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2014-05-25 08:37:12 PM  
Some of those places are OK if they have good drink specials.
 
2014-05-25 09:24:44 PM  
I'm no foodie, but I agree with pretty much the whole list, with the exception of Red Lobster and Olive Garden. I know I've been to those places, but I can't remember what their food tastes like. There are just too many great seafood and italian restaurants around here, so no one ever says, "hey let's go there."
 
2014-05-25 09:30:25 PM  
I always enjoy getting drunk and thrown out of Applebee's.

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2014-05-25 09:35:41 PM  
Meh, I can handle Panda Express every now and then.  It's just fast food, but in a pinch, it's different.
 
2014-05-25 09:44:48 PM  
All of those places suck rhino taint. Now we need a boxed wine biatchapalooza.
 
2014-05-25 09:55:16 PM  
It's beyond me why anyone would care where and what other people eat.

And I was a chef for a living.
 
2014-05-25 09:58:34 PM  

lindalouwho: It's beyond me why anyone would care where and what other people eat.

And I was a chef for a living.


I hope you cared what other people ate WHILE you were a chef ;-)
 
2014-05-25 10:05:44 PM  

Mitch Taylor's Bro: lindalouwho: It's beyond me why anyone would care where and what other people eat.

And I was a chef for a living.

I hope you cared what other people ate WHILE you were a chef ;-)


Certamente!

/nice catch
 
2014-05-25 10:19:54 PM  
I like chilis
 
2014-05-25 10:20:58 PM  

Mitch Taylor's Bro: lindalouwho: It's beyond me why anyone would care where and what other people eat.

And I was a chef for a living.

I hope you cared what other people ate WHILE you were a chef ;-)


Give her a break, she's no more than two.

Answer to original question:
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2014-05-25 10:21:17 PM  
Deslidified or not, it's not news, it's Fark.
 
2014-05-25 10:28:57 PM  

vossiewulf: Mitch Taylor's Bro: lindalouwho: It's beyond me why anyone would care where and what other people eat.

And I was a chef for a living.

I hope you cared what other people ate WHILE you were a chef ;-)

Give her a break, she's no more than two.

Answer to original question:
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Do you honestly "like" any of those restaurants? I mean, if I'm hungry enough, and there's nothing else around, I'll go to those places. But I live in a region where better options are everywhere.
 
2014-05-25 10:36:45 PM  
What's this guy's obsession with "overcooking"?
 
2014-05-25 10:54:34 PM  
That had to have been written by a Farker. The only thing missing was a diarrhea remark or two.
 
2014-05-25 10:54:48 PM  
Panda Express and sbarro are restaurants?  I always considered them food court fast food.
 
2014-05-25 10:57:15 PM  
Panda Express is awesome. It's like the movie Constantine. As long as you go in knowing what it is, and not expecting something truly "authentic," then you're going to be all right.
 
2014-05-25 10:59:10 PM  
So you can actually make a living writing about how chain restaurants suck?

Huh.
 
2014-05-25 11:00:47 PM  

vossiewulf: Mitch Taylor's Bro: lindalouwho: It's beyond me why anyone would care where and what other people eat.

And I was a chef for a living.

I hope you cared what other people ate WHILE you were a chef ;-)

Give her a break, she's no more than two.

Answer to original question:


You don't see how that meme can be turned right back on you? ;-)
 
2014-05-25 11:00:53 PM  
One doesn't have to be a foodie in order to realize that there's far better food out there than Red Lobster and Olive Garden.

/and no, I didn't even bother with the rest of your list
//blech
 
2014-05-25 11:02:06 PM  
I find it annoying that TFA kept saying "You could just stay home and make it in your own kitchen" as if going to a restaurant weren't something you do because you DON'T FEEL LIKE COOKING TONIGHT or DON'T WANT TO COOK FOR A LARGE GROUP.
 
2014-05-25 11:02:38 PM  
But the Southwestern Pizza Flingers are Awesomely Outrageous!
 
2014-05-25 11:04:49 PM  

lindalouwho: It's beyond me why anyone would care where and what other people eat.


I don't really, but it's amusing to argue about pointless things sometimes, especially when it takes your mind off real issues.
 
2014-05-25 11:05:09 PM  

Fart_Machine: Panda Express and sbarro are restaurants?  I always considered them food court fast food.


These may not be near you but they do exist and are expanding.
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2014-05-25 11:08:06 PM  
I like Panda Express, there are better places but it really isn't bad food.
 
2014-05-25 11:09:03 PM  

Mitch Taylor's Bro: Do you honestly "like" any of those restaurants? I mean, if I'm hungry enough, and there's nothing else around, I'll go to those places. But I live in a region where better options are everywhere.


Not really like per se, but they're ok, like you said, when there's nothing else around.  I have to admit I actually seek out an On the Border once in a while, so I really can't criticize what anyone else eats.
 
2014-05-25 11:10:13 PM  
I don't know why people dis Olive Garden. I made their "Stuffed Chicken Marsala" recipe this weekend and it was awesome. I also make the Cheddar Bay Biscuits from Red Lobster. What's not to love?
 
2014-05-25 11:11:43 PM  
I've never had a bad applebees experience. I'm just an asshole like that
 
2014-05-25 11:12:21 PM  

ciberido: Mitch Taylor's Bro: Do you honestly "like" any of those restaurants? I mean, if I'm hungry enough, and there's nothing else around, I'll go to those places. But I live in a region where better options are everywhere.

Not really like per se, but they're ok, like you said, when there's nothing else around.  I have to admit I actually seek out an On the Border once in a while, so I really can't criticize what anyone else eats.


Speaking of On the Border, I need to get their salsa recipe and make that at home too, it is delicious!
 
2014-05-25 11:13:01 PM  
With the exception of the local grill-less Chili's, I miss being able to go to every single place on that list.  Food here sucks.  I farking crave Olive Garden, Applebee's, and Red Lobster; and I'm stuck with an unsanitary and disgusting Denny's, and an even worse Chili's.
 
2014-05-25 11:13:26 PM  

Witness99: I don't know why people dis Olive Garden. I made their "Stuffed Chicken Marsala" recipe this weekend and it was awesome. I also make the Cheddar Bay Biscuits from Red Lobster. What's not to love?


They are too expensive for the author.  Maybe he'll review Jimmy Johns for his next article.
 
2014-05-25 11:15:37 PM  

MNguy: Witness99: I don't know why people dis Olive Garden. I made their "Stuffed Chicken Marsala" recipe this weekend and it was awesome. I also make the Cheddar Bay Biscuits from Red Lobster. What's not to love?

They are too expensive for the author.  Maybe he'll review Jimmy Johns for his next article.


And compare it to a Publix made deli sub.
 
2014-05-25 11:16:19 PM  
Way to go after low-hanging fruit, article author.
 
2014-05-25 11:17:07 PM  

ciberido: lindalouwho: It's beyond me why anyone would care where and what other people eat.

I don't really, but it's amusing to argue about pointless things sometimes, especially when it takes your mind off real issues.


Ah, yes. Good point!
 
2014-05-25 11:18:21 PM  

lindalouwho: It's beyond me why anyone would care where and what other people eat.


I care because sometimes the fact that other people think that those places aren't awful leads me to eat at those places. Some of these are relatively innocuous because, at the very least, they're cheap. Red Lobster gets a special hatred because it's not even cheap. Maybe cheap for seafood, but it's not cheap. I'd rather go to farking Denny's. Sure, it still sucks, but it sucks at 1/3 the price.
 
2014-05-25 11:18:51 PM  
I only like 2 of those places, Chili's and Olive Garden, and really only go to 1, Olive Garden. Like the author said, the breadsticks and salad are great. If you get a good waitrress that will let you mix and match things off the menu, it can be a great meal for the $15 you're spending.
 
2014-05-25 11:19:11 PM  
I eat at Applebee's once a year: when it's free.

I eat at Red Lobster or Olive Garden when someone else chooses and is paying.

Otherwise, I don't eat fast food with the exception of the rare, once every other month or so pizza (and yes, I consider both Olive Garden and Red Lobster to be fast food. Anytime Italian or seafood can be at your table in 15 minutes, that's fast food in my opinion). I call it 'stuff pretending to be food.'
 
2014-05-25 11:19:51 PM  
it's been awhile since i've been there, but olive garden's endless salads were awesome once upon a time.

/not a foodie.
//but, the rest of those places pretty much suck, imo.
 
2014-05-25 11:20:49 PM  

Witness99: I don't know why people dis Olive Garden. I made their "Stuffed Chicken Marsala" recipe this weekend and it was awesome. I also make the Cheddar Bay Biscuits from Red Lobster. What's not to love?


I've eaten at Olive Garden twice. The second time I went because i figured that there was no way it was as bad as I remembered it. But it was. Even the bread sticks were salty and disgusting.
 
2014-05-25 11:21:17 PM  

vossiewulf: Mitch Taylor's Bro: lindalouwho: It's beyond me why anyone would care where and what other people eat.

And I was a chef for a living.

I hope you cared what other people ate WHILE you were a chef ;-)

Give her a break, she's no more than two.

Answer to original question:
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You're thinking of Cindy.

/amazed no one else caught that
 
2014-05-25 11:21:38 PM  
I have never not been sick after Olive Garden. Would add Hooters to that list, but I suppose the first criterium is that food is served.
 
2014-05-25 11:22:58 PM  

soporific: Panda Express is awesome. It's like the movie Constantine. As long as you go in knowing what it is, and not expecting something truly "authentic," then you're going to be all right.


