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(Superhero Hype)   Edgar Wright departs Marvel's Ant-Man over tiny differences. How Rudd   (superherohype.com) divider line 94
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2014-05-23 07:53:15 PM
 due to differences in their vision of the film

What "vision"? It's a movie called "Ant-Man".
 
2014-05-23 07:55:54 PM

Mugato: due to differences in their vision of the film

What "vision"? It's a movie called "Ant-Man".


And they've pretty much been following Wright's vision since 2006.  Weird story.
 
2014-05-23 08:24:48 PM
Interesting.  Ant-Man has seemed like a bizarre choice for a MCU movie to begin with.  I realize the character is closely tied to the Avengers, but but I'm having a hard time picturing the story translating into a compelling movie.

Then again, Marvel has been spot on so far, so if anyone can do it...
 
2014-05-23 08:42:03 PM
Is Aunt Man like Mr. Mom?
 
2014-05-23 08:57:59 PM
I don't know what to make of this news.  Marvel Studios has been knocking it out of the park with movies, but it is never good when a director is replaced this late in the game.
 
2014-05-23 09:21:51 PM

sprgrss: I don't know what to make of this news.  Marvel Studios has been knocking it out of the park with movies, but it is never good when a director is replaced this late in the game.


This, but in Marvel I trust
 
2014-05-23 10:00:11 PM
A director not being allowed to make the movie he wants to make isn't usually a good thing. And didn't he write it, too?
 
2014-05-23 10:00:41 PM
When the fark does the Luke Cage movie get made? Also when the fark does the Reid Fleming movie get made?
 
2014-05-23 10:01:35 PM
Does this mean we get a sequel to Shaun of the Dead?
 
2014-05-23 10:02:44 PM

Mugato: due to differences in their vision of the film

What "vision"? It's a movie called "Ant-Man".


How I assume it went down...

Studio: "Hey, instead of making him get small, can we make him get really big, like the Hulk?"
Edgar Wright: *flips table*
 
2014-05-23 10:02:46 PM

CaptainFatass: When the fark does the Luke Cage movie get made?


Will you except a Netflix series?
 
2014-05-23 10:06:57 PM

PanicMan: Mugato: due to differences in their vision of the film

What "vision"? It's a movie called "Ant-Man".

How I assume it went down...

Studio: "Hey, instead of making him get small, can we make him get really big, like the Hulk?"
Edgar Wright: *flips table*


Hmmmm?

Size-shifting from nearly microscopic to ~100 feet gigantic (both at extremes)
Maintains strength of normal size in shrunken state
 
2014-05-23 10:07:38 PM

PanicMan: Studio: "Hey, instead of making him get small, can we make him get really big, like the Hulk?"
Edgar Wright: *flips table*


Like this?

goodcomics.comicbookresources.com

/sad to see Wright leave but It's hard not to trust Marvel Studios right now.
 
2014-05-23 10:07:42 PM

Confabulat: A director not being allowed to make the movie he wants to make isn't usually a good thing. And didn't he write it, too?


There have been some disasters due to studio meddling, as well as some disasters due to directors given way too long a leash.  Marvel/Disney usually do a good job, though I'd like to hear more about what the specifics were that caused the riff.

From Marvel's perspective they need the movie to be successful, but they also need it act as a foundation for future MCU releases, especially the third Avengers movie.  Marvel likely feels that Avengers 3 trumps Ant-Man and thus put some restrictions on what can and can't happen in the Ant-Man solo movie.

I liked Scott Pilgrim, Hot Fuzz was decent, and I plan on seeing At World's End when I get the opportunity, so Wright seems to be a solid director.  I'm just curious what the big issues were that he and Marvel couldn't come to terms on.
 
2014-05-23 10:07:51 PM
As long as Ben Affleck is still the lead, I will go see it.
 
2014-05-23 10:09:39 PM
www.geekdip.com
 
2014-05-23 10:10:45 PM

TheMarchHare: As long as Ben Affleck is still the lead, I will go see it.


Wrong guy... he's playing the winged mammal not the six legged insect.

/I know, I know all insects have 6 legs but I needed something
 
2014-05-23 10:12:20 PM

Nefarious: TheMarchHare: As long as Ben Affleck is still the lead, I will go see it.

Wrong guy... he's playing the winged mammal not the six legged insect.

/I know, I know all insects have 6 legs but I needed something


He white, then he Ben Affleck
 
2014-05-23 10:12:47 PM
And in this thread I discover I know absolutely nothing about ant-man.
 
2014-05-23 10:22:22 PM
If he doesnt beat the shiat out of his wife at least once then they will not have my money.
 
