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(WCPO Cincinnati)   After a week of searching, involving four different local law enforcement agencies, the FBI and about 1,000 volunteers, police finally locate missing Cincinnati student. 15 feet from his home. That is some fine police work   (wcpo.com) divider line 82
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2014-05-27 06:46:37 AM  
This shiat drives me nuts. I live half an hour from there and people worked all the way out to flyer the cars in my neighborhood. What a farkup by the cpd.
 
2014-05-27 07:17:51 AM  
Auto erotic asphyxiation. Calling it.
 
2014-05-27 07:20:32 AM  
So...anytime someone is missing, police should just assume the right to enter and thoroughly explore all nearby buildings because geographic proximity makes large searches asinine. Got it.
 
2014-05-27 07:22:39 AM  

Pocket Ninja: So...anytime someone is missing, police should just assume the right to enter and thoroughly explore all nearby buildings because geographic proximity makes large searches asinine. Got it.


'Hey Mr property owner. I don't know if you noticed the non stop news coverage and flyers farking everywhere. That kid was last seen next to your abandoned property. Can we do a quick walk through?'. Now what is so hard about that?
 
2014-05-27 07:38:18 AM  
"We certainly have searched the exterior of this building extensively," Blackwell said. "That needs to be duly noted. We have walked around the perimeter of this facility. We (did not see) any sight of him."

Nice work, guys. Just look around a bit, "Nope! Don't see him," then donuts for everybody.
 
2014-05-27 07:45:34 AM  
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2014-05-27 07:55:10 AM  

NickelP: 'Hey Mr property owner. I don't know if you noticed the non stop news coverage and flyers farking everywhere. That kid was last seen next to your abandoned property. Can we do a quick walk through?'. Now what is so hard about that?


Because the building was locked up, they assumed the kid hadn't gone to the owner and said "Hey, I'm looking for someplace to end my miserable existence.  Mind if I use your old building?"

The only time I would say the police farked up is if the building was easily accessible.  If there were no signs of forced entry, how would they know.  It's not like they can just go through any nearby house looking for him.
 
2014-05-27 07:57:37 AM  
If the building was locked, which it should have been since it was abandoned, and they didn't see any sign of forced entry when they searched, then why would they suspect he had entered? Are they supposed to just go in? What about the building on the other side, and the one next to that? Should they enter every single building that is within walking distance of where he lived?
 
2014-05-27 07:57:47 AM  

labman: NickelP: 'Hey Mr property owner. I don't know if you noticed the non stop news coverage and flyers farking everywhere. That kid was last seen next to your abandoned property. Can we do a quick walk through?'. Now what is so hard about that?

Because the building was locked up, they assumed the kid hadn't gone to the owner and said "Hey, I'm looking for someplace to end my miserable existence.  Mind if I use your old building?"

The only time I would say the police farked up is if the building was easily accessible.  If there were no signs of forced entry, how would they know.  It's not like they can just go through any nearby house looking for him.


And no one committing suicide and doesn't want to be stopped, ever, evar locked themselves in.
 
2014-05-27 08:00:58 AM  

SecretAgentWoman: And no one committing suicide and doesn't want to be stopped, ever, evar locked themselves in.


Who was going to stop him at 2am in the basement of an abandoned building? How did he get in the building to begin with?
 
2014-05-27 08:07:03 AM  

doglover: Auto erotic asphyxiation. Calling it.


That makes a remarkable amount of sense from what I've read -- not an intentional suicide, and major precautions for privacy...
 
2014-05-27 08:07:45 AM  
Authorities said they are 98 percent certain the body is Dulle, but the Hamilton County coroner will likely use dental records to identify him. Officers informed Dulle's parents later in the evening of their son's death, a family spokesperson said.

After a week and they need dental records to confirm the body? Must have been pretty hot in there.
 
2014-05-27 08:08:55 AM  

Harry Freakstorm: Authorities said they are 98 percent certain the body is Dulle, but the Hamilton County coroner will likely use dental records to identify him. Officers informed Dulle's parents later in the evening of their son's death, a family spokesperson said.

