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(The Motley Fool)   Nintendo's Wii U abandoned by third-party game developers, meaning not only will it soon become Nintendo's worst-selling console, but the worst-selling console ever made   (fool.com) divider line 117
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2014-05-28 09:50:35 AM  
 
2014-05-28 11:49:03 AM  

RedPhoenix122: Oh really?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari_Jaguar


upload.wikimedia.org
 
2014-05-28 11:49:25 AM  
Seriously, that claim doesn't even stand up to basic logic.
 
2014-05-28 11:49:35 AM  

RedPhoenix122: Oh really?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari_Jaguar


You can't bring hard numbers into a slanderous statement.
 
2014-05-28 11:50:36 AM  
Now that is just a lazy-ass troll headline. Wrong on every point.

//Not a Nintendo fan, but come on Subs
 
2014-05-28 11:55:00 AM  

Obbi: Now that is just a lazy-ass troll headline. Wrong on every point.

//Not a Nintendo fan, but come on Subs


So is your mother!
 
2014-05-28 11:55:25 AM  

RedPhoenix122: Oh really?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari_Jaguar


that  wont even be true for Nintendo

nintendoenthusiast.com
 
2014-05-28 11:55:27 AM  
do handhelds count

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gizmondo
 
2014-05-28 11:55:37 AM  

Obbi: Now that is just a lazy-ass troll headline. Wrong on every point.

//Not a Nintendo fan, but come on Subs


Actually, they toned it down a bit. The original headline was:

Nintendo's Wii U abandoned by third-party game developers, meaning not only will it soon become Nintendo's worst-selling console, but the worst-selling console ever made. And go fark yourself
 
2014-05-28 11:57:34 AM  
I never realized that the only two third party publishers in existence are EA in Ubisoft.

/not saying that Nintendo is screwed, but that was one farking lousy article
 
2014-05-28 12:05:27 PM  
Even if the headline was 100% accurate -- Nintendo makes its own Zelda games, so I don't give a frosty crank if there's 3rd-party development for their hardware or not.

  ▲
▲ ▲

When the Wii U Zelda game comes out:

31.media.tumblr.com
 
2014-05-28 12:05:55 PM  
Not getting much use out of my Infinium Phantom Gaming Console
 
2014-05-28 12:06:44 PM  
Articfle is FREE.... if I give my email.

fark that site and fark you subby.
 
2014-05-28 12:08:51 PM  
I guess the fail headline is a botched version of:

Nintendo's ill-fated console is overtaken by the Xbox One, making it the worst-selling console of the current generation, and if trends hold, Nintendo's worst-selling console of all time.
 
2014-05-28 12:13:39 PM  
Because Nintendo is known for its deep well of third party IP?

/hint subby: it's well known for its deep well of first party IP
 
2014-05-28 12:18:21 PM  
It's the stupid touch-screen. It's not that useful and makes the console FAR more expensive than it should be.

Plus, even though everyone bought a Wii, most people felt a little burned by it. There simply weren't many good games for it.

Nintendo could still come back with the next generation, but they will need to change their ways pretty drastically. They need to court 3rd party developers like CRAZY, and they need to drop the gimmicks. Plus, they need to completely revamp the online experience. They are in some kind of weird denial about online gaming.
 
2014-05-28 12:18:32 PM  

Perlin Noise: RedPhoenix122: Oh really?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari_Jaguar

that  wont even be true for Nintendo

[nintendoenthusiast.com image 538x337]


as terrible as it was.... I thought Virtual Boy was awesome when I was a kid... also Teleroboxer was awesome.
 
2014-05-28 12:19:01 PM  

Perlin Noise: RedPhoenix122: Oh really?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari_Jaguar

that  wont even be true for Nintendo

[nintendoenthusiast.com image 538x337]


I thought about bringing that up, but I figured someone might want to pull out some "That's not an actual console" BS, so I went nuclear with the console that got turned into a dental appliance.

On a side note, I own a Wii U and am looking forward to Mario Kart on Friday!
 
2014-05-28 12:21:07 PM  
Not surprised that third parties would not want to do the Wii U.  I mean, developing games with a unique platform is hard.

\some of the better games for the system use the Gamepad wonderfully
 
2014-05-28 12:22:28 PM  
I had a WiiU until a few weeks ago.

I decided I just didn't want it anymore. Having a console sit there not getting use makes me nervous. I feel like I'm obligated to be playing it, and the WiiU was just mocking me.

