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2014-05-25 09:13:57 PM

thespindrifter: If that were even remotely real, the club and bar 'scene' would disappear overnight


Why? Women like the attention, the free drinks, and the sex just as much as men. They would still go out. They're currently simply choosing from among a pool of self selecting candidates. The guys who are 'too chicken' to ask girls out don't. The ones who do tend to be more 'alpha'; assertive, self confident, agressive.

The guys who have a lot of success with this tend to become even more alpha; they aren't on some magic willy wonka trip or something, if this doesn't work, they move on to the next target.

Of course I've been using Eharmony for like a year without any quantifiable success, so what the fark do I know.  Apparently 'So, I'm in AA, have been for a few years, that ok?' as a second or third question is a dealbreaker, haha. But it's part of my life so fark it. There are a ton of other chicks on the site who can and will be happy to ignore me, so it's on to the next one.
 
2014-05-25 09:14:56 PM
You can always just go with the classic dik in a box
 
2014-05-25 09:30:42 PM

taurusowner: Most women who are at least somewhat attractive know that they have a certain power over a good portion of men. They have grown up getting what they want, free drinks, getting out of tickets, people to help them move, free help with homework, etc for years. They're used to it.

The key is to not be one of those guys who falls into that trap. They like a guy who is immune to the "you're hot, let me be your servant in hopes you'll fark me" attitude. Now sometimes that can indeed be with negging. Other times it can be with just being laid back, enjoying your own life and not being wrapped up in finding a girl.

That's the thing. This thread, and all the rest like it, always turns into people arguing that negging works, and people arguing that it doesn't and that being comfortable with yourself and not wrapped up in her is the real key.

You're both right. Because both are just different ways you're breaking out of the box hot chicks expect you to be in. Either way you're showing that you're not someone who is going to fall over yourself trying to please her and be the best doormat she can find. Whether that's be disarming her hotness and taking that tool away from her from the get go by negging, or by being that sure of yourself and happy with your own life that you don't really get wound up over if she's hot or not. Both work.  And coincidentally, that's why douchebags and assholes seem to be so successful all the time. The chick isn't with him specifically because he's an asshole. But she is with him because he really believes he's the most awesome guy ever. It's the confidence/arrogance thing. Both are traits guys who believe in themselves have. It's confidence if it's tempered by reality and being a decent person. It's arrogance if it's unbound and causes you to look down on others. But most women can't tell the difference between the two. Again, it goes back to showing that you're not someone who is entranced by their charms. You can do that by being an arrogant asshole who just looks down on her, or by being a confident guy who loves his life and believes he's a great person to be around. Both work. That's why we end up with Fark arguments where both sides argue about what works from your own anecdotes and experiences. They both work.


Stop making sense. That's crazy talk around here.
 
2014-05-25 09:38:02 PM

fredbox: Okay, the standard PUA advice. Try it 25 times, you'll get told to fark off 10 times, make 9 contacts that go no farther than you buying her a drink or two, get 4 drinks poured on your head, and get 1 one night stand or on-site fark in the restroom (her 3rd of the night). Also, enjoy your HPV/HSV2.


Ding!

Accuracy by Volume.
 
2014-05-25 09:40:49 PM
The examples they have chosen are terrible examples, but in general the advice isn't as bad.

1.     Maybe after you've known her a while and know which nicknames she'll be okay with.
2.     If a comment like that comes out accidentally it's not that big a deal, but if you are scrutinizing her behavior in order to find something "nerdy," you're more likely to make her feel self-conscious.
3.     No.
4.     Acceptable sometimes.  Depends on where you are and not being too competitive or too patronizingly nice.
5.     Hell, no.
6.     Keep it light and infrequent.
7.     See #1
8.     Not repeatedly.
9.     If you do actually disagree with her, don't hide it, but phrase it more tactfully and respectfully.  Jokes are okay if it's appropriate.    Calling her out for being shallow is unwise.
10.  Not repeatedly.

None of these are raging turn-ons, BTW, and there are likely to be girls who get offended by them, but that's their boundaries they're establishing.  But for most of these, whether they are appropriate or not depends on what kind of relationship you and your gf have.   These seem more appropriate for long-term couples than first dates.

/Personal opinion.  Other women may or may not agree.
 
2014-05-25 09:45:46 PM

99.998er: It really isn't that hard guys. Follow the basic guidelines and you will be OK:

*practice good hygiene
*dress nice
*be polite
*have a huge schlong with warts on the tip


Ribbed for her pleasure?
 
