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(New Scientist)   "The Sefer Torah has unique symbolic value... Such an object is supposed to be treated with extreme respect and care. I find it hard to believe that shooting it into space can fall under this heading"   (newscientist.com) divider line 38
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2014-05-25 12:05:23 PM  
I'm sure it'll be kept safe...
www.supermotors.net
 
2014-05-25 01:13:28 PM  
Wow. Usually we want to shoot stuff and people into space we don't want, not the stuff we want to "protect".
 
2014-05-25 01:17:57 PM  
This is something I've never understood about Judaism. The strict adherence to rules in the most technical of respects but totally bending the original intent or meaning. Elaborate machines designed to adhere to religious dogma while breaking it in-spirit. The reality is, that if that is put into space, it's actual lasted expectancy is much higher than here on Earth where God's creation is more likely to destroy it. The real point here is that some important Jew thought it would be too much of a hassle and has decided to oppose it in a legal-structural manner befitting all the other cheats the same people use to get out of their other religious strictures. This isn't maligning all Jews, just the ones whom claim to follow the letter of their own ruleset in the make-belief that God is somehow fooled by their trickery or rewards them for being clever. I could use other words but this post is already bordering on anti-Semitic so I'll leave it at that.
 
2014-05-25 01:34:54 PM  
Meh. Seems to me (IANAJ) that it's the content...the meaning, the inspiration...that should be considered sacred, not a piece of paper you copy it on.
 
2014-05-25 01:58:21 PM  
Kind of ironic considering that any Earth-destroying apocalypse will likely be due to religion.
 
2014-05-25 02:01:14 PM  

Sanguine Dawn: This is something I've never understood about Judaism. The strict adherence to rules in the most technical of respects but totally bending the original intent or meaning. Elaborate machines designed to adhere to religious dogma while breaking it in-spirit. The reality is, that if that is put into space, it's actual lasted expectancy is much higher than here on Earth where God's creation is more likely to destroy it. The real point here is that some important Jew thought it would be too much of a hassle and has decided to oppose it in a legal-structural manner befitting all the other cheats the same people use to get out of their other religious strictures. This isn't maligning all Jews, just the ones whom claim to follow the letter of their own ruleset in the make-belief that God is somehow fooled by their trickery or rewards them for being clever. I could use other words but this post is already bordering on anti-Semitic so I'll leave it at that.


Yeah, it seems many have no problems trying to pull a fast one on God. The spirit of the law doesn't exist.
 
2014-05-25 02:03:59 PM  

Sanguine Dawn: The reality is, that if that is put into space, it's actual lasted expectancy is much higher than here on Earth where God's creation is more likely to destroy it.


At first I was
www.deathandtaxesmag.com
but then I
Each document will be housed in a space-ready capsule designed to protect it from harsh radiation and temperature changes on the moon for at least 10,000 years.
 
2014-05-25 02:23:38 PM  

Nemo's Brother: Sanguine Dawn: This is something I've never understood about Judaism. The strict adherence to rules in the most technical of respects but totally bending the original intent or meaning. Elaborate machines designed to adhere to religious dogma while breaking it in-spirit. The reality is, that if that is put into space, it's actual lasted expectancy is much higher than here on Earth where God's creation is more likely to destroy it. The real point here is that some important Jew thought it would be too much of a hassle and has decided to oppose it in a legal-structural manner befitting all the other cheats the same people use to get out of their other religious strictures. This isn't maligning all Jews, just the ones whom claim to follow the letter of their own ruleset in the make-belief that God is somehow fooled by their trickery or rewards them for being clever. I could use other words but this post is already bordering on anti-Semitic so I'll leave it at that.

Yeah, it seems many have no problems trying to pull a fast one on God. The spirit of the law doesn't exist.


Ugh... I wrote a whole long explanation that got sucked into the ether...

tl:dr - Modern Rabbinic Judaism is a legal system. And like all legal systems has loopholes and workarounds. Stop relating to it like you would Christianity which is an absolutist religion.
 
2014-05-25 02:27:41 PM  

tjassen: Nemo's Brother: Sanguine Dawn: This is something I've never understood about Judaism. The strict adherence to rules in the most technical of respects but totally bending the original intent or meaning. Elaborate machines designed to adhere to religious dogma while breaking it in-spirit. The reality is, that if that is put into space, it's actual lasted expectancy is much higher than here on Earth where God's creation is more likely to destroy it. The real point here is that some important Jew thought it would be too much of a hassle and has decided to oppose it in a legal-structural manner befitting all the other cheats the same people use to get out of their other religious strictures. This isn't maligning all Jews, just the ones whom claim to follow the letter of their own ruleset in the make-belief that God is somehow fooled by their trickery or rewards them for being clever. I could use other words but this post is already bordering on anti-Semitic so I'll leave it at that.