Ha i love that movie
 
2014-05-25 11:23:22 PM  

baka-san: I like chilis


I do too.  To be fair though their food used to be much better 20 years ago.  At least when they were franchised to the East Coast where I live which was about 20 years ago.

/Got carry out yesterday and their menu has changed a lot
 
2014-05-25 11:24:27 PM  

Nix Nightbird: I find it annoying that TFA kept saying "You could just stay home and make it in your own kitchen" as if going to a restaurant weren't something you do because you DON'T FEEL LIKE COOKING TONIGHT or DON'T WANT TO COOK FOR A LARGE GROUP.


It's not always.

The author is implicitly dividing all restaurants into two categories: those where you couldn't hope to make what was on the menu there in your own kitchen (and have it coming out tasting as good or better), and those where the food is no better than or different from what you could make yourself at home.

In general, really good restaurants fall into the first category, and restaurants that are bad or mediocre fall into the latter.  There are other considerations, however; for example, you might love Indian food, but lack the slightest idea of how to cook it at home.  Then ANY Indian restaurant would fall into the first category.

I make a pretty decent meatloaf, for example, but I couldn't make a kofta if my life depended on it.  If I felt like meatloaf, I could stay at home and bake my own, or I could go out to a Golden Corral and order one.  I don't have that option with kofta.
 
2014-05-25 11:24:39 PM  
I ate at Applebee's several times while I was working in North Dakota. They had double captain and cokes for the price of a single on Tuesdays. Plus the food was consistently full of fat and high in sodium. Perfect when dining while working out of town.
 
2014-05-25 11:25:03 PM  

Aigoo: I eat at Applebee's once a year: when it's free.

I eat at Red Lobster or Olive Garden when someone else chooses and is paying.

Otherwise, I don't eat fast food with the exception of the rare, once every other month or so pizza (and yes, I consider both Olive Garden and Red Lobster to be fast food. Anytime Italian or seafood can be at your table in 15 minutes, that's fast food in my opinion). I call it 'stuff pretending to be food.'


Newsletter subscription information please?
 
2014-05-25 11:27:08 PM  
Red Lobster is as good as any other non-ocean front seafood joint.
 
2014-05-25 11:27:40 PM  
I agree, all of those places suck. There are much better restaurants out there, but people make their own choices.

The shock of that list for me was that Planet Hollywood and Hard Rock Cafe are still open and people still go to them.
 
2014-05-25 11:32:33 PM  

pngwnpwr: Red Lobster is as good as any other non-ocean front seafood joint.


pretty much
 
2014-05-25 11:32:48 PM  

grumpfuff: vossiewulf: Mitch Taylor's Bro: lindalouwho: It's beyond me why anyone would care where and what other people eat.

And I was a chef for a living.

I hope you cared what other people ate WHILE you were a chef ;-)

Give her a break, she's no more than two.

Answer to original question:
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You're thinking of Cindy.

/amazed no one else caught that


Hells bells.

Obviously even I didn't catch it.

*facepalm*

/apologies to vossiewulf
//boy is my face red
 
2014-05-25 11:38:02 PM  

pngwnpwr: Red Lobster is as good as any other non-ocean front seafood joint.


I am so very sorry that your local seafood joint has been vomiting on your food.
 
2014-05-25 11:39:58 PM  
I love spending all day in the kitchen (seriously), so I agree with most of this list.

Yet, TGI Fridays makes a fantastic artichoke dip, except they give you about 4,000 chips and a shot glass of dip, so it doesn't work out so well.
 
2014-05-25 11:40:13 PM  

ciberido: Mitch Taylor's Bro: Do you honestly "like" any of those restaurants? I mean, if I'm hungry enough, and there's nothing else around, I'll go to those places. But I live in a region where better options are everywhere.

Not really like per se, but they're ok, like you said, when there's nothing else around.  I have to admit I actually seek out an On the Border once in a while, so I really can't criticize what anyone else eats.


Heh, my secret shame is Jack in the Box, so like I said earlier: "I'm no foodie."

grumpfuff: You're thinking of Cindy.

/amazed no one else caught that


Ha, went right over my head!
 
2014-05-25 11:45:04 PM  
Meh. They all have their place, I guess. What I really hate is foodies.
 
2014-05-25 11:48:09 PM  

Aigoo: (and yes, I consider both Olive Garden and Red Lobster to be fast food. Anytime Italian or seafood can be at your table in 15 minutes, that's fast food in my opinion)


exactly how long should seafood be cooked in your opinion? do you prefer your shrimp and crab legs to be simmered all day?
 
2014-05-25 11:48:51 PM  
I concur.

There are a lot of crappy restaurants out there that don't see themselves as crappy.

There must be a lot of people with very low dining expectations.
 
2014-05-25 11:51:07 PM  
You know what else sucks? McDonald's, KFC, Taco Bell, etc.

But they don't serve alcohol or have table service.

Other than that difference, all shiat restaurants are shiat.

Shocking.
 
2014-05-25 11:52:04 PM  
Red Lobster actually not a bad choice if your watching what you eat. Just stick to the grilled fish and pair it with broccoli and a salad. Avoid the biscuits also.
 
2014-05-25 11:54:52 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: One doesn't have to be a foodie in order to realize that there's far better food out there than Red Lobster and Olive Garden.

/and no, I didn't even bother with the rest of your list
//blech


Fun fact: both those chains are owned by the same company, Darden. And RL is apparently been so disappointing earnings-wise they're looking to sell it off.
 
2014-05-25 11:56:39 PM  
This article seems to be saying, "Chain restaurants suck and you suck for liking them".

Fark you article, chain restaurants make money because they serve the lowest common denominator of people. People like that shiat and eat there and they make money. Sure "foodies" hate chain restaurants, but farking foodies are complete idiots.

A "foodie" waitress told me to order my veggie ommlette with sausage, before she told me she was a foodie. Foodies in New York eat at a shiatty deep dish Chicago restaurant, and think it's cool.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/13/chicago-style-deep-dish-piz za _n_4958484.html

Farking "Foodie" means exactly farking nothing except that you like food, and like to "explore" food. I went to McDonalds and asked for extra onions on my McDouble, I'm a badass foodie biatches. Deal with it.
 
2014-05-25 11:57:47 PM  
I appreciate a good meal but I'm not super picky. As long as the place is clean, the food is fresh, and they have a well run kitchen I'll eat there. Generally I've found if the front of the house isn't tidy then the kitchen probably isn't either and it's best to skip the place because you're not going to get a good meal.

Did not see Cheesecake Factory on that list. Over hyped, way overpriced food.
/was not impressed
 
2014-05-25 11:59:21 PM  

Mitch Taylor's Bro: vossiewulf: Mitch Taylor's Bro: lindalouwho: It's beyond me why anyone would care where and what other people eat.

And I was a chef for a living.

I hope you cared what other people ate WHILE you were a chef ;-)

Give her a break, she's no more than two.

Answer to original question:
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Do you honestly "like" any of those restaurants? I mean, if I'm hungry enough, and there's nothing else around, I'll go to those places. But I live in a region where better options are everywhere.


Obviously LOTS of people like "those places" or they wouldn't be in business. How is that difficult to understand?
 
2014-05-26 12:00:20 AM  

12349876: Fart_Machine: Panda Express and sbarro are restaurants?  I always considered them food court fast food.

These may not be near you but they do exist and are expanding.
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There is a stand alone Panda in my locale and it is decent. Not fantastic but certainly edible. I agreed with all the others on the list, through.
 
2014-05-26 12:02:43 AM  
wambu:

There must be a lot of people with very low dining expectations.

Yes, the saddest part however is that they go to Trip Advisor or Yelp and give such places five star reviews.

:-(
 
2014-05-26 12:03:31 AM  
Meh. Food is energy. Any of those places will keep me from running out of gas and tipping over. That's all I really ask.
 
2014-05-26 12:03:31 AM  

ciberido: Nix Nightbird: I find it annoying that TFA kept saying "You could just stay home and make it in your own kitchen" as if going to a restaurant weren't something you do because you DON'T FEEL LIKE COOKING TONIGHT or DON'T WANT TO COOK FOR A LARGE GROUP.

It's not always.

The author is implicitly dividing all restaurants into two categories: those where you couldn't hope to make what was on the menu there in your own kitchen (and have it coming out tasting as good or better), and those where the food is no better than or different from what you could make yourself at home.

In general, really good restaurants fall into the first category, and restaurants that are bad or mediocre fall into the latter.  There are other considerations, however; for example, you might love Indian food, but lack the slightest idea of how to cook it at home.  Then ANY Indian restaurant would fall into the first category.

I make a pretty decent meatloaf, for example, but I couldn't make a kofta if my life depended on it.  If I felt like meatloaf, I could stay at home and bake my own, or I could go out to a Golden Corral and order one.  I don't have that option with kofta.


Kofta is one of the easiest "ethnic" things to make. The hard part is getting ground lamb. Everything else is common and easy and take very little time. Hell, I've been lazy/cheap and just used plain old ground beef, and it's still pretty good (just go for higher fat, like 80/20 at least).
 
2014-05-26 12:04:54 AM  

FarkingReading: You know what else sucks? McDonald's, KFC, Taco Bell, etc.

But they don't serve alcohol or have table service.

Other than that difference, all shiat restaurants are shiat.

Shocking.


I like Taco Bell. It's my not so guilty pleasure.
 
