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(Talking Points Memo)   Orrin Hatch: "It's only a matter of time before Uncle Sam holds a gun to my head and forces me to marry my six children, my cat Sprinkles, the Washington Monument, and the rotting corpse of George Washington"   (talkingpointsmemo.com) divider line 79
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2014-05-29 11:10:33 AM  
Trolling headline aside, Hatch's position seems to be almost reasonable: "I don't agree with gay marriage, but I respect the decision of the Courts."
 
2014-05-29 11:16:38 AM  
No way is George Washington's corpse still rotting.
 
2014-05-29 11:26:30 AM  
Like Orrin Hatch could pull a hottie like George Washington. He'd be lucky to sniff Caesar Rodney's pantaloons.
 
2014-05-29 12:18:42 PM  
He's my Senator.  While I don't usually agree with him, I generally find him civil and reasonable.  This is a good example.  Our other Senator, though . . .
 
2014-05-29 12:51:12 PM  
Why would you marry Sprinkles???
Why buy the cat when you're getting the pussy for free??
 
2014-05-29 01:07:35 PM  

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Hatch's position seems to be almost reasonable:

Hatch also questioned whether judges should be able to tell states how to handle an important matter like marriage.


Which is unreasonable. When people get married are they still married when they travel outside the state they got married in? Yes -then it ought to be a federal issue and not determined by individual states.
 
2014-05-29 01:46:16 PM  

Because People in power are Stupid: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Hatch's position seems to be almost reasonable:

Hatch also questioned whether judges should be able to tell states how to handle an important matter like marriage.

Which is unreasonable. When people get married are they still married when they travel outside the state they got married in? Yes -then it ought to be a federal issue and not determined by individual states.


THIS
PERIOD

I think Hatch is just pissed that SCOTUS stayed the decision.
He wasn't able to get divorced in time to marry his gay lover.
 
2014-05-29 01:51:31 PM  

Because People in power are Stupid: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Hatch's position seems to be almost reasonable:

Hatch also questioned whether judges should be able to tell states how to handle an important matter like marriage.

Which is unreasonable. When people get married are they still married when they travel outside the state they got married in? Yes -then it ought to be a federal issue and not determined by individual states.


It goes deeper than that. The states have no business legislating basic human rights. That shiat's too important.
 
2014-05-29 01:59:15 PM  
I thought Orrin Hatch was a rotting corpse.
 
2014-05-29 02:11:59 PM  

namatad: THIS
PERIOD


Agreed; marriage comes with so many federal, interstate and state rights and privileges to the couple that it goes way beyond states' ability to restrict it on what boil down to religious terms.

However, it is nice that at least at the top they're starting to see the writing on the wall.
 
2014-05-29 03:04:54 PM  
RINO
 
2014-05-29 03:10:53 PM  

factoryconnection: namatad: THIS
PERIOD

Agreed; marriage comes with so many federal, interstate and state rights and privileges to the couple that it goes way beyond states' ability to restrict it on what boil down to religious terms.

However, it is nice that at least at the top they're starting to see the writing on the wall.


It is a done deal. The next time SCOTUS rules on this, they will have no choice but to legalize federally.
They were lame last time and came close.
Now with the number of state and federal cases coming their way, it is a clear message.
Just a matter of which state(s) will be forced out of the dark ages.
 
2014-05-29 03:11:48 PM  
Wasn't Orrin Hatch the one who leaked to the media in the late 90's that we had Osama Bin Laden's satellite phone tapped?
 
2014-05-29 03:13:03 PM  
Darn, I wish he actually did say that, although it sounds more like a Boehner thing to say.
 
2014-05-29 03:14:00 PM  

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Trolling headline aside, Hatch's position seems to be almost reasonable: "I don't agree with gay marriage, but I respect the decision of the Courts."


Yeah, this is the more relevant quote:

He said he doesn't agree with the string of pro-gay marriage rulings, but defended two Utah judges who issued such decisions. Hatch said Robert Shelby and Dale Kimball are both excellent federal judges. Hatch recommended both for the bench - Shelby in 2011 and Kimball in 1997.
"How do you blame the judge for deciding a case in accordance with what the Supreme Court has already articulated?" Hatch said.


Normally, I say "Fark you" to a guy who ran on a platform of term limits. Seven terms ago, but he at least understands how the courts work.

Trollmitter should know that you don't submit a made up quote with any thing but single quotes, that denotes paraphrasing, whereas subby is implying that this was ACTUALLY said. Hell, I'm not even finding old quotes by Hatch that are any worse...
 
2014-05-29 03:14:19 PM  
And that's why the GOP have Orrin in a leadership role anymore.
 
2014-05-29 03:16:25 PM  

namatad: factoryconnection: namatad: THIS
PERIOD

Agreed; marriage comes with so many federal, interstate and state rights and privileges to the couple that it goes way beyond states' ability to restrict it on what boil down to religious terms.

However, it is nice that at least at the top they're starting to see the writing on the wall.