Yeah, it seems many have no problems trying to pull a fast one on God. The spirit of the law doesn't exist.

Ugh... I wrote a whole long explanation that got sucked into the ether...

tl:dr - Modern Rabbinic Judaism is a legal system. And like all legal systems has loopholes and workarounds. Stop relating to it like you would Christianity which is an absolutist religion.


Well it's usually not helpful to explain things to anti-Semitic trolls anyway. I wouldn't worry about it if I were you.
 
2014-05-25 02:28:19 PM  
Now the gargoyles and the Britannians can have access to it.
 
2014-05-25 02:31:58 PM  

tjassen: Nemo's Brother: Sanguine Dawn: This is something I've never understood about Judaism. The strict adherence to rules in the most technical of respects but totally bending the original intent or meaning. Elaborate machines designed to adhere to religious dogma while breaking it in-spirit. The reality is, that if that is put into space, it's actual lasted expectancy is much higher than here on Earth where God's creation is more likely to destroy it. The real point here is that some important Jew thought it would be too much of a hassle and has decided to oppose it in a legal-structural manner befitting all the other cheats the same people use to get out of their other religious strictures. This isn't maligning all Jews, just the ones whom claim to follow the letter of their own ruleset in the make-belief that God is somehow fooled by their trickery or rewards them for being clever. I could use other words but this post is already bordering on anti-Semitic so I'll leave it at that.

Yeah, it seems many have no problems trying to pull a fast one on God. The spirit of the law doesn't exist.

Ugh... I wrote a whole long explanation that got sucked into the ether...

tl:dr - Modern Rabbinic Judaism is a legal system. And like all legal systems has loopholes and workarounds. Stop relating to it like you would Christianity which is an absolutist religion.


Well, considering that Christianity is supposed to be "be cool to others" and yet the Library of Congress couldn't hold all the books written on how to fark people up the ass with a chainsaw while still being considered a good Christian, I think they are complaining modern Judaism is stealing Christianity's proprietary schtick
 
2014-05-25 02:32:01 PM  

knight_on_the_rail: tjassen: Nemo's Brother: Sanguine Dawn: This is something I've never understood about Judaism. The strict adherence to rules in the most technical of respects but totally bending the original intent or meaning. Elaborate machines designed to adhere to religious dogma while breaking it in-spirit. The reality is, that if that is put into space, it's actual lasted expectancy is much higher than here on Earth where God's creation is more likely to destroy it. The real point here is that some important Jew thought it would be too much of a hassle and has decided to oppose it in a legal-structural manner befitting all the other cheats the same people use to get out of their other religious strictures. This isn't maligning all Jews, just the ones whom claim to follow the letter of their own ruleset in the make-belief that God is somehow fooled by their trickery or rewards them for being clever. I could use other words but this post is already bordering on anti-Semitic so I'll leave it at that.

Yeah, it seems many have no problems trying to pull a fast one on God. The spirit of the law doesn't exist.

Ugh... I wrote a whole long explanation that got sucked into the ether...

tl:dr - Modern Rabbinic Judaism is a legal system. And like all legal systems has loopholes and workarounds. Stop relating to it like you would Christianity which is an absolutist religion.

Well it's usually not helpful to explain things to anti-Semitic trolls anyway. I wouldn't worry about it if I were you.


Yeah, tilting at windmills and all that...
Sometimes I just can't help myself.
 
2014-05-25 02:41:36 PM  
Will they then use it as an excuse to lay claim like they did with the Wall?
 
2014-05-25 02:55:49 PM  
I'm conflicted about this. On one hand, the few pounds wastes precious rocket fuel, on the other, it's a great start. (As in: "What do you call 10,00 lawyers at the bottom of the ocean?")
As far as propaganda goes, it's probably less effective than dumping watchtowers in laundromats.

i718.photobucket.com
 
2014-05-25 03:12:14 PM  
assets.fancueva.com
Sure, Ser Jorah is a nice guy but there's really nothing all that unique about being friend-zoned....
 
2014-05-25 03:37:27 PM  

Hiro-ACiD: [assets.fancueva.com image 650x366]
Sure, Ser Jorah is a nice guy but there's really nothing all that unique about being friend-zoned....


Ser Notgettinany
 
2014-05-25 03:39:35 PM  
We should send ALL of the religious texts into space.
 
2014-05-25 03:56:39 PM  

knight_on_the_rail: Well it's usually not helpful to explain things to anti-Semitic trolls anyway. I wouldn't worry about it if I were you.


What was anti-Semitic about what was written?  Disagreeing with a religion and not understanding their inner peculiarities, and calling it on some odd twists and BS, isn't necessarily a bad thing.  I perpetrated more anti-Semitism playing Cards Against Humanity last night than anything Sanguine Dawn posted.

Also, long short answer for Sanguine Dawn : Judaism is more of an orthopraxic religion, not orthodoxic.
 