2014-05-26 12:05:25 AM  

Mid_mo_mad_man: Red Lobster actually not a bad choice if your watching what you eat. Just stick to the grilled fish and pair it with broccoli and a salad. Avoid the biscuits also.


They would be my only reason for wanting to go.
 
2014-05-26 12:07:56 AM  

grumpfuff: vossiewulf: Mitch Taylor's Bro: lindalouwho: It's beyond me why anyone would care where and what other people eat.

And I was a chef for a living.

I hope you cared what other people ate WHILE you were a chef ;-)

Give her a break, she's no more than two.

Answer to original question:
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You're thinking of Cindy.

/amazed no one else caught that


I got that it was a reference to The Grinch Who Stole Christmas, but I couldn't remember the name exactly.
 
2014-05-26 12:08:09 AM  
Panda Express I'll eat sometimes, but it's like the Taco Bell of Chinese food. Don't expect anything remotely like authentic Chinese food, and you won't be too disappointed.
 
2014-05-26 12:08:37 AM  
Eh. I would eat at all of those places, if there weren't a better place to eat that serves the same stuff just down the block from each of them.
 
2014-05-26 12:11:34 AM  
I don't mind Panda as I'm not a huge Chinese food fan. Only time I hit up Golden Corral is for the breakfast buffet as I love breakfast buffets.

/shower the hate
 
2014-05-26 12:12:18 AM  
Hard Rock Cafe is still in business?

Except for Sbarro I could find something at any of these. I hate really overpriced mediocre food. Morton's comes to mind.
 
2014-05-26 12:12:42 AM  
Chilis chips and salsa. I can't help it. I just love it so much.
 
2014-05-26 12:12:44 AM  
Hey now, these places aren't first rate but when you're farking starving you can't beat hitting applebees during happy hour, getting two appetizers and two beers and being gone (with a decent tip) for $20.

food is food, sustenance is sustenance. I like good food, but sometimes a man had just got to eat.
 
2014-05-26 12:13:06 AM  
Look, sometimes a girl just wants some coconut shrimp with that tasty-ass pineapple dipping stuff. And cheddar biscuits.

/Olive Garden gives me the poos
 
2014-05-26 12:14:17 AM  

ciberido: grumpfuff: vossiewulf: Mitch Taylor's Bro: lindalouwho: It's beyond me why anyone would care where and what other people eat.

And I was a chef for a living.

I hope you cared what other people ate WHILE you were a chef ;-)

Give her a break, she's no more than two.

Answer to original question:
[img.4plebs.org image 350x377]


You're thinking of Cindy.

/amazed no one else caught that

I got that it was a reference to The Grinch Who Stole Christmas, but I couldn't remember the name exactly.


Well, Dr. Seuss is probably second only to Mr. Rogers in terms of my childhood heroes. That and the "amazed" part was mostly referring to (red-faced) linda.
 
2014-05-26 12:14:44 AM  
I thought planet hollywood went out of business
 
2014-05-26 12:15:32 AM  

lindalouwho: It's beyond me why anyone would care where and what other people eat.

And I was a chef for a living.


B/c sometimes you really like a small, well run restaurant that for whatever reason doesn't work (dumb nephew accountant, crazy landlord, etc), and then a stupid awful chain place moves in instead. Where my parents still live, they've seen a couple of great restaurants close (retirement/landlord is insane) and multiple chain burger places move in. There's a few blocks that are almost only hamburger restaurants. A great old deli goes away and a Subway takes its place. The Free Market is great if you don't mind the lowest common denominator. And w/ the deteriorating middle class, that's all that's going to be left; ultra cheap garbage food, or the fanciest restaurants you can think of. Hell, Red Lobster is in that middle zone and is dying, hard.
 
2014-05-26 12:17:56 AM  

Trocadero: ciberido: I make a pretty decent meatloaf, for example, but I couldn't make a kofta if my life depended on it.  If I felt like meatloaf, I could stay at home and bake my own, or I could go out to a Golden Corral and order one.  I don't have that option with kofta.

Kofta is one of the easiest "ethnic" things to make. The hard part is getting ground lamb. Everything else is common and easy and take very little time. Hell, I've been lazy/cheap and just used plain old ground beef, and it's still pretty good (just go for higher fat, like 80/20 at least).


Um... you realize that there are about a million different foods called "kofta," right?  Not all of them contain lamb.  Not all of them even contain meat at all.

Even if the particular kofta you're thinking of is very easy to make, that doesn't mean that the one I want is.
 
2014-05-26 12:18:39 AM  
Chain restaurants are harmless, unless you're watching your sodium intake. The food is nothing special, but they can simply be that quick and easy place to grab a meal to get out for a couple of hours. Having said that, I don't think I've been to a chain restaurant intentionally in years. There are plenty of local places that I'd much rather spend my money at.
 
2014-05-26 12:19:21 AM  
I feel better about myself when I look down on other people that do things that have absolutely no effect on me. AND I don't even own a TV.
 
2014-05-26 12:20:16 AM  
I think people say "foodie" because it's close enough to "fattie" without actually saying "fat".
 
2014-05-26 12:20:21 AM  
What always makes me scratch my head is that if you go on vacation to a beach town, you will see places like Red Lobster or Olive Garden packed. Then you see a local joint across the street named something like Pirate Jack's half full. Yeah, I would travel 1500 miles to eat in the same shiat hole I could eat less than a mile from at home, but never do.
 
2014-05-26 12:21:59 AM  
Olive Garden and TGIFridays are the wurst
 
2014-05-26 12:22:35 AM  

fusillade762: The My Little Pony Killer: One doesn't have to be a foodie in order to realize that there's far better food out there than Red Lobster and Olive Garden.

/and no, I didn't even bother with the rest of your list
//blech

Fun fact: both those chains are owned by the same company, Darden. And RL is apparently been so disappointing earnings-wise they're looking to sell it off.


Golden Gate Capital of San Francisco bought RL 4-5 days ago. If you like drama in your business section you should check out some of the stories. The Darden shareholders are freaking out.
 
2014-05-26 12:24:53 AM  

99.998er: What always makes me scratch my head is that if you go on vacation to a beach town, you will see places like Red Lobster or Olive Garden packed. Then you see a local joint across the street named something like Pirate Jack's half full. Yeah, I would travel 1500 miles to eat in the same shiat hole I could eat less than a mile from at home, but never do.


Yep. Red Lobster started out in Florida.
 
2014-05-26 12:27:41 AM  

grumpfuff: ciberido: grumpfuff: vossiewulf: Mitch Taylor's Bro: lindalouwho: It's beyond me why anyone would care where and what other people eat.

And I was a chef for a living.

I hope you cared what other people ate WHILE you were a chef ;-)

Give her a break, she's no more than two.

Answer to original question:
[img.4plebs.org image 350x377]


You're thinking of Cindy.

/amazed no one else caught that

I got that it was a reference to The Grinch Who Stole Christmas, but I couldn't remember the name exactly.

Well, Dr. Seuss is probably second only to Mr. Rogers in terms of my childhood heroes. That and the "amazed" part was mostly referring to (red-faced) linda.


If I ever miss a Mr. Rogers reference, just shoot me. I'm a Pittsburgher.
 
2014-05-26 12:29:12 AM  

99.998er: What always makes me scratch my head is that if you go on vacation to a beach town, you will see places like Red Lobster or Olive Garden packed. Then you see a local joint across the street named something like Pirate Jack's half full. Yeah, I would travel 1500 miles to eat in the same shiat hole I could eat less than a mile from at home, but never do.


Some people just don't care about quality food.  That being said, the place called Pirate Jack's could be a tourist trap and even worse than Red Lobster.  With Yelp and various forums it is getting a lot easier to find good places even in touristy areas without having to have a local clue you in though.
 
2014-05-26 12:33:37 AM  

Rev. Skarekroe: What's this guy's obsession with "overcooking"?


He made a list of places who mostly microwave precooked food. Chances are the food will be over cooked.
 
2014-05-26 12:34:25 AM  
Jeeze, there sure are a lot of spoiled snooty farkers in this thread! For people like myself that live in shiatty/rural areas of the country (I live in the San Joaquin Valley), Olive Garden IS often the best Italian food you can get. There is one Olive Garden in a town about 20 miles from me. It opened maybe 15 years ago. There is ALWAYS at least a 15-30 min wait. On Fri night/Sat/Sun, the wait is usually an hour; holidays, just forget it. I got my wife takeout from there one Valentines Day (she was in the hospital with our newborn son, and it's what she wanted), and the line at the restaurant to pick up an order that had been called in 45 min earlier was out the door, an hour and a half! To pick up! Yes, their breadsticks are too salty, but I don't know anyone around here that doesn't like their food and doesn't consider them a rather upscale option for dining out.

I totally agree with the article list of blurbs that Applebee's, TGIFriday's, Golden Corral, Planet Hollywood, and Hard Rock Cafe are terrible.

Red Lobster sucks except for the biscuits, as has been said. I usually just get a large salad to go with them.

Panda Express is Chinese fast food. I consider it in the same class as a Carl's Jr. or El Pollo Loco, just a different drive-thru option, if a bit more expensive. The food isn't bad for what it is, and it's one of the rare drive-thru places where you can get a ton of veggies in your meal.

My wife and I always remarked to each other that Sbarro looked and smelled better than any other mall food court place, but invariably tasted the worst. I thought the chain went bankrupt; I haven't seen one in a few years.
 
2014-05-26 12:35:59 AM  

TuteTibiImperes: 99.998er: What always makes me scratch my head is that if you go on vacation to a beach town, you will see places like Red Lobster or Olive Garden packed. Then you see a local joint across the street named something like Pirate Jack's half full. Yeah, I would travel 1500 miles to eat in the same shiat hole I could eat less than a mile from at home, but never do.

