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(Cinematallica)   Before there was the friendly candy-loving E.T., there was the much darker Night Skies, the Spielberg movie that never got made. See what could have fueled your childhood nightmares   (cinematallica.com) divider line 37
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2014-05-26 12:52:03 PM  
"ET began with me trying to write a story about my parents' divorce."  Steven Spielberg.
 
2014-05-26 04:07:15 PM  
e.t. fueled my childhood nightmares, dammit... once they brought in the tubes and hazmat suits?

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2014-05-26 04:08:12 PM  
In the same vein, the original script (http://ubuntuone.com/0dUU0MSeUDPZnIT6zDkeXe) for Close Encounters is floating around out there. It was written by genius "Taxi Driver" writer Paul Schrader, but Spielberg thought it was garbage. It's actually pretty funny.
 
2014-05-26 04:10:57 PM  

cynicalminion: e.t. fueled my childhood nightmares, dammit... once they brought in the tubes and hazmat suits?

donotwant.jpg


I also found it terrifying, but mostly because I hate Reeses pieces.
 
2014-05-26 04:14:12 PM  
Why not remake it now? Richard Dreyfuss is looking for work.
 
2014-05-26 04:18:05 PM  
That's MISTER E.T. to you, buddy...

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I pity the fool.
 
2014-05-26 04:26:45 PM  
Does anyone know if Spielberg has ever talked about being jewish and a believer of aliens?

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2014-05-26 04:44:38 PM  

GungFu: Does anyone know if Spielberg has ever talked about being jewish and a believer of aliens?

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Hey, as the recent Noah movie demonstrates, there was some real farked up shiat in the old testament, so it is easy to reconcile.

For example, some aliens visit Sodom and Gomorrah, the local population gets all rapey, and the aliens drop some rods from god on the populace to show them what's what. Lot's family thinks it is the end of the world, so his daughters date rape him to keep humanity going.

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2014-05-26 04:48:17 PM  
Night Skies?  Is that anything like Fire in the Sky?  Cuz that movie freaked me the fark out when it first came out.
 
2014-05-26 04:51:31 PM  
Also, the article doesn't really make it clear that the most E.T. looking one was a Photoshop where Rick Baker erased the skull off of the more sinister looking alien and added E.T. eyes. So Carlo Rambaldi didn't lift the entire design, but rather seems to have borrowed the neck and prominent brow ridges and then morphed them into a more family friendly alien. Still a bit of a jerk move, especially considering how he trashed talked, but not quite wholesale theft.
 
Boe
2014-05-26 05:55:55 PM  
So did the John Sayles script also evolve into the Brother from Another Planet?  Or did he just have ET's on the brain in the early 80's?
 
2014-05-26 06:30:21 PM  
In April 0f 1980, with Spielberg producing, Rob Cobb (conceptual artist, production designer of Conan the Barbarian)

The fail in that sentence is strong.
 
2014-05-26 06:32:12 PM  

Boe: So did the John Sayles script also evolve into the Brother from Another Planet?  Or did he just have ET's on the brain in the early 80's?


And don't forget Battle Beyond the Stars.
 
2014-05-26 08:02:04 PM  
The story goes that Spielberg heard of a report about a Kentucky family that was terrorized by a group of aliens in the 1950s

This is that story:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelly%E2%80%93Hopkinsville_encounter
 
2014-05-26 08:27:59 PM  

cynicalminion: e.t. fueled my childhood nightmares, dammit... once they brought in the tubes and hazmat suits?

donotwant.jpg


They brought in the whole Internet?
 
2014-05-26 08:56:21 PM  

Walker: The story goes that Spielberg heard of a report about a Kentucky family that was terrorized by a group of aliens in the 1950s

This is that story:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelly%E2%80%93Hopkinsville_encounter


I saw a skeptic show about that once. They brought in witnesses who flat out said the adults were well known for getting drunk, despite what the ufologists claimed. Then they showed drawings of the aliens back to back with owls. They were comically similar.
 
2014-05-26 09:46:19 PM  

Old Man Winter: Walker: The story goes that Spielberg heard of a report about a Kentucky family that was terrorized by a group of aliens in the 1950s

This is that story:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelly%E2%80%93Hopkinsville_encounter

I saw a skeptic show about that once. They brought in witnesses who flat out said the adults were well known for getting drunk, despite what the ufologists claimed. Then they showed drawings of the aliens back to back with owls. They were comically similar.



"Members of two families at the farmhouse reported seeing unidentifiable creatures and other witnesses attested to lights in the sky and odd sounds."

That might be true, but alcohol is not a hallucinogen, and it looks like a few other details were overlooked.