It is a done deal. The next time SCOTUS rules on this, they will have no choice but to legalize federally.
They were lame last time and came close.
Now with the number of state and federal cases coming their way, it is a clear message.
Just a matter of which state(s) will be forced out of the dark ages.


The funny thing is that NOM still truly believes SCOTUS will look at the almost thirty state and federal judges who have unanimously ruled that equal protection demands marriage equality and say "Nah, those guys are all morons, states can ban gays farking if they want."
 
2014-05-29 03:17:46 PM  

Eddie Adams from Torrance: Because People in power are Stupid: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Hatch's position seems to be almost reasonable:

Hatch also questioned whether judges should be able to tell states how to handle an important matter like marriage.

Which is unreasonable. When people get married are they still married when they travel outside the state they got married in? Yes -then it ought to be a federal issue and not determined by individual states.

It goes deeper than that. The states have no business legislating basic human rights. That shiat's too important.


Yet Texas executes people despite their rights being violated...
 
2014-05-29 03:21:12 PM  
I bet if you threw in the corpse of St. Reagan as a deal sweetener it would change his tune.

/dnrtfa
 
2014-05-29 03:23:51 PM  
The only way anyone would screw Hatch is with a gun to their head.
 
2014-05-29 03:25:02 PM  
Now the rotting corpse of Reagan, that's just Tuesday Night for these people.
 
2014-05-29 03:27:02 PM  

Serious Black: The funny thing is that NOM still truly believes SCOTUS will look at the almost thirty state and federal judges who have unanimously ruled that equal protection demands marriage equality and say "Nah, those guys are all morons, states can ban gays farking if they want."


Delusion is Delusion. These people believe in an all powerful magic sky being who controls everything in their lives.  Why would they accept a trend, like the growing acceptance of equality for same sex?

These people are still certain that Obama stole the 2008 election and the 2012 election.
The POLLS WERE ALL SKEWED!!!

/FFS, they dont even except basic science like polling. LOL
 
2014-05-29 03:28:00 PM  
img.fark.net
 
2014-05-29 03:30:51 PM  
Why do people vote for bigots and racists? Are that many adults in this country really this immature???
 
2014-05-29 03:30:53 PM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: Like Orrin Hatch could pull a hottie like George Washington. He'd be lucky to sniff Caesar Rodney's pantaloons.


How about the rotting corpse on Ayn Rand?

/dnrtfa
 
2014-05-29 03:31:51 PM  

TheNewJesus: Why do people vote for bigots and racists? Are that many adults in this country really this immature???


Haters gonna...vote, apparently.
 
2014-05-29 03:32:02 PM  

rjakobi: And that's why the GOP have Orrin in a leadership role anymore.


Hatch was never majority or minority lead.
He was outspoken, which I guess that you could argue is leadership. He isnt as batshiat crazy as the rest of the GOP, so he was a rational interview I guess.
 
2014-05-29 03:33:02 PM  

TheNewJesus: Why do people vote for bigots and racists? Are that many adults in this country really this immature???


Looks at your fark handle.
Yup
As long as people believe in god, people will vote for bigots and racists.
Indoctrination starts at home.
 
2014-05-29 03:36:25 PM  

Eddie Adams from Torrance: Because People in power are Stupid: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Hatch's position seems to be almost reasonable:

Hatch also questioned whether judges should be able to tell states how to handle an important matter like marriage.

Which is unreasonable. When people get married are they still married when they travel outside the state they got married in? Yes -then it ought to be a federal issue and not determined by individual states.

It goes deeper than that. The states have no business legislating basic human rights. That shiat's too important.


The federal government is just as screwed up as the states.
 
2014-05-29 03:46:07 PM  
That...actually sounded reasonable.

Too bad he's such a sock puppet for the "nutritional supplement" industry.
 
2014-05-29 03:50:11 PM  
And I would gladly buy a ticket to watch that great event...
 
2014-05-29 03:53:57 PM  
It's weird how some people go right to pedophilia. It's almost like it's always on their mind.
 
2014-05-29 04:00:22 PM  

Russ1642: Eddie Adams from Torrance: Because People in power are Stupid: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Hatch's position seems to be almost reasonable:

Hatch also questioned whether judges should be able to tell states how to handle an important matter like marriage.

Which is unreasonable. When people get married are they still married when they travel outside the state they got married in? Yes -then it ought to be a federal issue and not determined by individual states.

It goes deeper than that. The states have no business legislating basic human rights. That shiat's too important.

The federal government is just as screwed up as the states.



Russ1642: Eddie Adams from Torrance: Because People in power are Stupid: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Hatch's position seems to be almost reasonable:

Hatch also questioned whether judges should be able to tell states how to handle an important matter like marriage.

Which is unreasonable. When people get married are they still married when they travel outside the state they got married in? Yes -then it ought to be a federal issue and not determined by individual states.

It goes deeper than that. The states have no business legislating basic human rights. That shiat's too important.

The federal government is just as screwed up as the states.