Some people just don't care about quality food.  That being said, the place called Pirate Jack's could be a tourist trap and even worse than Red Lobster.  With Yelp and various forums it is getting a lot easier to find good places even in touristy areas without having to have a local clue you in though.


If I am unfamiliar with the area I will ask the locals first,concierge second. Concierges can be paid off, but usually they are straight up.
 
2014-05-26 12:38:18 AM  

lindalouwho: fusillade762: The My Little Pony Killer: One doesn't have to be a foodie in order to realize that there's far better food out there than Red Lobster and Olive Garden.

/and no, I didn't even bother with the rest of your list
//blech

Fun fact: both those chains are owned by the same company, Darden. And RL is apparently been so disappointing earnings-wise they're looking to sell it off.

Golden Gate Capital of San Francisco bought RL 4-5 days ago. If you like drama in your business section you should check out some of the stories. The Darden shareholders are freaking out.


Those stories usually bore me but the Red Lobster one seemed odd. Darden "sold" RL to one of these outfit's like Romney's Bane Capital. The price was something like 2.6 billion but the capital shop then immediately recovered 2.5 billion by selling some RL real estate.
 
2014-05-26 12:38:24 AM  

Witness99: I don't know why people dis Olive Garden. I made their "Stuffed Chicken Marsala" recipe this weekend and it was awesome. I also make the Cheddar Bay Biscuits from Red Lobster. What's not to love?


Because the stuff they give away for free isn't supposed to count. I wonder if that's an intentional formula though. McDs sucks, but fries. Red Lobster is eh but biscuit yum. Olive Garden ew but bread sticks yay.
 
2014-05-26 12:43:31 AM  

TuteTibiImperes: 99.998er: What always makes me scratch my head is that if you go on vacation to a beach town, you will see places like Red Lobster or Olive Garden packed. Then you see a local joint across the street named something like Pirate Jack's half full. Yeah, I would travel 1500 miles to eat in the same shiat hole I could eat less than a mile from at home, but never do.

Some people just don't care about quality food.  That being said, the place called Pirate Jack's could be a tourist trap and even worse than Red Lobster.  With Yelp and various forums it is getting a lot easier to find good places even in touristy areas without having to have a local clue you in though.


That and some people go to those places for the specials.  I dated a girl from a huge, poor family who always went to Olive Garden when they went out to eat.  Eventually I asked why they always went there and she told me it was because the "endless bread sticks and bottomless salad" for something like $2.99.  If you have to fill nine stomachs for 30 bucks, you could do worse I imagine.  I'd hate to be that waiter though.
 
2014-05-26 12:44:11 AM  
That's a surprisingly accurate list.

I used to love Chili's back in the day, now I find them way too salty.
I'll eat at the Panda Garden 2 blocks from my house on a rare occasion.

I have no intention on ever going to any of the other 8.
 
2014-05-26 12:45:08 AM  

Krieghund: I have no intention on ever going to any of the other 8.


going *back to* any other the other 8. I've tried them all, and found them all 'meh'.
 
2014-05-26 12:47:05 AM  

lindalouwho: It's beyond me why anyone would care where and what other people eat.

And I was a chef for a living.


People with jobs and/or friends sometimes find themselves eating at a restaurant that someone else has selected.

Or so I'm told.
 
2014-05-26 12:47:23 AM  
Chilis is okay, and the drinks (margaritas) are good.  It's overpriced, but then most restaurants are these days.  Plus we don't always feel like cooking / eating at home.
 
2014-05-26 12:48:49 AM  

Krieghund: Krieghund: I have no intention on ever going to any of the other 8.

going *back to* any other the other 8. I've tried them all, and found them all 'meh'.


Friday's used to make a pretty solid burger, and they'd cook it medium rare, so that was a plus.  Maybe they still do, but I haven't been to one in ages. They a also used to have cut up rings of jalapeño coated in corn meal and then deep fried, sort of like fried okra but with jalapeños instead, those were good.
 
2014-05-26 12:51:41 AM  
Life is too short to eat at chain restaurants.
 
2014-05-26 12:51:56 AM  

TuteTibiImperes: 99.998er: What always makes me scratch my head is that if you go on vacation to a beach town, you will see places like Red Lobster or Olive Garden packed. Then you see a local joint across the street named something like Pirate Jack's half full. Yeah, I would travel 1500 miles to eat in the same shiat hole I could eat less than a mile from at home, but never do.

Some people just don't care about quality food.  That being said, the place called Pirate Jack's could be a tourist trap and even worse than Red Lobster.  With Yelp and various forums it is getting a lot easier to find good places even in touristy areas without having to have a local clue you in though.


It's the same reason why McDonald's is so popular.  Most people want familiarity and predictability more than they want quality.  For them, a bird in the hand is worth a flock in the bush.
 
2014-05-26 12:53:02 AM  
I am reading this while eating some great chicken enchiladas. It's at some dinky looking place that uses paper plates but man is it good! I am on a good Mexican food fix right now.
 
2014-05-26 12:53:35 AM  

ciberido: Nix Nightbird: I find it annoying that TFA kept saying "You could just stay home and make it in your own kitchen" as if going to a restaurant weren't something you do because you DON'T FEEL LIKE COOKING TONIGHT or DON'T WANT TO COOK FOR A LARGE GROUP.

It's not always.

The author is implicitly dividing all restaurants into two categories: those where you couldn't hope to make what was on the menu there in your own kitchen (and have it coming out tasting as good or better), and those where the food is no better than or different from what you could make yourself at home.

In general, really good restaurants fall into the first category, and restaurants that are bad or mediocre fall into the latter.  There are other considerations, however; for example, you might love Indian food, but lack the slightest idea of how to cook it at home.  Then ANY Indian restaurant would fall into the first category.

I make a pretty decent meatloaf, for example, but I couldn't make a kofta if my life depended on it.  If I felt like meatloaf, I could stay at home and bake my own, or I could go out to a Golden Corral and order one.  I don't have that option with kofta.


I can cook, but oftentimes takeout is cheaper than cooking myself.  If I get a craving for something I then have to go buy a bunch of ingredients, end up with more than I need, and have leftovers that I may or may not eat, plus all of the leftover ingredients that I may or may not use before they go bad.

If I go to a restaurant or get takeout I pay for the meal I want, and that's it, no leftovers or waste to deal with (and no dishes to clean).
 
2014-05-26 12:54:50 AM  

lindalouwho: grumpfuff: ciberido: grumpfuff: vossiewulf: Mitch Taylor's Bro: lindalouwho: It's beyond me why anyone would care where and what other people eat.

And I was a chef for a living.

I hope you cared what other people ate WHILE you were a chef ;-)

Give her a break, she's no more than two.

Answer to original question:
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You're thinking of Cindy.

/amazed no one else caught that

I got that it was a reference to The Grinch Who Stole Christmas, but I couldn't remember the name exactly.

Well, Dr. Seuss is probably second only to Mr. Rogers in terms of my childhood heroes. That and the "amazed" part was mostly referring to (red-faced) linda.

If I ever miss a Mr. Rogers reference, just shoot me. I'm a Pittsburgher.


With a handle like yours, missing that is probably about just as bad. I guess you're lucky I'm a pacifist. :P
 
2014-05-26 12:57:10 AM  

Tom_Slick: I like Panda Express, there are better places but it really isn't bad food.


Never been, but lets face it... most local ma and pop Chinese food is probably not much better,  I've had very good Chinese, but if I need a quick meal delivered in 10 minutes for $15 (me and the Mrs.)... I'll just go with the local Chinese place.  Not gourmet, but you really can't fark up Chinese food.  It does the trick, and its fast and cheap.
 
2014-05-26 01:02:50 AM  
downstairs: Not gourmet, but you really can't fark up Chinese food.

I beg to differ.  I've seen it done.
 
2014-05-26 01:02:50 AM  

Krieghund: I used to love Chili's back in the day, now I find them way too salty.


Came here to say exactly that.  I have no problem with fast food and chains- they serve a purpose.  If I'm in an airport or need something quick, I'll get McNuggets.  But indeed- Chilis is *way* too salty.  I totally get that for my $10 or whatever I'm not getting a master chef cooking my steak... but damn, calm down on the salt!  If someone wants their food over-salted, put a shaker on the table and let them go at it.  To each their own.
 
2014-05-26 01:03:45 AM  
Wait, am I the only one who sees the real story here? The one where you can De-slidify a slideshowby bookmarking a de-sliding bookmark after going to the farking slideshow website? I just tried it. I may actually browse through future slideshows now. God bless you, subby!

/short version - go to this site, follow the directions in the middle of the page and bookmark that link. Then after stumbling on a slideshow, click the bookmark you made, and wait for de-slidification.

//Or if you don't trust a stranger saying "check this link out, it's wonderful!", just follow the trail from subby's post.
 
2014-05-26 01:03:52 AM  

mediablitz: Mitch Taylor's Bro: vossiewulf: Mitch Taylor's Bro: lindalouwho: It's beyond me why anyone would care where and what other people eat.

And I was a chef for a living.

I hope you cared what other people ate WHILE you were a chef ;-)

Give her a break, she's no more than two.

Answer to original question:
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Do you honestly "like" any of those restaurants? I mean, if I'm hungry enough, and there's nothing else around, I'll go to those places. But I live in a region where better options are everywhere.

