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(Komo)   Seattle Police officers sue the City of Seattle and the U.S. Department of Justice for their Constitutionally-protected right to beat the living crap out of anyone they want to   (komonews.com ) divider line
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2014-05-28 09:53:55 PM  
FTA:

"More than 100 officers from the Seattle Police Department are suing the city and the Justice Department, claiming their department's new use-of-force policies put them in danger and violate their constitutional rights."

Sounds like some people need to former officers.
 
2014-05-28 11:00:44 PM  
I thought  subby was exaggerating - but no, that's exactly it, in essence.
 
2014-05-28 11:07:30 PM  
I've lived here for over 20 years - Seattle Police and King County Sheriff dept are a bunch of thugs with badges.
 
2014-05-28 11:59:47 PM  

LordZorch: I've lived here for over 20 years - Seattle Police and King County Sheriff dept are a bunch of thugs with badges.


Didn't they just get released from some special DOJ oversight because they were terrible?
 
2014-05-29 12:01:54 AM  
Oh good grief.
 
2014-05-29 12:41:00 AM  
I wish this was an authentic attempt to fight against an oppressive government.  But sadly, subby is probably right.

Even the police are considered the government, they're people. Just like us.
 
2014-05-29 12:42:00 AM  
Even though the police

That's what I meant to start out that third sentence.
 
2014-05-29 12:47:18 AM  
100 police officers just made it very clear they are unfit to wear a badge.
 
2014-05-29 01:32:26 AM  
requires plaintiff to engage in mental gymnastics wholly unreasonable in light of the dangerous and fast evolving circumstances we face every day

Look, we can't be thinking while we're beating the crap out of someone. That's just unconstitutional!
 
2014-05-29 02:07:16 AM  

Generation_D: 100 police officers just made it very clear they are unfit to wear a badge.


this this and more this

BUT we always BEAT THEM when we arrest them. Was that WRONG?
FARK THAT!!@#!~!@#

/this is what happens when they are not charge with assault.
/excessive force ? fark that shiat. CHARGE THEM WITH ASSAULT ... ooops ... does that mean that I lose my job, maybe I should stop. farking asshats
 
2014-05-29 03:30:23 AM  
Fire all of them and replace them with cops who will obey the law.
 
2014-05-29 03:59:18 AM  
You know what would solve this, constantly on video cameras. Then a third party could decide on whether the beating was justified.
 
2014-05-29 05:15:34 AM  
Kirkland police are pretty nice. The worst they do is save space in the line at Starbucks so you'll be behind one of them and suddenly 6 more show up and cut in front of you.

Redmond police are greedy bastards who will ticket you for looking at them wrong.

Issaquah police are very much like Redmond police, but a bit less uptight.

Woodinville police are nowhere to be seen. They just don't have a lot of crime up in that area.
 
2014-05-29 05:18:46 AM  

JerkyMeat: Fire all of them and replace them with cops who will obey the law.


When their own union doesn't support the lawsuit, it suggests that the facts of the case may not be on their side.
 
2014-05-29 05:20:33 AM  

JerkyMeat: Fire all of them and replace them with cops who will obey the law.


the easter bunny, santa claus, a regular cop, and a cop who obeys the law are all racing to pick up a hundred dollar bill off the street. who gets there first?
 
2014-05-29 05:24:08 AM  
Interesting that the union is not openly supporting them.
 
2014-05-29 05:27:32 AM  
That was a day cop trifecta
 
2014-05-29 05:29:00 AM  

neuroflare: That was a day cop trifecta


Fast, not day.
/phone farking
 
2014-05-29 05:29:45 AM  
Ron Smith, president of the Seattle Police Officer's Guild, said the union does not support the lawsuit.

"We're not going to accomplish anything suing the federal government, suing the mayor of Seattle, suing the police chief -- that's not the way to handle it. The way to handle is a collaborative process," he said.



when your union tells you to fark off, you done goofed.
 
2014-05-29 05:33:28 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: Kirkland police are pretty nice. The worst they do is save space in the line at Starbucks so you'll be behind one of them and suddenly 6 more show up and cut in front of you.

Redmond police are greedy bastards who will ticket you for looking at them wrong.

Issaquah police are very much like Redmond police, but a bit less uptight.

Woodinville police are nowhere to be seen. They just don't have a lot of crime up in that area.


"Save space in line"

I'm not quite sure why, but the idea of a cop doing that absolutely fills me with rage. I can understand a cop who has been cock-punched one too many times giving a preemptive beatdown. That is a human response that must be addressed. But the moral corruption necessary for that line trick? I find that an insidious abuse of power. I don't know. It just seems more leech like. The cop is warping a civilized convention of order and they are supposed to be about order. So twisted when you think about it.
 
2014-05-29 05:50:41 AM  
FTA: They also want to be awarded damages for lost time and wages and punitive damages for the "ungrounded maligning of the good work of SPD's patrol officers."

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2014-05-29 05:51:26 AM  
In other news, the Seattle police department "misplaced" tens of thousands of dashcam videos over three years.
 
2014-05-29 05:58:47 AM  
FTA: "... in violation of the Second, Fourth, Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments of the Constitution.""