Coincidentally, most abductees report seeing owls before abduction experiences.

You should read a book called Abduction by John Mack (now deceased), a psychiatrist, Harvard professor, and Pulitzer prize winning author. He became exposed to the abduction phenomenon via Budd Hopkins. Initially a skeptic of the phenomenon, like any educated and logical person would be, he came to believe in the experiences of the people he met in his practice. He started doing hypnotherapy on these "abductees" after meeting Hopkins and a few of these individuals. Eventually, his practice became known for this work, and he wrote a book regarding these stories and experiences.

These individuals (abductees) didn't know each other, but gave incredibly similar details of the experiences they were having. Some of these details were incredibly left-field stuff - stuff most people wouldn't think of normally - such as having sperm and eggs removed, seeing hybrid beings, being floated through walls and windows, being paralyzed, seeing owls before abduction experiences, etc.

It's a fascinating book written by a highly educated man. Whatever your beliefs on the subject may be now, you should keep an open mind on it and research it further. It is one of the most important things we are facing as a species if these experiences are in fact true.

A quick Google search on Mayan art, paintings hundreds of years old, stone carvings from natives thousands of years old, lend credence that something is up regarding these types of visitations.

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2014-05-26 10:18:57 PM  
Old Man Winter:
I saw a skeptic show about that once. They brought in witnesses who flat out said the adults were well known for getting drunk.

Well duh. It clearly says this took place in Kentucky.
 
2014-05-26 10:33:50 PM  
For those of you that don't know

What's that? Like three or four people at this point?
 
2014-05-26 10:45:08 PM  

OOBE Juan Kenobi: A quick Google search on Mayan art, paintings hundreds of years old, stone carvings from natives thousands of years old, lend credence that something is up regarding these types of visitations.


No, actually, they don't. Not in any way, shape, or form.
 
2014-05-26 10:56:57 PM  

jso2897: OOBE Juan Kenobi: A quick Google search on Mayan art, paintings hundreds of years old, stone carvings from natives thousands of years old, lend credence that something is up regarding these types of visitations.

No, actually, they don't. Not in any way, shape, or form.


Really? Can you elaborate a little on your statement? It's quite easy to shoot down my statement without providing any reasoning behind behind your own belief...

If you can't explain yourself, it's just comes off as shallow drivel.
 
2014-05-26 10:58:09 PM  

jso2897: OOBE Juan Kenobi: A quick Google search on Mayan art, paintings hundreds of years old, stone carvings from natives thousands of years old, lend credence that something is up regarding these types of visitations.

No, actually, they don't. Not in any way, shape, or form.


Actually, it does...

www.mediabistro.com
 
2014-05-27 12:43:23 AM  

OOBE Juan Kenobi: jso2897: OOBE Juan Kenobi: A quick Google search on Mayan art, paintings hundreds of years old, stone carvings from natives thousands of years old, lend credence that something is up regarding these types of visitations.

No, actually, they don't. Not in any way, shape, or form.

Really? Can you elaborate a little on your statement? It's quite easy to shoot down my statement without providing any reasoning behind behind your own belief...

If you can't explain yourself, it's just comes off as shallow drivel.


The only thing that Mayan art demonstrates is that Mayans like to create art with exaggerated human features. That's it. Attributing any other meaning to it is literally just baseless speculation on your part.

There's literally just as much evidence that the Mayan art actually depicts ghosts, or elves.
 
F42
2014-05-27 12:56:33 AM  

OOBE Juan Kenobi: These individuals (abductees) didn't know each other, but gave incredibly similar details of the experiences they were having.


You can explain these experiences without aliens http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_experimentation_in_the_United_Stat e s#Human_radiation_experiments

Some of these people could have been the victims of human unethical science experiments.

Mayan art, paintings hundreds of years old, stone carvings from natives thousands of years old

Well, that art is very stylised, it's not meant to look exactly like its subject...

I like ancient astronaut stories, I really do, but humans down here are a good explanation for most of what is being credited to aliens.
 
2014-05-27 01:12:53 AM  

ArcadianRefugee: cynicalminion: e.t. fueled my childhood nightmares, dammit... once they brought in the tubes and hazmat suits?

donotwant.jpg

They brought in the whole Internet?


Back then you could get the Internet with a Speak N Spell, a saw blade, and a record needle.
 
2014-05-27 02:19:37 AM  
Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom:

The only thing that Mayan art demonstrates is that Mayans like to create art with exaggerated human features. That's it. Attributing any other meaning to it is literally just baseless speculation on your part.

It's all just baseless speculation on my part. I haven't read any books on the subject (regarding the beliefs of natives from S. America, N. America & Africa on the subject of UFOs), so I'm not very informed on the subject. Thanks for clearing that up.