2014-05-23 10:23:53 PM

Danger Avoid Death: [www.geekdip.com image 600x505]


toshironoronin.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-05-23 10:26:47 PM
Edgar Wright knows his movies and is a really nice guy on podcasts like Doug Loves Movies, but I personally cannot stand any of his films, and he had a hand in writing that Tintin abomination from a couple years ago, so this is probably not much of a loss.

I do like Edgar Wright a ton as a person, though, and he's pretty funny. I kinda wish that I liked his movies because he seems like a cool dude.
 
2014-05-23 10:29:31 PM

PanicMan: And in this thread I discover I know absolutely nothing about ant-man.


All you need to know:

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2014-05-23 10:35:43 PM

ArkAngel: Danger Avoid Death: [www.geekdip.com image 600x505]

[toshironoronin.files.wordpress.com image 850x983]


ArkAngel, your scan looks so much better than mine!

Also:

imageshack.com
 
2014-05-23 10:40:34 PM

PanicMan: Mugato: due to differences in their vision of the film

What "vision"? It's a movie called "Ant-Man".

How I assume it went down...

Studio: "Hey, instead of making him get small, can we make him get really big, like the Hulk?"
Edgar Wright: *flips table*


Yes, Marvel, who created Ant-Man, doesn't understand Ant-Man.  I'm sure that's exactly how it went down.
 
2014-05-23 10:44:51 PM
Didn't Ant-Man die in one of the Avengers cartoons? It was a heavy thing to lay on an otherwise innocent little story.
 
2014-05-23 10:48:34 PM

Mentat: Yes, Marvel, who created Ant-Man, doesn't understand Ant-Man. I'm sure that's exactly how it went down.


Well, maybe it's Disney, who bought Marvel, that didn't understand Ant-Man:

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2014-05-23 10:49:20 PM

Mugato: due to differences in their vision of the film

What "vision"? It's a movie called "Ant-Man".


I didn't think Vision was supposed to be in this movie anyway.
 
2014-05-23 10:50:51 PM

jocutus: Mentat: Yes, Marvel, who created Ant-Man, doesn't understand Ant-Man. I'm sure that's exactly how it went down.

Well, maybe it's Disney, who bought Marvel, that didn't understand Ant-Man:

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Kevin Feige is the head of the studio.  He knows Marvel comics.
 
2014-05-23 10:55:35 PM

jocutus: ArkAngel: Danger Avoid Death: [www.geekdip.com image 600x505]

[toshironoronin.files.wordpress.com image 850x983]

ArkAngel, your scan looks so much better than mine!

Also:

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So he's a cross between Tony Stark and Deadpool?
 
2014-05-23 11:01:05 PM

sprgrss: Kevin Feige is the head of the studio. He knows Marvel comics.


That's why its difficult to understand what's happening behind the scenes.  He was trying to make this for six years, Feige must have known and understood what was planned before this got approved.  What changed or who changed their mind?
 
2014-05-23 11:01:08 PM

TuteTibiImperes: jocutus: ArkAngel: Danger Avoid Death: [www.geekdip.com image 600x505]

[toshironoronin.files.wordpress.com image 850x983]

ArkAngel, your scan looks so much better than mine!

Also:

[imageshack.com image 700x276]

So he's a cross between Tony Stark and Deadpool?


There are two Ant-Men that will be featured in the movie.  There have been 3 in the comics

Hank Pym

Biophysicist and Security Operations Center expert  Dr. Henry 'Hank' Pym decided to become a superhero after discovering a chemical substance (Pym Particles) that would allow the user to alter his size. Armed with a helmet that could control ants, Pym would shrink down to the size of an insect to become the mystery-solving Ant-Man. He soon shared his discovery with his girlfriend, The duo would become founding members of the. Leaving his original persona vacant, his successors have taken up the role of Ant-Man while Pym explored these other identities.

Scott Lang

Scott Lang was a thief who first became Ant-Man after stealing Henry Pym's Ant-Man suit to save his daughter Cassie from a heart condition. Reforming from his life of crime, he soon took on a full-time career as Ant-Man with the encouragement of Hank Pym. He became an affiliate of the and most recently became a full-time member of the Avengers. For a period of time he dated He was later killed by the, and his daughter, Cassie, took up his heroic mantle as. He returned to life in 2011 in the mini series,  The Children's Crusade, but lost his daughter when she heroically sacrificed herself to stop a super charged Doctor Doom.
 
2014-05-23 11:01:09 PM
No real reason to watch now. If I was Wright I probably would've been tired of that script being stuck in dev hell for 8 farking years.
 
2014-05-23 11:01:56 PM

Mugato:  due to differences in their vision of the film

What "vision"? It's a movie called "Ant-Man".


I see what you did there
 
2014-05-23 11:03:59 PM
I was led to believe that it's the post-apocalyptic sequel to "Picnic", the 1955 Bill Holden film.
 