I figured, "You know what?" I'm done with this thing. I'm not even going to hang on for it to get a Zelda (the Wind Waker remake doesn't count; don't even try to say it does).

A guy at work offered me 230 bucks for the system and the two games I had (Mario 3D World and Wonderful 101). I sold it, and put the proceeds toward getting a PS4 (yeah, yeah -- I could have gotten more than 230 bucks if I'd only sold it on EBay...BERR HURR, I don't care).

Hey, I love Nintendo, and wish them luck with this system, but it was a full blown dud for me. At least I like the 3DS a lot.
 
2014-05-28 12:23:03 PM  

Nine Hundred and Eight: Perlin Noise: RedPhoenix122: Oh really?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari_Jaguar

that  wont even be true for Nintendo

[nintendoenthusiast.com image 538x337]

as terrible as it was.... I thought Virtual Boy was awesome when I was a kid... also Teleroboxer was awesome.


I have Teleroboxer, RedAlarm, Galactic Pinball, and of course Mario's Tennis.  I wonder if they can be ported to the 3DS.
 
2014-05-28 12:29:41 PM  

doczoidberg: I decided I just didn't want it anymore. Having a console sit there not getting use makes me nervous.


You may have a psychological issue.  An inanimate object shouldn't have that affect on a person.

Anyway, I recall reading this about Ubisoft a while ago so this shouldn't be a surprise and seems like rather late reporting.
 
2014-05-28 12:30:27 PM  
With little third-party support, Nintendo's Wii U is rapidly becoming a box good for nothing other than playing Nintendo-made games.

That's what I own it for.  Nintendo is going to be Nintendo.  This is their greatest strength and weakness at the same time.  Lets keep touting Nintendo is doomed while Sony just lost over $1,000,000,000 last year.

/own a Wiiu, 3DS, PS4, Xbone, and a alright PC.
//Not a Vita. i'm not that stupid.
//I/m so, so alone.
 
2014-05-28 12:35:58 PM  

Optimal_Illusion: Nine Hundred and Eight: Perlin Noise: RedPhoenix122: Oh really?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari_Jaguar

that  wont even be true for Nintendo

[nintendoenthusiast.com image 538x337]

as terrible as it was.... I thought Virtual Boy was awesome when I was a kid... also Teleroboxer was awesome.

I have Teleroboxer, RedAlarm, Galactic Pinball, and of course Mario's Tennis.  I wonder if they can be ported to the 3DS.


I still have my Virtual Boy and like to drag it out from time to time (especially once I managed to find a Power Tap so I didn't go broke buying batteries). The Virtual Boy Wario Land is one of the best games of the series. I also spent way too much time with the likes of Mario Clash and Panic Bomber.
 
2014-05-28 12:36:46 PM  
Would it be possible to perma ban both the submitter and admin who greenlit this?

Did that article (which was completely useless) really just ask me for an email address to continue reading?
 
2014-05-28 12:39:25 PM  
When they released the Wii U and stopped supporting Monster Hunter online, I knew they'd do the same to the Wii U eventually. Not going to get burned again.
 
2014-05-28 12:39:53 PM  

Summoner101: Because Nintendo is known for its deep well of third party IP?

/hint subby: it's well known for its deep well of first party IP


Their primary problem is that they have barely been dipping into that well of first party IP.   They should have had a major title in each of their IPs out in the first 6-9 months to sell consoles in order to get the 3rd party developers to stick around.
 
2014-05-28 12:47:39 PM  
I still have my Virtual Boy. I have Teleroboxer, Mario Tennis, and Red Alarm. Teleroboxer is great and Mario Tennis is pretty good. I thought that the console had potential but apparently not enough other people did.

realmolo: Nintendo could still come back with the next generation, but they will need to change their ways pretty drastically. They need to court 3rd party developers like CRAZY, and they need to drop the gimmicks. Plus, they need to completely revamp the online experience. They are in some kind of weird denial about online gaming.


This.

The gimmicks are fine on smaller, cheaper, handheld systems. But I want my console to be a console. I'm still annoyed way back when someone from Nintendo said that for the Wii they wanted a controller that "Someone's mother wouldn't be afraid of". Fark someone else's mother. Sell the console to me. That's why the damned controller looks like a TV remote. They didn't want to spook old people. Instead of trying to get the people who will buy a console, a game or two, and maybe an extra controller once, try for people like me who will buy the console, multiple peripherals, and several games a year. In the process of trying to appeal to a broader customer base they alienated their existing base.

