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2014-05-29 08:37:26 AM
I like to switch it up. I usuallly start by lightly fingering the underwire in the middle of the bra. I will more often than not slip around to the back and start the unhooking.

Wait.   Ohhhhh. chess moves...

/never mind
 
2014-05-29 09:46:33 AM
Great.  Now I'll be thinking about voluptuous Orion slave girls all day...
 
2014-05-29 10:20:17 AM

UberDave: Great.  Now I'll be thinking about voluptuous Orion slave girls all day...


How is that different than any other day?
 
2014-05-29 10:43:29 AM
is not to play
 
2014-05-29 11:01:21 AM
Hulk Smash the board?
 
2014-05-29 11:06:48 AM
www.reddwarf.co.uk
 
2014-05-29 11:17:38 AM
I remember when I played Chessmaster 3000 on Windows 3.x as a kid, I'd always open in a particular way because the game recognized it as the "Boden-Kieseritzky Gambit" or something, and I was like "I love X-Men!"
 
2014-05-29 11:23:44 AM
I was a big fan of "Battle Chess".   My opening move was Knight to slay pawn e2.
 
2014-05-29 11:24:59 AM
Then again I always lost at chess because I was too busy flogging my bishop.
 
2014-05-29 11:28:10 AM
I didn't look through more than the first couple of moves in the Kasparov -Topalov game in the article, but I'm assuming it's the Pirc game where Kasparov speculatively sacrificed both rooks on moves 24 and 25 and brought Topalov's king all the way across the board. If it is this game I don't get why it's in an article about openings, since it's known as a middle game masterpiece.

No reason to bring up the Pirc in an openings article in general since most e4 games go ...e5 or into one of the many Sicilians.

/lost a lot of games playing the Pirc, I always wonder why I used it halfway through.
 
2014-05-29 11:28:46 AM
Author writes an interesting article but really blunders (pun intended) when trying to quantify the prominence of certain openings.

I play Nf3 almost exclusively as white, and have done so for several years. I like the flexibility that it brings to white and can usually get a solid middle game position against even much stronger opponents. The reason I point that out is Nf3 is usually played a transpositional move; Nf3 d5 d4 typically transitions into a Queens pawn game, Nf3 c5 can transition into either an English (c4) or Sicilian game (e4) depending on what white wants to do, and so on.

TLDR: I know I'm not the only Nf3 player out there, and the author seems to think we are almost non-existant.
 
2014-05-29 11:35:35 AM

BlueFalconPunch: I know I'm not the only Nf3 player out there, and the author seems to think we are almost non-existant


It says about 10% of all openings fit your style.. not non-existant.
 
2014-05-29 11:39:36 AM
www.smbc-comics.com
 
2014-05-29 12:01:44 PM

MugzyBrown: BlueFalconPunch: I know I'm not the only Nf3 player out there, and the author seems to think we are almost non-existant

It says about 10% of all openings fit your style.. not non-existant.


You miss my point (admittedly I don't think I made it very well). First chart has the 10% figure you quote. Somehow, on the chart showing whites follow-up move, that 10% vanishes. I made the point originally that Nf3 is typically used for transposition, however that 10% should still be present in the 2nd chart.
 
2014-05-29 12:01:55 PM

MugzyBrown: BlueFalconPunch: I know I'm not the only Nf3 player out there, and the author seems to think we are almost non-existant

It says about 10% of all openings fit your style.. not non-existant.


There was a while there where knight 1.Nf3. seemed very common, I feel like I remember Kramnik using it almost exclusively for a couple of years when he was champion. I don't know how often the Reti is played though, it seems like they'd mostly end up in a queens gambit or English. 10% seems like a lot of games though, anyone know how often it's played vs how often 1.c4 is played?
 
2014-05-29 12:04:43 PM

knight_on_the_rail: MugzyBrown: BlueFalconPunch: I know I'm not the only Nf3 player out there, and the author seems to think we are almost non-existant

It says about 10% of all openings fit your style.. not non-existant.

There was a while there where knight 1.Nf3. seemed very common, I feel like I remember Kramnik using it almost exclusively for a couple of years when he was champion. I don't know how often the Reti is played though, it seems like they'd mostly end up in a queens gambit or English. 10% seems like a lot of games though, anyone know how often it's played vs how often 1.c4 is played?


Current order of preference runs e4, d4, Nf3, and c4 in order of decreasing popularity, I believe (don't quote me on that, I heard it a while ago and may be wrong.)
 
2014-05-29 12:10:52 PM

BlueFalconPunch: however that 10% should still be present in the 2nd chart.


First off, I have no understanding of 99% of the chess crap.. with that said..

The 2nd chart is influenced by the 1st.  So because 80% of the moves are started by e4 and d4, then about 80% of the defenses on the 2nd move will relate to that first move... so your precious move is thrown into the "other" category" at that point.

Your move probably gets split up into too many counter-moves to show on the chart.
 
2014-05-29 12:24:03 PM
www.chessgames.com has a huge database of openings and historical games. Good stuff.
 