2014-05-23 11:11:11 PM
This movie is gonna suck
 
2014-05-23 11:28:30 PM
Not being a comic book reader and not knowing this character, just from the content of this thread I'd say the problem is Wright likely wanted to include stuff Marvel wanted out.  Beating women?  Not likely, not when Marvel needs to include more strong female characters in the movies, not more female victims.  Peeping? Come on, that's not gonna happen.  Isn't Tony Stark a more flawed character in the comics than in the movies?  I'm sure that's what kind of approach Marvel wants with their Ant Man character.
 
2014-05-23 11:40:22 PM

madcan34: This movie is gonna suck


It hasn't even started filming yet as far as I can tell, no reason to get hasty.

Nefarious: TuteTibiImperes: jocutus: ArkAngel: Danger Avoid Death: [www.geekdip.com image 600x505]

[toshironoronin.files.wordpress.com image 850x983]

ArkAngel, your scan looks so much better than mine!

Also:

[imageshack.com image 700x276]

So he's a cross between Tony Stark and Deadpool?

There are two Ant-Men that will be featured in the movie.  There have been 3 in the comics


So they're going to do introduce a character and have him hand over the mantle all in the same movie?  That's... different, but it could be good.  There have been people saying that first installments of new superhero movies need to move away from the boilerplate origin story plot.
 
2014-05-23 11:42:24 PM
Wait, didn't Hank Pym go very, very insane from the process?
 
2014-05-23 11:56:41 PM
Wait, wait, wait.

quote FTFA: "Michael Douglas stars as Hank Pym."

When the Hell did this happen?  Romancing the Stone Michael Douglas in the 80s, sure, but now?  Ok, a wife-beating old fart will always be welcomed on Fark with the misanthropes, but in a Marvel film?  I'll wait and see, I guess.  I just can't see him past Wall Street.  How the Hell are they working Paul Rudd into this same character?  Flashbacks/flash-forwards?  I thought that we had enough of this aort of poor writing with GRR Martin?  Oh, nvm.
 
2014-05-23 11:57:42 PM
 
2014-05-24 12:00:35 AM

TuteTibiImperes: madcan34: This movie is gonna suck

It hasn't even started filming yet as far as I can tell, no reason to get hasty.

Nefarious: TuteTibiImperes: jocutus: ArkAngel: Danger Avoid Death: [www.geekdip.com image 600x505]

[toshironoronin.files.wordpress.com image 850x983]

ArkAngel, your scan looks so much better than mine!

Also:

[imageshack.com image 700x276]

So he's a cross between Tony Stark and Deadpool?

There are two Ant-Men that will be featured in the movie.  There have been 3 in the comics

So they're going to do introduce a character and have him hand over the mantle all in the same movie?  That's... different, but it could be good.  There have been people saying that first installments of new superhero movies need to move away from the boilerplate origin story plot.


Well I think moving away from Pym, who slapped Wasp around, is good. Also given that Pym is a pacifist, I would really prefer to avoid that in the movie. Because the "Waugh I'm a pacifist but I also punch people in the face" got old in Earth's Mightiest Heroes, and that was quite well done, I really don't want to see that in a movie.

"I need to steal this super suit in order to save my daughter, because I'm a lovable rogue with a history of criminal activity" is more interesting and has a more (to me) appealing story for a movie.

Now, is it Pym or Lang who's the huge voyeuristic perv?
 
2014-05-24 12:02:18 AM
Lackofname:
Now, is it Pym or Lang who's the huge voyeuristic perv?

I believe that was O'Grady
 
2014-05-24 12:04:01 AM

Birnone: Not being a comic book reader and not knowing this character, just from the content of this thread I'd say the problem is Wright likely wanted to include stuff Marvel wanted out.  Beating women?  Not likely, not when Marvel needs to include more strong female characters in the movies, not more female victims.  Peeping? Come on, that's not gonna happen.  Isn't Tony Stark a more flawed character in the comics than in the movies?  I'm sure that's what kind of approach Marvel wants with their Ant Man character.


The pics I posted were from the more humorous "Irredeemable Ant-Man" series featruing Eric O'Grady - he won't be in the movie.  The Scott Lang character is sort of a redemption story as Nefarious outlined above.  And most recently Lang took over running the "Future Foundation" for Reed Richards, guiding super-genius and super-powered children from around the Marvel Universe.  Along the Way he uncovered a secret to how super-powers work in the Marvel universe which allowed him to go after Dr Doom for what he did to his daughter:

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I figured the movie would feature Lang stealing a prototype suit from Pym right before he planned to unveil it.  Sort of a mashup of various Ant-Man stories. But I actually have no idea what they have planned.
 
2014-05-24 12:04:06 AM

Znuh: Wait, didn't Hank Pym go very, very insane from the process?