1) I'd love to hear the reasoning behind everyone of those violated amendments.

2) A taste of their own medicine should do them good.
 
2014-05-29 05:58:52 AM  

EvilEgg: You know what would solve this, constantly on video cameras. Then a third party could decide on whether the beating was justified.


In Rialto, CA the police chief installed "body cameras" on one-half of all patrol officer and ordered that every civilian interaction be recorded.  In the first 12 months of the program, use of force incidents was reduced by 60% and public complaints against police for being over aggressive, using force, etc. dropped by 88%.  The PO's who were not wearing cameras were more than twice as likely to be involved in a use of force incident than those who weren't and were far more likely to be the subject of a civilian complaint.

Yep, I think it's high time that body cameras were part of the program.  It's actually safer for the police and civilians as the civilians likewise often know that they are on camera.
 
2014-05-29 06:02:36 AM  
These cops are dangerous to society.
 
2014-05-29 06:25:02 AM  

So far today there are three Seattle threads. 2 involving police complaining about stuff. And 1 involving a person giving away weed. And its only 330am here.

Seattle, you are doing it right!

/I love this town

 
2014-05-29 06:30:30 AM  
The Seattle Police Department: To Protect and Serve Dead or Alive You're Coming With Me!
 
2014-05-29 06:32:18 AM  
I don't think there is a big enough pineapple to fark these guys with.
 
2014-05-29 06:56:13 AM  
When you put on that badge, you forfeit your constitutional rights.
 
2014-05-29 07:01:35 AM  
Roast in hell pigs
 
2014-05-29 07:03:04 AM  
So why don't the Seattle Police just beat up the DoJ?
 
2014-05-29 07:03:53 AM  

jso2897: JerkyMeat: Fire all of them and replace them with cops who will obey the law.

When their own union doesn't support the lawsuit, it suggests that the facts  of the case Democrats may not be on their side.


FTFY.
 
2014-05-29 07:14:13 AM  

tbeatty: jso2897: JerkyMeat: Fire all of them and replace them with cops who will obey the law.

When their own union doesn't support the lawsuit, it suggests that the facts  of the case Democrats may not be on their side.

FTFY.


You might be surprised how many union cops are not democrats. And cop unions, which are a different thing.
 
2014-05-29 07:16:27 AM  
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2014-05-29 07:22:16 AM  

tbeatty: jso2897: JerkyMeat: Fire all of them and replace them with cops who will obey the law.

When their own union doesn't support the lawsuit, it suggests that the facts  of the case Democrats may not be on their side.

FTFY.


When Scott Walker went on his union rampage in Wisconsin, what unions were spared?

When you look at soem of the very red states that make teachers unions illegal, how many of them have police unions?
 
2014-05-29 07:22:25 AM  

jso2897: JerkyMeat: Fire all of them and replace them with cops who will obey the law.

When their own union doesn't support the lawsuit, it suggests that the facts of the case may not be on their side.


Or that the union as a whole isn't dumb enough to think that anyone, even LEOs, has a constitutional right to infringe the constitutional rights of others.
I would, however, love to see how the 100 officers would describe the specifics of each Amendment (the 2nd, 4th, 5th, and 14th) that they are claiming is being violated.
2nd - Are they told not to bear arms, or just told not to shoot anyone that flinches while being beaten?
4th -  I'm sure public school teachers would love to hear how oversight of a public sector job is "unreasonable/warrantless search".
5th - I'm curious if it's facing legal penalty after getting chewed out by their boss that they constitute as double jeopardy, or if the fact that their actions while upholding the law are not longer blindly accepted means that they feel that they are being compelled to incriminate themselves by now having to break the law to do as they were.
14 - Are they honestly claiming that the state doesn't have the authority to limit their  (nor the feds apparently) use-of-force?

The irony of this entire ordeal is that the SPD was found to routinely use more force than they should, and now they claim they are not being able to use enough force as they need to... I'm pretty sure having a badge doesn't make you the only authority on how much force is just right.
 
2014-05-29 07:26:07 AM  
That killing of the Native American woodcarver is still pissing me off.....

/ I've got no respect for the Seattle police after that incident...
 
2014-05-29 07:27:18 AM  
They also want to be awarded damages for lost time and wages and punitive damages for the "ungrounded maligning of the good work of SPD's patrol officers."


*mind blown*
 
2014-05-29 07:29:18 AM  
Body cameras on all officers, at all times. 3 directional cameras in each patrol car, and videos collected in such a way as to prevent tampering.

It's the only to control the biggest threat to peace and freedom we have in America: the farking worthless pigs.

Time to talk about my cop destroying super pac idea again. Thru fundraising, bribes, and lobbying we will lobby to enact legislation to:

Have all cops under video surveillance at all times.
Ensure that the "thin blue line" cops protect cops who are criminals bs dies on the vine.
Ensure that cops are subject to the same legal system that everyone else is, not above it.
We lobby to crush their pay and benefits, because fark you. Chowing donuts and shooting unarmed people isn't "putting your life on the line"
We lobby to officially destroy the concept of jack booted "law enforcement" and put back into place "to protect and serve". Police are peace officers whose purpose is to keep the peace and help people in trouble, not to coerce obeissance.
We lobby to crush the militarization of PD's. No, you don't get to play with hummers, UAV's, drones, rocket launchers, attack helicopters and fighter jets. Not yours. You get a billy club and a flashlight and a revolver and a tazer and some pepper spray. If you can't manage to keep the peace with that, you suck and should be fired, period.

