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(Wikipedia)   Subby would like a professional opinion from a certified comics nerd with a degree in mutantology: how much of the continuity of the previous X-Men movies is destroyed by the new one?   (en.wikipedia.org) divider line 20
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2014-05-27 12:34:12 AM
Anything J. J. Abrams does is out of continuity, an "imaginary tale" in that particular universe.  It's the only way to reconcile the canon that came before.
 
2014-05-27 01:12:13 AM
At this point it would be entirely up to whomever makes the next film to decide what from previous films, if anything, counts at all.
 
2014-05-27 04:09:09 AM

Heffaloo: At this point it would be entirely up to whomever makes the next film to decide what from previous films, if anything, counts at all.


Nothing from "X-Men 3" and "X-Men Origins: Wolverine" should be considered canon. In fact, someone competent should be given a shot at re-doing the Dark Phoenix saga.
 
2014-05-27 04:45:29 AM
MmmmBacon:
Nothing from "X-Men 3" and "X-Men Origins: Wolverine" should be considered canon. In fact, someone competent should be given a shot at re-doing the Dark Phoenix saga.

Many of us already refuse to admit those two films exist anyway.
 
2014-05-27 05:03:19 AM

MmmmBacon: Nothing from "X-Men 3" and "X-Men Origins: Wolverine" should be considered canon. In fact, someone competent should be given a shot at re-doing the Dark Phoenix saga.


It's never gonna happen.

I gave up on the X-Duds long ago.
 
2014-05-27 08:06:29 AM
First Class, DOFP, and some of the opening montage of Wolverine: Origins.  Some of the events of the other movies could have happened but may have played out differently but we don't have enough info to know for sure.
 
2014-05-27 08:35:38 AM
Pretty much the entire series is completely gone now.  We know that Wolverine's history is at least slightly different -- he would not have got his adamantium treatment the same way as we know.  Also, at the end of each of the main movies, Jean was dead, wasn't she?  It appears that Senator Kelly's crusade never happened, and pretty much everything else has got to be different, although some of the same plot points may have happened, it all had to happen differently.
 
2014-05-27 08:41:25 AM

Nefarious: DOFP


For this only the 70's portion and the "bright future"
 
2014-05-27 08:52:50 AM
I read DOFP as DOOP, and was hoping the little green bastard was in the movies.
 
2014-05-27 10:02:17 AM

Heffaloo: Many of us already refuse to admit those two films exist anyway.


Next you're going to tell me they never made any sequels to Highlander or The Matrix, either ;)
 
2014-05-27 11:05:58 AM
This is why I was really disappointed to learn that First Class wasn't a true reboot.  I'm fine with telling a different version of the origin of the X-Men, but then saying "Oh yeah, it fits in with the other movies too" is silly.  Either start from scratch or make a movie that fits the series.  Singer and Co. just kind of halfway did both.  That's not to say I didn't like First Class or that I won't watch DOFP, but the continuity is a farking mess.
 
2014-05-27 11:45:27 AM

Hoban Washburne: This is why I was really disappointed to learn that First Class wasn't a true reboot.  I'm fine with telling a different version of the origin of the X-Men, but then saying "Oh yeah, it fits in with the other movies too" is silly.  Either start from scratch or make a movie that fits the series.  Singer and Co. just kind of halfway did both.  That's not to say I didn't like First Class or that I won't watch DOFP, but the continuity is a farking mess.


DOFP is a soft reboot designed to erase away those continuity issues.  For all intents and purposes, the First Class timeline is the real timeline now.
 
2014-05-27 12:48:42 PM

Mentat: DOFP is a soft reboot designed to erase away those continuity issues. For all intents and purposes, the First Class timeline is the real timeline now.


I'm aware of that, but in theory the two timelines are exactly the same up until the point Wolverine travels back from the future (haven't actually seen DOFP yet).  There are a lot of weird inconsistencies like the Summers brothers being so far apart in age, Moira being two different people, etc.  It's not the end of the world, but I think it would have been a stronger choice to truly start over with First Class/DOFP.
 
2014-05-27 02:08:15 PM

Hoban Washburne: Mentat: DOFP is a soft reboot designed to erase away those continuity issues. For all intents and purposes, the First Class timeline is the real timeline now.

I'm aware of that, but in theory the two timelines are exactly the same up until the point Wolverine travels back from the future (haven't actually seen DOFP yet).  There are a lot of weird inconsistencies like the Summers brothers being so far apart in age, Moira being two different people, etc.  It's not the end of the world, but I think it would have been a stronger choice to truly start over with First Class/DOFP.


.. that Prof X and Magneto age at somewhat slow speed...  (they were kids during the Holocaust, appear mid 30's or so which would fit the actors, in 1973, and appear to be around about 60ish from X1 which presumably takes place around the time it came out in 2000, all the way to the "future" part of DOFP which takes place in about 2023.  Assuming they were both born at the end of the Holocaust would stretch even that, say 1940, they'd both be pretty darn good looking 80+ish.  Going on the actor's ages, that would be correct.. except that they seemed to appear to be older than "just born" in at the end of the Holocaust, that time looked to be around about the early 30s rather than the 40s.

I guess that's not pushing it -that- far, though.
 
2014-05-27 05:37:08 PM
Pfffft ... like X-Men has a continuity that actually makes any damn sense at all:

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2014-05-28 12:29:10 AM
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Watched "First Class" the other day. Actually screaming "oh you've got to be shiatting me" at my television.
 
2014-05-28 02:15:21 AM
... maybe what we really should be asking, is why Peter Dinklage's personal filing system is three times his height?
 
2014-05-28 10:07:32 AM
Tell yourself it's just a show & you really ought to just relax.

/It's the only way I got thru the recent "Star Trek" caricature movies.
 
2014-05-28 03:04:56 PM

Pokey.Clyde: Heffaloo: Many of us already refuse to admit those two films exist anyway.

Next you're going to tell me they never made any sequels to Highlander or The Matrix, either ;)


I'll acknowledge the Matrix sequels as legit, but I know nothing of these Highlander sequels of which you speak.  Perhaps you are instead referring to the poorly written fan fiction that was inflicted on the populace years later?
 
2014-05-28 06:30:45 PM

Hoban Washburne: Mentat: DOFP is a soft reboot designed to erase away those continuity issues. For all intents and purposes, the First Class timeline is the real timeline now.

I'm aware of that, but in theory the two timelines are exactly the same up until the point Wolverine travels back from the future (haven't actually seen DOFP yet).  There are a lot of weird inconsistencies like the Summers brothers being so far apart in age, Moira being two different people, etc.  It's not the end of the world, but I think it would have been a stronger choice to truly start over with First Class/DOFP.


As I understand it, in the movie continuity, Alex is Scott's father, not his brother.
 
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