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2014-05-26 08:40:36 AM
Idiot, one month of Total Fark and she could have known everything.
 
2014-05-26 09:24:14 AM
"White said she told a friend about the fee that kept her from graduating and her friend contacted the college president. After being told about White's problem, Stehle paid her balance..."

In other words, she won.  Took a while, but winners never quit and quitters never win!
 
2014-05-26 09:45:50 AM
Sounds like a stubborn biddy.  If you feel your life has been incomplete because of that degree.  Why didn't you cough up the $5 decades ago?
 
2014-05-26 11:12:07 AM

BizarreMan: Sounds like a stubborn biddy.  If you feel your life has been incomplete because of that degree.  Why didn't you cough up the $5 decades ago?


To save $5.  All she had to do was live long enough.  Mission accomplished.
 
2014-05-26 11:23:29 AM

grokca: Idiot, one month of Total Fark and she could have known everything.


I thought paying TF $5 meant you already knew everything, but you got a free kitten.
 
2014-05-26 11:25:37 AM
This story sounds like the beginnings of dementia.
 
2014-05-26 11:27:19 AM
Guess she couldn't find a man to leech it off of after all those years.
 
GBB
2014-05-26 11:30:10 AM
She didn't pay the $5 Transcription Fee?  Those monks don't work for free, lady!

www.technewsdaily.com
 
2014-05-26 11:35:37 AM
Just goes to show ya, a degree doesn't make you smart...

/Seriously, in 75 years you couldn't come up with $5 after paying how much for the school?
 
2014-05-26 11:35:47 AM
Suffered from polio. Her mother was an anti-vaccine nutter.
 
2014-05-26 11:37:43 AM
Man, the Bursar's office never forgets, do they?
 
2014-05-26 11:37:53 AM
CSB!

My college pulled the "you have unpaid fees" thing and held my degree when I graduated.

My last year of college I was the Admin Residence Director for a group of five dorms.  I got asked to move in early and start working because my boss was "new" and was going to need to be "helped."  By "helped" they really meant "trained" by me.

I moved in early August and was so busy with him and training the other staff I don't think I got to unpack until October.  The room they put me in was a disaster; the previous Admin Director never itemized damage done by the previous occupant and the one I trained never got around to it.  After three months he got a better offer elsewhere and bailed.  The new Director was a prick.  I walked into his office while a resident was blowing him in exchange for dropping disciplinary board charges.  I confronted him about it later and we agreed that I would be available for emergencies but he was on his own for the rest of the year; I wanted no part of how he was going to run the place and conduct himself.

A week after graduation I got a letter telling me that I owed $500 and that they would not honor any requests for transcripts by potential employers until I coughed it up.  I'd had three potentials jobs lines up and all three needed transcripts.  I had to drive my ass the two hours up there and cough up everything I had in savings shy of $10 so they wouldn't hold my transcripts hostage.

So I guess the morale of the story is that for $5 and 70 years she got off light.
 
2014-05-26 11:39:25 AM

MassAsster: Just goes to show ya, a degree doesn't make you smart...

/Seriously, in 75 years you couldn't come up with $5 after paying how much for the school?


Well probably $50 for an entire four years.
 
2014-05-26 11:43:20 AM
Yeah, she paid, but this attitude problem is going on her permanent record!
 
2014-05-26 11:44:43 AM
I still refuse to donate to my alma mater because they charged me for a missing chair sophomore year.  It's been over twenty years now - I should probably let it go.
 
2014-05-26 11:54:49 AM
After the equivalent of 30G or more, youd think they could let 5 bucks slide.
 
2014-05-26 12:00:05 PM

CarnySaur: I still refuse to donate to my alma mater because they charged me for a missing chair sophomore year.  It's been over twenty years now - I should probably let it go.


I don't donate because those pricks already got 35k off me.  Why would I give them more money?!  They can go fark themselves
 
2014-05-26 12:05:18 PM
Another 75 years and she may have her college loans paid off.
 
2014-05-26 12:06:22 PM
I still don't understand the purpose of paying to graduate. And I even work in education and have had this argument hundreds of times with administrators who can't seem to grasp reality or provide a good counter-argument.

