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2014-05-28 09:20:54 AM  
Build Snowlympic City in the Canadian Rockies and have it be the permanent host of the Winter Olympics.
 
2014-05-28 09:32:24 AM  
Beijing?  People already can't breathe there, they were barely able to get the air quality to acceptable levels in 2008, is there any chance it won't be even worse in 2022 given China's complete reticence to enact serious emissions regulation?
 
2014-05-28 09:34:05 AM  
Fine, I'll host it. Take your shoes off before you come inside, though. I'm looking at you, Finland.
 
2014-05-28 09:35:03 AM  

Gunny Highway: Build Snowlympic City in the Canadian Rockies and have it be the permanent host of the Winter Olympics.


How can you embezzel money with that?

/Give it to Kazackstan
 
2014-05-28 09:59:47 AM  
Genuine question: why is it just assumed that the Olympics always have to be held in new, purpose-built facilities? Aren't there tens of them around the world now? Just put them on a permanent rotation or something. Lillehammer - > Seoul - > Lake Placid -> Innsbruck -> Calgary etc. If someone REALLY wants to be added to the rotation, let them put in a bid, but don't make it a set thing.
 
2014-05-28 10:05:54 AM  
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2014-05-28 10:06:52 AM  
Bring them back to Lake Placid.  Whiteface is my deadly favorite mountain to careen down head-over-heels and I'd like to see someone that can actually ski take on its icy terror.
 
2014-05-28 10:07:37 AM  
Don't worry, Qatar will step up
 
2014-05-28 10:08:02 AM  
Qatar will do it. They love bribing bidding for things that they don't have the climate for.
 
2014-05-28 10:11:22 AM  

Lost Thought 00: Gunny Highway: Build Snowlympic City in the Canadian Rockies and have it be the permanent host of the Winter Olympics.

How can you embezzel money with that?

/Give it to Kazackstan


www.tqsmagazine.co.uk
 
2014-05-28 10:11:43 AM  

whistleridge: Genuine question: why is it just assumed that the Olympics always have to be held in new, purpose-built facilities? Aren't there tens of them around the world now? Just put them on a permanent rotation or something. Lillehammer - > Seoul - > Lake Placid -> Innsbruck -> Calgary etc. If someone REALLY wants to be added to the rotation, let them put in a bid, but don't make it a set thing.


That sounds like a logical solution, so clearly I'm missing something.
 
2014-05-28 10:12:49 AM  

tnpir: whistleridge: Genuine question: why is it just assumed that the Olympics always have to be held in new, purpose-built facilities? Aren't there tens of them around the world now? Just put them on a permanent rotation or something. Lillehammer - > Seoul - > Lake Placid -> Innsbruck -> Calgary etc. If someone REALLY wants to be added to the rotation, let them put in a bid, but don't make it a set thing.

That sounds like a logical solution, so clearly I'm missing something.


The facilities go from being state of the art to not state of the art very quickly?  Or something.
 
2014-05-28 10:18:45 AM  

Gunny Highway: tnpir: whistleridge: Genuine question: why is it just assumed that the Olympics always have to be held in new, purpose-built facilities? Aren't there tens of them around the world now? Just put them on a permanent rotation or something. Lillehammer - > Seoul - > Lake Placid -> Innsbruck -> Calgary etc. If someone REALLY wants to be added to the rotation, let them put in a bid, but don't make it a set thing.

That sounds like a logical solution, so clearly I'm missing something.

The facilities go from being state of the art to not state of the art very quickly?  Or something.


I mean they could spend a little money renovating them. Still cost a fraction of buildin whole new cities.
 
2014-05-28 10:19:48 AM  

Ray_Finkle: Gunny Highway: tnpir: whistleridge: Genuine question: why is it just assumed that the Olympics always have to be held in new, purpose-built facilities? Aren't there tens of them around the world now? Just put them on a permanent rotation or something. Lillehammer - > Seoul - > Lake Placid -> Innsbruck -> Calgary etc. If someone REALLY wants to be added to the rotation, let them put in a bid, but don't make it a set thing.

That sounds like a logical solution, so clearly I'm missing something.

The facilities go from being state of the art to not state of the art very quickly?  Or something.

I mean they could spend a little money renovating them. Still cost a fraction of buildin whole new cities.


Snowlympic City.
 
2014-05-28 10:20:15 AM  
It is because Bob Costas will be there.
 
2014-05-28 10:21:01 AM  
The IOC done corrupted themselves out of an event.
 