The governments of Florida, Louisiana, Illinois, New York, New Jersey, Arizona and most every other state show that to be demonstrably false.

The feds have their issues, but the states are overwhelmingly festering pools of corruption, incompetence or both.
 
2014-05-29 04:05:09 PM  
That was an unnecessarily inflammatory headline. His position on the issue aside, at least Hatch appears to acknowledge reality without resorting to complaints of "activist judges".

/oh, and retire already you old coot!
 
2014-05-29 04:12:03 PM  
Why would he be forced to marry his six children, his cat Sprinkles, the Washington Monument and the corpse of George Washington with a gun to his head?

Did he fark them all and get them pregnant?
 
2014-05-29 04:14:35 PM  
Wow, a republican senator that made perfectly reasonable remarks on a divisive issue. I'm confused......
 
2014-05-29 04:31:33 PM  
Wow, that was actually a reasonable response.

BTW subby: the headline, while misleading, was brilliant. It takes a true Aristocrat to cover pedophilia, besiality, objectophilia, and necrophilia in one fell swoop.
 
2014-05-29 04:32:11 PM  

insertsnarkyusername: Wow, a republican senator that made perfectly reasonable remarks on a divisive issue. I'm confused......


Maybe he realizes he's getting up in age and would like his legacy to be something other than "an idiot on the wrong side of history". Or maybe he's smart enough to realize the tides are turning and there's really nothing anyone can do to stop it at this point.  Every state will eventually legalize gay marriage, even if they have to be dragged there kicking and screaming all the while.
 
2014-05-29 04:34:37 PM  
It seems odd that Mormon politicians never try to scare the populace by claiming that same-sex marriage will lead to polyamory.
 
2014-05-29 04:37:13 PM  
To each other? I think Mr. Hatch's name in reality isn't "Orrin"...it's "Booby".
 
2014-05-29 04:39:03 PM  

serpent_sky: insertsnarkyusername: Wow, a republican senator that made perfectly reasonable remarks on a divisive issue. I'm confused......

Maybe he realizes he's getting up in age and would like his legacy to be something other than "an idiot on the wrong side of history". Or maybe he's smart enough to realize the tides are turning and there's really nothing anyone can do to stop it at this point.  Every state will eventually legalize gay marriage, even if they have to be dragged there kicking and screaming all the while.


he nominated the two judges that made the verdicts he was talking about.

i'm not really seeing the complexity to figuring out his motives here, really.
 
2014-05-29 04:47:26 PM  

heap: he nominated the two judges that made the verdicts he was talking about.

i'm not really seeing the complexity to figuring out his motives here, really.


Sometimes, I can be oddly optimistic.... but you're probably correct.
 
2014-05-29 04:57:06 PM  

lilbjorn: It seems odd that Mormon politicians never try to scare the populace by claiming that same-sex marriage will lead to polyamory.


The LDS really, really, REALLY, does NOT want a national discussion on the history of their church.
 
2014-05-29 05:00:01 PM  

formerfloozy: Wow, that was actually a reasonable response.

BTW subby: the headline, while misleading, was brilliant. It takes a true Aristocrat to cover pedophilia, besiality, objectophilia, and necrophilia in one fell swoop.


You forgot polygamy. You can't forget polygamy.

/subby
 
2014-05-29 05:00:05 PM  

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Trolling headline aside, Hatch's position seems to be almost reasonable: "I don't agree with gay marriage, but I respect the decision of the Courts."


Came to say this about trolling vs. reasonable.
 
2014-05-29 05:15:00 PM  

UNC_Samurai: lilbjorn: It seems odd that Mormon politicians never try to scare the populace by claiming that same-sex marriage will lead to polyamory.

The LDS really, really, REALLY, does NOT want a national discussion on the history of their church.


seriously, the next logical fight is for poly equality 
HAH
 
2014-05-29 05:20:43 PM  

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Trolling headline aside, Hatch's position seems to be almost reasonable: "I don't agree with gay marriage, but I respect the decision of the Courts."


Yeah, that was far less derpy than I was expecting.
 
2014-05-29 05:22:35 PM  

serpent_sky: Maybe he realizes he's getting up in age and would like his legacy to be something other than "an idiot on the wrong side of history". Or maybe he's smart enough to realize the tides are turning and there's really nothing anyone can do to stop it at this point. Every state will eventually legalize gay marriage, even if they have to be dragged there kicking and screaming all the while.


Which is exactly why I don't believe an issue of basic human rights should be a state rights issue.  It's a federal issue.  I'm originally from Kentucky, which I'm certain will be one of those states that will have to be dragged into it kicking and screaming.
 
2014-05-29 05:32:39 PM  

Soup4Bonnie: [img.fark.net image 450x560]


Your dog doesn't understand the difference between 'affect' and 'effect' either.
 
2014-05-29 05:39:30 PM  
So, the good Senator is against gay marriage, but believes "nobody should suffer discrimination".

Uhuh.
 
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