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(Rolling Stone)   Judge calls lawyer suing Led Zeppelin "unprofessional and offensive." Just like all those promises of a reunion tour   ( rollingstone.com) divider line
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2014-05-25 03:13:07 PM  
They did probably steal it, but I don't care. They made it better.
 
2014-05-25 04:32:26 PM  
Lesser artists borrow, great artists steal.

Igor Stravinksy
 
2014-05-25 04:45:23 PM  
If lawyer'snot fit, you must aquit
 
2014-05-25 05:24:42 PM  
When was a tour promised?  Robert Plant has always said he wouldn't do it.
 
2014-05-25 05:29:41 PM  
Can you infringe copyright if it's only a few seconds at most?
 
2014-05-25 06:24:10 PM  
Oh so this lawyer is like a patent troll
 
2014-05-25 06:30:34 PM  
Glad I kept reading, because as much of a douchebag this lawyer is, he's right:  Led Zeppelin DID steal the intro to STAIRWAY from Taurus by Spirit.  

I'm just surprised it took them this long to be sued.


Anyone who's heard both songs would agree.


/unless they were uncool
//you're not uncool. are you?
 
2014-05-25 06:40:15 PM  
Isn't there some kind of statute of limitations on blimps that burst into flame?
 
2014-05-25 06:47:29 PM  

davynelson: I'm just surprised it took them this long to be sued.


Which is why Zeppelin will probably win, you have to protect your IP promptly, which is one of the reasons why people issue DMCA take downs against just about anything that might even be distantly construed as violating copyright, otherwise you lose the right to protect it.
 
2014-05-25 06:59:11 PM  

Mark Ratner: They did probably steal it, but I don't care. They made it better.


I know right. Just like Vanilla ICE and Under Pressure.
 
2014-05-25 07:03:26 PM  

LrdPhoenix: davynelson: I'm just surprised it took them this long to be sued.

Which is why Zeppelin will probably win, you have to protect your IP promptly, which is one of the reasons why people issue DMCA take downs against just about anything that might even be distantly construed as violating copyright, otherwise you lose the right to protect it.


"Generally, there is a three-year statute of limitations on copyright cases. The start date, however, is renewed every time a new alleged infringement takes place, which includes the release of a DVD, Blu-ray disc, or iTunes download." Forbes
 
2014-05-25 07:12:33 PM  

LrdPhoenix: davynelson: I'm just surprised it took them this long to be sued.

Which is why Zeppelin will probably win, you have to protect your IP promptly, which is one of the reasons why people issue DMCA take downs against just about anything that might even be distantly construed as violating copyright, otherwise you lose the right to protect it.


I don't think you lose a copyright if you don't defend it. That applies to trademarks.


DrewCurtisJr: Mark Ratner: They did probably steal it, but I don't care. They made it better.

I know right. Just like Vanilla ICE and Under Pressure.


Well, I'm not going to offer my worthless opinion on whether Led Zeppelin made the stuff they stole better, but I'm willing to say they certainly made it louder.
 
2014-05-25 07:15:47 PM  

Secret Agent X23: LrdPhoenix: davynelson: I'm just surprised it took them this long to be sued.

Which is why Zeppelin will probably win, you have to protect your IP promptly, which is one of the reasons why people issue DMCA take downs against just about anything that might even be distantly construed as violating copyright, otherwise you lose the right to protect it.

I don't think you lose a copyright if you don't defend it. That applies to trademarks.


DrewCurtisJr: Mark Ratner: They did probably steal it, but I don't care. They made it better.

I know right. Just like Vanilla ICE and Under Pressure.

Well, I'm not going to offer my worthless opinion on whether Led Zeppelin made the stuff they stole better, but I'm willing to say they certainly made it louder.


Not louder, bet better. I love em.
 
2014-05-25 07:18:54 PM  

DrewCurtisJr: Mark Ratner: They did probably steal it, but I don't care. They made it better.

I know right. Just like Vanilla ICE and Under Pressure.


Oblig
 
2014-05-25 07:30:12 PM  

Mark Ratner: Not louder, bet better. I love em.


I love 'em too; I was onboard back in the days when they were a going concern. Now, I might be willing to say I prefer their versions of most of their "borrowed" or "covered" stuff. I just recoil at the use of the word "better."
 
2014-05-25 08:30:57 PM  

Secret Agent X23: LrdPhoenix: davynelson: I'm just surprised it took them this long to be sued.

Which is why Zeppelin will probably win, you have to protect your IP promptly, which is one of the reasons why people issue DMCA take downs against just about anything that might even be distantly construed as violating copyright, otherwise you lose the right to protect it.

I don't think you lose a copyright if you don't defend it. That applies to trademarks.


Yep, you're right. Copyright (and patents) don't require constant protection.

... that said, there is the Laches Doctrine, which says you can't sit on your thumbs and wait for millions of damages to accrue before bringing suit, and that "unreasonable delay" means you lose those damages. But here, the issue is a new re-release of Zeppelin's album.
 
2014-05-25 09:03:02 PM  

LewDux: DrewCurtisJr: Mark Ratner: They did probably steal it, but I don't care. They made it better.

I know right. Just like Vanilla ICE and Under Pressure.

Oblig


I was a senior in high school when Vanilla Ice came out. I had a fellow senior buddy who loved this song and every Friday night would end up getting wine coolers and luring freshmen girls over to his house.   For some strange reason whenever I hear or see Vanilla Ice I think of this creepy friend of mine and the little dirt chicks he was screwing.

Gross.
 
2014-05-25 09:22:31 PM  

davynelson: Glad I kept reading, because as much of a douchebag this lawyer is, he's right:  Led Zeppelin DID steal the intro to STAIRWAY from Taurus by Spirit.  

I'm just surprised it took them this long to be sued.


Anyone who's heard both songs would agree.


/unless they were uncool
//you're not uncool. are you?


Never heard of it before, just googled it.

You're right, the Zeppelin version is better, it nixes a lot of the airy other effects and just focuses on the clean(ish) guitar strumming.  Course I'm a fan of guitars, not navel gazing new-age stuff.
 
2014-05-26 06:34:34 AM  

The Googles Do Nothing: LewDux: DrewCurtisJr: Mark Ratner: They did probably steal it, but I don't care. They made it better.

I know right. Just like Vanilla ICE and Under Pressure.

Oblig

I was a senior in high school when Vanilla Ice came out. I had a fellow senior buddy who loved this song and every Friday night would end up getting wine coolers and luring freshmen girls over to his house.   For some strange reason whenever I hear or see Vanilla Ice I think of this creepy friend of mine and the little dirt chicks he was screwing.

Gross.


Alright, alright, alright...
 
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