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(New York Daily News)   In the US, white collar criminals who get caught scamming billions from innocents spend a few years in elegant Federal prisons that are like country clubs. In Iran, those types of criminals get executed   (nydailynews.com) divider line 113
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2014-05-25 11:14:35 AM

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2014-05-25 11:49:44 AM
am I supposed to have a problem with this?
 
2014-05-25 11:51:26 AM
And China also.  Everybody forgets about China.  It used to be Poland but nowadays, it's China.
 
2014-05-25 11:52:08 AM
Once you start killin' bootstrappy entrepreneurial job-creators, how do you stop?
 
2014-05-25 11:53:16 AM
Wait, they don't go to federal PMITA prison?
 
2014-05-25 11:54:21 AM
Good. There's a deterrent lesson in there.
 
2014-05-25 11:55:16 AM
So capital punishment is now OK?  We can clean house of all the murderers?  Good, that will free up a lot of space.  I think rapists so go, too.
 
2014-05-25 11:55:20 AM
Because in Iran they're stealing from the regime, In America (and Europe) they are the regime.
 
2014-05-25 11:55:55 AM
There are no Federal prisons that are like country clubs. None. That myth is perpetuated by derps who otherwise spend their time cheering on people like Joe Arpaio.
 
2014-05-25 11:55:56 AM
Who won't they execute?
 
2014-05-25 11:56:16 AM
There's no shortage of rope
 
2014-05-25 11:56:55 AM
Well, that settles it then. We should all move to Iran. I hear it's nice over there.
 
2014-05-25 11:57:15 AM
Well, liberals/leftist are against the death penalty; and the ACLU frequently gets Capital punishment cases changed/overturned/thrown-out: so there is that. But NOW loves Sharia law; NAACP loves when a brother becomes Muslim; and of course, leftists love Mob rule and vigilanti justice. So yeah; Iran and the Mullahs are doing it right! +1 for global death penalties and hanging trees for everyone! Sheesh
 
2014-05-25 11:58:09 AM

Next week's Tom Sawyer: There are no Federal prisons that are like country clubs. None. That myth is perpetuated by derps who otherwise spend their time cheering on people like Joe Arpaio.


Still, it might be nice if our crooked financiers would even be in a position to learn this.
 
2014-05-25 11:59:33 AM

Next week's Tom Sawyer: There are no Federal prisons that are like country clubs. None. That myth is perpetuated by derps who otherwise spend their time cheering on people like Joe Arpaio.


Interesting, would you mind providing some proof? Not trying to argue, just curious.
 
2014-05-25 11:59:39 AM

Swampmaster: Well, liberals/leftist are against the death penalty; and the ACLU frequently gets Capital punishment cases changed/overturned/thrown-out: so there is that. But NOW loves Sharia law; NAACP loves when a brother becomes Muslim; and of course, leftists love Mob rule and vigilanti justice. So yeah; Iran and the Mullahs are doing it right! +1 for global death penalties and hanging trees for everyone! Sheesh


Are you calling the Bundy jackholes leftists?  They might have a problem with that.
 
2014-05-25 12:01:10 PM
Time to step up Texas, you ain't going to let some uppity Mooslim country one up ya are ya.
 
2014-05-25 12:04:16 PM

bluenovaman: Swampmaster: Well, liberals/leftist are against the death penalty; and the ACLU frequently gets Capital punishment cases changed/overturned/thrown-out: so there is that. But NOW loves Sharia law; NAACP loves when a brother becomes Muslim; and of course, leftists love Mob rule and vigilanti justice. So yeah; Iran and the Mullahs are doing it right! +1 for global death penalties and hanging trees for everyone! Sheesh

Are you calling the Bundy jackholes leftists?  They might have a problem with that.


Believing The Peoples grass should be free to use is pretty damn socialist. Just sayin'.
 
2014-05-25 12:04:17 PM
Actually, I think they walk here in the U.S., subs.

They may even get a bonus.
 
2014-05-25 12:05:35 PM
So submitter wants to repeal the bill of rights and be more like a religious theocracy which murders it's own citizens?

Brilliant.
 
2014-05-25 12:06:11 PM
Same as it ever was.
 
2014-05-25 12:06:59 PM
Which Unites States are you talking about, subby? How many banksters have been taken to trial much less convicted?
 
2014-05-25 12:07:34 PM

zimbomba63: So capital punishment is now OK?  We can clean house of all the murderers?  Good, that will free up a lot of space.  I think rapists so go, too.


Nope. Capital punishment, as in Iran, is more than the slap on the wrist that many white-collar criminals receive in the US. The argument is not that we should execute more people, but that the punishment of certain groups of criminals is not severe enough.
 
