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(New York Daily News)   So the Mets' Jose Valverde Experiment went about as well as everyone expected   (nydailynews.com) divider line 50
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2014-05-26 09:45:17 PM  
Bigger news?  The Pirates won!
 
2014-05-27 01:18:42 AM  
I feel bad for Dave Hudgens, after the extensive work he did to teach Bartolo Colon to hit like this:

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2014-05-27 01:21:45 AM  
I'd feel bad for the Mets if they weren't stupid enough to sign Valverde in the first place.  What were they thinking?
 
2014-05-27 01:31:51 AM  
I feel bad for Valverde, he was a great closer just a few years ago. Now instead of his frustratingly long pre-pitch routine, his signature move has become *turn around really fast and watch my team try and field the stinkerball I just pitched*.

I just thank golly he isn't a Tiger any longer. Though I don't think he'd hurt the team much right now, not possible.
 
2014-05-27 02:16:25 AM  
At first I thought that said Jean Vandevelde.
 
2014-05-27 06:50:14 AM  

violentsalvation: I feel bad for Valverde, he was a great closer just a few years ago. Now instead of his frustratingly long pre-pitch routine, his signature move has become *turn around really fast and watch my team try and field the stinkerball I just pitched*.

I just thank golly he isn't a Tiger any longer. Though I don't think he'd hurt the team much right now, not possible.


11-9-2-12-12-10.  What the Hell, Tigers?  The Rangers can barely scrape up enough bodies to field a team and they shredded your pitching staff!

It's Karma for you giggling about Fielder's surgery.
 
2014-05-27 08:25:51 AM  
I was assured that Farnsworth and Valverde would form like a voltron of awesome relief pitching.
 
2014-05-27 08:50:29 AM  
I feel bad.
 
2014-05-27 08:58:05 AM  
In all fairness, the Mets essentially bought a DeLorean; it may have looked cool a few years ago, but it's essentially a heap of broken parts that just doesn't have it anymore.
 
2014-05-27 09:27:47 AM  
Did Valverde ever resume throwing the forkball? It was a great pitch, and one day he just decided to throw 100% fastballs. And pitch his way out of baseball.
 
2014-05-27 09:41:45 AM  

UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: I feel bad for Dave Hudgens, after the extensive work he did to teach Bartolo Colon to hit like this:


He's just minimizing the strike zone.

Or protecting his yabbos.
 
2014-05-27 10:23:51 AM  
i never thought i would pine for the stability of the armando benitez era
 
2014-05-27 10:32:34 AM  

ChrisDe: Did Valverde ever resume throwing the forkball? It was a great pitch, and one day he just decided to throw 100% fastballs. And pitch his way out of baseball.


When he wild pitched in that winning run last week, he was throwing nothing but sliders (or some sort breaking ball, the dudes on MLBN said it was a slider, but it looked like it had too much downward break for one).
 
2014-05-27 10:54:30 AM  

violentsalvation: I feel bad for Valverde, he was a great closer just a few years ago. Now instead of his frustratingly long pre-pitch routine, his signature move has become *turn around really fast and watch my team try and field the stinkerball I just pitched*.

I just thank golly he isn't a Tiger any longer. Though I don't think he'd hurt the team much right now, not possible.


It's weird how easily this happens to closers. Look at the leaderboard in saves for any particular season and you'll find a good number of guys whose careers imploded within the next two or three years. The Mets have already seen this with Francisco Rodriguez. When I eyeball the top 40 or so among the all-time single-season saves leaders, the list looks to be about 50% flash-in-the-pan types.

Yet another reason to appreciate the greatness of Mariano Rivera and Trevor Hoffman.
 
2014-05-27 10:55:24 AM  
Dave Dombrowski, I'm warning you... If you take this guy back, I'm renouncing my 35 years of Tiger fandom.
 
2014-05-27 11:02:08 AM  

buckeyebrain: Dave Dombrowski, I'm warning you... If you take this guy back, I'm renouncing my 35 years of Tiger fandom.


You gotta admit that would take the heat off of Phil Coke.
 
2014-05-27 11:04:18 AM  
I am very thankful for Casey janssen. Everyone else should give thanks.

Sorry Oakland about jj
 
2014-05-27 11:06:16 AM  

buckeyebrain: Dave Dombrowski, I'm warning you... If you take this guy back, I'm renouncing my 35 years of Tiger fandom.


I wouldn't worry too much.  I expect Valverde will find his way into a Central American league or some other place where he might not totally suck.
 
2014-05-27 11:16:58 AM  

ChrisDe: buckeyebrain: Dave Dombrowski, I'm warning you... If you take this guy back, I'm renouncing my 35 years of Tiger fandom.

You gotta admit that would take the heat off of Phil Coke.


Gah.  Phil Coke shouldn't have even been invited to camp this year, let alone make the team.
 