Baconpac: rendering the fat out fhe U.S. police forces.
 
2014-05-29 07:32:48 AM  

liam76: When Scott Walker went on his union rampage in Wisconsin, what unions were spared?


Just a FYI, he also spared the firefighters union.  He spared the two unions that supported him and savaged those that didn't.
 
2014-05-29 07:35:39 AM  
fark the police.
 
2014-05-29 07:38:49 AM  

Bslim: They also want to be awarded damages for lost time and wages and punitive damages for the "ungrounded maligning of the good work of SPD's patrol officers."


*mind blown*


For real. It makes ME want to malign the work of the SPD, and I live 3000 miles away from Seattle.


ahem** they are all boogers. And their work is substandard.
 
2014-05-29 07:47:24 AM  
In 2012 Seattle officials agreed to an independent monitor and court oversight of the city's police department as part of a deal with the Justice Department following a report that found officers routinely used excessive force.
 

So there should be ample evidence to support their case, right?  Right?  Let's see it.
 
2014-05-29 07:48:18 AM  

neongoats: Body cameras on all officers, at all times. 3 directional cameras in each patrol car, and videos collected in such a way as to prevent tampering.

It's the only to control the biggest threat to peace and freedom we have in America: the farking worthless pigs.


Time to talk about my cop destroying super pac idea again. Thru fundraising, bribes, and lobbying we will lobby to enact legislation to:


Have all cops under video surveillance at all times.

Ensure that the "thin blue line" cops protect cops who are criminals bs dies on the vine.

Ensure that cops are subject to the same legal system that everyone else is, not above it.

We lobby to crush their pay and benefits, because fark you. Chowing donuts and shooting unarmed people isn't "putting your life on the line"

We lobby to officially destroy the concept of jack booted "law enforcement" and put back into place "to protect and serve". Police are peace officers whose purpose is to keep the peace and help people in trouble, not to coerce obeissance.

We lobby to crush the militarization of PD's. No, you don't get to play with hummers, UAV's, drones, rocket launchers, attack helicopters and fighter jets. Not yours. You get a billy club and a flashlight and a revolver and a tazer and some pepper spray. If you can't manage to keep the peace with that, you suck and should be fired, period.


Baconpac: rendering the fat out fhe U.S. police forces.


Citation needed( although I'm sure some power-hungry police chief somewhere actually wants that military stuff)


/ and I think police doing actual police work deserve to be well-paid

// since criminals out there are occasionally really well armed, the police do need enough firepower to take them down..( eg.The 1997 North Hollywood shootout

// agree with everything else you posted...

 
2014-05-29 07:53:17 AM  

Zeb Hesselgresser: In 2012 Seattle officials agreed to an independent monitor and court oversight of the city's police department as part of a deal with the Justice Department following a report that found officers routinely used excessive force.
 

So there should be ample evidence to support their case, right?  Right?  Let's see it.


I'm sure the officials agreed to the oversight because there was absolutely no evidence of wrongdoing.
 
2014-05-29 07:57:31 AM  
in some places it is overly complicated and contradictory, in other places overly precise and mechanical, but throughout, requires plaintiff to engage in mental gymnastics wholly unreasonable in light of the dangerous and fast evolving circumstances we face every day

www.naderlibrary.com

AverageAmericanGuy: Kirkland police are pretty nice.


Plus they're cheaper than the other brands of cops at Costco, as long as you're willing to buy them by the case...
 
2014-05-29 07:59:51 AM  

tbeatty: jso2897: JerkyMeat: Fire all of them and replace them with cops who will obey the law.

When their own union doesn't support the lawsuit, it suggests that the facts  of the case Democrats may not be on their side.

FTFY.


If you want to post mind numbingly stupid things, please do so on your own time and energy, and don't involve me.
 
2014-05-29 08:02:32 AM  
Oh so they have to think before they shoot, damn do these legislators have any idea of the average IQ of the people they employ in law enforcement?

Difficult = tazed.

Slightly scarey (or especially difficult) = dead.

We do not pay these people ($100k a year) to think!
 
2014-05-29 08:10:21 AM  

Forbidden Doughnut: That killing of the Native American woodcarver is still pissing me off.....

/ I've got no respect for the Seattle police after that incident...


Yeah that was farked up. I have little doubt the same cops were part of the 100 mentioned.
 
2014-05-29 08:10:43 AM  

Forbidden Doughnut: Citation needed( although I'm sure some power-hungry police chief somewhere actually wants that military stuff)


I don't know about the rocket launchers and jet fighters but as for attack helicopters, but for some reason the military and police are conducting exercises involving helicopters firing blanks at the general public:

Video of an incident in Florida.
Article about a similar incident in Texas.
 
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