2014-05-25 12:07:46 PM

Shakespeare's Monkey: Next week's Tom Sawyer: There are no Federal prisons that are like country clubs. None. That myth is perpetuated by derps who otherwise spend their time cheering on people like Joe Arpaio.

Interesting, would you mind providing some proof? Not trying to argue, just curious.


http://www.nbcnews.com/id/6196954/ns/business-corporate_scandals/t/u lt imate-planner-set-lose-control-her-life/#.U4IULSh7QdU

It's not the proof you are looking for, but compare that to the supposed living conditions that were thrown around back when she was originally sentenced.
 
2014-05-25 12:08:42 PM

Shakespeare's Monkey: Next week's Tom Sawyer: There are no Federal prisons that are like country clubs. None. That myth is perpetuated by derps who otherwise spend their time cheering on people like Joe Arpaio.

Interesting, would you mind providing some proof? Not trying to argue, just curious.


Been there, done that. True it was some 30 years ago. But I keep in contact, and the fed's sure as hell haven't improved things.
 
2014-05-25 12:09:23 PM
Capital punishment advocates.    Cool, now we can clear out the prisons.

And even for as little as theft of some money.     Kudos to Farkers who are into the death penalty.
 
2014-05-25 12:10:11 PM

Slaxl: Because in Iran they're stealing from the regime, In America (and Europe) they are the regime.


This. Thread over.
 
2014-05-25 12:13:24 PM

Saners: Shakespeare's Monkey: Next week's Tom Sawyer: There are no Federal prisons that are like country clubs. None. That myth is perpetuated by derps who otherwise spend their time cheering on people like Joe Arpaio.

Interesting, would you mind providing some proof? Not trying to argue, just curious.

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/6196954/ns/business-corporate_scandals/t/u lt imate-planner-set-lose-control-her-life/#.U4IULSh7QdU

It's not the proof you are looking for, but compare that to the supposed living conditions that were thrown around back when she was originally sentenced.


paint all that crap green and it would look very much like the barracks I lived in while stationed in Panama - except this looks nicer.
 
2014-05-25 12:15:36 PM

Next week's Tom Sawyer: There are no Federal prisons that are like country clubs. None. .

That's what they want you to think .

 
2014-05-25 12:16:19 PM
Khosravi's lawyer, Gholam Ali Riahi, was quoted as saying that the death sentence was carried out without him being given any notice.

i doubt they have the appeals process we do so why bother the attorney.
 
2014-05-25 12:19:20 PM

AndreMA: zimbomba63: So capital punishment is now OK?  We can clean house of all the murderers?  Good, that will free up a lot of space.  I think rapists so go, too.

Nope. Capital punishment, as in Iran, is more than the slap on the wrist that many white-collar criminals receive in the US. The argument is not that we should execute more people, but that the punishment of certain groups of criminals is not severe enough.


I think we do need to execute OR make life in prison charges for these guys. The deterrents are just not there anymore and these people think "hmm...live the life for a few years or more and pay a minor penalty or some minor jail time....sign me up".

Risk/Reward is just not there.
 
2014-05-25 12:21:50 PM

toadist: Capital punishment advocates.    Cool, now we can clear out the prisons.

And even for as little as theft of some money.     Kudos to Farkers who are into the death penalty.


Noting that Iran punishes people far more severely than we do and feeling that we should be stricter is not the same as advocating the death penalty here.
 
2014-05-25 12:24:47 PM

hardinparamedic: So submitter wants to repeal the bill of rights


How is punishing people relative to the severity of their crimes against the bill of rights? Execution need be not cruel, as you well know with all your medical training, and it's certainly not unusual in the history of the US or abroad. All the other amendments in the bill just assure they'll get a fair trial and specify whether federal or state government will hear the case.

It actually makes some good sense for massive, society wide thefts to get the death penalty. A human has four score and ten years, give or take. So we'll be generous and say one human life is worth 75 years' agency. A crime is a violation of one person's agency to their own detriment. Murder, the ultimate personal crime, removes all future years of agency.

Everyone can agree a baby killer should be executed. Thus 75 years' agency or more is worth an automatic death sentence in most people's minds. So, all we have to do now is tally up how much agency a dollar is worth.

Minimum wage is $7.25 an hour at the lowest. Thus one dollar is worth 8.275 minutes of agency, minimum. 75 years is 3.94462e7 minutes. Thus, the minimum value of a human life is $4,766,912.39. So anyone who steals more than that should probably be eligible for the death penalty.
 
2014-05-25 12:25:20 PM

JC22: I think we do need to execute OR make life in prison charges for these guys. The deterrents are just not there anymore and these people think "hmm...live the life for a few years or more and pay a minor penalty or some minor jail time....sign me up".

Risk/Reward is just not there.