2014-05-28 10:21:33 AM  
I say we bring them back to Calgary.  We already have everything ready from the last go around mostly.
 
2014-05-28 10:21:49 AM  
Good. Maybe this, combined with the Brazil games being on life support at the moment, will finally show the IOC that if they don't reform their ways, the events with they are charged with facilitating will wither and die. I don't have the same hopes for FIFA.
 
2014-05-28 10:22:20 AM  

tnpir: whistleridge: Genuine question: why is it just assumed that the Olympics always have to be held in new, purpose-built facilities? Aren't there tens of them around the world now? Just put them on a permanent rotation or something. Lillehammer - > Seoul - > Lake Placid -> Innsbruck -> Calgary etc. If someone REALLY wants to be added to the rotation, let them put in a bid, but don't make it a set thing.

That sounds like a logical solution, so clearly I'm missing something.


You can't extort money from new host cities that way. No more lavish trips to "determine" what a good host city would be.
 
2014-05-28 10:23:53 AM  

tnpir: whistleridge: Genuine question: why is it just assumed that the Olympics always have to be held in new, purpose-built facilities? Aren't there tens of them around the world now? Just put them on a permanent rotation or something. Lillehammer - > Seoul - > Lake Placid -> Innsbruck -> Calgary etc. If someone REALLY wants to be added to the rotation, let them put in a bid, but don't make it a set thing.

That sounds like a logical solution, so clearly I'm missing something.


If you rotate among set locations, the IOC doesn't get to collect bribes and contractors don't get to skim from stadium projects
 
2014-05-28 10:28:48 AM  
Come on, Wichita, Kansas.  Now's your chance!
 
2014-05-28 10:32:18 AM  

aedude01: Come on, Wichita, Kansas.  Now's your chance!


One of my favorite motorsports events of the year is in Witchita. They also have a kick-ass Combat Air Museum.
 
2014-05-28 10:33:34 AM  
spread the event and costs across five countries.  each of them gets a ring.
 
2014-05-28 10:34:48 AM  

Outlaw2097: spread the event and costs across five countries.  each of them gets a ring.


Better yet do it in Antarctica.
 
2014-05-28 10:35:11 AM  

Representative of the unwashed masses: I say we bring them back to Calgary.  We already have everything ready from the last go around mostly.


Same with Salt Lake. AFAIK, everything has either expanded, or is in it's original state, but running well. It's the difference between having them in a rural area already set up for winter sports with a nearby metropolitan area and having them in some obscure resort town in Russia and having to build everything from scratch.
 
2014-05-28 10:35:41 AM  

ElwoodCuse: tnpir: whistleridge: Genuine question: why is it just assumed that the Olympics always have to be held in new, purpose-built facilities? Aren't there tens of them around the world now? Just put them on a permanent rotation or something. Lillehammer - > Seoul - > Lake Placid -> Innsbruck -> Calgary etc. If someone REALLY wants to be added to the rotation, let them put in a bid, but don't make it a set thing.

That sounds like a logical solution, so clearly I'm missing something.

If you rotate among set locations, the IOC doesn't get to collect bribes and contractors don't get to skim from stadium projects


So...cities around the world are willing to go billions in the hole falling all over themselves just for the opportunity to offer members of the IOC cushy bribes? You would think they would have seen through that by now...
 
2014-05-28 10:36:03 AM  

whistleridge: Genuine question: why is it just assumed that the Olympics always have to be held in new, purpose-built facilities? Aren't there tens of them around the world now? Just put them on a permanent rotation or something. Lillehammer - > Seoul - > Lake Placid -> Innsbruck -> Calgary etc. If someone REALLY wants to be added to the rotation, let them put in a bid, but don't make it a set thing.


There is what makes sense and then there is what makes people money.
 
2014-05-28 10:38:24 AM  

tnpir: whistleridge: Genuine question: why is it just assumed that the Olympics always have to be held in new, purpose-built facilities? Aren't there tens of them around the world now? Just put them on a permanent rotation or something. Lillehammer - > Seoul - > Lake Placid -> Innsbruck -> Calgary etc. If someone REALLY wants to be added to the rotation, let them put in a bid, but don't make it a set thing.

That sounds like a logical solution, so clearly I'm missing something.


Want to know how we all know you're not a corrupt evil bastard?
 
2014-05-28 10:40:40 AM  
Why only have them in one city at once?  You could have around-the-clock Olympics by using three cities at a time.
 