Obviously LOTS of people like "those places" or they wouldn't be in business. How is that difficult to understand?


Oh, I know that LOTS of people like "those places." That's easy to understand. Perhaps you should go back and re-read the thread, including the text of the image vossiewulf posted, and see why your statement makes no sense in that context. Maybe then you'll understand what I was getting at.
 
2014-05-26 01:06:59 AM  
Olive Garden is a piss poor excuse for  Italian food.
/yes I'm a foodie
//yes I'm italian
///fuhgeddaboutit
 
2014-05-26 01:07:10 AM  

ciberido: downstairs: Not gourmet, but you really can't fark up Chinese food.

I beg to differ.  I've seen it done.


Oh I was being short.  Yeah, I have too.  Its just very rare.  My local place makes a very weird egg foo young.  I guess its the spices they use, which may appeal to others- not my thing.  But all in all if I'm just looking for a food-mouth-stomach then watch TV kinda night... Chinese works.  Its quick and cheap.
 
2014-05-26 01:10:29 AM  

grumpfuff: lindalouwho: grumpfuff: ciberido: grumpfuff: vossiewulf: Mitch Taylor's Bro: lindalouwho: It's beyond me why anyone would care where and what other people eat.

And I was a chef for a living.

I hope you cared what other people ate WHILE you were a chef ;-)

Give her a break, she's no more than two.

Answer to original question:
[img.4plebs.org image 350x377]


You're thinking of Cindy.

/amazed no one else caught that

I got that it was a reference to The Grinch Who Stole Christmas, but I couldn't remember the name exactly.

Well, Dr. Seuss is probably second only to Mr. Rogers in terms of my childhood heroes. That and the "amazed" part was mostly referring to (red-faced) linda.

If I ever miss a Mr. Rogers reference, just shoot me. I'm a Pittsburgher.

With a handle like yours, missing that is probably about just as bad. I guess you're lucky I'm a pacifist. :P


You're right; my intent wasn't to obscure that fact.

Here's a fitting gun:

shapedpoptart.jpg
 
2014-05-26 01:13:59 AM  

Bullseyed: Witness99: I don't know why people dis Olive Garden. I made their "Stuffed Chicken Marsala" recipe this weekend and it was awesome. I also make the Cheddar Bay Biscuits from Red Lobster. What's not to love?

Because the stuff they give away for free isn't supposed to count. I wonder if that's an intentional formula though. McDs sucks, but fries. Red Lobster is eh but biscuit yum. Olive Garden ew but bread sticks yay.


You're correct about intentional formula - it's the "loss leader" concept. The free stuff is loved enough to bring a lot of people in for meals.
 
2014-05-26 01:15:24 AM  

lindalouwho: grumpfuff: lindalouwho: grumpfuff: ciberido: grumpfuff: vossiewulf: Mitch Taylor's Bro: lindalouwho: It's beyond me why anyone would care where and what other people eat.

And I was a chef for a living.

I hope you cared what other people ate WHILE you were a chef ;-)

Give her a break, she's no more than two.

Answer to original question:
[img.4plebs.org image 350x377]


You're thinking of Cindy.

/amazed no one else caught that

I got that it was a reference to The Grinch Who Stole Christmas, but I couldn't remember the name exactly.

Well, Dr. Seuss is probably second only to Mr. Rogers in terms of my childhood heroes. That and the "amazed" part was mostly referring to (red-faced) linda.

If I ever miss a Mr. Rogers reference, just shoot me. I'm a Pittsburgher.

With a handle like yours, missing that is probably about just as bad. I guess you're lucky I'm a pacifist. :P

You're right; my intent wasn't to obscure that fact.

Here's a fitting gun:

shapedpoptart.jpg


I was thinking more like one of these?

gadgethim.walyou.netdna-cdn.com

(lol at the Sprite can)

Or maybe a shotgun? Get it? A SHOTgun? For SHOTS???
(shut up, I couldn't get the image to link properly)
 
2014-05-26 01:17:23 AM  

Witness99: I don't know why people dis Olive Garden. I made their "Stuffed Chicken Marsala" recipe this weekend and it was awesome. I also make the Cheddar Bay Biscuits from Red Lobster. What's not to love?


People dis Olive Garden because it claims to serve Italian food.

What they serve is at best a pastiche of the real thing. It is also heavily Americanized, so it's not surprising that many Americans like it. All the more power to them. Their claim that they serve authentic Italian food, however, is a fraud.

/ Oh, and the pasta is systematically overcooked.
 
2014-05-26 01:20:22 AM  
panda express has fresh, stir fry veggies.

sbarro i think uses fresh veg for their slices. you can also get a side of mixed veg. i don't think think it's frozen, but definitely overcooked usually.

everything else on that list is mostly processed frozen garbage. they have booze, but i'd rather get something at a short order place and drink at a bar.
 
2014-05-26 01:46:03 AM  

99.998er: What always makes me scratch my head is that if you go on vacation to a beach town, you will see places like Red Lobster or Olive Garden packed. Then you see a local joint across the street named something like Pirate Jack's half full. Yeah, I would travel 1500 miles to eat in the same shiat hole I could eat less than a mile from at home, but never do.


Vacation is the only time I become a "food snob". I refuse to eat at a chain when I'm out of town unless I absolutely have no choice in the matter.
 
2014-05-26 01:55:59 AM  

Tom_Slick: MNguy: Witness99: I don't know why people dis Olive Garden. I made their "Stuffed Chicken Marsala" recipe this weekend and it was awesome. I also make the Cheddar Bay Biscuits from Red Lobster. What's not to love?

They are too expensive for the author.  Maybe he'll review Jimmy Johns for his next article.

And compare it to a Publix made deli sub.


There is NO comparison to a Publix made deli sub.
 
2014-05-26 02:15:04 AM  
Most of those places are perfectly fine.
There are some bad Sbarro's but there are good ones.
The ones on the Penn Turnpike are usually good.
And some of the Golden Corrals in the Southwest are really good, although in the North they tend not to be very good.
McDonald's and Burger King are shiatty food, Olive Garden is not.
 
2014-05-26 02:16:30 AM  

capt.hollister: Witness99: I don't know why people dis Olive Garden. I made their "Stuffed Chicken Marsala" recipe this weekend and it was awesome. I also make the Cheddar Bay Biscuits from Red Lobster. What's not to love?

People dis Olive Garden because it claims to serve Italian food.

What they serve is at best a pastiche of the real thing. It is also heavily Americanized, so it's not surprising that many Americans like it. All the more power to them. Their claim that they serve authentic Italian food, however, is a fraud.

/ Oh, and the pasta is systematically overcooked.


Not really.
This is something hipsters and foodies like to say.
But it's just pasta.  Just pasta.  You can't "Americanize" pasta.  It's starch with tomato stuff on top.  It's fine.  Grow up.
 
2014-05-26 02:28:16 AM  

Begoggle: capt.hollister: Witness99: I don't know why people dis Olive Garden. I made their "Stuffed Chicken Marsala" recipe this weekend and it was awesome. I also make the Cheddar Bay Biscuits from Red Lobster. What's not to love?

People dis Olive Garden because it claims to serve Italian food.

What they serve is at best a pastiche of the real thing. It is also heavily Americanized, so it's not surprising that many Americans like it. All the more power to them. Their claim that they serve authentic Italian food, however, is a fraud.

/ Oh, and the pasta is systematically overcooked.

Not really.
This is something hipsters and foodies like to say.
But it's just pasta.  Just pasta.  You can't "Americanize" pasta.  It's starch with tomato stuff on top.  It's fine.  Grow up.


No, pasta can easily be over cooked and any cuisine can be Americanized.  Check out any decent authentic Italian restaurant to see the difference.   Olive Garden isn't terrible, but it's not good either. And it sure as shiat isn't Italian food.
 
2014-05-26 02:35:45 AM  
RIP Chili's:

"Chili's first location, a converted postal station on Greenville Ave. in the Vickery Meadows area of Dallas, Texas, opened in 1975. The original Chili's on Greenville Ave. moved to a new building near the same site in 1981 before ceasing operations in 2007.[3] After laying idle for years, the building was torn down in 2012 to make way for a new 7-Eleven convenience store.[4]"
 
2014-05-26 03:18:16 AM  
I'm not even going to check to see if "Whataburger" is on the list.  It rules.
 
2014-05-26 03:21:34 AM  
I really hate all the people who throw around the phrase "authentic" at food.  That "Americanized" Italian food & Chinese food?  Yeah, it was created and popularized by Italian & Chinese chefs and adapted to the American palate.  Many of us have grown up with it and prefer it to anything from the original place of inspiration.  It is "authentic" in itself and doesn't need some pretentious "foodie" dissing on it just because they took a trip to Italy or Beijing once.
 
2014-05-26 03:43:09 AM  

lindalouwho: It's beyond me why anyone would care where and what other people eat.


Because sometimes we get dragged along to these crapholes.

Okay, I can usually find something not too awful at most of these, but there are so much better places we could be going for less money.
 
2014-05-26 03:49:38 AM  

TuteTibiImperes: 99.998er: What always makes me scratch my head is that if you go on vacation to a beach town, you will see places like Red Lobster or Olive Garden packed. Then you see a local joint across the street named something like Pirate Jack's half full. Yeah, I would travel 1500 miles to eat in the same shiat hole I could eat less than a mile from at home, but never do.

Some people just don't care about quality food.  That being said, the place called Pirate Jack's could be a tourist trap and even worse than Red Lobster.  With Yelp and various forums it is getting a lot easier to find good places even in touristy areas without having to have a local clue you in though.