I gave up on trying to play the Wii online. It's really farking slow and jittery. And the friend code based system is really annoying. I get it. It sounds good to housewifes and makes them feel secure about letting their kids play online. But stop it. People wont play online since the service is just that terrible.

I have a gaming PC now. I might upgrade it soon with a better video card and cooling to OC the processor. I'll get a Wii U eventually for the first party games. But I'll probably sit out most of this generation for the consoles. I had a 360 and a Wii last gen and this last Black Friday I finally bought a PS3.

Can't wait for the Steam Summer Sale.

Games look so much better on the PC and I have a wireless 360 controller for it when I'd rather use a gamepad. Plus the indie scene is much larger on the PC.
 
2014-05-28 12:50:45 PM  
By this stage the WiiU is likely to be a flop of historic proportions for Nintendo. They have blown their two big advantages by not getting any system seller games out prior to the lauch of the Xbone and PS4 and failed to generate any casual interest like was done with the Wii (in no small part because people couldn't see it as a separate item).

It won't kill the company (one flop won't do the job even without the handhelds propping them up, although the buckets ofbad publicity lately with Tamadochi Life and the Youtube stuff certainly aren't helping) but unless some miracle happens, this generation isn't ending well for Nintendo. And a second or third flop could end their home console position (or at least limit it primarily to Japan).
 
2014-05-28 12:52:12 PM  

Nine Hundred and Eight: as terrible as it was.... I thought Virtual Boy was awesome when I was a kid... also Teleroboxer was awesome.


For the record, I love Virtual Boy ...I really wish I had one...
 
2014-05-28 12:52:33 PM  

whizbangthedirtfarmer: Not surprised that third parties would not want to do the Wii U.  I mean, developing games with a unique platform is hard.


Actually a lot of third party developers bailed on the Wii U before it was even released simply because Nintendo didn't involve them during the consoles development phase.  Sony and Microsoft went to major developers with their specs and outlines of how they were planning on making everything work, Nintendo just said "Here's our product, make something for it".  The tablet and motion control aren't the problem, it's the fact that Nintendo didn't involve third parties from the beginning and they have no interest in starting from square one when they have been building for the PS4 and XB1 for at least two years now.
 
2014-05-28 12:54:40 PM  

Rising_Zan_Samurai_Gunman: Their primary problem is that they have barely been dipping into that well of first party IP.


This was one of the biggest complaints about it, and one of my reasons I never bought one. Not a single original Metroid or Zelda game has been released yet, and as much as I would love to play WindWaker in HD, it doesn't justify the cost of a new console.
 
2014-05-28 12:55:17 PM  
Let's just say it.

Nintendo needs to pull a Sega, cut the goddamn console out, and just be a third party publisher.

Keep pumping out gameboys if they must, but just cut it the fark out, Nintendo.  Yeah, the Wii was a "hit".  A console that sells no games however is a bust.  Motion controls are done.  Smell the glove and just go multiplat with Smash Bro's.

And let's call a spade a spade.  We have wanted a REAL console Pokemon game since...  oh, what, 2000?  Nintendo doesn't listen.  Maybe with the WiiU albatross around their neck, they can listen.

Who am I kidding.
 
2014-05-28 12:59:12 PM  

xria: I guess the fail headline is a botched version of:

Nintendo's ill-fated console is overtaken by the Xbox One, making it the worst-selling console of the current generation, and if trends hold, Nintendo's worst-selling console of all time.


Or forgetting that any consoles not made by Nintendo, SEGA, Sony, or Microsoft existed.
 
2014-05-28 01:01:18 PM  
Yeah, not too broken up if Nintendo doesn't get huge third party support. The Wii had lots of third party support...it's just that the third parties just dumped shovelware onto it, or half-assed ports. Good games for the Wii were about as rare as games for the Wii U are now.  Nintendo is sitting on enough money from the Wii and the handheld platforms to weather a flop. And with Mario Kart and Smash Bros. on the way, sales are gonna improve some; I know I'm getting one specifically for those, and I'll get at least a few others as time goes on.

Nintendo's strength is in exclusives. I can get most, if not all, of the games that interest me on the Xbox and PS4 on my PC, and neither of them have enough console-exclusives that would justify the price.
 