2014-05-29 12:49:43 PM

bbqsandwich: www.chessgames.com has a huge database of openings and historical games. Good stuff.


Seconded, were you around for the recent candidates tournament trollathon? Good times, it was similar to a Fark cowboys thread but actually funny.
 
2014-05-29 12:58:13 PM
Chess thread?

I get my kicks below the waistline, Sunshine.
 
2014-05-29 01:01:06 PM
I thought it was Knight jumps queen, followed quickly by Bishop jumps Queen and Pawns jump Queen!.
 
2014-05-29 01:10:35 PM
I always try to finish the game as quickly as possible.

As White, there's a way you can checkmate in 4 moves that I always try first.

Kings Opening (e4)
Bishop to B4
Queen to F3 or H5
Queen to F7, as long as the bishop at B4 is covering the White Queen, and only the Black King can capture the White Queen.

Checkmate.

If at any point Black counters this, I'll leave my Queen at home and try something else with either Knight first.
 
2014-05-29 01:51:31 PM

mainstreet62: I always try to finish the game as quickly as possible.

As White, there's a way you can checkmate in 4 moves that I always try first.

Kings Opening (e4)
Bishop to B4
Queen to F3 or H5
Queen to F7, as long as the bishop at B4 is covering the White Queen, and only the Black King can capture the White Queen.

Checkmate.

If at any point Black counters this, I'll leave my Queen at home and try something else with either Knight first.


Well that's all well and good but moving your bishop to b4 is tough to do on your second move. Just sayin'.
 
2014-05-29 02:01:20 PM

knight_on_the_rail: mainstreet62: I always try to finish the game as quickly as possible.

As White, there's a way you can checkmate in 4 moves that I always try first.

Kings Opening (e4)
Bishop to B4
Queen to F3 or H5
Queen to F7, as long as the bishop at B4 is covering the White Queen, and only the Black King can capture the White Queen.

Checkmate.

If at any point Black counters this, I'll leave my Queen at home and try something else with either Knight first.

Well that's all well and good but moving your bishop to b4 is tough to do on your second move. Just sayin'.


C4.
 
2014-05-29 02:15:02 PM

LemSkroob: I thought it was Knight jumps queen, followed quickly by Bishop jumps Queen and Pawns jump Queen!.


You look suspiciously like the piss boy.
 
2014-05-29 02:41:24 PM
Data: "A characteristic response to the Kriskoff Gambit is to counter with the El Mitra Exchange, particularly since I have already taken both of your rooks. By missing that opportunity, you have left your king vulnerable."
Troi: "We'll see."
Data: "As you wish, Counselor. Check." [...] "Intriguing. You have devised a completely unanticipated response to a classic attack. You will checkmate my king in seven moves."
Troi: "Data. Chess isn't just a game of ploys and gambits. It's a game of intuition."
Data: "Hmm. You are a challenging opponent, Counselor."

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I always thought this scene was crap.  The smartest robot alive can't figure out what counselor troi is up to??
 
2014-05-29 02:55:22 PM
knight jumps queen, bishop jumps queen, pawns jump queen.... GANG BANG...
 
2014-05-29 03:05:31 PM
Whew. I was starting to get worried that HotWP1 reference was not going to be found, but the end of this thread restored my faith.
 
2014-05-29 03:35:15 PM
White Queen to section 5, grid 6.
Queen takes Knight.  Rook takes Queen.
White pawn to section 5, grid 7.
Pawn takes Rook.
Checkmate.
 
2014-05-29 06:12:37 PM

ltdanman44: Data: "A characteristic response to the Kriskoff Gambit is to counter with the El Mitra Exchange, particularly since I have already taken both of your rooks. By missing that opportunity, you have left your king vulnerable."
Troi: "We'll see."
Data: "As you wish, Counselor. Check." [...] "Intriguing. You have devised a completely unanticipated response to a classic attack. You will checkmate my king in seven moves."
Troi: "Data. Chess isn't just a game of ploys and gambits. It's a game of intuition."
Data: "Hmm. You are a challenging opponent, Counselor."

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I always thought this scene was crap.  The smartest robot alive can't figure out what counselor troi is up to??


But, being a robot, he has no emotions. And sometimes that makes him very sad.

/Best Futurama line ever? It's up there.
 
2014-05-29 09:56:19 PM
static.tvtropes.org
 
2014-05-30 11:28:39 AM

ltdanman44: Data: "A characteristic response to the Kriskoff Gambit is to counter with the El Mitra Exchange, particularly since I have already taken both of your rooks. By missing that opportunity, you have left your king vulnerable."
Troi: "We'll see."
Data: "As you wish, Counselor. Check." [...] "Intriguing. You have devised a completely unanticipated response to a classic attack. You will checkmate my king in seven moves."
Troi: "Data. Chess isn't just a game of ploys and gambits. It's a game of intuition."
Data: "Hmm. You are a challenging opponent, Counselor."

[img.fark.net image 258x195]


I always thought this scene was crap.  The smartest robot alive can't figure out what counselor troi is up to??


Computers today can already search far more than seven moves ahead in the endgame.
 
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