When traveling, one of my rules is to never eat dinner at chain or franchise restaurants.  If I know where I'm going ahead of time, I check out Roadfood to see if there's any local joints worth stopping at.
 
2014-05-26 03:57:40 AM  

basemetal: Meh, I can handle Panda Express every now and then.  It's just fast food, but in a pinch, it's different.


I was taking the bus home from work one day several years ago (the gf had the car) and was passing in front of a Panda Epress down the street from my place. Two seats in front of me was this odd couple, this short little skinny guy paired with this whale of a woman. Gigantor says to her boyfriend, "Gee, there's one of them Panda Express. Honey, when we get some money saved up, we're gonna have to try that place out."

Truly, I didn't know whether to laugh or cry.
 
2014-05-26 04:45:48 AM  

Trocadero: And w/ the deteriorating middle class, that's all that's going to be left; ultra cheap garbage food, or the fanciest restaurants you can think of. Hell, Red Lobster is in that middle zone and is dying, hard.


Another factor driving that bifurcation is the rapidly increasing cost of food as climate catastrophe devastates humanity's ability grow crops and increasing ocean acidity destroys the bottom of the food chain.
 
2014-05-26 04:47:31 AM  
you are far more likely to die from heart disease than from a gunshot yet people want guns taken away, why aren't we getting rid of unhealthy eating choices and options?

/not a gun owner
//didn't always eat healthy
///hate Michael Bloomberg
 
2014-05-26 04:52:32 AM  
downstairs:  Not gourmet, but you really can't fark up Chinese food.  It does the trick, and its fast and cheap.

Sure you can:  cook it in cottonseed oil, derived from the most heavily pesticide-sprayed crops on the planet.  Do you think the industrial process to extract the oil filters out all that poison?  This is the first thing I ask about when going to an unfamiliar Chinese place.

Panda Express uses canola oil, which isn't good, but it's better than all the other seed oils.
 
2014-05-26 05:19:54 AM  
Well, lessee:

* Sbarro.  I have never seen these outside of a mall food court, and then it's usually the food court bay with no line and heat-lamped-to-death pizza.  Oh wait, I forgot:  I did see one in Houston Hobby Airport, and actually ate there.  They had a happy hour going, and their computerized shot-o-meter was leaking a bit, giving an extra half-shot in most drinks.  The grease on the pizza slice helped balance out the rot-gut vodka.  3.5 stars for briefly whisking me away from the din of Hobby Airport.

* Olive Garden.  We end up there occasionally for large work lunches.  I do love the salad there, so I usually order something small-it's easy, order something that's supposed to be mostly protein-and load up on the salad.

* Red Lobster.  Meh.  After three or four cheddar biscuits, I don't care so much about the seafood.

* Chili's.  I used to go here every couple months for bar food and margaritas.  One of the better options after 11PM away from a big city, because most other places are closed by then.

* Friday's.  I used to eat there all the time in my 20s.  There was one just up the street from me.  They had some halfway decent meals at the time.  This is before they got rid of the candy stripe uniforms and the thirty-seven pieces of flair.  And then the the Jack Daniels Grill took over half the menu, and more recently they Guy Fieri-ed the menu.  Either that, or my taste buds changed.  Now it's good for a few stiff drinks after midnight when all the other places stumbling distance from my hotel have closed when on a business trip.

* Applebee's.  Only time I end up at one of these is when I'm in the local "big town" in otherwise rural Michigan, northern Illinois or southern Wisconsin.  My mom likes to treat us to Applebee's because it's nice to sometimes go to a "nice restaurant."  Ahem.

* Golden Corral.  I get indigestion just watching their commercials, and feel nauseous whenever they show their chocolate fountain.  (Something about the way the chocolate ripples just makes me queasy. It's too fluid, in just the wrong way.)  Every one I've seen around here (D/FW area) seems to be run down, and the patrons ambling in and out make me feel skinny.  (And I assure you I'm not.)  Haven't tried it, and not in a hurry to.

* Hard Rock Cafe.  From what I remember, Applebee's quality food at twice the price.  Oh, and the upsell!  "Would you like your drink in a Hard Rock Cafe commemorative glass?  It's just $15!"  "Buy a t-shirt!"


* Planet Hollywood.  Haven't been there, and nothing I've seen inspires me to go.  Looks like a similar formula to Hard Rock's.

* Panda Express.  These have been popping up around here.  Truly food-court fast food quality.  When one went in near my old house, the Chinese food place I actually liked (and had delivery!) went out of business about a year later.  For some reason their food seems way too gooey, saucy and salty for me, which is saying something.  (I usually add salt to everything.)  Heck, I prefer Jack-in-the-Box's egg rolls to theirs, sadly.  Fortunately, there are much better options near my new house, including the mini "Chinatown" area in Richardson.

I'm hardly a foody.  Heck, I still hit up McD's and Jack-in-the-Box for breakfast occasionally, and the occasional Whataburger is a guilty pleasure.  But in a city the size of D/FW, there are so many other options, I can understand why most of these restaurants are only found near major freeways, near large shopping malls, or at the airport.

/I sound fat
 
2014-05-26 05:21:09 AM  
There was nothing on that list with which I could argue.
 
2014-05-26 06:20:41 AM  

baka-san: I like chilis


As do i.
 
2014-05-26 07:04:25 AM  
Surprised to see Cracker Barrel didn't make the list.
 
2014-05-26 07:35:22 AM  
I would agree with all of these except for the Hard Rock Cafe. They are expensive, but I think their food is actually good. I remember going to the Planet Hollywood in Baltimore's inner harbor. I think we paid $75 for two people. The food wasn't good and I was still hungry. In my mind, Red Lobster is just Long John Silvers with waiters. That said, I don't care if others want to go to these places.
 
2014-05-26 07:59:42 AM  

Spanky McStupid: Surprised to see Cracker Barrel didn't make the list.


SHUT YOU'RE (sic) WHORE MOUTH!

/I keed

If we're limited to the realm of chain restaurants, I'd take Cracker Barrel over Morton's or Ruth's Chris.

I have been hungry in unfamiliar places and regretted trying the independent restaurant.

Besides, I just love me some Chinese lead-painted garbage souvenirs.
 
2014-05-26 08:06:16 AM  
Never eaten at planet hollywood but the rest of them are fine for what they do. If you go to any of those places expecting a gourmet experience then you're an idiot.
 
2014-05-26 08:28:17 AM  
Once a week we eat at OG. We love the salad (dressing). The food is decent. Portions are so that we have leftovers for lunch. The staff is nice. And it's cheap. The best part is neither has to cook or clean up afterwards.

We go to Chili's a couple of times a month because of their CRACK CHIPS. Their salsa is nasty, but we can't get enough of their CRACK CHIPS
 
2014-05-26 08:30:23 AM  
I'll admit to not minding TGIF's on rare occasion (granted, it's probably been a few years since I've gone to any of the linked places).  Their Jack Daniel's chicken and burger were always tasty, from what I recall.
 
2014-05-26 09:19:19 AM  
Olive Garden? No, never again. Maybe if someone else picks up the tab AND pays me to go there. As for the rest? I've had worse. Like, say...Olive Garden.
 
2014-05-26 09:23:45 AM  

pngwnpwr: Red Lobster is as good as any other non-ocean front seafood joint.


If your town has a population over 20 thousand or so, chances are that you have access to fresh seafood.  You're just not looking hard enough due to your exceptionally low standards.
 
2014-05-26 09:36:24 AM  

Spanky McStupid: Surprised to see Cracker Barrel didn't make the list.


A big ol' THIS.
 
2014-05-26 09:41:17 AM  

Spanky McStupid: Surprised to see Cracker Barrel didn't make the list.


Cracker Barrel is just fine. It's not haute cuisine and doesn't hold itself out as anything other than what it is. If you don't like that sort of heavy Southern fare, then I understand why you might not like it. I eat there once, maybe twice a year.
 
2014-05-26 09:58:57 AM  

MechaPyx: FarkingReading: You know what else sucks? McDonald's, KFC, Taco Bell, etc.

But they don't serve alcohol or have table service.

Other than that difference, all shiat restaurants are shiat.

Shocking.

I like Taco Bell. It's my not so guilty pleasure.


There's no shame in running for the border
 
2014-05-26 10:42:27 AM  
I get treated to OG by my parents once or twice a year. Their salad and breadsticks are the only reason they are still in business. Their dishes are always bland. But now you can buy their salad dressing at Sam's. Yay!
 
2014-05-26 11:03:27 AM  

oldtaku: lindalouwho: It's beyond me why anyone would care where and what other people eat.

Because sometimes we get dragged along to these crapholes.

Okay, I can usually find something not too awful at most of these, but there are so much better places we could be going for less money.


THIS!  ^^^  For my 54th birthday, my GF took me to a Texas Roadhouse in Madison Wisconsin, I think mainly because a friend of hers owns a couple of them.  Okay steak, but certainly nothing special.  And my daughter and son-in-law dragged me to Long Horn Steakhouse in Bloomington Indiana a couple months back. HORRIBLE service, mediocre food, WAY too expensive for what you get.  The thing they both had in common? Shiatty beer selection.  I like a good beer with my dinner, not some mass produced swill.  For the masses I guess.  Too many good stand-alone steak houses out there to mess wit' da chains.
 
2014-05-26 11:07:33 AM  

madcitymac: oldtaku: lindalouwho: It's beyond me why anyone would care where and what other people eat.