After a week and they need dental records to confirm the body? Must have been pretty hot in there.


Its been in the 80's or so all week
 
2014-05-27 08:11:36 AM  
So he was out with a flashlight looking for his phone...and then a few minutes later decides to kill himself?

Not so sure about that one.
 
2014-05-27 08:14:25 AM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: "We certainly have searched the exterior of this building extensively," Blackwell said. "That needs to be duly noted. We have walked around the perimeter of this facility. We (did not see) any sight of him."

Nice work, guys. Just look around a bit, "Nope! Don't see him," then donuts for everybody.


I don't want to second guess whether the police should have entered the building earlier, I just love the cop logic/arse covering:
   "We certainly have searched the exterior... We have walked around the perimeter of this facility..."
That doesn't help much if he is inside, does it? And it is lame if it is arse-covering.
   Why didn't you look inside? Well, we looked outside.
The chief should have left this statement to the "Official Spokesperson."
 
2014-05-27 08:15:50 AM  
"It's just really terrifying. I live right here in Campus Parks and it's crazy to know something like this happened," neighbor Ally Wilkes said. "A lot of our friends have been out doing volunteering and people we know that knew him and his family, it's heartbreaking."

It's terrifying that someone committed suicide?  How can you face each day when death is that scary to you?
 
2014-05-27 08:16:28 AM  

austin_millbarge: If the building was locked, which it should have been since it was abandoned, and they didn't see any sign of forced entry when they searched, then why would they suspect he had entered? Are they supposed to just go in? What about the building on the other side, and the one next to that? Should they enter every single building that is within walking distance of where he lived?


It would seem reasonable to have a volunteer or officer make a list of vacant buildings near by (like sAy next door), and then secure permission to search them yes. Since the cpd said around Tuesday they no longer had any valid tips to investigate and were focusing on leading volunteers to search a wide area before giving up and kicking the can to the state police and ultimately requesting FBI help then yea, I think that is a pretty common sense thing that should have been done and they apparently had plenty of time to do it.
 
2014-05-27 08:18:53 AM  
Also to give some info on the area, it is high crime with frequent muggings etc, particularly late at night. So the idea that someone would of gotten into a confrontation with him or pulled him into that building wouldn't have been a far fetched theory at all. In fact it was one of the more probable ones.
 
2014-05-27 08:20:30 AM  
Was he wearing a pony plug?
 
2014-05-27 08:21:19 AM  

austin_millbarge: If the building was locked, which it should have been since it was abandoned, and they didn't see any sign of forced entry when they searched, then why would they suspect he had entered? Are they supposed to just go in? What about the building on the other side, and the one next to that? Should they enter every single building that is within walking distance of where he lived?


It wasn't abandoned, it was being renovated.
 
2014-05-27 08:26:16 AM  
Donde esta "Lou"?.
 
2014-05-27 08:26:57 AM  
Authorities said Dulle's body was instead found by a landlord who came to check on the property Monday night.

There's a year of therapy (f)right there.
 
2014-05-27 08:30:25 AM  
Cold_Sassy: It wasn't abandoned, it was being renovated.


OK so maybe not ABANDONED the point is no one lived there. And in THAT neighborhood, if it was being renovated you can bet it was locked.
 
2014-05-27 08:32:17 AM  

Carn: "It's just really terrifying. I live right here in Campus Parks and it's crazy to know something like this happened,"


I think in the shadow of Memorial Day, people should note that what is truly terrifying are the number of US Veterans who commit suicide every day. Of course the media covers it up. Look into it. THAT is truly terrifying.
 
2014-05-27 08:32:41 AM  
He was probably pissed that his parents named him Brogan.
 
2014-05-27 08:39:30 AM  
So he was hanging and chill-in, where were the peeps?
 
2014-05-27 08:44:07 AM  

NickelP: Also to give some info on the area, it is high crime with frequent muggings etc, particularly late at night. So the idea that someone would of gotten into a confrontation with him or pulled him into that building wouldn't have been a far fetched theory at all. In fact it was one of the more probable ones.


This.

I don't get why so many people assume that some guy who went to look for his cellphone with a flashlight, just suddenly had an impulse to hang himself or to get himself off by auto-erotic asphyxiation.
 