It takes a lot less effort to debunk then it does to actually look things up, read books, and research what you say and then make an informed opinion about it.

If you had actually looked at other Mayan pieces of work before you made your opinion, you would probably know that they actually made other pieces that have nothing to do with figures that are also UFO related. Since you made that assumption, I'm going to have to most likely correctly assume you didn't actually research what you said before you said it.

If you had also researched common native beliefs (not just the Mayans - natives all over the world), you would also know that 'star people' are a common thread of the belief systems of medicine men and shamen. Since the natives of today are familiar with stories passed down from their ancestors, this leads some credence to what I say. There's a higher probability that I am right and you are wrong. These works of art are representing 'star people'.

Pretty amazing, huh? Researching things... Don't worry - I did the work for you...

farm8.static.flickr.com
nebadonien.files.wordpress.com

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http://www.in5d.com/mayan-elder-speaks.html

http://www.drboylan.com/strknrpt2.html

http://2012indyinfo.com/2012/03/26/sioux-chief-speaks-of-star-people -2 012-and-mayan-calendar/
 
2014-05-27 04:29:44 AM  

OOBE Juan Kenobi: There's a higher probability that I am right and you are wrong.


So... your logic is that your "research" is more accurate because you found a tiny fraction of pictures and links that support it, even though the other, say, 99% of those "native beliefs and art" you have so thoughtfully consolidated for us have nothing to do with the 'star people'?

/did not fully "research what I just said"
//did not need to
/// emphasis!
 
2014-05-27 04:58:38 AM  

OOBE Juan Kenobi: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom:

The only thing that Mayan art demonstrates is that Mayans like to create art with exaggerated human features. That's it. Attributing any other meaning to it is literally just baseless speculation on your part.

It's all just baseless speculation on my part. I haven't read any books on the subject (regarding the beliefs of natives from S. America, N. America & Africa on the subject of UFOs), so I'm not very informed on the subject. Thanks for clearing that up.

It takes a lot less effort to debunk then it does to actually look things up, read books, and research what you say and then make an informed opinion about it.

If you had actually looked at other Mayan pieces of work before you made your opinion, you would probably know that they actually made other pieces that have nothing to do with figures that are also UFO related. Since you made that assumption, I'm going to have to most likely correctly assume you didn't actually research what you said before you said it.

If you had also researched common native beliefs (not just the Mayans - natives all over the world), you would also know that 'star people' are a common thread of the belief systems of medicine men and shamen. Since the natives of today are familiar with stories passed down from their ancestors, this leads some credence to what I say. There's a higher probability that I am right and you are wrong. These works of art are representing 'star people'.

Pretty amazing, huh? Researching things... Don't worry - I did the work for you...






http://www.in5d.com/mayan-elder-speaks.html

http://www.drboylan.com/strknrpt2.html

http://2012indyinfo.com/2012/03/26/sioux-chief-speaks-of-star-people -2 012-and-mayan-calendar/


I'm not familiar with the specific images you have and I'm strictly on an old mobile browser so I don't click on strange links so my phone doesn't crash.

I got into anthropology largely because of writers like Graham Hancock. I enjoy many of his books and he has a lot of interesting points and data points. How do you look at interpretations of prehistoric artifacts and have confidence in them, other than a fallacious appeal to authority? History is seen as an incredibly important tool and various authorities will go to ridiculous lengths to control the narrative.

One conclusion I reached early on is a rejection of alien intervention in human prehistory.

Let's take an old VW Beetle. You know that people sometimes use just the shell of the body as a planter for a flower bed. Someone long after finds this car body, the pollen and soil texture and correctly identifies the spot as a flower garden. However there is nothing from that context that tells the investigator that he was looking at a car body repurposed for that. Even if he or she recognized it was physically a car body theywould miss out on the cultural context of that car style, its symbolism in "flower power" and its deliberate selection as a flower garden. The stories of starmen were matched by stories about civilizers from the ocean, also with elaborate images showing things like fishmen. In my view, it was because both the sky and the waters were seen as the abodes of gods.

The images you have, stripped of provenance, remind me of 20th century impressions of UFOs. Before the mid-20th century UFOs looked like blimps. Before that they were fiery chariots drawn by horses, or giant angels.

One other conclusion I reached was how offensive the notion of alien intervention really was to me. We look at the Great Pyramids and have the hubris to declare that because we are impressed, our own ancestors could not have built them. That such a project was beyond the scope of such primitive people.

We underestimate the knowledge and skill of our ancestors to make ourselves feel better about ourselves.

