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2014-05-26 01:12:09 AM  

grumpfuff: Whoa. What in the nine hells?


How did the post I submitted first, then cancelled, still here? And listed second, at that?


That's the magic of Fark, baby!
 
2014-05-26 01:14:47 AM  

Metastatic Capricorn: [upload.wikimedia.org image 220x220]


Do you have the original of that?
 
2014-05-26 01:25:36 AM  

The Bestest: grumpfuff: Whoa. What in the nine hells?

How did the post I submitted first, then cancelled, still here? And listed second, at that?

That's the magic of Fark, baby!


He's a wizard.
 
2014-05-26 01:27:41 AM  
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2014-05-26 01:32:04 AM  

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"Yeah, but Ukraine is still broke-ass sexual chocolate."

 
2014-05-26 01:49:00 AM  
So are they still in crisis or not?
 
2014-05-26 01:54:12 AM  

Gyrfalcon: So are they still in crisis or not?


The part about no places to vote in the east doesn't sound good.
 
2014-05-26 02:28:48 AM  
The Bestest:

Long version: it honestly doesn't matter as the separatists, particularly those in the eastern regions, don't recognize the election anyway, and as far as they are concerned, nothing has changed from yesterday to today.

The seperatists are for the most part just a gang, a handful who would normally just be ranting and committing the occasional crime and unable to do anything. Without russian backing they have nothing, only that support has emboldened them and made the authorities shrink from putting them away.. and it is quite possible that the russian backing is about to melt away if putin has decided the whole thing has achieved what he wants from it.
 
2014-05-26 02:46:35 AM  
Ukraine.  Sometimes you feel like a nut.  Sometimes you don't.
 
2014-05-26 02:49:23 AM  
The Chocolate Rain in the Ukraine is mainly on the plain.
 
2014-05-26 02:50:26 AM  
Ukraine: East Poland.
 
2014-05-26 03:35:47 AM  

gaspode: The Bestest:

Long version: it honestly doesn't matter as the separatists, particularly those in the eastern regions, don't recognize the election anyway, and as far as they are concerned, nothing has changed from yesterday to today.

The seperatists are for the most part just a gang, a handful who would normally just be ranting and committing the occasional crime and unable to do anything. Without russian backing they have nothing, only that support has emboldened them and made the authorities shrink from putting them away.. and it is quite possible that the russian backing is about to melt away if putin has decided the whole thing has achieved what he wants from it.


https://twitter.com/MiddleEast_BRK/status/470511779706339328/photo/1
https://twitter.com/novostidnua/status/470501865747406848/photo/1

Word is they're still shipping in irregulars.

Hey  The Bestest, what's your take on Tymoshenko's future?  My (very limited) knowledge of Ukrainian politics says apparently she and Poroshenko had a blood-feud going on a few years back, is he gonna try and stomp her like a rat or are they going to smile and shake hands while holding knives behind their backs?

I'm thinking the latter, since she offered concession and he needs all the help he can get right now.  But what the fark do I know?
 
2014-05-26 04:36:55 AM  
All was going fine in Odessa, a multicultured cosmopolitan port with a 30% Jewish population until the cossacks came and then the communists and then the nazis. And now this thing with the Russians. Won't people just let the Ukrainians be Ukrainian?
 
2014-05-26 04:47:08 AM  

Kevin72: All was going fine in Odessa, a multicultured cosmopolitan port with a 30% Jewish population until the cossacks came and then the communists and then the nazis. And now this thing with the Russians. Won't people just let the Ukrainians be Ukrainian?


No, because.
 
2014-05-26 04:56:34 AM  

Gyrfalcon: Kevin72: All was going fine in Odessa, a multicultured cosmopolitan port with a 30% Jewish population until the cossacks came and then the communists and then the nazis. And now this thing with the Russians. Won't people just let the Ukrainians be Ukrainian?

No, because.


9.4/10. Correct non-reply to unanswerable question: "No, because reasons". "No, because losers" "No, because whatever". Etc.
 
2014-05-26 05:01:24 AM  

digistil: No wonder the teahadists and Pootie were against a free Ukraine.


Has anyone from the Tea Party said they were against a free Ukraine?

Link or bullshiat?
 
2014-05-26 05:05:12 AM  

sobriquet by any other name: Metastatic Capricorn: [upload.wikimedia.org image 220x220]

Do you have the original of that?


snarkerati.com
 
2014-05-26 05:05:16 AM  

spawn73: digistil: No wonder the teahadists and Pootie were against a free Ukraine.