2014-05-25 04:10:30 PM  

Duck_of_Doom: knight_on_the_rail: Well it's usually not helpful to explain things to anti-Semitic trolls anyway. I wouldn't worry about it if I were you.

What was anti-Semitic about what was written?  Disagreeing with a religion and not understanding their inner peculiarities, and calling it on some odd twists and BS, isn't necessarily a bad thing.  I perpetrated more anti-Semitism playing Cards Against Humanity last night than anything Sanguine Dawn posted.

Also, long short answer for Sanguine Dawn : Judaism is more of an orthopraxic religion, not orthodoxic.


Nemo's brother is a troll.
 
2014-05-25 04:11:31 PM  
This is a great idea. Unless, of course, we nuke the moon. Not to mention that the Russians want to start colonizing by 2020 and the Chinese want to turn it into the Death Star.
 
2014-05-25 04:33:00 PM  
Tough shiat, you only own the copies you own.
 
2014-05-25 04:40:38 PM  
Keep Space Religion Free
 
2014-05-25 04:41:04 PM  

knight_on_the_rail: Duck_of_Doom: knight_on_the_rail: Well it's usually not helpful to explain things to anti-Semitic trolls anyway. I wouldn't worry about it if I were you.

What was anti-Semitic about what was written?  Disagreeing with a religion and not understanding their inner peculiarities, and calling it on some odd twists and BS, isn't necessarily a bad thing.  I perpetrated more anti-Semitism playing Cards Against Humanity last night than anything Sanguine Dawn posted.

Also, long short answer for Sanguine Dawn : Judaism is more of an orthopraxic religion, not orthodoxic.

Nemo's brother is a troll.


Got it, thanks for the clarification.
 
2014-05-25 05:52:35 PM  

tjassen: Nemo's Brother: Sanguine Dawn: This is something I've never understood about Judaism. The strict adherence to rules in the most technical of respects but totally bending the original intent or meaning. Elaborate machines designed to adhere to religious dogma while breaking it in-spirit. The reality is, that if that is put into space, it's actual lasted expectancy is much higher than here on Earth where God's creation is more likely to destroy it. The real point here is that some important Jew thought it would be too much of a hassle and has decided to oppose it in a legal-structural manner befitting all the other cheats the same people use to get out of their other religious strictures. This isn't maligning all Jews, just the ones whom claim to follow the letter of their own ruleset in the make-belief that God is somehow fooled by their trickery or rewards them for being clever. I could use other words but this post is already bordering on anti-Semitic so I'll leave it at that.

Yeah, it seems many have no problems trying to pull a fast one on God. The spirit of the law doesn't exist.

Ugh... I wrote a whole long explanation that got sucked into the ether...

tl:dr - Modern Rabbinic Judaism is a legal system. And like all legal systems has loopholes and workarounds. Stop relating to it like you would Christianity which is an absolutist religion.


Even shorter:
Judaism is about what you do, not what you believe.
/And doing right by the poor, hungry, ill, disadvantaged, handicapped, orphaned, aliens (strangers in your land) is mandatory.
 
2014-05-25 08:29:38 PM  
Maybe they're worried about a potential collision with

PIGS... IN... SPAAAAACE!
 
2014-05-25 08:36:21 PM  

Duck_of_Doom: knight_on_the_rail: Well it's usually not helpful to explain things to anti-Semitic trolls anyway. I wouldn't worry about it if I were you.

What was anti-Semitic about what was written?  Disagreeing with a religion and not understanding their inner peculiarities, and calling it on some odd twists and BS, isn't necessarily a bad thing.  I perpetrated more anti-Semitism playing Cards Against Humanity last night than anything Sanguine Dawn posted.

Also, long short answer for Sanguine Dawn : Judaism is more of an orthopraxic religion, not orthodoxic.


Thanks. I don't usually comment on religious threads. It certainly is peculiar to me and I'm an atheist (yes, I capitalized God, but only as a courtesy to genuinely religious people, like chewing with your mouth closed or swallowing before talking, or at least looking away)

/Also, I have no idea who Nemo is. Sanguine Dawn is a reference to Thief 2: The Metal Age.
 
2014-05-25 10:12:56 PM  
If you start thinking about any text written about magic, none of it makes any god damn sense.
 
2014-05-25 11:22:16 PM  
FTFA: Sending a sacred Jewish scroll to the moon could be just the beginning of an apocalypse-proof off-world backup of all culture and life on Earth

WTF?  Why are we bothing to try and preserve religion?  If all record of Earth religions were lost, we'd all be better off.  And in the unlikely event that the sky fairy IS real, he won't need an overly expensive time capsule to preserve religion.
 