I saw this in action. Went to Mounds State Park in Indiana with a small group. The platform of the biggest mound there lies directly above the largest magnetic anomoly in Indiana. A pure coincidence, we are told hy our state trained guide. There is no evidence that Native Americans knew anything about magnetism. The closest settlements were 60 miles away. They just happened to build this complex here and site the platform of the biggest mound thusly by accident. Later on that year I went to an academic conference. A grad student did a poster (actually computer presentation) on verified astronomical alignments between mound across three states, so precise that they took the curvature of the earth into account. It was predictive, too. His supporting fieldwork had identified through soil analysis two other mounds long since destroyed that filled in gaps in the alignment patterns. Aliens, or did they measure the circumference of the earth like the Greeks did in Egypt?

The "alien" hypothesis makes sense only when one considers our level of knowledge about mostly unknown ancient cultures.

I realize that I did not directly address much of what you present as support, mostly because I don't have enough knowledge of what you have studied to properly debate your evidence. I know that I came out of my studies convinced that there is far more to human civilization than is conventionally admitted, and that such a conviction has little chance of ever being proven or disproven because any smoking gun evidence would have long since vanished.

I am going to look at those links when I have a chance so that I can form an informed opinion of my own. But knowing the legacy left by Chariots of the Gods I pray for decent editing. There are some horrible writers out there selling books to people with low expectations. At least with Ancient Aliens I don't have to read the bad punctuation.
 
2014-05-27 05:16:21 AM  

BolloxReader: I'm not familiar with the specific images you have...


Yeah! What the smart guy said!

Take that, Ufo Kenobi...

/"Stripped of Provenance" would make an excellent band name.
 
2014-05-27 08:17:49 AM  
What was that TV miniseries he produced? The one with the little hybrid girl and the guy they kept abducting so they could figure out why and how he fought back. I missed the last episode of that. Too lazy to look it up.
 
2014-05-27 08:18:35 AM  

BolloxReader:  We look at the Great Pyramids and have the hubris to declare that because we are impressed, our own ancestors could not have built them.



Wrong.  It was Apocalypse.
 
2014-05-27 10:08:48 AM  

Walker: The story goes that Spielberg heard of a report about a Kentucky family that was terrorized by a group of aliens in the 1950s

This is that story:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelly%E2%80%93Hopkinsville_encounter


Maybe Fark can help me, I remember watching a film, very late at night on some random satellite channel. I was maybe 13? So almost 20 years ago now. It was American, set in the then present day, and the "plot"sounds just like that link. I'm figuring having read it that it was probably based on that. However it was all filmed on handheld video, this was pre Blair witch.

Same theme though as the link, only glimpses of the creatures, cars wrecked, scurrying noises from the roof etc. One of the characters pisses himself (not sure why THAT particular image stayed with me) film ends with the family out of ammo, resigned to their fates sat around the table. The camera is lying on its side in the dining room, eerie green light is coming from the right hand side frame and you just see the creatures walking in (in shadow) and it cuts to credits.

To this day the only film that totally shat me up.

/obscure? (Let's find out!)
 
2014-05-27 10:45:07 AM  
OOBE Juan Kenobi:

Re: Mayan UFO artifacts:

There are also some odd circumstances which call into question the authenticity of those artifacts: http://theobjectreport.blogspot.dk/2012/07/special-report- recently-re vealed-mayan.html

I'm not saying they're definitely fake, but until they undergo rigorous testing by a reputable university, no one can say they're the real deal.

Considering the incredible vastness of the universe it seems unlikely we're alone. Whether other beings are actually visiting us though, is still open to question.
 
2014-05-27 12:16:38 PM  

OOBE Juan Kenobi: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom:

The only thing that Mayan art demonstrates is that Mayans like to create art with exaggerated human features. That's it. Attributing any other meaning to it is literally just baseless speculation on your part.

It's all just baseless speculation on my part. I haven't read any books on the subject (regarding the beliefs of natives from S. America, N. America & Africa on the subject of UFOs), so I'm not very informed on the subject. Thanks for clearing that up.

It takes a lot less effort to debunk then it does to actually look things up, read books, and research what you say and then make an informed opinion about it.

If you had actually looked at other Mayan pieces of work before you made your opinion, you would probably know that they actually made other pieces that have nothing to do with figures that are also UFO related. Since you made that assumption, I'm going to have to most likely correctly assume you didn't actually research what you said before you said it.

If you had also researched common native beliefs (not just the Mayans - natives all over the world), you would also know that 'star people' are a common thread of the belief systems of medicine men and shamen. Since the natives of today are familiar with stories passed down from their ancestors, this leads some credence to what I say. There's a higher probability that I am right and you are wrong. These works of art are representing 'star people'.