2014-05-25 09:45:58 PM

taurusowner: Hermione_Granger: But if a woman hints that you're going overboard doing one of these things, take it as a helpful hint

Sorry, but bullshiat. Most of your post was ok, but that part is just nonsense. You can NEVER expect people to understand a message you didn't give them. If you want someone to know something, tell them. Be direct. Tell the truth. Use clear sentences and facts. Tell them what you're thinking. The "hints and signals" thing is a farked up game women play when they're too timid to tell someone what they're thinking, or don't want to feel bad about a confrontation. So they drop hints hoping the guy will somehow read their mind and just guess correctly what he thinks she wants him to do but didn't actually tell him. Then she pushes the blame onto the guy for not getting it, much like what you are doing now.

Want someone to understand something? Farking tell them. Stop the hints and signals bullshiat and use your words to convey and idea like an adult. If you can't do that, it's your fault when things get messed up, not the guy's.


Everything changed after 9/11.
 
2014-05-25 09:49:22 PM

jenny next: The examples they have chosen are terrible examples, but in general the advice isn't as bad.

1.     Maybe after you've known her a while and know which nicknames she'll be okay with.
2.     If a comment like that comes out accidentally it's not that big a deal, but if you are scrutinizing her behavior in order to find something "nerdy," you're more likely to make her feel self-conscious.
3.     No.
4.     Acceptable sometimes.  Depends on where you are and not being too competitive or too patronizingly nice.
5.     Hell, no.
6.     Keep it light and infrequent.
7.     See #1
8.     Not repeatedly.
9.     If you do actually disagree with her, don't hide it, but phrase it more tactfully and respectfully.  Jokes are okay if it's appropriate.    Calling her out for being shallow is unwise.
10.  Not repeatedly.

None of these are raging turn-ons, BTW, and there are likely to be girls who get offended by them, but that's their boundaries they're establishing.  But for most of these, whether they are appropriate or not depends on what kind of relationship you and your gf have.   These seem more appropriate for long-term couples than first dates.

/Personal opinion.  Other women may or may not agree.


Geez, you people and your lists.

/you people
 
2014-05-25 09:57:02 PM

o'really: 99.998er: It really isn't that hard guys. Follow the basic guidelines and you will be OK:

*practice good hygiene
*dress nice
*be polite
*have a huge schlong with warts on the tip

Ribbed for her pleasure?


Didn't you read the article?
 
2014-05-25 10:01:21 PM

kroonermanblack: thespindrifter: If that were even remotely real, the club and bar 'scene' would disappear overnight

Why? Women like the attention, the free drinks, and the sex just as much as men. They would still go out. They're currently simply choosing from among a pool of self selecting candidates. The guys who are 'too chicken' to ask girls out don't. The ones who do tend to be more 'alpha'; assertive, self confident, agressive.

The guys who have a lot of success with this tend to become even more alpha; they aren't on some magic willy wonka trip or something, if this doesn't work, they move on to the next target.

Of course I've been using Eharmony for like a year without any quantifiable success, so what the fark do I know.  Apparently 'So, I'm in AA, have been for a few years, that ok?' as a second or third question is a dealbreaker, haha. But it's part of my life so fark it. There are a ton of other chicks on the site who can and will be happy to ignore me, so it's on to the next one.


I for one, appreciate the honesty. I wish more men would give me the credit to accept them as they are instead of pretending to be what they " think" I want.
We are who we are. People can take it or leave it right?
 
2014-05-25 10:04:18 PM

thespindrifter: ciberido: thespindrifter: Ah, the treasured "Neg'"... seems to work perfectly on all the non-lesbo feminazis with low self esteem, but exponentially so if you are 1) rich, 2) built like Dwayne Johnson, 3) all of the above.

There's an xkcd for every Fark thread.

Too bad the percentage of women who could actually be smart enough to pull that off is so substantially small that it pretty much never happens in real life. That cartoon right there is nothing more than a Joss Wheadon "Ass kicking hot chick" absurdist fantasy.

If that were even remotely real, the club and bar 'scene' would disappear overnight. The reason why abusive assholes continue to exist is because women love it. Betas finish last, and Alphas win by basically using this exact ploy.

The real trick is to find the middle ground between being a sucker of a nice guy or turning into a tool. It's a rare skill.


'Alphas' and 'Betas' don't even exist in the wild, the studies showing that about wolves used wolves that weren't from the same pack or even area and were herded into zoos. I'm not even going into why you want to mimic animal behavior. Seriously, is it  that hard to go to a bar or set up a Fetlife account and say 'hey, want to go have sex?'. No-strings-attached sex is a thing, and yes, there are women willing to sleep with even your needy, pathetic ass.
 
2014-05-25 10:05:30 PM

audiblesmile: kroonermanblack: thespindrifter: If that were even remotely real, the club and bar 'scene' would disappear overnight

Why? Women like the attention, the free drinks, and the sex just as much as men. They would still go out. They're currently simply choosing from among a pool of self selecting candidates. The guys who are 'too chicken' to ask girls out don't. The ones who do tend to be more 'alpha'; assertive, self confident, agressive.