2014-05-27 11:56:56 AM  

buckeyebrain: ChrisDe: buckeyebrain: Dave Dombrowski, I'm warning you... If you take this guy back, I'm renouncing my 35 years of Tiger fandom.

You gotta admit that would take the heat off of Phil Coke.

Gah.  Phil Coke shouldn't have even been invited to camp this year, let alone make the team.


The Tigers know Coke is bad for them but they just haven't been able to break the habit.
 
2014-05-27 12:19:18 PM  

UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: I feel bad for Dave Hudgens, after the extensive work he did to teach Bartolo Colon to hit like this:


At least he seems to enjoy it.

msn.foxsports.com
 
2014-05-27 12:22:48 PM  
Phil Coke was a hell of a pitcher for the yankees, problem is Detriot doesn't know how to use him. As for Valverde, HAHahahahahahahahah Karma.

I hated Valverde with Detroit, not sure whose worse valverde or Fernando Rodney.
 
2014-05-27 12:31:11 PM  

Misconduc: I hated Valverde with Detroit, not sure whose worse valverde or Fernando Rodney.


Valverde, but only just barely
 
2014-05-27 01:55:42 PM  

Gunny Highway: I feel bad.


Hehe, I noticed that too.
 
2014-05-27 02:03:24 PM  
i would like to take this somewhat random opportunity to cordially invite Reuben Amaro Jr to go fark himself.  Mainly on general principle, but also because it wouldn't surprise me if Valverde ended up in Philadelphia
 
2014-05-27 02:36:24 PM  

Gunny Highway: I feel bad.


But you kiss great
 
2014-05-27 02:59:55 PM  

violentsalvation: I feel bad for Valverde, he was a great closer just a few years ago. Now instead of his frustratingly long pre-pitch routine, his signature move has become *turn around really fast and watch my team try and field the stinkerball I just pitched*.

I just thank golly he isn't a Tiger any longer. Though I don't think he'd hurt the team much right now, not possible.


Who the hell is "golly", and why are you thanking him/her?
 
2014-05-27 03:27:32 PM  
Stan Kyles (bullpen coach) was fired by the Brewers midseason in 2012. That didn't do a damned thing. Good luck Mets, though you will always have a spot in my heart for 2008.
 
2014-05-27 04:15:23 PM  

The Bestest: I was assured that Farnsworth and Valverde would form like a voltron of awesome relief pitching.


Don't ever mention the words "Farnsworth" and "awesome relief" in the same sentence ever again. The monitor may be salvageable, me dying of laughter is not.
 
2014-05-27 04:55:29 PM  
Ahhh, Jose Valverde:  The Todd Jones of the Dominican Republic.
 
2014-05-27 05:04:38 PM  
So Farnsworth and Valverde didn't work.. anyone else the Mets want to give a try? Maybe call Brad Lidge?
 
2014-05-27 05:06:57 PM  

UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: I feel bad for Dave Hudgens, after the extensive work he did to teach Bartolo Colon to hit like this:


Hey, it's always worked for Jeter!
 
2014-05-27 05:11:42 PM  

The Bestest: So Farnsworth and Valverde didn't work.. anyone else the Mets want to give a try? Maybe call Brad Lidge?


Seriously though...these were the guys they signed to fix the bullpen. That's it. And they both got cut.
 
2014-05-27 05:21:49 PM  

mrjared: The Bestest: So Farnsworth and Valverde didn't work.. anyone else the Mets want to give a try? Maybe call Brad Lidge?

Seriously though...these were the guys they signed to fix the bullpen. That's it. And they both got cut.


And if anyone believed those two (especially Valverde) would actually "fix the bullpen," they shouldn't be in baseball at any level.
 
2014-05-27 05:30:24 PM  

mrjared: The Bestest: So Farnsworth and Valverde didn't work.. anyone else the Mets want to give a try? Maybe call Brad Lidge?

Seriously though...these were the guys they signed to fix the bullpen. That's it. And they both got cut.


MAXIMUM TROLLING: Mets convince Rivera to come out of retirement.
 
2014-05-27 05:33:23 PM  
i18.photobucket.com
 
2014-05-27 05:57:51 PM  

idesofmarch: Misconduc: I hated Valverde with Detroit, not sure whose worse valverde or Fernando Rodney.

Valverde, but only just barely


http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/pitching/_/sort/saves/league/al/year/20 14 /seasontype/2

I know as a mariner fan Rodney has blown some saves this year, but he is number 3 on the list of slaves. So no where near as bad Valverde at least not yet.
 
2014-05-27 05:58:58 PM  
Err saves not slaves, man that was an awkward slip.
 
2014-05-27 05:59:33 PM  

SenorBenedict: I know as a mariner fan Rodney has blown some saves this year, but he is number 3 on the list of slaves.