Ant-Man is supposed to be a little buggy.
 
2014-05-24 12:08:58 AM

Birnone: Not being a comic book reader and not knowing this character, just from the content of this thread I'd say the problem is Wright likely wanted to include stuff Marvel wanted out.  Beating women?  Not likely, not when Marvel needs to include more strong female characters in the movies, not more female victims.  Peeping? Come on, that's not gonna happen.  Isn't Tony Stark a more flawed character in the comics than in the movies?  I'm sure that's what kind of approach Marvel wants with their Ant Man character.


I find it upsetting that the only things a non comics fan knows about Ant-Man is that he "beats women" and "peeps" on women.

The STUPID Ant-Man that keeps getting posted here (the one in the shower) is not Hank Pym or Scott Lang. He's the later, dumber, annoying, juvenile anti-hero Ant-Man. He's the one they wrote to appeal to 13-year-old boys. I hate him.

Hank Pym, the original (and real) Ant-Man, was a genius inventor. The whole "wife beating" thing was ONE TIME, he backhanded his wife  while he was going insane. This is a woman who had been a superhero for years, and had been punched, stepped on, zapped, burned, and beat up in regular sparring matches with villains and heroes throughout her career. The artist on the comic drew the panel wrong (it wasn't supposed to look like Hank was pimp-slapping her) and, as was mentioned before, HE WAS INSANE AT THE TIME and he was lashing out.

It's the only time he struck Janet in anger, and he made up for it and apologized numerous times... Yet THIS STORY is the only thing people ever talk about. Never mind all the great things he did before and after that... For some reason his mental breakdown is the only thing anyone cares about.

This is even more maddening when we realize that Mr. Fantastic has verbally, physically, and emotionally abused his wife WAY more than Hank Pym ever did, that Peter Parker backhanded Mary Jane in almost exactly the same way (under similar "out of his mind" conditions) as Pym did, and that Wolverine outright KILLED his fiancee Mariko when she was poisoned... and nobody ever considers these defining moments for any of these guys.

Ant-Man is a great character, and he doesn't need all the stupid "shower peeping" buffoonery or the "wife beating" moment in his story. NEITHER of those are actually important to the character. Hank Pym's struggle with mental illness isn't necessary in the movies, just as Tony Stark's alcoholism wasn't necessary. Considering that the whole "wife beating" episode was a case of an artist going against what the writer intended, I'd be fine if the whole thing was erased from any other version of Hank Pym-- Especially the MCU version.

As for the shower peeping Eric O'Grady, I'd be fine if he never existed at all. He's a stupid character made to appeal to fans of Deadpool. He's so 1990s he pisses grunge and shiats a combination of flannel and "OUTRAGEOUS" one-liners.
 
2014-05-24 12:11:25 AM

MylesHeartVodak: Wait, wait, wait.

quote FTFA: "Michael Douglas stars as Hank Pym."

When the Hell did this happen?  Romancing the Stone Michael Douglas in the 80s, sure, but now?  Ok, a wife-beating old fart will always be welcomed on Fark with the misanthropes, but in a Marvel film?  I'll wait and see, I guess.  I just can't see him past Wall Street.  How the Hell are they working Paul Rudd into this same character?  Flashbacks/flash-forwards?  I thought that we had enough of this aort of poor writing with GRR Martin?  Oh, nvm.


Not wife-beating...wife-eating.

Nom nom
 
2014-05-24 12:18:52 AM

MylesHeartVodak: Wait, wait, wait.

quote FTFA: "Michael Douglas stars as Hank Pym."

When the Hell did this happen?  Romancing the Stone Michael Douglas in the 80s, sure, but now?  Ok, a wife-beating old fart will always be welcomed on Fark with the misanthropes, but in a Marvel film?  I'll wait and see, I guess.  I just can't see him past Wall Street.  How the Hell are they working Paul Rudd into this same character?  Flashbacks/flash-forwards?  I thought that we had enough of this aort of poor writing with GRR Martin?  Oh, nvm.


They seem to be setting Pym up as a mentor character for Scott Lang.
 
2014-05-24 12:19:27 AM
Word has it Wright wanted a slight delay & Marvel said "No."

/I think his cowriter, Joe Cornish who did Attack the Block will pick up the reigns. I just think Wright couldn't find a way to make it connect with the other MCU films.
 
2014-05-24 12:20:20 AM

Nix Nightbird: It's the only time he struck Janet in anger, and he made up for it and apologized numerous times... Yet THIS STORY is the only thing people ever talk about. Never mind all the great things he did before and after that... For some reason his mental breakdown is the only thing anyone cares about.


Well, you can thank the Marvel writers for using it as a running gag for it being the only thing people remember about the character.
 
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