The guys who have a lot of success with this tend to become even more alpha; they aren't on some magic willy wonka trip or something, if this doesn't work, they move on to the next target.

Of course I've been using Eharmony for like a year without any quantifiable success, so what the fark do I know.  Apparently 'So, I'm in AA, have been for a few years, that ok?' as a second or third question is a dealbreaker, haha. But it's part of my life so fark it. There are a ton of other chicks on the site who can and will be happy to ignore me, so it's on to the next one.

I for one, appreciate the honesty. I wish more men would give me the credit to accept them as they are instead of pretending to be what they " think" I want.
We are who we are. People can take it or leave it right?


Just tell them to fart when they need to.
 
2014-05-25 10:05:53 PM

bingethinker: If a woman feels degraded by that, she's doing me a favor if she stays away from me.


I'm pretty sure everybody wins in that situation.  *tips fedora chivalrously*
 
2014-05-25 10:06:44 PM

PsiChick: thespindrifter: ciberido: thespindrifter: Ah, the treasured "Neg'"... seems to work perfectly on all the non-lesbo feminazis with low self esteem, but exponentially so if you are 1) rich, 2) built like Dwayne Johnson, 3) all of the above.

There's an xkcd for every Fark thread.

Too bad the percentage of women who could actually be smart enough to pull that off is so substantially small that it pretty much never happens in real life. That cartoon right there is nothing more than a Joss Wheadon "Ass kicking hot chick" absurdist fantasy.

If that were even remotely real, the club and bar 'scene' would disappear overnight. The reason why abusive assholes continue to exist is because women love it. Betas finish last, and Alphas win by basically using this exact ploy.

The real trick is to find the middle ground between being a sucker of a nice guy or turning into a tool. It's a rare skill.

'Alphas' and 'Betas' don't even exist in the wild, the studies showing that about wolves used wolves that weren't from the same pack or even area and were herded into zoos. I'm not even going into why you want to mimic animal behavior. Seriously, is it  that hard to go to a bar or set up a Fetlife account and say 'hey, want to go have sex?'. No-strings-attached sex is a thing, and yes, there are women willing to sleep with even your needy, pathetic ass.


Bwahahahahahahahahaha. So many prostitutes. So many.
 
2014-05-25 10:07:33 PM

PsiChick: thespindrifter: ciberido: thespindrifter: Ah, the treasured "Neg'"... seems to work perfectly on all the non-lesbo feminazis with low self esteem, but exponentially so if you are 1) rich, 2) built like Dwayne Johnson, 3) all of the above.

There's an xkcd for every Fark thread.

Too bad the percentage of women who could actually be smart enough to pull that off is so substantially small that it pretty much never happens in real life. That cartoon right there is nothing more than a Joss Wheadon "Ass kicking hot chick" absurdist fantasy.

If that were even remotely real, the club and bar 'scene' would disappear overnight. The reason why abusive assholes continue to exist is because women love it. Betas finish last, and Alphas win by basically using this exact ploy.

The real trick is to find the middle ground between being a sucker of a nice guy or turning into a tool. It's a rare skill.

'Alphas' and 'Betas' don't even exist in the wild, the studies showing that about wolves used wolves that weren't from the same pack or even area and were herded into zoos. I'm not even going into why you want to mimic animal behavior. Seriously, is it  that hard to go to a bar or set up a Fetlife account and say 'hey, want to go have sex?'. No-strings-attached sex is a thing, and yes, there are women willing to sleep with even your needy, pathetic ass.


What about Omegas? Because I'm pretty confident about my chances if I'm the last man on earth. At least, from what women tell me.
 
2014-05-25 10:13:08 PM

Snarfangel: PsiChick: thespindrifter: ciberido: thespindrifter: Ah, the treasured "Neg'"... seems to work perfectly on all the non-lesbo feminazis with low self esteem, but exponentially so if you are 1) rich, 2) built like Dwayne Johnson, 3) all of the above.

There's an xkcd for every Fark thread.

Too bad the percentage of women who could actually be smart enough to pull that off is so substantially small that it pretty much never happens in real life. That cartoon right there is nothing more than a Joss Wheadon "Ass kicking hot chick" absurdist fantasy.

If that were even remotely real, the club and bar 'scene' would disappear overnight. The reason why abusive assholes continue to exist is because women love it. Betas finish last, and Alphas win by basically using this exact ploy.

The real trick is to find the middle ground between being a sucker of a nice guy or turning into a tool. It's a rare skill.

'Alphas' and 'Betas' don't even exist in the wild, the studies showing that about wolves used wolves that weren't from the same pack or even area and were herded into zoos. I'm not even going into why you want to mimic animal behavior. Seriously, is it  that hard to go to a bar or set up a Fetlife account and say 'hey, want to go have sex?'. No-strings-attached sex is a thing, and yes, there are women willing to sleep with even your needy, pathetic ass.

