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(The Consumerist)   Netflix CEO says Comcast is hiding under the bed and is coming for all of us   (consumerist.com) divider line 37
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2014-05-29 06:08:55 PM
Obvious tag's Comcast cable went down?
 
2014-05-29 06:22:30 PM

DanZero: Obvious tag's Comcast cable went down?


Scary used less characters, so was cheaper.
 
2014-05-29 07:09:54 PM
Broadband over Power Lines would have completely killed Comcast's monopoly and lowered prices significantly. Funny how stuff like that never works out.
 
2014-05-29 08:05:30 PM
So why did he let them stick their finger up his anus?
 
2014-05-29 08:11:08 PM
He's not lying.
 
2014-05-29 08:24:34 PM
Word
 
2014-05-29 08:27:48 PM

Triumph: Broadband over Power Lines would have completely killed Comcast's monopoly and lowered prices significantly. Funny how stuff like that never works out.


That would have introduced a few more technical challenges that would cost billions, but it's looking like a bargain in hindsight.
 
2014-05-29 08:33:21 PM
They're not hiding under the bed, they're on top of you, beating the shiat out of you.
 
2014-05-29 08:37:58 PM
How is this any different from a mob "protection" racket?
 
2014-05-29 08:45:12 PM
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2014-05-29 08:51:23 PM

DanZero: Obvious tag's Comcast cable went down?


It's hiding under the covers.
 
2014-05-29 08:53:51 PM
"Comcast continues to claim that Netflix is thirty percent of their internet traffic, and so should pay its fair share. Hastings quipped, "We offered to pay 30 percent of the costs if we get 30 percent of the revenue." Comcast was not particularly interested in that arrangement."

Now, that there is funny. It might be 30% of their traffic, but the costs are maybe 3% of their revenue.
 
kab
2014-05-29 08:57:10 PM
Comcast continues to claim that Netflix is thirty percent of their internet traffic, and so should pay its fair share.

That's what Comcast customers are doing.

There is absolutely zero positive long term good to be had from this merger from the point of a consumer.  None at all.
 
2014-05-29 09:01:03 PM

kab: Comcast continues to claim that Netflix is thirty percent of their internet traffic, and so should pay its fair share.


That's what Comcast customers are doing.

There is absolutely zero positive long term good to be had from this merger from the point of a consumer.  None at all



Seriously this.  Your customers are paying to have access to things like Netflix.  Hell, I bet they ever featured streaming video in their advertisements to entice people to sign up.  Netflix being a huge chunk of their traffic is a feature, not a bug.
 
2014-05-29 09:06:57 PM

Triumph: Broadband over Power Lines would have completely killed Comcast's monopoly and lowered prices significantly. Funny how stuff like that never works out.


Because it was a crappy, ill conceived technology, that for all the expense provided very few benefit other than slow speeds and a shiat ton of RF interference?

Not to mention tests worldwide proved that it was not ready for prime time?
 
2014-05-29 09:14:12 PM
Don't worry, they're only after the children

m.quickmeme.com
 
2014-05-29 09:28:54 PM
Netflix endorses net neutrality because they make a lot of money out of it. It's like a trucking company objecting to the idea of toll roads.
 
2014-05-29 09:35:13 PM

oh_please: They're not hiding under the bed, they're on top of you, beating the shiat out of you.


If Comcast is on top of me, who's behind me? Must be Verizon.
 
2014-05-29 09:44:03 PM

kab: Comcast continues to claim that Netflix is thirty percent of their internet traffic, and so should pay its fair share.

That's what Comcast customers are doing.

There is absolutely zero positive long term good to be had from this merger from the point of a consumer.  None at all.


They can effectivly censor information, were comcast and twc to merge
 
2014-05-29 09:48:51 PM

RedPhoenix122: DanZero: Obvious tag's Comcast cable went down?

Scary used less characters, so was cheaper.


Obvious was over the cap...
 