Because sometimes we get dragged along to these crapholes.

Okay, I can usually find something not too awful at most of these, but there are so much better places we could be going for less money.

THIS!  ^^^  For my 54th birthday, my GF took me to a Texas Roadhouse in Madison Wisconsin, I think mainly because a friend of hers owns a couple of them.  Okay steak, but certainly nothing special.  And my daughter and son-in-law dragged me to Long Horn Steakhouse in Bloomington Indiana a couple months back. HORRIBLE service, mediocre food, WAY too expensive for what you get.  The thing they both had in common? Shiatty beer selection.  I like a good beer with my dinner, not some mass produced swill.  For the masses I guess.  Too many good stand-alone steak houses out there to mess wit' da chains.


As chains go I actually don't mind either of those places, though Longhorns is the better atmosphere with Texas Roadhouse having marginally better steaks. Neither would be my first place to take someone to impress them, though.
 
2014-05-26 11:16:06 AM  

stonelotus: you are far more likely to die from heart disease than from a gunshot yet people want guns taken away, why aren't we getting rid of unhealthy eating choices and options?


Because we believe in the principle that adults should get to make their own choices in life?
 
2014-05-26 11:29:53 AM  
I used to love Chili's chicken tacos.  Then one day a few years ago the menu changed and they were either gone or sucked.  I called over a manager to ask him wtf...he said - apologetically - there's new ownership and there's been some changes.  Haven't been back.
 
2014-05-26 11:36:33 AM  

John Buck 41: madcitymac: oldtaku: lindalouwho: It's beyond me why anyone would care where and what other people eat.

Because sometimes we get dragged along to these crapholes.

Okay, I can usually find something not too awful at most of these, but there are so much better places we could be going for less money.

THIS!  ^^^  For my 54th birthday, my GF took me to a Texas Roadhouse in Madison Wisconsin, I think mainly because a friend of hers owns a couple of them.  Okay steak, but certainly nothing special.  And my daughter and son-in-law dragged me to Long Horn Steakhouse in Bloomington Indiana a couple months back. HORRIBLE service, mediocre food, WAY too expensive for what you get.  The thing they both had in common? Shiatty beer selection.  I like a good beer with my dinner, not some mass produced swill.  For the masses I guess.  Too many good stand-alone steak houses out there to mess wit' da chains.

As chains go I actually don't mind either of those places, though Longhorns is the better atmosphere with Texas Roadhouse having marginally better steaks. Neither would be my first place to take someone to impress them, though.


Yeah I like Texas Roadhouse and have gotten worse steaks at standalone places.  The difference is at TR if you even furrow your brow at your food...cooking level, gristle, whatever...you'll get three managers taking turns at your table to apologize, personally recook your steak - cut from a fresh cow if you'd like, comp your meal, throw in free beers and desert.  You just have to share your dinner experience with fat rednecks in ballcaps.
 
2014-05-26 11:38:40 AM  

Abox: You just have to share your dinner experience with fat rednecks in ballcaps.


LoL  Pretty much
 
2014-05-26 12:18:22 PM  
Reataurants that also fail at food:
-Ruby Tuesday's (still marginally better than Applebee's, tho)
-Rainforest Cafe
-La Madeleine (not really French and their tomato bisque soup tastes like it's just pasta sauce. But to be fair, their pastries are ah-maaaaaaa-zing)
-Oh, and I know this is sacrilege, but Hooter's wings? They really weren't THAT good. I've had worse but I've also had better.
 
2014-05-26 12:21:28 PM  

kaduh: I'm not even going to check to see if "Whataburger" is on the list.  It rules.


You're damn right it does.

And say what you want about Texas, the food here is awesome.
 
2014-05-26 12:51:42 PM  

Nabb1: Cracker Barrel is just fine. It's not haute cuisine and doesn't hold itself out as anything other than what it is. If you don't like that sort of heavy Southern fare, then I understand why you might not like it. I eat there once, maybe twice a year.


That f'ing peg puzzle at the table drives me batty, though.  Finally got down to one peg standing.  Finally.
 
2014-05-26 12:56:53 PM  

Begoggle: capt.hollister: Witness99: I don't know why people dis Olive Garden. I made their "Stuffed Chicken Marsala" recipe this weekend and it was awesome. I also make the Cheddar Bay Biscuits from Red Lobster. What's not to love?

People dis Olive Garden because it claims to serve Italian food.

What they serve is at best a pastiche of the real thing. It is also heavily Americanized, so it's not surprising that many Americans like it. All the more power to them. Their claim that they serve authentic Italian food, however, is a fraud.

/ Oh, and the pasta is systematically overcooked.

Not really.
This is something hipsters and foodies like to say.
But it's just pasta.  Just pasta.  You can't "Americanize" pasta.  It's starch with tomato stuff on top.  It's fine.  Grow up.



See, Italians would disagree with your statement that pasta is just pasta. Pasta needs to be properly cooked with just the right amount of salt and just the right feel when you bite into it. Overcooked pasta is just too mushy.

Sure you can Americanize it. For most people, pasta serves as the basis for a sauce delivery system. It is all the more possible to Americanize pasta sauce when you remember that Italians don't really have "pasta sauce", but rather will top pasta with whatever happens to be at hand, often, but not necessarily, including tomatoes. At any rate, my comment regarding an Americanized menu was mostly aimed at the rest of the choices.

Take the stuffed marsala chicken: the usual recipe for marsala chicken uses battered chicken cutlets and they are not stuffed.

As someone who already stands a clear head above my Italian (not North American Italian, but actual Italians living in Italy) relatives, I really feel that growing any more in the vertical sense would be overkill, maybe even a little rude, while growing any more in the horizontal sense would surely be bad for me, so I'll pass on your request
 
2014-05-26 01:03:03 PM  
I am loving the "Panda Express is SO not authentic" comments.
When I got away from the tourist places in Beijing, the food was exactly like Panda Express.

/Kind of like the pretentious "right" way to eat sushi that has no connection with how Japanese folks eat sushi.
 
2014-05-26 01:09:24 PM  

ciberido: stonelotus: you are far more likely to die from heart disease than from a gunshot yet people want guns taken away, why aren't we getting rid of unhealthy eating choices and options?

Because we believe in the principle that adults should get to make their own choices in life?


so where's the legal prostitution and drug use?
 
2014-05-26 01:11:26 PM  

Nabb1: Spanky McStupid: Surprised to see Cracker Barrel didn't make the list.

Cracker Barrel is just fine. It's not haute cuisine and doesn't hold itself out as anything other than what it is. If you don't like that sort of heavy Southern fare, then I understand why you might not like it. I eat there once, maybe twice a year.


I just wanted a decent ribeye. Nothing southern about it. Ended up with an overcooked (asked for med. rare) half-inch thick POS. It was on the company dime though, so no lightening of my wallet.
 
2014-05-26 01:32:57 PM  

stonelotus: ciberido: stonelotus: you are far more likely to die from heart disease than from a gunshot yet people want guns taken away, why aren't we getting rid of unhealthy eating choices and options?

Because we believe in the principle that adults should get to make their own choices in life?

so where's the legal prostitution and drug use?


Why are you trying to turn a food thread into another politics thread?
 
2014-05-26 02:04:36 PM  

Needlessly Complicated: Reataurants that also fail at food:
-Ruby Tuesday's (still marginally better than Applebee's, tho)
-Rainforest Cafe
-La Madeleine (not really French and their tomato bisque soup tastes like it's just pasta sauce. But to be fair, their pastries are ah-maaaaaaa-zing)
-Oh, and I know this is sacrilege, but Hooter's wings? They really weren't THAT good. I've had worse but I've also had better.


Who goes to Hooters for the food?
 
2014-05-26 02:31:17 PM  

ciberido: stonelotus: ciberido: stonelotus: you are far more likely to die from heart disease than from a gunshot yet people want guns taken away, why aren't we getting rid of unhealthy eating choices and options?

Because we believe in the principle that adults should get to make their own choices in life?

so where's the legal prostitution and drug use?

Why are you trying to turn a food thread into another politics thread?


why are you afraid of a perfectly legitimate question?  people love chowing down on bullshiat that kills them in droves. companies love making a profit from killing their customers in droves.  pointing out that these deaths occur at a much higher rate than from something that people react rabidly to while doing nothing about the greater damage is hardly cause for crying "omg politics!".

oh, and to readdress your previous question, these "adults" are also making the choices for their children and pets.  so yeah, that area of responsibility extends outside the self.
 
2014-05-26 04:19:56 PM  

John Buck 41: Nabb1: Spanky McStupid: Surprised to see Cracker Barrel didn't make the list.

Cracker Barrel is just fine. It's not haute cuisine and doesn't hold itself out as anything other than what it is. If you don't like that sort of heavy Southern fare, then I understand why you might not like it. I eat there once, maybe twice a year.

I just wanted a decent ribeye. Nothing southern about it. Ended up with an overcooked (asked for med. rare) half-inch thick POS. It was on the company dime though, so no lightening of my wallet.


You ordered a ribeye at a Cracker Barrel. You ordered a ribeye. At a Cracker Barrel. Not Ruth's Chris. Cracker Barrel. I like Cracker Barrel well enough, but I'm not going to order a steak there. When at Cracker Barrel, it is best to get the country fried variety of steak if you are just that keen on steak.
 
kth
2014-05-26 04:57:01 PM  
We were in a small town this weekend, and the guy at the B&B said that there was a funky little place downtown that has a decent menu, a couple of italian places and a cajun joint.