What about Omegas? Because I'm pretty confident about my chances if I'm the last man on earth. At least, from what women tell me.


Not with any women in this thread. They have nuclular-powered Hitachi's.
 
2014-05-25 10:13:39 PM

taurusowner: Hermione_Granger: So maybe I shouldn't have said, dropping a hint but the idea is the same. If a woman says, hey, you're complimenting me to much or hey, you're calling me to much, then cut it out

And that's fine, if that's what they're actually doing. If they really are actually saying "You're doing ____. I would like it more if you would instead do _____" then awesome. But if it's some weird mix of the silent treatment or making up bullshiat excuses and just hoping the guy just thinks "Ahhhh i get it now, but not talking to me and saying she's doing X tonight but posting on Facebook that she's doing Y, she's really trying to tell me ___" the chick is entirely wrong. Yet too often that's exactly what women do because they don't want to feel uncomfortable just telling the truth.


What do you mean that I find doggie style to be demeaning?  I was pushing my mashed potatoes around with my fork for at least 2 minutes!
 
2014-05-25 10:13:51 PM
Great thread.
 
2014-05-25 10:14:05 PM

taurusowner: You can NEVER expect people to understand a message you didn't give them. If you want someone to know something, tell them. Be direct. Tell the truth. Use clear sentences and facts. Tell them what you're thinking. The "hints and signals" thing is a farked up game women play when they're too timid to tell someone what they're thinking, or don't want to feel bad about a confrontation. So they drop hints hoping the guy will somehow read their mind and just guess correctly what he thinks she wants him to do but didn't actually tell him. Then she pushes the blame onto the guy for not getting it, much like what you are doing now.

Want someone to understand something? Farking tell them. Stop the hints and signals bullshiat and use your words to convey and idea like an adult. If you can't do that, it's your fault when things get messed up, not the guy's.


So, what would you say to a situation that is reversed? ie, the female is direct and the man gets super cagey?
 
2014-05-25 10:15:19 PM

Rixel: taurusowner: Hermione_Granger: So maybe I shouldn't have said, dropping a hint but the idea is the same. If a woman says, hey, you're complimenting me to much or hey, you're calling me to much, then cut it out

And that's fine, if that's what they're actually doing. If they really are actually saying "You're doing ____. I would like it more if you would instead do _____" then awesome. But if it's some weird mix of the silent treatment or making up bullshiat excuses and just hoping the guy just thinks "Ahhhh i get it now, but not talking to me and saying she's doing X tonight but posting on Facebook that she's doing Y, she's really trying to tell me ___" the chick is entirely wrong. Yet too often that's exactly what women do because they don't want to feel uncomfortable just telling the truth.

What do you mean that you don't realize that I find doggie style to be demeaning?  I was pushing my mashed potatoes around with my fork for at least 2 minutes!


Dammit....FTFM
 
2014-05-25 10:20:16 PM

Aello: thespindrifter: Witness99: I have gay male friends that act exactly like his list (most of it, anyway).

Let's have a dance off!

Deep rooted gay culture is about use and abuse, which is why there is a strong overlap between the gay crowd & the Sadomasochist lifestyle. LOTS of daddy issues, low self esteem, and generally abusive behavior. It's sad to see.

Ummmm...Seriously? The people I know in the BDSM lifestyle are very strong people with very few issues. No one has "daddy issues", VERY few have self esteem issues and in fact I've seen people build their self esteem in the lifestyle. Being in space is a hypnotic state and yes, there are those who could take advantage of that, but people I know use that space to build others up.


meh
there are nuts in all groups ...
 
2014-05-25 10:23:29 PM
Belittling women has always worked for me.
 
2014-05-25 10:31:42 PM

ghare: Laobaojun: Wow.  The only women who fall for this crap are covered by rule #1; "Don't go to bed with someone who has more problems than you do."

Seriously,  this is from some sort of "players' handbook", and guarantees that you'll spend all your time in the company of 'daddy issues' girls.  I would rather stick a spoon in my eye than get involved with a needy, clingy, insecure woman who would fall for that nonsense.

I just tell them my name is Laobaojun. Problem solved.


Only works if she's a Chinese daddy issues girl.  The cognitive dissonance of hearing a white guy say that is amazing.
 
2014-05-25 10:41:19 PM

ladyfortuna: taurusowner: You can NEVER expect people to understand a message you didn't give them. If you want someone to know something, tell them. Be direct. Tell the truth. Use clear sentences and facts. Tell them what you're thinking. The "hints and signals" thing is a farked up game women play when they're too timid to tell someone what they're thinking, or don't want to feel bad about a confrontation. So they drop hints hoping the guy will somehow read their mind and just guess correctly what he thinks she wants him to do but didn't actually tell him. Then she pushes the blame onto the guy for not getting it, much like what you are doing now.