2014-05-29 10:12:44 PM

Triumph: Broadband over Power Lines would have completely killed Comcast's monopoly and lowered prices significantly. Funny how stuff like that never works out.


The asshole across the street flushing his toilet causes line noise. Fark BOPL.
 
2014-05-29 10:17:51 PM
Come on Google Fiber, papa needs a faster internet connection.
 
2014-05-29 10:39:33 PM

DanZero: Obvious tag's Comcast cable went down?


Done in one
 
2014-05-29 10:55:05 PM

zjoik: They can effectivly censor information, were comcast and twc to merge


Nailed it. Host a website that has negative articles or opinion pieces about the carrier? Expect to be throttled to 1Kb/s (unless you're willing to pay to have your pieces allowed to be on their network). Have a site that endorses a certain political party or candidate that doesn't really like the policies of the ISP? They can easily pull the "sorry, your bits are too much for us, pay up or have your packets lost in transmission unless you cut us a check." Social media sites, content providers, local/national news websites... They're all the mercy of a Board of Directors.

We're looking at ISPs, with the government giving them the thumbs up, controlling all information, and the effect won't be limited to just to articles or news sites.... Businesses require the internet for almost every aspect of their day-to-day operations, and not just for doing business with someone on the other side of the state, but interstate and internationally as well. They will be hit by multiple ISPs for "bandwidth usage fees" that they will have to pay in order for their customers to be able to do business with them on different providers.
 
2014-05-29 11:01:03 PM

RoxtarRyan: zjoik: They can effectivly censor information, were comcast and twc to merge

Nailed it. Host a website that has negative articles or opinion pieces about the carrier? Expect to be throttled to 1Kb/s (unless you're willing to pay to have your pieces allowed to be on their network). Have a site that endorses a certain political party or candidate that doesn't really like the policies of the ISP? They can easily pull the "sorry, your bits are too much for us, pay up or have your packets lost in transmission unless you cut us a check." Social media sites, content providers, local/national news websites... They're all the mercy of a Board of Directors.

We're looking at ISPs, with the government giving them the thumbs up, controlling all information, and the effect won't be limited to just to articles or news sites.... Businesses require the internet for almost every aspect of their day-to-day operations, and not just for doing business with someone on the other side of the state, but interstate and internationally as well. They will be hit by multiple ISPs for "bandwidth usage fees" that they will have to pay in order for their customers to be able to do business with them on different providers.


In answer to

Irving Maimway: How is this any different from a mob "protection" racket?


... It's not.
 
2014-05-29 11:01:31 PM

ReverendJynxed: Triumph: Broadband over Power Lines would have completely killed Comcast's monopoly and lowered prices significantly. Funny how stuff like that never works out.

The asshole across the street flushing his toilet causes line noise. Fark BOPL.


My understanding was the main hurdle they couldn't overcome was high tension lines turning into giant radio interference devices. Especially shortwave.
 
2014-05-29 11:40:41 PM

narkor: Netflix endorses net neutrality because they make a lot of money out of it. It's like a trucking company objecting to the idea of toll roads.


Like a trucking company objecting to the idea of paying more tolls when the tolls have been prepaid by the recipient.
 
2014-05-29 11:49:01 PM
The solution is simple. Every time Comcast does something to screw with the Internet, Netflix or some other big company just hires an assassin and has the CEO of Comcast knocked off.

If the successor does it, then they knock off the successor, too.

Eventually, when the job and the unethical bullshiat is too dangerous, Comcast will get the message and stop farking with everyone.

Maybe that's too harsh?
 
2014-05-30 07:03:07 AM

narkor: Netflix endorses net neutrality because they make a lot of money out of it. It's like a trucking company objecting to the idea of toll roads.