If you want to walk at graduation, that is one thing and I am okay charging for that....but if you just want to get your damn piece of maybe and certified that you have completed a program of study, why should it cost $20-50-$100?

Okay, someone has to run the graduation audit, someone who is already on the payroll and is being paid to sit in the registrar's office doing and audit or just waiting for a student to come in, so the sunk cost of an audit is already paid for...or you could even automate it with software.

next, with Complete College America, schools around the country are being asked to up their graduation rates, now for four-year colleges, most people want their diploma for the bachelors, but for two-year colleges most students don't care that much since they plan on getting a bachelors in the future (also, having an AA or AS degree isn't that big of a deal to employers; AAS or a technical degree maybe).   So why would a student pay MORE money for something they plan on replacing with an upgraded degree later on?

Also, a lot of schools funding is now based upon graduation rates and not just pure enrollment, so the two-year schools WANT to award degrees since it means money now, yet they can't understand why the students don't care about a degree for an associates.

Lastly, and this is the best one, the administrators don't understand that a lot of students don't just have $20, 40, 60, 80's to spend on something they view as worthless.  I have heard a couple say "It is only $40"...if it is such a paltry amount, then why not waive the $40?  students who have paid tuition, then felt nickel'd and dime'd for student fees, parking fees, recreation fees, administrative fee, books, etc. etc. etc.  are just burnt out and get angry to learn they have to pay one more fee to get what they have already earned.

if the school wants to increase the number of degrees (to get more money) then the school should eat the cost of awarding those degrees.

/rant off
 
2014-05-26 12:10:24 PM
Imagine how much more money she would have made in her lifetime if she had simply paid the extra $5 and gotten a degree.  She talks about not being able to get a job at first due to lack of a degree or experience, but a $5 bill would have gotten past that quickly.  And most of the jobs she had along the way would have probably paid a bit more each if she was able to claim the degree.

/beer is good, and people are crazy.
 
2014-05-26 12:16:10 PM
Slip them some dried frog pills.
 
2014-05-26 12:21:28 PM

Hyjamon: Lastly, and this is the best one, the administrators don't understand that a lot of students don't just have $20, 40, 60, 80's to spend on something they view as worthless.


Why are those students in school anyway? GTFO and make room in those seats for somebody who DOES want that degree.

And the admins are right, $20, 40, 60, 80 is pocket change compared to what the student has already paid them thus far in order to even get near that "worthless" degree.
 
2014-05-26 12:22:38 PM

Hyjamon: I still don't understand the purpose of paying to graduate.


But they're still graduates, right, even if they don't get the piece of paper?
 
2014-05-26 12:34:45 PM

SpdrJay: Yeah, she paid, but this attitude problem is going on her permanent record!


Actually she didn't pay, the college president did, she outstubborned em
 
2014-05-26 12:43:42 PM
Take that, Hitler!
 
2014-05-26 12:43:47 PM

The My Little Pony Killer: Hyjamon: Lastly, and this is the best one, the administrators don't understand that a lot of students don't just have $20, 40, 60, 80's to spend on something they view as worthless.

Why are those students in school anyway? GTFO and make room in those seats for somebody who DOES want that degree.

And the admins are right, $20, 40, 60, 80 is pocket change compared to what the student has already paid them thus far in order to even get near that "worthless" degree.


Not one of your better ones.
 
2014-05-26 12:44:37 PM
screw ABC news and their auto start. especially screw them when the auto start is an ad you can't kill.
 
2014-05-26 12:52:10 PM

Skarekrough: CSB!

My college pulled the "you have unpaid fees" thing and held my degree when I graduated.

My last year of college I was the Admin Residence Director for a group of five dorms.  I got asked to move in early and start working because my boss was "new" and was going to need to be "helped."  By "helped" they really meant "trained" by me.

I moved in early August and was so busy with him and training the other staff I don't think I got to unpack until October.  The room they put me in was a disaster; the previous Admin Director never itemized damage done by the previous occupant and the one I trained never got around to it.  After three months he got a better offer elsewhere and bailed.  The new Director was a prick.   I walked into his office while a resident was blowing him in exchange for dropping disciplinary board charges.  I confronted him about it later and we agreed that I would be available for emergencies but he was on his own for the rest of the year; I wanted no part of how he was going to run the place and conduct himself.