Pretty amazing, huh? Researching things... Don't worry - I did the work for you...

[farm8.static.flickr.com image 675x500]
[nebadonien.files.wordpress.com image 320x313]

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 640x483]

http://www.in5d.com/mayan-elder-speaks.html

http://www.drboylan.com/strknrpt2.html

http://2012indyinfo.com/2012/03/26/sioux-chief-speaks-of-star-people -2 012-and-mayan-calendar/


It's Chariots Of The Gods.  They like completely own all of South America
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2014-05-27 01:08:07 PM  

OOBE Juan Kenobi: Old Man Winter: Walker: The story goes that Spielberg heard of a report about a Kentucky family that was terrorized by a group of aliens in the 1950s

This is that story:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelly%E2%80%93Hopkinsville_encounter

I saw a skeptic show about that once. They brought in witnesses who flat out said the adults were well known for getting drunk, despite what the ufologists claimed. Then they showed drawings of the aliens back to back with owls. They were comically similar.


"Members of two families at the farmhouse reported seeing unidentifiable creatures and other witnesses attested to lights in the sky and odd sounds."

That might be true, but alcohol is not a hallucinogen, and it looks like a few other details were overlooked.

Coincidentally, most abductees report seeing owls before abduction experiences.

You should read a book called Abduction by John Mack (now deceased), a psychiatrist, Harvard professor, and Pulitzer prize winning author. He became exposed to the abduction phenomenon via Budd Hopkins. Initially a skeptic of the phenomenon, like any educated and logical person would be, he came to believe in the experiences of the people he met in his practice. He started doing hypnotherapy on these "abductees" after meeting Hopkins and a few of these individuals. Eventually, his practice became known for this work, and he wrote a book regarding these stories and experiences.

These individuals (abductees) didn't know each other, but gave incredibly similar details of the experiences they were having. Some of these details were incredibly left-field stuff - stuff most people wouldn't think of normally - such as having sperm and eggs removed, seeing hybrid beings, being floated through walls and windows, being paralyzed, seeing owls before abduction experiences, etc.

It's a fascinating book written by a highly educated man. Whatever your beliefs on the subject may be now, you should keep an open mind on it and research it further. It is on ...


I do love me some alien/monster stories, but the odds of that actually being true are a billion ^ billion. It's much more likely that those people were harassed by elves or something rather than aliens.
 
2014-05-27 01:09:29 PM  

cynicalminion: e.t. fueled my childhood nightmares, dammit... once they brought in the tubes and hazmat suits?

donotwant.jpg


Definitely not alone! ET scared the living shiat out of me as a kid. I wish Jason Vorhees would've got a hold of him.
 
2014-05-27 05:53:51 PM  

Mad_Radhu: GungFu: Does anyone know if Spielberg has ever talked about being jewish and a believer of aliens?

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Hey, as the recent Noah movie demonstrates, there was some real farked up shiat in the old testament, so it is easy to reconcile.

For example, some aliens visit Sodom and Gomorrah, the local population gets all rapey, and the aliens drop some rods from god on the populace to show them what's what. Lot's family thinks it is the end of the world, so his daughters date rape him to keep humanity going.

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No, it doesn't. That wasn't the "Noah" from the Biblical "Old Testament". That was the Kabbalistic "Noah", a completely different animal. Anyone who actually has read both the Kabbalah and the text we know as the Bible should be able to see the difference and also identify which text inspired the movie.

That being said, yes, there is some farked up stuff in the Biblical old testament. Mass Genocide being the most common, but hardly the only thing you will find. The incident with Lot and his daughters raping him (he was elderly at the time so it was also abuse of the elderly for extra points) was one fine example. Another is the retribution visited on a bunch of kids who harassed an old man who happened to be a prophet. Yep, devoured by bears. And let's not forget the reasons given for the mass exterminations of the Canaanites: human sacrifice (often children), ritual bestiality, and worship of the false gods that demanded these things (well, their priests did at least), not to mention the use of mediums to disturb the souls who had already passed on. Let's not forget the legendary plagues of Egypt. Pharaoh would have let the Israelites go if God hadn't decided to use him and his people as an object lesson for the ages and repeatedly hardened his heart against letting them go. And there are many other fun things you can find in the texts. Have fun looking for a woman who killed an enemy general by driving a tent peg through his eye, a man who almost strangles to death when his donkey runs under a tree branch and catches his neck in the fork of the branch, only to be finished off by a pursuer. To be fair the dude had raped his father's concubines, so his end was no worse than what many farkers wish on rapists.
 
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