No.  Netflix endorses net neutrality because it's like a on-line retailer that uses UPS, and then is told by UPS that since most of what they haul comes from Netflix, they want Netflix to pay "their share", even though the customers are already paying shipping fees.
An even better example would be Amazon - no not as the sender of goods, but as if Amazon.com were to realize that Disney products (merchandise, DVDs, instant video, etc) were 30% of what people were ordering through Amazon... So Amazon tells Disney it wants them to pay Amazon more because of it, even though consumers already are covering all the existing costs.

Now, in reality if this were the case, either Amazon would work out a deal with Disney for premium listings on search results, increased suggested also-buys, and ad space; or Disney would just buy Amazon out.
 
2014-05-30 08:31:18 AM

narkor: Netflix endorses net neutrality because they make a lot of money out of it. It's like a trucking company objecting to the idea of toll roads.


It's more like a trucking company objecting to the idea of toll roads that are owned by another, competing trucking company, which in turn allows their own trucks to use the roads at a reduced rate or even for free, while giving them a dedicated lane so they can bypass the congestion.

Here, the "trucks" are steaming video; Netflix competes with Comcast in on-demand video streaming, as well as indirectly for cable television (think how many TV shows Netflix offers for on-demand). Rather than strive to provide a better service, Comcast throws up barriers and makes Netflix pay extra to get around them.
=Smidge=
 
2014-05-30 09:01:36 AM
We really need a Comcast tag.
 
2014-05-30 09:21:13 AM

narkor: Netflix endorses net neutrality because they make a lot of money out of it. It's like a trucking company objecting to the idea of toll roads.


That's not really a valid comparison considering the average 18-wheeler does 10,000 times more damage to the road than the average car does.

/Yep, that's the real number, it's exponential biatches.
 
2014-05-30 11:07:02 AM

Triumph: ReverendJynxed: Triumph: Broadband over Power Lines would have completely killed Comcast's monopoly and lowered prices significantly. Funny how stuff like that never works out.

The asshole across the street flushing his toilet causes line noise. Fark BOPL.

My understanding was the main hurdle they couldn't overcome was high tension lines turning into giant radio interference devices. Especially shortwave.


That old bearded weirdo with a ham radio killed it. There was others like GPS navigation if under it. Mix in it was too slow and no one cares about it anymore.
 
2014-05-30 01:00:02 PM

Intrepid00: Triumph: ReverendJynxed: Triumph: Broadband over Power Lines would have completely killed Comcast's monopoly and lowered prices significantly. Funny how stuff like that never works out.

The asshole across the street flushing his toilet causes line noise. Fark BOPL.

My understanding was the main hurdle they couldn't overcome was high tension lines turning into giant radio interference devices. Especially shortwave.

That old bearded weirdo with a ham radio killed it. There was others like GPS navigation if under it. Mix in it was too slow and no one cares about it anymore.


E-Line technology could push the data rates to 1Gbit/sec and shifts the frequency band into a UHF region where interference might be much less of a problem. Plus it seems like it'd cost peanuts compared to laying fiber.
 
2014-05-30 01:37:51 PM

erik-k: Irving Maimway: How is this any different from a mob "protection" racket?

... It's not.


Nice bandwidth you've got there.  It'd be a shame if something were to cap it.
 
2014-05-30 08:24:16 PM

Intrepid00: That old bearded weirdo with a ham radio killed it. There was others like GPS navigation if under it. Mix in it was too slow and no one cares about it anymore.


That "old bearded weirdo" probably invented 90% of what modern comm tech we have and use - and there might be DAMN good reasons we don't want to fark around on his lawn.
 
2014-05-30 09:04:12 PM

Bio-nic: Intrepid00: That old bearded weirdo with a ham radio killed it. There was others like GPS navigation if under it. Mix in it was too slow and no one cares about it anymore.

That "old bearded weirdo" probably invented 90% of what modern comm tech we have and use - and there might be DAMN good reasons we don't want to fark around on his lawn.


Found the ham radio guy.

Seriously though, no we don't. Ham radio operators tend to be pretty important in emergencies.
 
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