Has anyone from the Tea Party said they were against a free Ukraine?

Link or bullshiat?


I'm not sure if they said it, perhaps because they were too busy cheering for Putin.
 
2014-05-26 05:06:36 AM  

FormlessOne: So, can anyone summarize what this means, politically speaking, for Ukraine? All I see is that yet another election was purchased by an oligarch.


He'll sign that trade agreement with the EU, unlike their former president.

This will cause Russia to close their market to Ukraine, as they fell they can't compete with products from the EU (they can't, so thats true).

Maybe their new oligarch can export his chocolate to the EU then. But I kinda doubt it.

"Mmm, chocolate made in Ukraine..."
 
2014-05-26 06:56:57 AM  
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Subby, they're called Afro-Ukrainian.

and they're part of the Rhythm Nation

www.fashionculturalist.com
 
2014-05-26 06:59:16 AM  
Chocolate Ukraine

blogs.citypages.com
 
2014-05-26 07:36:12 AM  

spawn73: digistil: No wonder the teahadists and Pootie were against a free Ukraine.

Has anyone from the Tea Party said they were against a free Ukraine?

Link or bullshiat?


Aren't the people in the Tea Party looking for Ukraine near South Carolina, Alabama, or Florida?

/i keed, i keed...mostly ;p
 
2014-05-26 07:37:48 AM  
Why would a billionaire want to be president of a country. Why wouldn't they just install a figurehead like the US has done for years. Then, you don't have to have a giant target on your back all day.
 
2014-05-26 07:41:48 AM  
img.fark.net

Seen leaving the polls...
 
2014-05-26 08:56:37 AM  
www.nba.com
 
2014-05-26 08:59:08 AM  
i1301.photobucket.com
You still get Nothing!
 
2014-05-26 09:00:08 AM  

The Bestest: FormlessOne: So, can anyone summarize what this means, politically speaking, for Ukraine? All I see is that yet another election was purchased by an oligarch.

Short version: he's pro-Western, does not recognize the annexation of Crimea and will attempt to forge closer ties with Europe.
Long version: it honestly doesn't matter as the separatists, particularly those in the eastern regions, don't recognize the election anyway, and as far as they are concerned, nothing has changed from yesterday to today. What can be hoped is that the rest of Ukraine solidifies behind the results (with turnout around 40%, this is a stretch of a hope) so that the central gov't has internal AND external legitimacy again (a lot of this mess is due to the belief that the gov't formed after the ouster of the president was illegitimate) so that the clashes with separatists are more police-action-y and less civil-war-y.



Hot damn.   I hope the very first thing he does is reach out West somehow for some UN monitors or whatever he can get his hands on.  I'd like to see some pressure to the East before all that China pipeline stuff gets done.
 
2014-05-26 09:01:31 AM  

spawn73: FormlessOne: So, can anyone summarize what this means, politically speaking, for Ukraine? All I see is that yet another election was purchased by an oligarch.

He'll sign that trade agreement with the EU, unlike their former president.

This will cause Russia to close their market to Ukraine, as they fell they can't compete with products from the EU (they can't, so thats true).

Maybe their new oligarch can export his chocolate to the EU then. But I kinda doubt it.

"Mmm, chocolate made in Ukraine..."


No, they won't... Russia needs Ukraine more than Ukraine needs Russia, most of Russias Oil and Gas sales are to Europe, the pipelines all go through the Ukraine. This whole f'n thing was about lowering transit costs for Gazprom, Lukoil, and TNP and not much else.

location, location, location.
 
2014-05-26 09:04:28 AM  

The Bestest: What can be hoped is that the rest of Ukraine solidifies behind the results (with turnout around 40%, this is a stretch of a hope)


Today's NY Times reported the turnout at 60% - where did you get this 40% number?
 
2014-05-26 09:14:56 AM  
That's one way to get the Germans to invade help
 
2014-05-26 09:16:14 AM  

firefly212: spawn73: FormlessOne: So, can anyone summarize what this means, politically speaking, for Ukraine? All I see is that yet another election was purchased by an oligarch.

He'll sign that trade agreement with the EU, unlike their former president.

This will cause Russia to close their market to Ukraine, as they fell they can't compete with products from the EU (they can't, so thats true).

Maybe their new oligarch can export his chocolate to the EU then. But I kinda doubt it.