2014-05-26 12:36:51 AM  

HindiDiscoMonster: Emposter: FTFA: Sending a sacred Jewish scroll to the moon could be just the beginning of an apocalypse-proof off-world backup of all culture and life on Earth

WTF?  Why are we bothing to try and preserve religion?  If all record of Earth religions were lost, we'd all be better off.  And in the unlikely event that the sky fairy IS real, he won't need an overly expensive time capsule to preserve religion.

yeah, I mean it's not like religion has at all influenced our culture and made us who we are as a species or anything...


If you're making a "those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it" argument, sure, that's a con.  Personally, I think the pros outweigh them.
 
2014-05-26 05:33:33 AM  
HindiDiscoMonster: it's not like religion has at all influenced our culture and made us who we are as a species or anything...

The assumption being that all influences are positive?  A likely story.

Curious as to how the moon, given its lack of atmosphere, is the best place to start dumping our sky-faery spam... unless the intention was disposal all along....
 
2014-05-26 06:01:03 AM  

nulluspixiusdemonica: HindiDiscoMonster: it's not like religion has at all influenced our culture and made us who we are as a species or anything...

The assumption being that all influences are positive?  A likely story.

Curious as to how the moon, given its lack of atmosphere, is the best place to start dumping our sky-faery spam... unless the intention was disposal all along....


Why are you expecting the reason to be logical? When has religion ever been particularly logical?
 
2014-05-26 02:22:24 PM  
Because there isn't enough junk in near-earth orbital space to begin with?
 
2014-05-26 03:24:40 PM  
This is a profoundly stupid idea.
 
2014-05-26 04:39:44 PM  
Throwing a religious text off the planet has unique symbolic value too.
 
2014-05-26 05:51:00 PM  

demaL-demaL-yeH: tjassen: Nemo's Brother: Sanguine Dawn: This is something I've never understood about Judaism. The strict adherence to rules in the most technical of respects but totally bending the original intent or meaning. Elaborate machines designed to adhere to religious dogma while breaking it in-spirit. The reality is, that if that is put into space, it's actual lasted expectancy is much higher than here on Earth where God's creation is more likely to destroy it. The real point here is that some important Jew thought it would be too much of a hassle and has decided to oppose it in a legal-structural manner befitting all the other cheats the same people use to get out of their other religious strictures. This isn't maligning all Jews, just the ones whom claim to follow the letter of their own ruleset in the make-belief that God is somehow fooled by their trickery or rewards them for being clever. I could use other words but this post is already bordering on anti-Semitic so I'll leave it at that.

Yeah, it seems many have no problems trying to pull a fast one on God. The spirit of the law doesn't exist.

Ugh... I wrote a whole long explanation that got sucked into the ether...

tl:dr - Modern Rabbinic Judaism is a legal system. And like all legal systems has loopholes and workarounds. Stop relating to it like you would Christianity which is an absolutist religion.

Even shorter:
Judaism is about what you do, not what you believe.
/And doing right by the poor, hungry, ill, disadvantaged, handicapped, orphaned, aliens (strangers in your land) is mandatory.


Someone should tell the bankers.
 
2014-05-26 11:54:38 PM  

tjassen: Christianity which is an absolutist religion


Wait what?
www.troll.me
 
2014-05-27 12:25:10 AM  

Fark like a Barsoomian: tjassen: Christianity which is an absolutist religion

Wait what?
[www.troll.me image 338x522]


From the good christians in Congress and on Fox News, it's obviously not ergative.
 
2014-05-27 12:25:51 AM  

ReverendJynxed: demaL-demaL-yeH: tjassen: Nemo's Brother: Sanguine Dawn: This is something I've never understood about Judaism. The strict adherence to rules in the most technical of respects but totally bending the original intent or meaning. Elaborate machines designed to adhere to religious dogma while breaking it in-spirit. The reality is, that if that is put into space, it's actual lasted expectancy is much higher than here on Earth where God's creation is more likely to destroy it. The real point here is that some important Jew thought it would be too much of a hassle and has decided to oppose it in a legal-structural manner befitting all the other cheats the same people use to get out of their other religious strictures. This isn't maligning all Jews, just the ones whom claim to follow the letter of their own ruleset in the make-belief that God is somehow fooled by their trickery or rewards them for being clever. I could use other words but this post is already bordering on anti-Semitic so I'll leave it at that.

Yeah, it seems many have no problems trying to pull a fast one on God. The spirit of the law doesn't exist.

Ugh... I wrote a whole long explanation that got sucked into the ether...

tl:dr - Modern Rabbinic Judaism is a legal system. And like all legal systems has loopholes and workarounds. Stop relating to it like you would Christianity which is an absolutist religion.

Even shorter:
Judaism is about what you do, not what you believe.
/And doing right by the poor, hungry, ill, disadvantaged, handicapped, orphaned, aliens (strangers in your land) is mandatory.

Someone should tell the bankers.


You're pregnant.
 
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