Want someone to understand something? Farking tell them. Stop the hints and signals bullshiat and use your words to convey and idea like an adult. If you can't do that, it's your fault when things get messed up, not the guy's.

So, what would you say to a situation that is reversed? ie, the female is direct and the man gets super cagey?


He is married.
 
2014-05-25 10:45:13 PM

StoPPeRmobile: o'really: 99.998er: It really isn't that hard guys. Follow the basic guidelines and you will be OK:

*practice good hygiene
*dress nice
*be polite
*have a huge schlong with warts on the tip

Ribbed for her pleasure?

Didn't you read the article?


I did, but i have a shiat memory.

Refresh me please?
 
2014-05-25 10:55:35 PM

o'really: StoPPeRmobile: o'really: 99.998er: It really isn't that hard guys. Follow the basic guidelines and you will be OK:

*practice good hygiene
*dress nice
*be polite
*have a huge schlong with warts on the tip

Ribbed for her pleasure?

Didn't you read the article?

I did, but i have a shiat memory.

Refresh me please?


I had a joke when I posted but I forgot.
 
2014-05-25 10:59:00 PM
What guys who use this "pick up artist" bullshiat see in themselves:

ultimatejamesbond.files.wordpress.com


What any woman with any self esteem sees:

blogs.ocweekly.com
 
2014-05-25 11:04:06 PM

mudesi: What guys who use this "pick up artist" bullshiat see in themselves:




What any woman with any self esteem sees:


Meh, white knighting in a PUA thread won't get you laid.
 
2014-05-25 11:07:05 PM

mudesi: What guys who use this "pick up artist" bullshiat see in themselves:

[ultimatejamesbond.files.wordpress.com image 370x333]


What any woman with any self esteem sees:

[blogs.ocweekly.com image 314x314]


2.bp.blogspot.com

/GTFOML
 
2014-05-25 11:22:13 PM

o'really: StoPPeRmobile: o'really: 99.998er: It really isn't that hard guys. Follow the basic guidelines and you will be OK:

*practice good hygiene
*dress nice
*be polite
*have a huge schlong with warts on the tip

Ribbed for her pleasure?

Didn't you read the article?

I did, but i have a shiat memory.

Refresh me please?


Ribbed, teasing, article.
 
2014-05-25 11:45:25 PM

StoPPeRmobile: mudesi: What guys who use this "pick up artist" bullshiat see in themselves:

What any woman with any self esteem sees:

Meh, white knighting in a PUA thread won't get you laid.


LOL.  Do you know how easy it is to get laid?  This is the problem with you losers who think of yourselves as these pick up artists who know how to "play the game".

You don't have to go for the hottie.  There's tons of plain Jane's out there willing to fark your nerdy self.  If it's really all just about getting sex, what's the big fuss?  You don't need to do all that bullshiat.  First of all, it DOES NOT WORK.  Beautiful women know they're beautiful.  They will fark whoever they want and no amount negging and teasing is going to do anything for your pimpled, buck toothed, loser self.

Second of all, for the rare times that you do get laid, it wasn't because of anything you did.  If that were the case, you'd get laid all the time.  But you don't.  If you had to neg and tease and "play" 100 different women and one of them (FOR HER REASONS) decided to let you fark her, you have a 1% success rate.  That's not you being a pick up artist, that's just a farking numbers game.  A million monkeys on a million typewriters will write out a phrase from Shakespeare in a million years, and all that.
 
2014-05-25 11:48:57 PM
I don't know shiat about picking up chicks since a) they approach me and b) I was only single once at bar-going age and didn't go to any bars during that time -- for about three weeks when I was 22.  But all these are good tips if you're a pizza guy trying to flirt better tips out of female customers, trust me.  Make enough eye contact and an attractive girl will get distracted by something because she's DYING for you to look her up and down.  Probably helps to not be "creepy", aka ugly or desperate, though.

/from NYC area so having a personality, being an A-hole and having unwarranted confidence all come second nature
 
2014-05-25 11:57:52 PM
Someone got paid to write that shiat.

WTF is this world coming to?
 
2014-05-26 12:00:43 AM

Theaetetus: bboy: These are not bad tips.  In fact, they're good tips.

Guys who say they're outrageous or girls who act like they'd throw their drink in the face of any guy that tried them are saying that because they just read this article and the tips are worded in a way that makes them sound horrible.

Holy shiat, Elliot Rodger is posting  from beyond the grave!


Don't call him a PUA. He never even approached. He sat back and stared at girls and got mad that they didn't come to him. That little shiat had no game in him. Do not lay it on us. If he knew what the f*ck he was doing, he'd have gotten laid. PUA saves lives. It is precisely the set of tools needed to turn pissed off, socially paranoid losers into confident studs. Every time this happens, there is one less ticking timebomb in the world.
 