2014-05-27 08:45:52 AM  

doglover: Auto erotic asphyxiation. Calling it.


Makes perfect nonsense.
 
2014-05-27 08:47:15 AM  

austin_millbarge: Cold_Sassy: It wasn't abandoned, it was being renovated.


OK so maybe not ABANDONED the point is no one lived there. And in THAT neighborhood, if it was being renovated you can bet it was locked.


True enough, but you can't blame the cops for not concentrating their efforts there, especially when it was a publicized fact fact that the kid left his apartment at 2:00 AM to go look for his cellphone that he had lost while out drinking.

That said, I would never send my kids to UC, in the middle of a ghetto.
 
2014-05-27 08:51:27 AM  
Was he murdered by the phone thief perhaps? Where's his phone? Find the phone.
 
2014-05-27 08:51:51 AM  
98% sure, lol, dafuq?
 
2014-05-27 08:52:33 AM  
which is currently being rehabilitated.

I don't think that means what you think it means.
 
2014-05-27 08:53:23 AM  
Eh, neighborhood is not THAT bad. I work three blocks away.

But jeez, kid, it was just a phone. No need to kill yourself.

/what was on the phone, eh?

//they treated this like an 8 year old girl was missing, not an adult man. Kind of odd I thought.
 
2014-05-27 08:56:09 AM  
Any chance he fell/jumped off a roof and into the locked building?
 
2014-05-27 08:57:41 AM  

reggaejunkiejew: 98% sure, lol, dafuq?


Decomposition had some time taking its toll on the body already, so they were probably going on the ID in the pocket and general description.  But making sure that the body didn't belong to a mugger who got killed, and could mean the kid is alive somewhere else would mean they are being thorough.
 
2014-05-27 08:59:11 AM  

danielscissorhands: doglover: Auto erotic asphyxiation. Calling it.

Makes perfect nonsense.


He hid himself away and didn't mean to die. Hid too well, got kilt, and it took his rotten smell to alert people he was barely outside of his apartment.

Plus they're purposely NOT saying what happened, but don't suspect foul play? Normally they say "He shot himself/ ODed/ etc."
 
2014-05-27 09:00:07 AM  
assets.sbnation.com
 
2014-05-27 09:00:22 AM  

DrBrownCow: Any chance he fell/jumped off a roof and into the locked building?


It does remind me of the time my little bro went missing during a church rummage sale.  We had the cops going all over the place looking, and it turned out he went into a church building and locked the door behind himself.  The search took a couple hours because we didn't think he knew how to operate the lock nor could he reach it, but he used a chair.
 
2014-05-27 09:05:13 AM  

doglover: danielscissorhands: doglover: Auto erotic asphyxiation. Calling it.

Makes perfect nonsense.

He hid himself away and didn't mean to die. Hid too well, got kilt, and it took his rotten smell to alert people he was barely outside of his apartment.

Plus they're purposely NOT saying what happened, but don't suspect foul play? Normally they say "He shot himself/ ODed/ etc."


Yes, I understand your reasoning, but when's the last time you went to seach for something you lost and said "well, can't find it, I might as well go cut off my air supply and jerk off"?
 
2014-05-27 09:06:23 AM  

DrBrownCow: Any chance he fell/jumped off a roof and into the locked building?


Nevermind....just saw the photo at the end of the article showing the distance between the two buildings.  I took the beginning of the article too literally when it stated his apartment was "just feet away".

The article stated that they found him "hanging in the apartment due to a self-inflicted act" but that doesn't necessarily mean suicide.    Perhaps he was drunk and went into the wrong building trying to get home and fell through a floor.   The article said the building was being rehabbed.
 
2014-05-27 09:08:56 AM  
This seems weird to me too. They have surveillance video of him looking for the phone, and when he couldn't find it, he decided to break into an empty building (without leaving a trace) and hang himself? Or his grand plan all along was to hang himself there, but he wanted to make sure that he found his phone first because the moonshine was ready at Cletus's farm? (obscure?)

I don't want to say it was aliens, but...
 
