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(BBC-US)   Valve delays Steam Machine controller to 2015, or ten years before HL2: Ep3 comes out   (bbc.com) divider line 28
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2014-05-29 07:38:01 AM  
Hahahahahaha... Subby thinks Valve can count to 3?!?!?!! That's hilarious! :D
 
2014-05-29 08:13:15 AM  
Huh, you figure with all that money they are making renting DRM heavy games they could have got this done by now.
 
2014-05-29 08:23:56 AM  
Valve seems to be running out of cake.
 
2014-05-29 09:02:08 AM  
Valve doesn't need to release things on time, as long as they can sell people hats in TF, and take a cut from all the crap coming out on Greenlight.
 
2014-05-29 09:31:32 AM  
i.imgur.com
 
2014-05-29 09:38:29 AM  
Is it just me or do a lot more games on Steam these days seem to require third party accounts and extra DRM? I've never had anything but problems with games through Steam that require that sort of thing, so now I just skip over them. I haven't bought anything from steam in months as a result.
 
2014-05-29 10:04:43 AM  

skozlaw: Is it just me or do a lot more games on Steam these days seem to require third party accounts and extra DRM? I've never had anything but problems with games through Steam that require that sort of thing, so now I just skip over them. I haven't bought anything from steam in months as a result.


It seems to be baked into a lot of Ubisoft/EA type games, and I do tend to avoid those, but most of the new stuff on Steam the last few months that I have been buying have been more indie-type games, as the big publishers seem to largely go into hibernation the first 6 months of the year for whatever reason anyway.
 
2014-05-29 10:05:36 AM  

skozlaw: Is it just me or do a lot more games on Steam these days seem to require third party accounts and extra DRM?


Consider shopping on steam to be shopping at wal-mart. Some games you buy will have third party bullshiat. As long as you do a bit of research you'll know what to avoid - like Games for windows live plague.

Overall, I've got maybe 10 games of 120 on steam that have some third party stuff. And only half of those can really be considered a problem / annoyance.
 
2014-05-29 10:06:44 AM  
steam controller going to come out at the same time as the dogfighting module
 
2014-05-29 10:10:07 AM  

Tyrone Slothrop: Valve doesn't need to release things on time, as long as they can sell people hats in TF, and take a cut from all the crap coming out on Greenlight.


shiat, look it how much farking money they're getting from people buying skins in Counter-strike.
 
2014-05-29 10:26:59 AM  
HL2.2 wrote themselves into a bit of a corner. Then everyone moved to other projects. An HL2.3 would be iffy because you'd be counting on everyone keeping up.

They can go straight to an HL3 boot. Something a century past all the crap in HL2.
 
2014-05-29 10:35:34 AM  

skozlaw: Is it just me or do a lot more games on Steam these days seem to require third party accounts and extra DRM? I've never had anything but problems with games through Steam that require that sort of thing, so now I just skip over them. I haven't bought anything from steam in months as a result.


To be fair, I think that is more the fault of the publishers than Valve. More and more companies want people constantly linked to their own network do they can nickel and dime people with dlc and micro transactions.

The worst part is that it is a highly successful business model so it's just going get worse.
 
2014-05-29 10:38:29 AM  

skozlaw: Is it just me or do a lot more games on Steam these days seem to require third party accounts and extra DRM? I've never had anything but problems with games through Steam that require that sort of thing, so now I just skip over them. I haven't bought anything from steam in months as a result.


this is largely true across all platforms unfortunately

if Ubisoft could put uplay on the consoles, they would
 
2014-05-29 10:39:11 AM  

Tax Boy: [i.imgur.com image 535x800]


It was nice knowing you, Mr. Freeman.
 
2014-05-29 10:54:46 AM  
As long as HL3 isn't an MMO, I can wait
 
2014-05-29 10:55:55 AM  

Tyrone Slothrop: Valve doesn't need to release things on time, as long as they can sell people hats in TF, and take a cut from all the crap coming out on Greenlight.


Valve has basically never released anything on time.  Now, it is possible to take "when it's done" to such an extreme that technology and the world in general passes you by (Duke Nukem Forever for instance), but typically the lack of a firm deadline results in a higher quality product.  This is why movie tie-in games tend to suck, for instance, because they typically have a very firm deadline of needing to be released when the movie comes out.

Now, one of the reasons they are able to do this is because of hats and Steam in general, of course.
 
2014-05-29 10:57:34 AM  

wildcardjack: HL2.2 wrote themselves into a bit of a corner. Then everyone moved to other projects. An HL2.3 would be iffy because you'd be counting on everyone keeping up.

They can go straight to an HL3 boot. Something a century past all the crap in HL2.


They really can't do that, since Half Life 2: Episode 2 ended in a cliff hanger.  I suspect Half Life 3 will start immediately after HL2:E2 but be much longer than the previous two episodes.
 
2014-05-29 11:04:44 AM  

Vodka Remm: skozlaw: Is it just me or do a lot more games on Steam these days seem to require third party accounts and extra DRM?

Consider shopping on steam to be shopping at wal-mart. Some games you buy will have third party bullshiat. As long as you do a bit of research you'll know what to avoid - like Games for windows live plague.

Overall, I've got maybe 10 games of 120 on steam that have some third party stuff. And only half of those can really be considered a problem / annoyance.


Just FYI Microsoft closed GFWL. But your point stands for other "services".
 