2014-05-28 10:41:53 AM  
Another victim of global warming.
 
2014-05-28 10:42:53 AM  

Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: Why only have them in one city at once?  You could have around-the-clock Olympics by using three cities at a time.


Why not include Spring and Fall olympics as well?
 
2014-05-28 10:45:10 AM  
Considering the IOC's rampant corruption, the winter Olympics being the less popular of the two and just offering a poor return-on-investment in general, perhaps they should start bundling it with the summer Olympics again.
 
2014-05-28 10:45:39 AM  

Mikey1969: Same with Salt Lake. AFAIK, everything has either expanded, or is in it's original state, but running well. It's the difference between having them in a rural area already set up for winter sports with a nearby metropolitan area and having them in some obscure resort town in Russia and having to build everything from scratch.


It seems like the IOC (and FIFA for that matter) should have a "baseline" for facilities that are already constructed or something like that.  They probably already do, but I doubt either follows them.  You want the Olympics?  Your city needs to have 50% of the infrastructure in place prior to placing your bid and a contingency plan. For example, let's say that LA bid for the Summer Games again and part of the bid package was a new stadium for opening and closing ceremonies and track events (which would later be used for football obviously).  The contingency for that part of the bid would be the Coliseum.

Of course, the flipside is that actually following some sort of baseline would limit it to a handful of countries and I could see why folks wouldn't want to do that.
 
2014-05-28 10:46:03 AM  
Gunny Highway:

That sounds like a logical solution, so clearly I'm missing something.

The facilities go from being state of the art to not state of the art very quickly?  Or something.


Things like Speedskating, figure staking, hockey, etc are unchanging. Almost no modifications needed year to year. Bobsled track and things like that would need to be changed up, even just to make the course different, but you could keep the same surrounding infrastructure (start and end gates, mechanicals, etc). And things like downhill and such change naturally with new snow and conditioning every year anyway.
 
2014-05-28 10:46:21 AM  

Smeggy Smurf: tnpir: whistleridge: Genuine question: why is it just assumed that the Olympics always have to be held in new, purpose-built facilities? Aren't there tens of them around the world now? Just put them on a permanent rotation or something. Lillehammer - > Seoul - > Lake Placid -> Innsbruck -> Calgary etc. If someone REALLY wants to be added to the rotation, let them put in a bid, but don't make it a set thing.

That sounds like a logical solution, so clearly I'm missing something.

Want to know how we all know you're not a corrupt evil bastard?


Oh...darn? :p
 
2014-05-28 10:46:31 AM  

whistleridge: ElwoodCuse: tnpir: whistleridge: Genuine question: why is it just assumed that the Olympics always have to be held in new, purpose-built facilities? Aren't there tens of them around the world now? Just put them on a permanent rotation or something. Lillehammer - > Seoul - > Lake Placid -> Innsbruck -> Calgary etc. If someone REALLY wants to be added to the rotation, let them put in a bid, but don't make it a set thing.

That sounds like a logical solution, so clearly I'm missing something.

If you rotate among set locations, the IOC doesn't get to collect bribes and contractors don't get to skim from stadium projects

So...cities around the world are willing to go billions in the hole falling all over themselves just for the opportunity to offer members of the IOC cushy bribes? You would think they would have seen through that by now...


I think that's what this is. It's finally become so blatant and so ridiculous that everyday people are taking notice and calling bull shiat. As the article said, everywhere that it's being put to a vote of the people, it's getting voted down in a landslide.
 
2014-05-28 10:47:20 AM  
Let NBC host them every time
 
2014-05-28 10:50:58 AM  
FTA:  With the Sochi games raising the bar to an absurd $51 billion, hosting the Olympics no longer looks like a winning proposition.

Except, Sochi "raised the bar" due to cost overruns and corruption. The original quote - and therefore the "bar" - was $12 billion. Still high, but it's not as if the next country is expected to make a bid that includes Russian-style corruption.
 
2014-05-28 10:55:47 AM  

ladodger34: Mikey1969: Same with Salt Lake. AFAIK, everything has either expanded, or is in it's original state, but running well. It's the difference between having them in a rural area already set up for winter sports with a nearby metropolitan area and having them in some obscure resort town in Russia and having to build everything from scratch.

