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(YouTube)   Got an extra $40,000 laying around? Here's a Rolls-Royce Phantom that needs some TLC. Bonus: Comes with aftermarket Spider Man umbrella   (youtube.com) divider line 29
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2014-05-29 10:44:17 AM  
How poorly built could a Rolls Royce be to get in that kind of shape after 9 years and 95,000 miles?  Missing parts of the suspension?  Engine knocking? I knew they required TLC but you could park a Honda Civic outside for five years and it wouldn't look like that.
 
2014-05-29 11:49:59 AM  

Lsherm: How poorly built could a Rolls Royce be to get in that kind of shape after 9 years and 95,000 miles?  Missing parts of the suspension?  Engine knocking? I knew they required TLC but you could park a Honda Civic outside for five years and it wouldn't look like that.


From what I gathered from the vid it looks like the owner rented it out to various people, so that's probably a huge factor in it running like shiat. Not disagreeing with you as I have no knowledge of car stuffs, but just thinking that might be a pretty big part of it.

Best car advice I ever got from my Dad was, "Don't ever, under any circumstances, loan out your car. When you get it back it won't run the same."
 
2014-05-29 11:51:15 AM  
Heh, no... this thing had to be exceptionally abused.

Rolls-Royce has been making cars for over a hundred years, and over 65% of all the cars they've ever made are still on the road.
 
2014-05-29 11:52:42 AM  
Any car that is abused, neglected and treated like shiat is going to be a piece of shiat in a few years. No matter what it's original cost was. Also depreciation is a factor.
 
2014-05-29 12:01:50 PM  

JesterJoker55: Best car advice I ever got from my Dad was, "Don't ever, under any circumstances, loan out your car. When you get it back it won't run the same."


At least never loan it to Jeremy Clarkson.

http://www.topgear.com/uk/videos/pool-party
 
2014-05-29 12:02:29 PM  

Lsherm: How poorly built could a Rolls Royce be to get in that kind of shape after 9 years and 95,000 miles?  Missing parts of the suspension?  Engine knocking? I knew they required TLC but you could park a Honda Civic outside for five years and it wouldn't look like that.


Livery = taxi service = it was rode hard and not maintained.
 
2014-05-29 12:10:04 PM  
95,000 Vegas miles baby!

*** Caution: Vegas miles equal approximately 2.75 US Miles when calculating degradation. Your mileage may actually vary ***
 
2014-05-29 12:10:35 PM  
Was that Steve Buscemi?
 
2014-05-29 12:13:55 PM  

PIP_the_TROLL: Heh, no... this thing had to be exceptionally abused.

Rolls-Royce has been making cars for over a hundred years, and over 65% of all the cars they've ever made are still on the road.


That's not a hard feat when you only make like 2k cars a year.
 
2014-05-29 01:14:41 PM  

TNel: PIP_the_TROLL: Heh, no... this thing had to be exceptionally abused.

Rolls-Royce has been making cars for over a hundred years, and over 65% of all the cars they've ever made are still on the road.

That's not a hard feat when you only make like 2k cars a year.


Which is interesting because they sold over 3600 cars last year.  That pretty neat how they can sell more than they produce.
 
2014-05-29 01:27:51 PM  
Geek section? Is it because of the Spiderman umbrella?
 
2014-05-29 01:41:45 PM  

gfid: Which is interesting because they sold over 3600 cars last year. That pretty neat how they can sell more than they produce.


Because "like" is a hard line am I right?  Wow 4k cars in a year..... Toyota sales like 10 million a year.  So you are impressed that 65% of luxury high end rare cars are still on the road?
 
2014-05-29 01:45:18 PM  

gfid: TNel: PIP_the_TROLL: Heh, no... this thing had to be exceptionally abused.

Rolls-Royce has been making cars for over a hundred years, and over 65% of all the cars they've ever made are still on the road.

That's not a hard feat when you only make like 2k cars a year.

Which is interesting because they sold over 3600 cars last year.  That pretty neat how they can sell more than they produce.


If they have a year with low sales but more cars produced (to keep the assembly line busy, and keep cars in stock) that is possible.  But given that these are bespoke cars I doubt there are many made in advance to just keep at dealers for customers that wander in to buy off the floor.
 