2014-05-29 11:08:02 AM  

wildcardjack: HL2.2 wrote themselves into a bit of a corner. Then everyone moved to other projects. An HL2.3 would be iffy because you'd be counting on everyone keeping up.

They can go straight to an HL3 boot. Something a century past all the crap in HL2.


Yeah, they're going to have a tough time getting the same voice actor for Gordan Freeman at this point.
 
2014-05-29 11:08:17 AM  

skozlaw: Is it just me or do a lot more games on Steam these days seem to require third party accounts and extra DRM? I've never had anything but problems with games through Steam that require that sort of thing, so now I just skip over them. I haven't bought anything from steam in months as a result.


The only ones I've encountered are Ubisoft's UPlay and EA's Origin DRM and yes I avoid those (though Ubisoft's stuff is pretty entertaining, I've made exceptions for a few titles now that they've backed off from their 'always online' bullshiat).  What I find is actually the reverse, its often I'll go to somewhere like GamersGate and see that you're basically just buying a Steam key from them.  I don't mind those since it lets me buy from not-steam and get steam's advantages.

/little miffed still about a recent first attempt at a refund for the absolutely horrible X:  Rebirth and getting stone walled by Steam over the course of a month and a half of very slow responses from their asshole on support.
//The stiff refund policy is the only thing I dislike about Steam and you can't really find any better except maybe Amazon in the states.
 
2014-05-29 11:09:43 AM  

skozlaw: Is it just me or do a lot more games on Steam these days seem to require third party accounts and extra DRM? I've never had anything but problems with games through Steam that require that sort of thing, so now I just skip over them. I haven't bought anything from steam in months as a result.


There are two types of games on Steam:

1. Those that require Steam and are deeply integrated into it, with Steam Cloud save game storage, Steam Achievements, Steam multiplayer matchmaking, etc.  Examples include anything by Valve itself, the Call of Duty series, Borderlands 2, Skyrim, Saint's Row 3 and 4, and most indie games.

2. Those that use Steam as merely another store.  Examples include anything by EA (although EA has basically stopped releasing new games on Steam) or Ubisoft.  These games may (or may not) have additional DRM, CD Keys, separate multiplayer matchmaking services, etc.

It's very rare for games in group #1 to have non-Steam DRM.  So, if a game has Steam Achievements or the retail version requires Steam to function, chances are the only DRM required is Steam itself.
 
2014-05-29 11:21:22 AM  
Gamers. Phfffft.
If all your games were as good as Skyrim and Red Dead Whatever combined, cost ten dollars apiece, and were delivered to your front door by Scarlett Johanson, nude on her knees, you would biatch.
And buy the games anyway.
And then biatch some more.
 
2014-05-29 11:23:21 AM  
Dollars to donuts they're lining it up to coincide with the Oculus CV1 launch.
 
2014-05-29 01:32:20 PM  

jso2897: Gamers People. Phfffft.
If all your games goods were as good as Skyrim and Red Dead Whatever combined, cost ten dollars apiece, and were delivered to your front door by Scarlett Johanson, nude on her knees, you would biatch.
And buy the games goods anyway.
And then biatch some more.


FTFY.
 
2014-05-29 01:50:17 PM  

Geotpf: skozlaw: Is it just me or do a lot more games on Steam these days seem to require third party accounts and extra DRM? I've never had anything but problems with games through Steam that require that sort of thing, so now I just skip over them. I haven't bought anything from steam in months as a result.

There are two types of games on Steam:

1. Those that require Steam and are deeply integrated into it, with Steam Cloud save game storage, Steam Achievements, Steam multiplayer matchmaking, etc.  Examples include anything by Valve itself, the Call of Duty series, Borderlands 2, Skyrim, Saint's Row 3 and 4, and most indie games.

2. Those that use Steam as merely another store.  Examples include anything by EA (although EA has basically stopped releasing new games on Steam) or Ubisoft.  These games may (or may not) have additional DRM, CD Keys, separate multiplayer matchmaking services, etc.

It's very rare for games in group #1 to have non-Steam DRM.  So, if a game has Steam Achievements or the retail version requires Steam to function, chances are the only DRM required is Steam itself.


The only time I've seen an exception with #1 is when the game uses a different matchmaking service (which is also what uplay is used for in a lot of games that include it.)

Good examples are Age of Wonders 3 (where the account system exists to let gog and steam players play together) and most ot the GFWL titles still around.
 
2014-05-29 03:15:58 PM  

Tax Boy: [i.imgur.com image 535x800]


OH FARK OFF!
 
2014-05-29 05:48:54 PM  

jso2897: Gamers. Phfffft.
If all your games were as good as Skyrim and Red Dead Whatever combined, cost ten dollars apiece, and were delivered to your front door by Scarlett Johanson, nude on her knees, you would biatch.
And buy the games anyway.
And then biatch some more.


Well yeah, it is kinda farked up to have Ms. Johanson in 50 degree weather naked.  She should have waited to get naked when she came in the door.
 
2014-05-30 11:22:32 AM  

moike: Dollars to donuts they're lining it up to coincide with the Oculus CV1 launch.


I was thinking the same thing. They're waiting for some new technology to feature in the game, like the physics gun in HL2.  Either that or they are saving it for the Steambox launch.

 If you want more Half Life, the new Wolfenstein game is pretty much HL2 with Nazis.
 
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