"Mmm, chocolate made in Ukraine..."

No, they won't... Russia needs Ukraine more than Ukraine needs Russia, most of Russias Oil and Gas sales are to Europe, the pipelines all go through the Ukraine. This whole f'n thing was about lowering transit costs for Gazprom, Lukoil, and TNP and not much else.

location, location, location.

 You're confusing things.
Russia will close their markets to Ukraine, they have stated that, and they have explained why.This means products from Ukraine, or entering through Ukraine won't have favorable terms on the Russian market.Gas has nothing to do with that. Why would it?
 
2014-05-26 09:19:55 AM  

Wooly Bully: The Bestest: What can be hoped is that the rest of Ukraine solidifies behind the results (with turnout around 40%, this is a stretch of a hope)

Today's NY Times reported the turnout at 60% - where did you get this 40% number?


Because the article states that the government election ministry reported 38% turnout around 2 or 3 in the afternoon. If they do polling the same way we do, they obviously had several more hours to vote. He likely just picked up on the figure from this article but missed the context.
 
2014-05-26 09:55:44 AM  
Putin better watch out.  Everyone knows the candyman can.
 
2014-05-26 10:24:08 AM  

TheBigJerk: what's your take on Tymoshenko's future?


I think that depends on her, really. If she's willing to actively promote the new gov't or simply walk off into the sunset, she'll be fine. If she (and her supporters) try to shoehorn their way in, she might end up marginalized.

Wooly Bully: Today's NY Times reported the turnout at 60% - where did you get this 40% number?


Much earlier reporting (not based on polling still being open, but "unofficial" results).
 
2014-05-26 10:32:50 AM  

NFA: Those Ukrainians love thems some Oligarchy.


We have no right to say that about anybody, ever.
 
2014-05-26 11:06:28 AM  

firefly212: the pipelines all go through the Ukraine.


Just like Chechnya. Just like what Soviet Afghanistan was supposed to be.

Looks like the Chinese has some pipelines to build.
 
2014-05-26 11:12:37 AM  
That weirdo loser with the tiny penis that killed those people says he watched Independence Day on TV in his house in 1996.

There's no way, unless his dad used his Hollywood connections to get a copy extremely in advance, when it was still playing in theaters.

The other thread was closed but I'm drinking and I wanted to say that. Since this post will definitely be deleted as off-topic anyway, I would like to also point out that today is the 13th anniversary of my Fark account
 
2014-05-26 01:47:39 PM  

Zmog: Chocolate Ukraine

[blogs.citypages.com image 225x225]


He stole the whole tune from U.N. Squadron.

Seriously.
 
2014-05-26 03:51:44 PM  

Wooly Bully: The Bestest: What can be hoped is that the rest of Ukraine solidifies behind the results (with turnout around 40%, this is a stretch of a hope)

Today's NY Times reported the turnout at 60% - where did you get this 40% number?


60%? Obviously neo-fascist nazi propoganda
 
2014-05-26 06:30:24 PM  

Kevin72: Gyrfalcon: Kevin72: All was going fine in Odessa, a multicultured cosmopolitan port with a 30% Jewish population until the cossacks came and then the communists and then the nazis. And now this thing with the Russians. Won't people just let the Ukrainians be Ukrainian?

No, because.

9.4/10. Correct non-reply to unanswerable question: "No, because reasons". "No, because losers" "No, because whatever". Etc.


On the off chance your question was serious, "No, because history."  Specifically the history that points out Ukraine literally means "borderland."  He flips east and west much to his shame and it's from 2 months ago but it's good.
 
2014-05-26 06:45:02 PM  

TheBigJerk: Kevin72: Gyrfalcon: Kevin72: All was going fine in Odessa, a multicultured cosmopolitan port with a 30% Jewish population until the cossacks came and then the communists and then the nazis. And now this thing with the Russians. Won't people just let the Ukrainians be Ukrainian?

No, because.

9.4/10. Correct non-reply to unanswerable question: "No, because reasons". "No, because losers" "No, because whatever". Etc.

On the off chance your question was serious, "No, because history."  Specifically the history that points out Ukraine literally means "borderland."  He flips east and west much to his shame and it's from 2 months ago but it's good.


10/10. A case made for "geography is destiny".
 