A week after graduation I got a letter telling me that I owed $500 and that they would not honor any requests for transcripts by potential employers until I coughed it up.  I'd had three potentials jobs lines up and all three needed transcripts.  I had to drive my ass the two hours up there and cough up everything I had in savings shy of $10 so they wouldn't hold my transcripts hostage.

So I guess the morale of the story is that for $5 and 70 years she got off light.


Yeah, yeah, but was the resident blowing him an attractive female?  This is a pivotal detail you are omitting from your story.

 I have to ask female as you did not specify.  It could been a neckbeard hipster.  They have this technique with their throat muscles they use while working the shaft but you probably never heard of it.
 
2014-05-26 12:56:45 PM

TheOther: grokca: Idiot, one month of Total Fark and she could have known everything.

I thought paying TF $5 meant you already knew everything, but you got a free kitten.


That's a scam, they promise you the free kitten but they track your foobies clicks then claim you killed it.
 
2014-05-26 01:03:09 PM
They should've charged her interest. She'd owe about $210 now at 5%
 
2014-05-26 01:08:47 PM

Mugato: Hyjamon: I still don't understand the purpose of paying to graduate.

But they're still graduates, right, even if they don't get the piece of paper?


nope.  If you want to have a transcript that states "Degree Awarded: Associates in Basket Weaving"  then you need to pay the fee.

Or if you just put it on your resume and they called the school to confirm that your degree was conferred, the school would say "no"
 
2014-05-26 01:10:40 PM

The My Little Pony Killer: Hyjamon: Lastly, and this is the best one, the administrators don't understand that a lot of students don't just have $20, 40, 60, 80's to spend on something they view as worthless.

Why are those students in school anyway? GTFO and make room in those seats for somebody who DOES want that degree.

And the admins are right, $20, 40, 60, 80 is pocket change compared to what the student has already paid them thus far in order to even get near that "worthless" degree.


bravo, the argument "everyone is $1 away from being the richest man in the world"
 
2014-05-26 01:11:53 PM

Hyjamon: The My Little Pony Killer: Hyjamon: Lastly, and this is the best one, the administrators don't understand that a lot of students don't just have $20, 40, 60, 80's to spend on something they view as worthless.

Why are those students in school anyway? GTFO and make room in those seats for somebody who DOES want that degree.

And the admins are right, $20, 40, 60, 80 is pocket change compared to what the student has already paid them thus far in order to even get near that "worthless" degree.

bravo, the argument "everyone is $1 away from being the richest man in the world"


or maybe a running analogy, a marathon is 26.2 miles, but that last bit, the part that is ONLY 0.2 miles is the toughest in your life.
 
2014-05-26 01:18:25 PM

JuggleGeek: Imagine how much more money she would have made in her lifetime if she had simply paid the extra $5 and gotten a degree.  She talks about not being able to get a job at first due to lack of a degree or experience, but a $5 bill would have gotten past that quickly.  And most of the jobs she had along the way would have probably paid a bit more each if she was able to claim the degree.

/beer is good, and people are crazy.


That's doubtful. While she would have had a degree, she would have still been trying to work in the 40s, 50s & 60s-during a time when women were devalued, underpaid, & denied jobs, simply because of their sex. Maybe it might have helped a little, but I really doubt it

//very cynical over here
//it obviously wasn't that important to her or she would have ponied up to $5 before now
 
2014-05-26 01:20:34 PM

Hyjamon: Mugato: Hyjamon: I still don't understand the purpose of paying to graduate.

But they're still graduates, right, even if they don't get the piece of paper?

nope.  If you want to have a transcript that states "Degree Awarded: Associates in Basket Weaving"  then you need to pay the fee.

Or if you just put it on your resume and they called the school to confirm that your degree was conferred, the school would say "no"


Huh. Bummer.
 
2014-05-26 01:31:49 PM
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2014-05-26 01:55:08 PM

Hyjamon: Mugato: Hyjamon: I still don't understand the purpose of paying to graduate.

But they're still graduates, right, even if they don't get the piece of paper?

nope.  If you want to have a transcript that states "Degree Awarded: Associates in Basket Weaving"  then you need to pay the fee.