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2014-05-27 06:13:11 PM  

desertgeek: mrjared: The Bestest: So Farnsworth and Valverde didn't work.. anyone else the Mets want to give a try? Maybe call Brad Lidge?

Seriously though...these were the guys they signed to fix the bullpen. That's it. And they both got cut.

And if anyone believed those two (especially Valverde) would actually "fix the bullpen," they shouldn't be in baseball at any level.


They got "lucky" with the relative success of LaTroy Hawkins last year and thought they could do it again. They were very wrong. Putting Dice-K and Mejia into the bullpen has been a lot better. Hopefully Vic Black will be ok. Someone other than Torres and Rice need to be able to take the ball.
Also, somebody on the team has to start HITTING THE farkING BALL!
 
2014-05-27 07:16:58 PM  

mrjared: Also, somebody on the team has to start HITTING THE farkING BALL!


I'm sorry.. you appear to be unfamiliar with the New York Mets (at least the Mets of -this- decade)

/and everyone on the team not named David Wright
 
2014-05-27 07:39:01 PM  
Also, presenting Exhibit 47B in evidence of the Mets' history of structural managerial ineptitude, top to bottom:

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(credit to UNC_Samurai in the batdog thread)
 
2014-05-27 07:40:29 PM  
just noticed the date on that tweet.. probably already made Fark then

whatever, still funny
 
2014-05-27 08:15:05 PM  

The Bestest: mrjared: Also, somebody on the team has to start HITTING THE farkING BALL!

I'm sorry.. you appear to be unfamiliar with the New York Mets (at least the Mets of -this- decade)

/and everyone on the team not named David Wright


Nope. All too familiar. Any time they sign a guy, he instantly forgets how to hit. Doesn't matter who it is. He could be having a HoF career *coughRobertoAlomar* or whatever, doesn't matter. He won't hit in NY. Trade a guy away and he turns into an all-star.
 
2014-05-27 08:31:15 PM  

mrjared: desertgeek: mrjared: The Bestest: So Farnsworth and Valverde didn't work.. anyone else the Mets want to give a try? Maybe call Brad Lidge?

Seriously though...these were the guys they signed to fix the bullpen. That's it. And they both got cut.

And if anyone believed those two (especially Valverde) would actually "fix the bullpen," they shouldn't be in baseball at any level.

They got "lucky" with the relative success of LaTroy Hawkins last year and thought they could do it again. They were very wrong. Putting Dice-K and Mejia into the bullpen has been a lot better. Hopefully Vic Black will be ok. Someone other than Torres and Rice need to be able to take the ball.
Also, somebody on the team has to start HITTING THE farkING BALL!


The bullpen isn't really the problem.  Dice-K actually seems to work there, and Mejia looks great.  Add in Jeurys Familia, who has been solid, and Gonzalez Germen, who was good until a virus pushed him to the DL (ouch), and you have an alright pen.  Rice has been a solid lefty, Josh Edgin hasn't sucked (yet), and Vic Black is exciting.

The problem is that they are like 6 for 43 with the bases loaded and keep losing one run games.  Depending on your point of view, they're either unlucky, or they're losing losers that always lose.  In either case, there's not much to be done except hit better.

And for the love of god, just bench Chris Young already.  Or get rid of him.  He's absolutely terrible.  His 202/287/349 slashline isn't an aberration. It's exactly who he is.
 
2014-05-27 11:40:24 PM  

SenorBenedict: Err saves not slaves, man that was an awkward slip.


Rodney blows slaves????
 
2014-05-28 12:24:38 AM  

johnny_vegas: i would like to take this somewhat random opportunity to cordially invite Reuben Amaro Jr to go fark himself.  Mainly on general principle, but also because it wouldn't surprise me if Valverde ended up in Philadelphia


desertgeek: And if anyone believed those two (especially Valverde) would actually "fix the bullpen," they shouldn't be in baseball at any level.


I'll let these two quotes speak for themselves.

/seriously, how the hell does Rube still have a job?
 
2014-05-28 12:45:19 AM  

Joe_diGriz: seriously, how the hell does Rube still have a job?


When in doubt, assume the guy has blackmail material on the owner.
 
2014-05-28 08:59:03 AM  

Misconduc: Phil Coke was a hell of a pitcher for the yankees, problem is Detriot doesn't know how to use him. As for Valverde, HAHahahahahahahahah Karma.

I hated Valverde with Detroit, not sure whose worse valverde or Fernando Rodney.


Should Coke be a ball boy? Honestly, Coke did some great work in the playoffs. He is done now though. If I see him out there and point at a pop fly one more time I might lose it.

Austin Jackson "Thanks Phil, because you pointed to the sky, stomped and then kicked I was totally able to track down that lazy can of corn"
 
2014-05-28 10:33:13 AM  

SenorBenedict: Err saves not slaves, man that was an awkward slip.


If not for Flood you could have left that sentence stand uncorrected.
 
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