2014-05-26 06:49:29 PM  
2.bp.blogspot.com
Sorry I'm late to the thread, but let me tell you Americans something. When I was a child 20 + some years ago I had a vacation in Ukraine and I sampled a good amount of the local food that was targeted in my age group. The above picture is the result of a GIS for Ukrainian candy, and I see the candy isles haven't changed much. The fact is that I really-really hated local candy. They all come in shiny papers and as a child you look at them and you want to have as much of them as you can, but the fact is, you taste any one of them and it tastes like shiat. Then you go on and try the second kind and it also tastes like shiat. The third one too. The tenth kind too. Actually, they all taste like shiat - although a different kind of shiat - but you naively hope that the next one in the pretty paper that you see the first time will be *the one* that is good, and it makes you want to try every single one of them... I ended up with dozens of pretty papers (yeah I kept them for reference) and at the end I looked at them and I thought I was eating shiat all the time. This is how I learned that Ukrainians buy candy for their kids as a form of punishment.

So, my point is that the elections results mean that Ukrainians either never learn or they just like to eat shiat. Crazy.
 
2014-05-26 08:27:01 PM  
Oh, and according to a Russian news site: Valery Bolotoff, self-proclaimed head of the People's Republic of Lugansk, and Denis Pushilin, self-proclaimed head of the People's Republic of Donetsk are having a Monty Python moment. They declared war on each other.

Google translate Link
 
2014-05-27 01:19:08 AM  

traylor: [2.bp.blogspot.com image 850x637]
Sorry I'm late to the thread, but let me tell you Americans something. When I was a child 20 + some years ago I had a vacation in Ukraine and I sampled a good amount of the local food that was targeted in my age group. The above picture is the result of a GIS for Ukrainian candy, and I see the candy isles haven't changed much. The fact is that I really-really hated local candy. They all come in shiny papers and as a child you look at them and you want to have as much of them as you can, but the fact is, you taste any one of them and it tastes like shiat. Then you go on and try the second kind and it also tastes like shiat. The third one too. The tenth kind too. Actually, they all taste like shiat - although a different kind of shiat - but you naively hope that the next one in the pretty paper that you see the first time will be *the one* that is good, and it makes you want to try every single one of them... I ended up with dozens of pretty papers (yeah I kept them for reference) and at the end I looked at them and I thought I was eating shiat all the time. This is how I learned that Ukrainians buy candy for their kids as a form of punishment.

So, my point is that the elections results mean that Ukrainians either never learn or they just like to eat shiat. Crazy.


That kind of candy sucks, but most other sweet Russian/Ukrainian things, like bar chocolate, cake, and ice cream are world class.
 
Esn
2014-05-27 08:42:15 AM  

firefly212: spawn73: FormlessOne: So, can anyone summarize what this means, politically speaking, for Ukraine? All I see is that yet another election was purchased by an oligarch.

He'll sign that trade agreement with the EU, unlike their former president.

This will cause Russia to close their market to Ukraine, as they fell they can't compete with products from the EU (they can't, so thats true).

Maybe their new oligarch can export his chocolate to the EU then. But I kinda doubt it.

"Mmm, chocolate made in Ukraine..."

No, they won't... Russia needs Ukraine more than Ukraine needs Russia, most of Russias Oil and Gas sales are to Europe, the pipelines all go through the Ukraine. This whole f'n thing was about lowering transit costs for Gazprom, Lukoil, and TNP and not much else.

location, location, location.


Ukraine used to be vital. Now, one pipeline goes through Belarus, another goes under the sea direct to Germany. Another to be finished in 2018 will go under the sea to Bulgaria. There is also the pipeline to China, per the recently-signed deal. Ukraine will continue to be important, but it will be less and less important as time goes by. Russia is really interested in two major things from Ukraine: the security of its naval base in Crimea (which has been achieved), and preventing Ukraine from entering NATO (who knows...). I really doubt that Russia wants a civil war on its borders, but if it's that or NATO, they'll take the civil war.
 
2014-05-27 09:20:11 AM  

Esn: Russia is really interested in two major things from Ukraine: the security of its naval base in Crimea (which has been achieved),


The security of the Russian naval base in Crimea was never threatened; that was just part of Putin's propaganda campaign to justify his illegal annexation of Crimea.

Esn: I really doubt that Russia wants a civil war on its borders


50 "separatist" militia members were killed just yesterday in heavy fighting to retake an airport they'd seized. This may not qualify as "civil war", but it's ludicrous to suggest Russia wasn't backing the so-called separatists.
 
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