Or if you just put it on your resume and they called the school to confirm that your degree was conferred, the school would say "no"


School says "no", it's a FERPA violation unless the employee has a signed release.

And in most cases, the degree is already awarded, it's just the transcripts that are blocked, so if the school said no, it would be a lie, and open them up to a lawsuit.  For example, Minnesota State University says:  Unpaid Graduation Fee:  If the Graduation Fee is not paid, it will result in the diploma not being mailed.

Oh, and most employers won't go beyond the resume line anyway, unless the degree is a legal requirement for the job you're applying for.

And if you've completed all the academic requirements for the degree, then yes, despite having unpaid fees, you can legitimately claim to have earned the degree.
 
2014-05-26 02:05:14 PM

DarkVader: Hyjamon: Mugato: Hyjamon: I still don't understand the purpose of paying to graduate.

But they're still graduates, right, even if they don't get the piece of paper?

nope.  If you want to have a transcript that states "Degree Awarded: Associates in Basket Weaving"  then you need to pay the fee.

Or if you just put it on your resume and they called the school to confirm that your degree was conferred, the school would say "no"

School says "no", it's a FERPA violation unless the employee has a signed release.

And in most cases, the degree is already awarded, it's just the transcripts that are blocked, so if the school said no, it would be a lie, and open them up to a lawsuit.  For example, Minnesota State University says:  Unpaid Graduation Fee:  If the Graduation Fee is not paid, it will result in the diploma not being mailed.

Oh, and most employers won't go beyond the resume line anyway, unless the degree is a legal requirement for the job you're applying for.

And if you've completed all the academic requirements for the degree, then yes, despite having unpaid fees, you can legitimately claim to have earned the degree.


you are technically correct (the best kind) but claiming a degree and proving it are two different things.  So, it there would still be a fee to access the "duties, responsibilities and privileges" that come with the degree.  You can claim to have the degree, but a graduate school won't accept the claim without proof.  Employment in non-academic roles, you can probably get away with it (I doubt many ask for a transcript proving you are a college grad), unless there is some bonus for extra degrees/qualifications that you would need to prove.
 
2014-05-26 03:12:13 PM

grokca: Idiot, one month of Total Fark and she could have known everything.


Indeed.  Why, just the other day TFD gave me a TON of advice on what should be done about a hooker dying of sunstroke in the back of my car-- Something the university didn't bother to teach me.


Another time they helped identify how much was "too much" when it came to blood coming out of my ass.


/No, Drew is not paying me.
//But I'd take if if he offered.
 
2014-05-26 06:03:34 PM
Me, it's about $5k in bills from the last semester because my financial aid got screwed up, but I'm on disability, so it's not a pressing issue.  Still, at some point, when my car is running, and I've got a mattress that doesn't make my back sore I want to put some money towards it.
 
2014-05-26 09:52:40 PM

DarkVader: Hyjamon: Mugato: Hyjamon: I still don't understand the purpose of paying to graduate.

But they're still graduates, right, even if they don't get the piece of paper?

nope.  If you want to have a transcript that states "Degree Awarded: Associates in Basket Weaving"  then you need to pay the fee.

Or if you just put it on your resume and they called the school to confirm that your degree was conferred, the school would say "no"

School says "no", it's a FERPA violation unless the employee has a signed release.

And in most cases, the degree is already awarded, it's just the transcripts that are blocked, so if the school said no, it would be a lie, and open them up to a lawsuit.  For example, Minnesota State University says:  Unpaid Graduation Fee:  If the Graduation Fee is not paid, it will result in the diploma not being mailed.

Oh, and most employers won't go beyond the resume line anyway, unless the degree is a legal requirement for the job you're applying for.

And if you've completed all the academic requirements for the degree, then yes, despite having unpaid fees, you can legitimately claim to have earned the degree.


I don't think its a FERPA violation. Some bits of information are considered a part of the public record and I think at mist schools degree completion would be among them.

Of course I could be wrong (and often am). I don't particularly feel like refreshing my FERPA knowledge. Push comes to shove the school could tell an employer they need a written release. At which point they can share degree completion. If you have any holds (academic, or financial) the school would likely indicate that they can't share that information and that the student should contact the school.
 
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