It seems like the IOC (and FIFA for that matter) should have a "baseline" for facilities that are already constructed or something like that.  They probably already do, but I doubt either follows them.  You want the Olympics?  Your city needs to have 50% of the infrastructure in place prior to placing your bid and a contingency plan. For example, let's say that LA bid for the Summer Games again and part of the bid package was a new stadium for opening and closing ceremonies and track events (which would later be used for football obviously).  The contingency for that part of the bid would be the Coliseum.

Of course, the flipside is that actually following some sort of baseline would limit it to a handful of countries and I could see why folks wouldn't want to do that.


That isnt such a bad idea... Currently, I wouldn't be surprised if they tried to host the farking WINTER games in farking LA.

Theaetetus: FTA:  With the Sochi games raising the bar to an absurd $51 billion, hosting the Olympics no longer looks like a winning proposition.

Except, Sochi "raised the bar" due to cost overruns and corruption. The original quote - and therefore the "bar" - was $12 billion. Still high, but it's not as if the next country is expected to make a bid that includes Russian-style corruption.


I think by "raising the bar", the poster is saying that regardless of what they bid, spending less will make someone look less capable. Look at sport stadiums, for example. Diamondbacks' new stadium has an opening roof, Cardinals' stadium has to have an open roof AND a field that rolls out into the sunlight(Which is what the farking opening roof is for anyway). Everyone has to one-up the last group. Russia spends $51 billion, the next country won't be happy unless they spend $52 billion.
 
2014-05-28 10:57:43 AM  
Honolulu should put in a troll bid for the 2022 Winter Games. It'd be especially funny if they won by default due to lack of bidders.

/I'd suggest Miami, but the IOC's "50-mile monopoly" rule means that I'd have to go up to West Palm Beach if I wanted to eat some food other than McDonald's, fuel my truck up at a gas station other than BP, or even have any access to my own money if there is some "Official Financial Institution Of The Olympic Games"
 
2014-05-28 11:01:23 AM  
Wasn't Salt Lake a posterboy for how to do the Olympics right?

At this point, just stick them in places that have most of the facilities..  Salt Lake, Whistler, Placid, the Alps, etc
 
2014-05-28 11:05:09 AM  

bhcompy: Wasn't Salt Lake a posterboy for how to do the Olympics right?


Yes. Hide the bribes better.
 
2014-05-28 11:10:43 AM  

aedude01: Come on, Wichita, Kansas.  Now's your chance!


Get ready for the excitement of downhill skiing in the Flint Hills:

visionsoftheflinthills.org

Seriously, though, just set up a permanent rotation.  Park City/Salt Lake City could probably host the Winter Olympics every four years because they already have state-of-the-art facilities for the American athletes to train in.
 
2014-05-28 11:15:34 AM  

Random Anonymous Blackmail: It is because Bob Costas will be there.


Well, Madagascar is out. Wouldn't want his pinkeye infecting everybody.

//also they have no snow
 
2014-05-28 11:19:08 AM  

rugman11: aedude01: Come on, Wichita, Kansas.  Now's your chance!

Get ready for the excitement of downhill skiing in the Flint Hills:

[visionsoftheflinthills.org image 850x462]

Seriously, though, just set up a permanent rotation.  Park City/Salt Lake City could probably host the Winter Olympics every four years because they already have state-of-the-art facilities for the American athletes to train in.


I actually really love that area.  It's really pretty at sunrise/sunset.

They really should just set up a rotation w bid option system.  Building new facilities every time is an absurd waste of resources.
 
2014-05-28 11:19:09 AM  

ladodger34: Of course, the flipside is that actually following some sort of baseline would limit it to a handful of countries and I could see why folks wouldn't want to do that.


Practically speaking, though, there are only a handful of countries that could host the winter Olympics.
 
2014-05-28 11:20:24 AM  

aedude01: Building new facilities every time is an absurd waste of resources.


That's kind of the whole point of the Olympics
 
2014-05-28 11:21:10 AM  

Representative of the unwashed masses: I say we bring them back to Calgary.  We already have everything ready from the last go around mostly.


Pass. This city pisses enough money away on idiocy. The Peace Bridge? The big stupid blue zero on an overpass?

Don't think for a second that even repeat cities wouldn't be expected to blow countless millions on "improvements" that mean nothing two days after the Olympic hoards leave town.
 
2014-05-28 11:21:49 AM  
I know what you're getting at subby, but we're not having it at my house...
 
2014-05-28 11:21:59 AM  

Lost Thought 00: aedude01: Building new facilities every time is an absurd waste of resources.

That's kind of the whole point of the Olympics


I knew I hated sports for a reason.
 
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