In principle I think some of them do deserve death, but I have no faith in the justice system to reach correct verdicts. In order to avoid irreversible errors by an inherently flawed system, I think the death penalty should be abolished.
 
2014-05-25 12:25:27 PM

Next week's Tom Sawyer: There are no Federal prisons that are like country clubs. None. That myth is perpetuated by derps who otherwise spend their time cheering on people like Joe Arpaio.


Minimum security federal prisons aren't literally like country clubs, but they also aren't gang-infested rape camps like state prisons. They are like cheap college dorms.

They don't even have walls, prisoners can walk away if they want. Which is sensible. It would be a waste of money to maintain armed lockdown for prisoners who are non-violent and compliant.
 
2014-05-25 12:36:15 PM
And exercising free speech will get you stoned to death.

Also, being a woman pretty much gets you stoned to death or boonga-boongaed

Not sure what point subtard was trying to make
 
2014-05-25 12:39:44 PM
I don't say this too often, but Iran is awesome in that respect.
 
2014-05-25 12:40:35 PM

IamKaiserSoze!!!: And exercising free speech will get you stoned to death.

Also, being a woman pretty much gets you stoned to death or boonga-boongaed

Not sure what point subtard was trying to make


Yeah I thought oppressive regime boners were just a right wing thing but apparently not.
 
2014-05-25 12:47:43 PM
Of course, Iran executes jaywalkers also. And people who speak loudly in theaters. And those guys over by the pool table, they're up to something, I just know it.
 
2014-05-25 12:50:24 PM

Next week's Tom Sawyer: There are no Federal prisons that are like country clubs. None. That myth is perpetuated by derps who otherwise spend their time cheering on people like Joe Arpaio.


Federal prison camps like the one Martha Stewart stayed in combined with work-release sentencing that allows rich people to leave the facility during the day are what give rise to the Club Fed idea.
 
2014-05-25 12:51:50 PM

hardinparamedic: So submitter wants to repeal the bill of rights and be more like a religious theocracy which murders it's own citizens?

Brilliant.


I mean, if a decent subset of the population wants a hyper-religious pseudo-moral theocratic state, we might as well get to kill a couple of bankers out of the deal.
 
2014-05-25 12:57:55 PM

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: hardinparamedic: So submitter wants to repeal the bill of rights and be more like a religious theocracy which murders it's own citizens?

Brilliant.

I mean, if a decent subset of the population wants a hyper-religious pseudo-moral theocratic state, we might as well get to kill a couple of bankers out of the deal.


We don't have that now?
 
2014-05-25 01:02:46 PM
Meh. In Iran you can get arrested for filming yourself dancing to pop music and posting it to youtube. Being killed for fraud there isn't that surprising.
 
2014-05-25 01:03:28 PM

Next week's Tom Sawyer: There are no Federal prisons that are like country clubs. None. That myth is perpetuated by derps who otherwise spend their time cheering on people like Joe Arpaio.


Country club? No, but still not terrible. I used to have classes with federal prisoners. Know what they wore to class? Street clothes. Know how they got to class? They walked a couple of blocks from the holding facility to the building we had classes in. They weren't even accompanied by guards. They were on the honor system and there was a time when they were expected to be back at the holding facility. Of course the fear of being sent to a real prison with real walls and real nasty violent criminals was enough to keep most of them from even dreaming of walking away but overall it didn't appear to be a terrible situation.
 
2014-05-25 01:04:17 PM
 
2014-05-25 01:04:22 PM

kvinesknows: am I supposed to have a problem with this?


About the Iranian thing or the US thing?
 
2014-05-25 01:06:24 PM
I've never seen Fark so happy about carrying out the death penalty.

Child-raping murderer?  Think of his civil rights!  This is an outrage

Man stealing money?  You know, we should be more like Iran.

Fark Iran and their religious bullshiat.  There's a reason Orange County is filled with Persians.
/including beautiful Persian women
 
2014-05-25 01:12:44 PM

hardinparamedic: So submitter wants to repeal the bill of rights and be more like a religious theocracy which murders it's own citizens?

Brilliant.


No he just wants bankers held to a higher standard. They destroy so much that they need to answer with their lives.
 
2014-05-25 01:13:25 PM

dennysgod: Time to step up Texas, you ain't going to let some uppity Mooslim country one up ya are ya.


How many billionaires do you think there are in Texas? No, not the ones in Dallas that make 50k a year and act like one...
 
2014-05-25 01:15:47 PM
If you guys really wanted the rich crooks to be punished, you would have demanded more out of Obama or not re-elected him.  He brought in the likes of Tim Geithner, and Eric Holder. Did you really believe the guilty would get their just dues?  

Idiots or kool-aid drinkers all of you are.
 
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