2014-05-26 12:03:24 AM

supayoda: Alternative for those who wish to maybe get laid: "Hi, I'm [insert name here]. Can I buy you a drink?" (Notice: ONE DRINK. While getting her sloshed might help some of you, it's generally not recommended, and you won't have spent a fortune on a dead end if she's not into you.) Follow with asking her name, where she's from, and about her interests and have a normal, non-awkward conversation before asking for her number. You're welcome, gentlemen.


Yes, you'd like me to spend my money on you, wouldn't you?

Nice try. Buy your own f*cking drinks.
 
2014-05-26 12:07:10 AM

fredbox: Okay, the standard PUA advice. Try it 25 times, you'll get told to fark off 10 times, make 9 contacts that go no farther than you buying her a drink or two, get 4 drinks poured on your head, and get 1 one night stand or on-site fark in the restroom (her 3rd of the night). Also, enjoy your HPV/HSV2.


PUAs don't buy drinks. And you keep humoring that fantasy that you have it better than us. We don't mind. We're in your bed, f*cking your wives right now. And we get away with it, because we actually understand human psychology. Your little karma tantrum doesn't look anything like the real world. You want men who have lots of sex to be punished for it, because that feels right. It's no different than slut shaming (which, by the way, your little rant also engages in, you misogynistic twat.)
 
2014-05-26 12:10:12 AM

mudesi: What guys who use this "pick up artist" bullshiat see in themselves:

[ultimatejamesbond.files.wordpress.com image 370x333]


What any woman with any self esteem sees:

[blogs.ocweekly.com image 314x314]


Yes, every woman who sleeps with guys she meets in bars is a broken, psychological train wreck.

Why do PUA critics get away with slut shaming?
 
2014-05-26 12:10:28 AM

sweatybronson: At first, I was like 'this guy's from Boston, everyone from Boston's an arsehole.'

And then I remembered that I have a pudgy ginger friend who's from Boston and has plenty of success with women and is currently dating a very attractive, nice, millionaire.

Generally speaking, though, a few of these are fine.

Number 4 (challenge her to something silly) and Number 10 (accusing her of hitting on you) are fine.

Whatever.

I was having a heart to heart with my roommate. He was all 'Brett, why don't we have girlfriends?' And I was all 'when was the last time you asked a girl out?' and he hadn't done it.  Within a few months, we both had girlfriends after being like 'oh, we should ask a girl out if we like her.'


The main thing about PUA and all that crap is that it forces you to actually ask girls out. So, yes, going from not asking girls out to asking them out is going to increase your success.

Talk to girls and be someone they like to be around (which depends on what kind of girl they are). Don't be creepy. At some point ask them out on a date. It's as simple as that.

Anyone who says differently is selling something.


Welcome to the friend zone.
Women like guys who are spontaneous and fun. At the same time they CLAIM to want a nice, stable guy who's never late with the mortgage and always remembers her birthday. They will marry the stable guy then fark around with the spontaneous guy.
Then blame Mr Stable for the divorce because he's boring and take half his money.
Anyone who tells you different is lying to you and they are not your friend. It's just the way it is.
 
2014-05-26 12:11:44 AM

Tommy Moo: misogynistic twat


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2014-05-26 12:11:49 AM

ReverendJynxed: audiblesmile: Or how about being yourself and not a fraud. Pretty pathetic to have to act or trick someone into liking you.


Approves.


Right. Like THAT'S gonna work. LOL
 
2014-05-26 12:14:02 AM

Tommy Moo: Theaetetus: bboy: These are not bad tips.  In fact, they're good tips.

Guys who say they're outrageous or girls who act like they'd throw their drink in the face of any guy that tried them are saying that because they just read this article and the tips are worded in a way that makes them sound horrible.

Holy shiat, Elliot Rodger is posting  from beyond the grave!

Don't call him a PUA. He never even approached. He sat back and stared at girls and got mad that they didn't come to him. That little shiat had no game in him. Do not lay it on us. If he knew what the f*ck he was doing, he'd have gotten laid. PUA saves lives. It is precisely the set of tools needed to turn pissed off, socially paranoid losers into confident studs. Every time this happens, there is one less ticking timebomb in the world.


the more ironic depressing thought will be all of the 'beta' women who will start tweeting and posting on how hot/attractive he was and how they would have gotten with him...if he would have asked them.  some of them probably knew him personally and could have asked him out.
 
2014-05-26 12:14:57 AM

mudesi: StoPPeRmobile: mudesi: What guys who use this "pick up artist" bullshiat see in themselves:

What any woman with any self esteem sees:

Meh, white knighting in a PUA thread won't get you laid.