2014-05-29 01:51:15 PM  

TNel: gfid: Which is interesting because they sold over 3600 cars last year. That pretty neat how they can sell more than they produce.

Because "like" is a hard line am I right?  Wow 4k cars in a year..... Toyota sales like 10 million a year.  So you are impressed that 65% of luxury high end rare cars are still on the road?


It's the ratio that matters, not the total amount. If they made 10 cars a year for a hundred years and had 65% of them still on the road it would be just as impressive.

The accusation implicit in the original poster's rebuke was that Rolls-Royces are badly made and only through extraordinary care are they able to outlast a $18,000 econobox.

I don't believe that's true and the stats support it.
 
2014-05-29 01:54:31 PM  

Lsherm: Missing parts of the suspension?


Self-leveling air suspension.  When they say "missing parts" my guess is that an air hose is ripped somewhere, torn off, or something else is malfunctioning.  It could be repaired to work properly with a few new RR parts, but the prior owner didn't care to do that maintenance.
 
2014-05-29 02:12:58 PM  
That rolls does not.
 
2014-05-29 02:14:27 PM  

PIP_the_TROLL: TNel: gfid: Which is interesting because they sold over 3600 cars last year. That pretty neat how they can sell more than they produce.

Because "like" is a hard line am I right?  Wow 4k cars in a year..... Toyota sales like 10 million a year.  So you are impressed that 65% of luxury high end rare cars are still on the road?

It's the ratio that matters, not the total amount. If they made 10 cars a year for a hundred years and had 65% of them still on the road it would be just as impressive.

The accusation implicit in the original poster's rebuke was that Rolls-Royces are badly made and only through extraordinary care are they able to outlast a $18,000 econobox.

I don't believe that's true and the stats support it.


I don't believe those 65% aren't well maintained.  My point was that here we have an exceptional example of one that wasn't well-maintained and it fell apart pretty substantially, which led me to wonder if it's the legendary RR service that keeps them on the road, or craftsmanship.
 
2014-05-29 02:16:12 PM  

PIP_the_TROLL: It's the ratio that matters, not the total amount. If they made 10 cars a year for a hundred years and had 65% of them still on the road it would be just as impressive.

The accusation implicit in the original poster's rebuke was that Rolls-Royces are badly made and only through extraordinary care are they able to outlast a $18,000 econobox.

I don't believe that's true and the stats support it.


I wouldn't be impressed and you can't use ratios on a super luxury vehicle vs "normal" cars.  When you pay boat loads of money for something and it lasts forever it's not always because it's built better it's more the owners will invest tons more money into it since it's a status symbol than a "normal" car and it is still worth a lot because of the rarity of the vehicle.
 
2014-05-29 02:20:00 PM  
A lot of people can afford to buy a old Rolls Royce.

Not many people can afford to keep it running.
 
2014-05-29 02:24:14 PM  

Lsherm: I don't believe those 65% aren't well maintained. My point was that here we have an exceptional example of one that wasn't well-maintained and it fell apart pretty substantially, which led me to wonder if it's the legendary RR service that keeps them on the road, or craftsmanship.


Fair enough, but the indictment is still an overreach, in my opinion.

The situation as stated and implied in the video suggests that this car wasn't simply neglected, it was actively abused. The scratches and dents and torn up interior is clear evidence of this.

This car didn't 'fall apart', it was 'torn apart'.

This car isn't a Toyota Hilux and nobody expects it to be.
 
2014-05-29 02:40:12 PM  
 
2014-05-29 03:12:09 PM  
What kind of dick-headed scumbag deadbeat ducks car payments for 3 years and then, once the car is totally destroyed, tells the bank to "just come get it"...
After they've been looking for him for 3 damn years???
fark this guy, I hope his credit is ruined beyond repair.
Debtors prison sounds fair for this bastard...too bad they did away with that concept.
 
2014-05-29 03:35:57 PM  
When bought new, it APPEARS to be the top of luxury automobiles. I'm not high enough in the social circle to know anyone that owns one. I've seen one once in a dealership lot, but I couldn't pull off the straight face needed to test drive it and act like you can afford it. I really like the back doors too. As far as durability goes, I've never seen any better than a truck from 1993.
 