2014-05-28 01:02:41 PM  
If they'd launch a Pokemon MMORPG, my fiancee'd be on that like stink on shiat. Like white on rice. Like Michael Jackson on a little boy.
 
2014-05-28 01:03:35 PM  

Optimal_Illusion: Nine Hundred and Eight: Perlin Noise: RedPhoenix122: Oh really?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari_Jaguar

that  wont even be true for Nintendo

[nintendoenthusiast.com image 538x337]

as terrible as it was.... I thought Virtual Boy was awesome when I was a kid... also Teleroboxer was awesome.

I have Teleroboxer, RedAlarm, Galactic Pinball, and of course Mario's Tennis.  I wonder if they can be ported to the 3DS.


I had Mario tennis, Warioland, and Mario clash.  I'd love to see 3ds remakes of them, would be fun.

dywed88: By this stage the WiiU is likely to be a flop of historic proportions for Nintendo. They have blown their two big advantages by not getting any system seller games out prior to the lauch of the Xbone and PS4 and failed to generate any casual interest like was done with the Wii (in no small part because people couldn't see it as a separate item).

It won't kill the company (one flop won't do the job even without the handhelds propping them up, although the buckets ofbad publicity lately with Tamadochi Life and the Youtube stuff certainly aren't helping) but unless some miracle happens, this generation isn't ending well for Nintendo. And a second or third flop could end their home console position (or at least limit it primarily to Japan).


The console market in japan is dicy.  Neither the wii U nor the ps4 seem to have found much traction yet, hell, the wii U just outsold the ps4 by a thousand or so units this week, due to the forthcoming MK8 hype.  It's become a market where console sales tank between big releases.  even handheld sales are down a lot as of late.
 
2014-05-28 01:06:00 PM  

AlgertMan: With little third-party support, Nintendo's Wii U is rapidly becoming a box good for nothing other than playing Nintendo-made games.

That's what I own it for.  Nintendo is going to be Nintendo.  This is their greatest strength and weakness at the same time.  Lets keep touting Nintendo is doomed while Sony just lost over $1,000,000,000 last year.

/own a Wiiu, 3DS, PS4, Xbone, and a alright PC.
//Not a Vita. i'm not that stupid.
//I/m so, so alone.


You can't compare Sony to Nintendo. Sony is a major conglomerate with its hands in a dozen pies. You would have to compare it to Sony's gaming division (which, if worst came to be and Sony as a whole tanked it, would be spun off on its own and continue to operate). And as I understand that is one of the best performing Sony divisions.
 
2014-05-28 01:08:10 PM  

Rising_Zan_Samurai_Gunman: Summoner101: Because Nintendo is known for its deep well of third party IP?

/hint subby: it's well known for its deep well of first party IP

Their primary problem is that they have barely been dipping into that well of first party IP.   They should have had a major title in each of their IPs out in the first 6-9 months to sell consoles in order to get the 3rd party developers to stick around.


I can't really argue with this though as far as I can remember Nintendo has been pretty sketchy on getting their prime IPs released early in the system's life cycle.  Granted, usually each release comes with the new Mario game to sell the system.  A new Mario platformer would've generated more interest than a Super Mario World update.

All that said, I bought one just for when they release whatever iteration of Zelda/Mario/Metroid they're on.  Nintendo may be hurting for IP creativity, but dammit their original IPs are just damn fun.

/except for The Other M
//Let's not talk about The Other M
 
2014-05-28 01:09:45 PM  
If they could get the video game rights for rpgs like shadowrun, d&d, star wars, or white wolf, they could be the single greatest rpg console ever made. Penny arcade hit the nail on the head with that one. Imagine a game where you have 4 people playing characters with a 5th person in charge of the wiiu controller as the dm. That would be farking awesome. It'll also never happen in a million years.
 
2014-05-28 01:15:32 PM  

Antimatter: Optimal_Illusion: Nine Hundred and Eight: Perlin Noise: RedPhoenix122: Oh really?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari_Jaguar

that  wont even be true for Nintendo

[nintendoenthusiast.com image 538x337]

as terrible as it was.... I thought Virtual Boy was awesome when I was a kid... also Teleroboxer was awesome.

I have Teleroboxer, RedAlarm, Galactic Pinball, and of course Mario's Tennis.  I wonder if they can be ported to the 3DS.