LOL.  Do you know how easy it is to get laid?  This is the problem with you losers who think of yourselves as these pick up artists who know how to "play the game".

You don't have to go for the hottie.  There's tons of plain Jane's out there willing to fark your nerdy self.  If it's really all just about getting sex, what's the big fuss?  You don't need to do all that bullshiat.  First of all, it DOES NOT WORK.  Beautiful women know they're beautiful.  They will fark whoever they want and no amount negging and teasing is going to do anything for your pimpled, buck toothed, loser self.

Second of all, for the rare times that you do get laid, it wasn't because of anything you did.  If that were the case, you'd get laid all the time.  But you don't.  If you had to neg and tease and "play" 100 different women and one of them (FOR HER REASONS) decided to let you fark her, you have a 1% success rate.  That's not you being a pick up artist, that's just a farking numbers game.  A million monkeys on a million typewriters will write out a phrase from Shakespeare in a million years, and all that.


You clearly have no idea what the community is like. Those stats aren't anywhere near reality, so I'm going to spell it out from my own life for you: I approached hundreds of girls in college. By the time I graduated, I had kissed five or six and slept with three, in four years (all "plain Jane's, as you put it.) In grad school I got into Game and both the quantity and quality skyrocketed. You're suggesting the batting average for PUAs is around .010? Mine was more like .500 for a phone number, .300 for a kiss, and .200 for a "full close." One out of every five girls I approaced I ended up farking. That's a twenty fold increase in success rate. You want this stuff to not work, but you lose.
 
2014-05-26 12:22:54 AM

supayoda: Alternative for those who wish to maybe get laid: "Hi, I'm [insert name here]. Can I buy you a drink?" (Notice: ONE DRINK. While getting her sloshed might help some of you, it's generally not recommended, and you won't have spent a fortune on a dead end if she's not into you.)

Follow with asking her name -

considered a lame pickup line/opening...banal at best

where she's from- again a lame opening, who doesn't ask this; also try 'what's your major' if in college, why do you need to know where she is from ,are you planning on stalking her later?

and about her interests - at this point her interests are not you. really, what are your interests?  Why not ask her what her favorite website is?

and have a normal, non-awkward conversation before asking for her number. You're welcome, gentlemen.

You just met someone 30 seconds ago and you are continuing to talk to them, it is going to be awkward....I don't care if it is Tom Brady hitting on a woman, it will be an awkward conversation.

here is the truth, keep asking banal safe questions (even the ones above, have about 20 ready at your disposal...are you here with friends, come here often, etc.) if you asked five of them and gotten one word responses with no reciprocal questions, move on...otherwise continue the Barbara Walters interview in the hopes you can make her cry at the end of the night in disappointment.
 
2014-05-26 12:24:03 AM
Tommy Moo:
You clearly have no idea what the community is like. Those stats aren't anywhere near reality, so I'm going to spell it out from my own life for you: I approached hundreds of girls in college. By the time I graduated, I had kissed five or six and slept with three, in four years (all "plain Jane's, as you put it.) In grad school I got into Game and both the quantity and quality skyrocketed. You're suggesting the batting average for PUAs is around .010? Mine was more like .500 for a phone number, .300 for a kiss, and .200 for a "full close." One out of every five girls I approaced I ended up farking. That's a twenty fold increase in success rate. You want this stuff to not work, but you ...

So what percentage thought it was good enough to come back for more than one round?

There's a reason some of you need to play for numbers.
 
2014-05-26 12:29:56 AM

Hyjamon: thespindrifter: ciberido: thespindrifter: Ah, the treasured "Neg'"... seems to work perfectly on all the non-lesbo feminazis with low self esteem, but exponentially so if you are 1) rich, 2) built like Dwayne Johnson, 3) all of the above.

There's an xkcd for every Fark thread.

Too bad the percentage of women who could actually be smart enough to pull that off is so substantially small that it pretty much never happens in real life. That cartoon right there is nothing more than a Joss Wheadon "Ass kicking hot chick" absurdist fantasy.

If that were even remotely real, the club and bar 'scene' would disappear overnight. The reason why abusive assholes continue to exist is because women love it. Betas finish last, and Alphas win by basically using this exact ploy.

The real trick is to find the middle ground between being a sucker of a nice guy or turning into a tool. It's a rare skill.

I recall a bit about this topic....Women say they hate pick-up lines, but they have all heard one they loved. I would bet half the women in here wouldn't be sitting next to your guy tonight if it weren't because of some lame pick-up line.

it is tough to talk to women (or anyone for that matter) with a cold open, so you have to start somewhere, hence the cheesy lame pick-up line opposed to asking about someones opinion on the reconstruction of Germany following the second world war.


If a male came up to me and asked me my opinion on the reconstruction of Germany after WWII as his cold open, I would grab him and drag him back to my place without further ado.

