for that to end well.


lol, 2 beers. Even after admitting to getting someone killed, smoking weed and doing coke, he falls back on the pre-programmed classic "I've only had 2 beers officer"
 
2014-05-29 08:51:13 PM

mediablitz: Yesterday a 3 year old shot and killed his 18 month old brother.

Day before that a teenager shot his brother during an argument, then killed himself when he realized what he had done.

Day before that, a man shot his best friend during an argument over leftovers.



Big Jim's been drinkin' whiskey and playin' poker on a losin' night
An' pretty soon, Big Jim starts a thinkin' somebody been cheatin' and lyin'
So Big Jim commences to fightin', I wouldn't tell you lie, no, no, no
Big Jim done pulled his pistol, shot his friend right between the eyes


-- Lynrd Skynyrd, "Saturday Night Special"
 
2014-05-29 08:51:38 PM
It's a classic False Flag operation right out of the Saul Alinski playbook. If they dig deeper, they will likely find that the 6-year old was a plant from the Department of Homeland Security. This little stunt was meant to ignite anti -gun sentiment in print and social media. Was there even a grandpa in the first place, or is this just part of the script? Study it out.
 
2014-05-29 08:52:38 PM
I blame Mikhail Kalashnikov.
 
2014-05-29 08:52:52 PM

soseussme: This wouldn't have happened if the grandfather had had a gun to defend himself.


No, what was needed was a good 6 year-old with an AK.
 
2014-05-29 08:55:39 PM
"Don't worry, I know what I'm doing." says every gun owner, ever.
 
2014-05-29 08:56:59 PM
He should have left the AK in the trash can where it belongs.
 
2014-05-29 08:56:59 PM
A gun in the home is 4 times more likely to be used in an accidental shooting, 7 times more likely to be used in an assault or murder, and 11 times more likely to be used in a suicide than it is to be used to protect the home or those inside of it.   Linky.

That's why I keep my guns chained up in the yard with the pitbulls. Just turn your back for a second, and those things will turn on you.
 
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