2014-05-27 09:09:11 AM  

danielscissorhands: doglover: danielscissorhands: doglover: Auto erotic asphyxiation. Calling it.

Makes perfect nonsense.

He hid himself away and didn't mean to die. Hid too well, got kilt, and it took his rotten smell to alert people he was barely outside of his apartment.

Plus they're purposely NOT saying what happened, but don't suspect foul play? Normally they say "He shot himself/ ODed/ etc."

Yes, I understand your reasoning, but when's the last time you went to seach for something you lost and said "well, can't find it, I might as well go cut off my air supply and jerk off"?


Well, if I was searching in the bedroom & the house was empty....

/keep the air supply going though...
 
2014-05-27 09:10:10 AM  
Something isn't adding up. This kid has been hanging and decomposing in this heat to the point that the authorities are using dental records to identify him and no one, no one living soul, smelled him before hand? Decomposing bodies, be it man or animal have the worst scent in the world. And it's not a faint scent. It's a scent you can smell a block away.Even more, it's a stench that can form within hours of the person dying given the right settings. His body should have smelled awful by day two to the point that no one could have ignored it. Not seven days later.

How could he have been missed?
 
2014-05-27 09:12:08 AM  

mekki: Something isn't adding up. This kid has been hanging and decomposing in this heat to the point that the authorities are using dental records to identify him and no one, no one living soul, smelled him before hand? Decomposing bodies, be it man or animal have the worst scent in the world. And it's not a faint scent. It's a scent you can smell a block away.Even more, it's a stench that can form within hours of the person dying given the right settings. His body should have smelled awful by day two to the point that no one could have ignored it. Not seven days later.

How could he have been missed?


Cincinnati
 
2014-05-27 09:12:15 AM  
Hmm, let's see.  "Loved to work with kids", and was a youth swim coach.  Lost his cell phone and apparently can't find it and all the sudden hangs himself.  This may be out there but I think there may be some bad things(pictures) on that cellphone and he panicked.
 
2014-05-27 09:14:13 AM  

mekki: Something isn't adding up. This kid has been hanging and decomposing in this heat to the point that the authorities are using dental records to identify him and no one, no one living soul, smelled him before hand? Decomposing bodies, be it man or animal have the worst scent in the world. And it's not a faint scent. It's a scent you can smell a block away.Even more, it's a stench that can form within hours of the person dying given the right settings. His body should have smelled awful by day two to the point that no one could have ignored it. Not seven days later.

How could he have been missed?


The building was closed up. Yes, decomposition stinks, but when your own house is closed up, with the A/C running and the suicide site closed up, I doubt you would notice it.  The building next door also had a considerable setback from the apartment building in which he lived, so yes, it is entirely possible.
 
2014-05-27 09:22:03 AM  

FarkingSmurf: Hmm, let's see.  "Loved to work with kids", and was a youth swim coach.  Lost his cell phone and apparently can't find it and all the sudden hangs himself.  This may be out there but I think there may be some bad things(pictures) on that cellphone and he panicked.


Hmm. This is why it's always a safe bet to hate children.
 
2014-05-27 09:32:22 AM  
I am reminded of my neighbor, who couldn't find her three year old.  Panicked, she called the police, who scoured the neighborhood, found nothing...and then the child awoke from the nap she took in the bathtub.
 
2014-05-27 09:36:35 AM  

FarkingSmurf: work with kids

FarkingSmurf: Hmm, let's see.  "Loved to work with kids", and was a youth swim coach.  Lost his cell phone and apparently can't find it and all the sudden hangs himself.  This may be out there but I think there may be some bad things(pictures) on that cellphone and he panicked.


The reason I think there might be something to that is that what 21-year old guy gets their jollies working with kids?  Most of them want to be out chasing girls/drinking/going to ballgames/movies/concerts etc.  at that age I hated kids.
 
2014-05-27 09:37:22 AM  

Creoena: So he was out with a flashlight looking for his phone...and then a few minutes later decides to kill himself?

Not so sure about that one.


yeah, that sounds suspicious.  and nothing in the article mentions depression or other indications he was suicidal.
 
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