What he forgot was that it was Sunday.

We drove around this crappy little town for about half an hour looking for anything that was open. There was some oddly hipster place that specialized in meat loaf and deviled eggs (wtf?)... but they were out of ground beef and eggs.  So we ended up at this chain place, Ground Round. Run far.

We had a much better lunch at the lone restaurant in the town of 575 on the way home.
 
2014-05-26 04:57:17 PM  

Nabb1: John Buck 41: Nabb1: Spanky McStupid: Surprised to see Cracker Barrel didn't make the list.

Cracker Barrel is just fine. It's not haute cuisine and doesn't hold itself out as anything other than what it is. If you don't like that sort of heavy Southern fare, then I understand why you might not like it. I eat there once, maybe twice a year.

I just wanted a decent ribeye. Nothing southern about it. Ended up with an overcooked (asked for med. rare) half-inch thick POS. It was on the company dime though, so no lightening of my wallet.

You ordered a ribeye at a Cracker Barrel. You ordered a ribeye. At a Cracker Barrel. Not Ruth's Chris. Cracker Barrel. I like Cracker Barrel well enough, but I'm not going to order a steak there. When at Cracker Barrel, it is best to get the country fried variety of steak if you are just that keen on steak.


It's pretty difficult to fu*k up a medium rare ribeye. Unless it's only as think as a Harlequin romance book and cooked to shiat. And as for country-fried steak? Coated in flour and thrown in a skillet? No thanks. Believe me, if there was a Ruth's Chris in that town I'd've gone there. Luckily there was an independent steakhouse in town which was awesome, but my co-workers wanted to go to a different place every night.
 
2014-05-26 04:57:48 PM  

stonelotus: ciberido: stonelotus: ciberido: stonelotus: you are far more likely to die from heart disease than from a gunshot yet people want guns taken away, why aren't we getting rid of unhealthy eating choices and options?

Because we believe in the principle that adults should get to make their own choices in life?

so where's the legal prostitution and drug use?

Why are you trying to turn a food thread into another politics thread?

why are you afraid of a perfectly legitimate question?  people love chowing down on bullshiat that kills them in droves. companies love making a profit from killing their customers in droves.  pointing out that these deaths occur at a much higher rate than from something that people react rabidly to while doing nothing about the greater damage is hardly cause for crying "omg politics!".

oh, and to readdress your previous question, these "adults" are also making the choices for their children and pets.  so yeah, that area of responsibility extends outside the self.


Here's where the argument falls apart: a maniac with a corn dog isn't going to kill anyone with it.  Someone being careless with a plate of spaghetti results in a stained shirt at worst.

Eating poorly may do yourself in, but your eating habits won't harm anyone else.
 
2014-05-26 06:40:32 PM  

pngwnpwr: Red Lobster is as good as any other non-ocean front seafood joint.


Mitchell's Fish Market and McCormick & Schmicks would like a word with you.
 
2014-05-26 07:02:07 PM  

911Jenny: Look, sometimes a girl just wants some coconut shrimp with that tasty-ass pineapple dipping stuff. And cheddar biscuits.

/Olive Garden gives me the poos


Red Lobster Parrot Bay Coconut Shrimp

Prep Time: 45 mins

Total Time: 1 hrs

Servings: 3-4

Ingredients

Pina Colada Dipping Sauce
Shrimp

Pina Colada Dipping Sauce:
1/2 cup sour cream
1/4 cup pina colada nonalcoholic drink mix
1/4 cup crushed pineapple ( canned)
2 tablespoons granulated sugar

Shrimp:

6 -8 cups canola oil ( as required by fryer)
12 large shrimp, peeled and deveined ( about 1/2 pound)
1 1/2 cups all-purpose flour
2 tablespoons granulated sugar
1/4 teaspoon salt
1 cup milk
2 tablespoons Captain Morgan Parrot Bay Coconut Rum
1 cup panko Japanese-style bread crumbs
1/2 cup flaked coconut
salsa

Directions
Prepare pina colada dipping sauce first by combining all the ingredients.
Cover this and let it chill out in the fridge while you make the shrimp.

Heat oil to 350 degrees.

Measure 3/4 cup of flour into a medium bowl.

Directions
In another medium bowl mix together the remaining 3/4 cup flour, sugar, and salt.
Stir milk and rum into flour mixture.
Let this batter stand for five minutes.
While the batter rests, combine panko breadcrumbs and shredded coconut into a third medium bowl.
Butterfly cut each shrimp before you start the battering: Use a sharp knife to slice through the top of the shrimp (where the vein was) so that you can spread the shrimp open.
Leave the tail intact.
To batter the shrimp, dip each one in the flour, then the wet batter, then coat each shrimp with the panko/coconut mixture.
Arrange the shrimp on a plate until all of them are battered.
Fry the shrimp by dropping six at a time into the hot oil for 2 to 3 minutes or until the shrimp are golden brown.
Remove shrimp to a rack or paper towels to drain.
Serve shrimp with pina colada dipping sauce on the side, along with a small dish or your favorite salsa.

Now you can make it at home. These turn out better than the ones from Red Lobster.

/You can thank me later
//Excellent recipe and easy to make
///go for it!
 
2014-05-26 07:14:20 PM  

99.998er: What always makes me scratch my head is that if you go on vacation to a beach town, you will see places like Red Lobster or Olive Garden packed. Then you see a local joint across the street named something like Pirate Jack's half full. Yeah, I would travel 1500 miles to eat in the same shiat hole I could eat less than a mile from at home, but never do.


We usually drive around and look for a local place that is packed with cars that have local plates. This has led to many, many excellent vacation meals.
 
2014-05-26 07:27:24 PM  

capt.hollister: Witness99: I don't know why people dis Olive Garden. I made their "Stuffed Chicken Marsala" recipe this weekend and it was awesome. I also make the Cheddar Bay Biscuits from Red Lobster. What's not to love?

People dis Olive Garden because it claims to serve Italian food.

What they serve is at best a pastiche of the real thing. It is also heavily Americanized, so it's not surprising that many Americans like it. All the more power to them. Their claim that they serve authentic Italian food, however, is a fraud.

/ Oh, and the pasta is systematically overcooked.


I've eaten at Olive Garden twice, and twice I have gotten the raging poohs later on.

/I'll pass ( no pun intended)
 
2014-05-26 10:50:49 PM  
I enjoy me some fine Chinese dining but Panda Express has a great weapon to make sure I eat more healthy:  federal law forces them to have nutrition facts on the displays of their dishes.  I see some yummy-looking stuff at 450-500 Calories/serving and some other stuff at 200-250 Cal/serving.  I opt for the lower Calorie stuff and always have a great meal, especially slathered in hot sauce.
 
2014-05-27 12:22:00 AM  

Nabb1: John Buck 41: Nabb1: Spanky McStupid: Surprised to see Cracker Barrel didn't make the list.

Cracker Barrel is just fine. It's not haute cuisine and doesn't hold itself out as anything other than what it is. If you don't like that sort of heavy Southern fare, then I understand why you might not like it. I eat there once, maybe twice a year.

I just wanted a decent ribeye. Nothing southern about it. Ended up with an overcooked (asked for med. rare) half-inch thick POS. It was on the company dime though, so no lightening of my wallet.

You ordered a ribeye at a Cracker Barrel. You ordered a ribeye. At a Cracker Barrel. Not Ruth's Chris. Cracker Barrel. I like Cracker Barrel well enough, but I'm not going to order a steak there. When at Cracker Barrel, it is best to get the country fried variety of steak if you are just that keen on steak.


I'll eat breakfast anytime at Cracker Barrel but I draw the line at dinner.
 
2014-05-27 05:51:18 AM  

stonelotus: ciberido: stonelotus: ciberido: stonelotus: you are far more likely to die from heart disease than from a gunshot yet people want guns taken away, why aren't we getting rid of unhealthy eating choices and options?

Because we believe in the principle that adults should get to make their own choices in life?

so where's the legal prostitution and drug use?

Why are you trying to turn a food thread into another politics thread?

why are you afraid of a perfectly legitimate question?  people love chowing down on bullshiat that kills them in droves. companies love making a profit from killing their customers in droves.  pointing out that these deaths occur at a much higher rate than from something that people react rabidly to while doing nothing about the greater damage is hardly cause for crying "omg politics!".

oh, and to readdress your previous question, these "adults" are also making the choices for their children and pets.  so yeah, that area of responsibility extends outside the self.


Yeah, I'm done.
 
2014-05-27 09:51:50 AM  

TuteTibiImperes: stonelotus: ciberido: stonelotus: ciberido: stonelotus: you are far more likely to die from heart disease than from a gunshot yet people want guns taken away, why aren't we getting rid of unhealthy eating choices and options?

Because we believe in the principle that adults should get to make their own choices in life?

so where's the legal prostitution and drug use?

Why are you trying to turn a food thread into another politics thread?

why are you afraid of a perfectly legitimate question?  people love chowing down on bullshiat that kills them in droves. companies love making a profit from killing their customers in droves.  pointing out that these deaths occur at a much higher rate than from something that people react rabidly to while doing nothing about the greater damage is hardly cause for crying "omg politics!".

oh, and to readdress your previous question, these "adults" are also making the choices for their children and pets.  so yeah, that area of responsibility extends outside the self.

Here's where the argument falls apart: a maniac with a corn dog isn't going to kill anyone with it.  Someone being careless with a plate of spaghetti results in a stained shirt at worst.

Eating poorly may do yourself in, but your eating habits won't harm anyone else.


ok.

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