/to show him my impressive collection of European history books
//if you know what I mean
///no, really, I've got some pretty cool volumes
 
2014-05-26 12:32:02 AM

fredbox: Tommy Moo:
You clearly have no idea what the community is like. Those stats aren't anywhere near reality, so I'm going to spell it out from my own life for you: I approached hundreds of girls in college. By the time I graduated, I had kissed five or six and slept with three, in four years (all "plain Jane's, as you put it.) In grad school I got into Game and both the quantity and quality skyrocketed. You're suggesting the batting average for PUAs is around .010? Mine was more like .500 for a phone number, .300 for a kiss, and .200 for a "full close." One out of every five girls I approaced I ended up farking. That's a twenty fold increase in success rate. You want this stuff to not work, but you ...

So what percentage thought it was good enough to come back for more than one round?

There's a reason some of you need to play for numbers.


to be fair, everyone needs practice.  how many of us got with someone once for a night and they were wanting to get married on the second date? (lesbians excluded)

to find a long-term thing, need to first learn to get into a short-term thing, so that when you see something for long-term potential, you can at least get it started.  yes, picking up someone in a bar probably won't be a successful endeavor that will lead to an engagement, but with those skills, when that bookish yet hot person joins your book club, you will be able to ask her out and see if it can become something of importance.  Otherwise you will sit there wishing she would make the first move (or life forces the issue), or you will make a terrible opening, or someone else more confident/aggressive will steal her away.
 
2014-05-26 12:34:46 AM

bingethinker: Summer Glau's Love Slave: bingethinker: Fail tag must be for Subby, who squats in the basement and never kids around with women.
You got all that from a 19 word headline?[c1.staticflickr.com image 437x400]

/I don't like roofies.
//They taste bad.

No, I got that from actually reading the article.


1/10.

That's some good trolling there, Lou.
 
2014-05-26 12:37:39 AM
Hyjamon:

to be fair, everyone needs practice.  how many of us got with someone once for a night and they were wanting to get married on the second date? (lesbians excluded)


Who said anything about getting married? Life's just fine with a FWB or two or three and the occasional hot tub party.
 
2014-05-26 12:39:16 AM

mementomoria: Hyjamon: thespindrifter: ciberido: thespindrifter: Ah, the treasured "Neg'"... seems to work perfectly on all the non-lesbo feminazis with low self esteem, but exponentially so if you are 1) rich, 2) built like Dwayne Johnson, 3) all of the above.

There's an xkcd for every Fark thread.

Too bad the percentage of women who could actually be smart enough to pull that off is so substantially small that it pretty much never happens in real life. That cartoon right there is nothing more than a Joss Wheadon "Ass kicking hot chick" absurdist fantasy.

If that were even remotely real, the club and bar 'scene' would disappear overnight. The reason why abusive assholes continue to exist is because women love it. Betas finish last, and Alphas win by basically using this exact ploy.

The real trick is to find the middle ground between being a sucker of a nice guy or turning into a tool. It's a rare skill.

I recall a bit about this topic....Women say they hate pick-up lines, but they have all heard one they loved. I would bet half the women in here wouldn't be sitting next to your guy tonight if it weren't because of some lame pick-up line.

it is tough to talk to women (or anyone for that matter) with a cold open, so you have to start somewhere, hence the cheesy lame pick-up line opposed to asking about someones opinion on the reconstruction of Germany following the second world war.

If a male came up to me and asked me my opinion on the reconstruction of Germany after WWII as his cold open, I would grab him and drag him back to my place without further ado.

/to show him my impressive collection of European history books
//if you know what I mean
///no, really, I've got some pretty cool volumes


before we head back to your place, how do you feel about whips?

www.themovieguys.net
 
2014-05-26 12:41:22 AM

audiblesmile: thespindrifter: Jim_Callahan: Someone should probably tell this guy that negging doesn't actually  work.  Sure, sometimes you'll still get laid, but it's more an "in spite of" thing where the woman is also there looking to get laid and she knows she won't have to put up with your annoying habits for more than a couple hours.

It'll rarely if ever  increase your chances, beyond just padding out the conversation a bit.

If negging doesn't work, then please explain to me why it's the oldest and most used tool in the PUA's toolbox? Yeah, about that: women who hang out in bars are damaged goods. They are either there to drown their sorrows, or like you said: to get laid. The kind of women who pick up strange from bars have esteem issues, and are easily manipulated by screwing with their self worth. They want to believe that they are doing the choosing, and rejection weakens them. I've seen it done over and over again for decades. The best manipulator wins every time. Women with baggage are ripe for the picking by a pickup artist, and that is the bulk of women who need a bar to find a lay.

Do you find being a narrow minded blow hard helps to attract women?


It sure helps him attract my ignore list.
 
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