2014-05-29 10:36:57 PM  

JesterJoker55: Best car advice I ever got from my Dad was, "Don't ever, under any circumstances, loan out your car. When you get it back it won't run the same."


My dad was the exact opposite, loaning him my first truck is how it died.  So my dad proved your dad right.

mrmopar5287: Lsherm: Missing parts of the suspension?

Self-leveling air suspension.  When they say "missing parts" my guess is that an air hose is ripped somewhere, torn off, or something else is malfunctioning.  It could be repaired to work properly with a few new RR parts, but the prior owner didn't care to do that maintenance.


I have a feeling the prior owner didn't even bother with an oil change, because Jiffy Lube won't touch it.

I had a coworker buy a two year old Lexus for $10k, and had to put a $9k motor in it.  He happened unto a Lexus dealership when a woman was there trying to get Lexus to replace her car simply because it was under warrantee.  The problem was she never changed the oil, and voided the warrantee.  So my coworker bought it and put a new motor in it.  His next problem was constantly getting pulled over in a small southern town, and you can probably guess why.  It was a nice car.
 
2014-05-29 10:50:27 PM  

lack of warmth: I had a coworker buy a two year old Lexus for $10k, and had to put a $9k motor in it.  He happened unto a Lexus dealership when a woman was there trying to get Lexus to replace her car simply because it was under warrantee.  The problem was she never changed the oil, and voided the warrantee.  So my coworker bought it and put a new motor in it.  His next problem was constantly getting pulled over in a small southern town, and you can probably guess why.  It was a nice car.


What year was this?  Recently?  Because otherwise the math doesn't work out at all.
 
2014-05-29 10:58:07 PM  

lack of warmth: I have a feeling the prior owner didn't even bother with an oil change, because Jiffy Lube won't touch it.


How do you know?  It's a BMW V-12 engine under the hood so it takes a standard oil filter available from a lot of parts stores.  When I worked in the oil change business while in college there were a few customers who had rare cars that took an oil filter we didn't stock, but we were always willing to do the change for them if they just bought the filter and had it with them when they came to the shop.
 
2014-05-29 11:00:43 PM  

lack of warmth: I had a coworker buy a two year old Lexus for $10k, and had to put a $9k motor in it.


The second-generation LS is the only Lexus I would take a deal like that.  That was the last of the bulletproof Toyota/Lexus vehicles made.  Do routine maintenance on an immaculate LS from those model years and it will be a vehicle that lasts almost forever.
 
2014-05-30 08:26:23 AM  

mrmopar5287: lack of warmth: I had a coworker buy a two year old Lexus for $10k, and had to put a $9k motor in it.

The second-generation LS is the only Lexus I would take a deal like that.  That was the last of the bulletproof Toyota/Lexus vehicles made.  Do routine maintenance on an immaculate LS from those model years and it will be a vehicle that lasts almost forever.


It was in fact a second generation LS.  It was either 94 or 95 model year, as I met the guy right after he got it out of the shop.  I do not recall how decked out it was with the options, but it was still mint when I saw it.  I haven't seen him or the car in over 10 years, so I don't know what became of it since.

mrmopar5287: lack of warmth: I have a feeling the prior owner didn't even bother with an oil change, because Jiffy Lube won't touch it.

How do you know?  It's a BMW V-12 engine under the hood so it takes a standard oil filter available from a lot of parts stores.  When I worked in the oil change business while in college there were a few customers who had rare cars that took an oil filter we didn't stock, but we were always willing to do the change for them if they just bought the filter and had it with them when they came to the shop.


You took the Jiffy Lube comment seriously, some people are just that lazy when it comes to changing oil they give excuses.
 
2014-05-30 02:50:01 PM  

lack of warmth: You took the Jiffy Lube comment seriously, some people are just that lazy when it comes to changing oil they give excuses.


My wife never changed the oil in her car.... needless to say after a new engine I now am in charge of everything.  I didn't think I had to micromanage her.....
 
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