I had Mario tennis, Warioland, and Mario clash.  I'd love to see 3ds remakes of them, would be fun.

dywed88: By this stage the WiiU is likely to be a flop of historic proportions for Nintendo. They have blown their two big advantages by not getting any system seller games out prior to the lauch of the Xbone and PS4 and failed to generate any casual interest like was done with the Wii (in no small part because people couldn't see it as a separate item).

It won't kill the company (one flop won't do the job even without the handhelds propping them up, although the buckets ofbad publicity lately with Tamadochi Life and the Youtube stuff certainly aren't helping) but unless some miracle happens, this generation isn't ending well for Nintendo. And a second or third flop could end their home console position (or at least limit it primarily to Japan).

The console market in japan is dicy.  Neither the wii U nor the ps4 seem to have found much traction yet, hell, the wii U just outsold the ps4 by a thousand or so units this week, due to the forthcoming MK8 hype.  It's become a market where console sales tank between big releases.  even handheld sales are down a lot as of late.


Yeah, I am the first to admit that I don't know much about the Japanese market, wanted to add that caveat because I didn't know and it is completely different than Europe and North American markets.

Though with how much more it is based on the "killer app" than other markets it isn't a surprise that the WiiU would have trouble in Japan.
 
2014-05-28 01:18:41 PM  

Perlin Noise: RedPhoenix122: Oh really?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari_Jaguar

that  wont even be true for Nintendo

[nintendoenthusiast.com image 538x337]


This.
 
2014-05-28 01:19:07 PM  

doczoidberg: A guy at work offered me 230 bucks for the system and the two games I had (Mario 3D World and Wonderful 101). I sold it, and put the proceeds toward getting a PS4 (yeah, yeah -- I could have gotten more than 230 bucks if I'd only sold it on EBay...BERR HURR, I don't care).


The irony for me is this: there's only one or two games I want for the PS4.  I already own the Wii U (and have Mario Kart preordered) and play a variety of games on the Wii U.  But there's nothing beyond the regular hack and slash and FPS games available for PS4, and I see no reason to favorited! down $400 on something where I'll have to wait another 6-7 months for a game I would be interested in.  Instead, I think I'm just gonna get a PS3 bundle and play all of the Sony exclusive games before I move on.
 
2014-05-28 01:21:23 PM  
Surely not, submitter.


www.ohgizmo.com
 
2014-05-28 01:23:38 PM  
I really want a WiiU, but I don't want to pay more than $100 for it. I think the new Mario game looks fun for me and the wife to play together. I love Mario Kart games. I just don't see spending more for the console than the games I'll get. The PS4 and XBOne are more expensive, but at least I know they'll have the games to justify it.
 
2014-05-28 01:25:10 PM  
WiiU is great console. My kids love it, I love it. The screen is a brilliant idea, and makes life a lot easier (can play while someone else is watching the TV).

Sad that the market/marketing aren't getting the job done, but as long as the Lego titles are WiiU playable, we'll be just fine.
 
Ant
2014-05-28 01:38:53 PM  

Perlin Noise: RedPhoenix122: Oh really?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari_Jaguar

that  wont even be true for Nintendo

[nintendoenthusiast.com image 538x337]


I got a headache just looking at that pic.
 
2014-05-28 01:39:59 PM  
Mario Kart 8 will probably sell at least a million consoles, but as it stands now (and only including major non-portable systems) the Wii U has outsold:

Atari 7800
Atari 5200
Atari Jaguar
3DO
Intellivision
Colecovision
Odyssey
 
2014-05-28 01:40:21 PM  

Hebalo: WiiU is great console. My kids love it, I love it. The screen is a brilliant idea, and makes life a lot easier (can play while someone else is watching the TV).

Sad that the market/marketing aren't getting the job done, but as long as the Lego titles are WiiU playable, we'll be just fine.


I think that's the huge difference in the Wii U market -- mostly parents and their kids.  For those of us who would prefer not to spend $60 on the latest regurgitated FPS, and would just like to play fun games that are worth the money, the Wii U is actually a solid device.  I have the XBox 360, and my son plays Skylanders on it, and that's pretty much it.  I have a total of two XBox games of my own: Dark Souls and Dark Souls 2.  Everything else I've played casually, rented, or sold.  When I take a look at the upcoming titles list, the Wii U is the MOST likely unit I'll be putting money into, all things considered.
 
2014-05-28 01:40:39 PM  

RedPhoenix122: Oh really?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari_Jaguar


Hey, Iron Soldier was better than anything on Wii U
 
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