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2014-05-23 07:44:12 PM  
This gets greened?

I guess my A-Team reference was too subtle...
 
2014-05-23 08:39:18 PM  

real_headhoncho: This gets greened?

I guess my A-Team reference was too subtle...


Welcome to Fark.

Greenlites happen all in accordance to His plan.
 
2014-05-23 09:02:36 PM  
if you french fry when you're supposed to pizza, you're gonna have a bad time

/artillery is a fickle mistress
 
2014-05-23 09:03:31 PM  
media3.giphy.com

data3.whicdn.com
 
2014-05-23 09:03:36 PM  
Dog bites man.

/Next
 
2014-05-23 09:06:58 PM  
Michael Jackson trifecta in play?
 
2014-05-23 09:07:23 PM  
Meh. We used to do that as kids... with Jarts.
 
2014-05-23 09:08:35 PM  

real_headhoncho: This gets greened?

I guess my A-Team reference was too subtle...


I went with:
Best Korea thwarts US imperialistic dog backed invasion, sinking the entire criminal regime fleet
and
American sponsored pirates fire upon Best Korean naval vessels, failing to damage a single one despite firing thousands of rounds
 
2014-05-23 09:12:30 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: real_headhoncho: This gets greened?

I guess my A-Team reference was too subtle...

I went with:
Best Korea thwarts US imperialistic dog backed invasion, sinking the entire criminal regime fleet
and
American sponsored pirates fire upon Best Korean naval vessels, failing to damage a single one despite firing thousands of rounds


you have to try for more brevity.
 
2014-05-23 09:13:12 PM  
We're eventually going to end up in another war with Best Korea.  I just don't see a way out of it at this point.  That mess of a government is just too self-perpetuating, and too good at brainwashing the population for this to end up going any other way.

As much as I hate war, and as much as I wish we could avoid it, I'm afraid that the longer we manage to keep a pseudo-peace at this point the worse the eventual war is going to be.  The Norks already have nuclear weapons.  What happens when they get fusion weapons and ICBMs?  Are the generals who actually run the country going to understand the concept that they and their country will not survive a nuclear war when they've been indoctrinated since birth that Best Korea is militarily superior to every other country on the planet combined?

Because if they're not as terrified as we and the Russians are of the results of using nukes, then maybe it's better to have it happen sooner than later, while they still aren't really capable of deploying those nukes.
 
2014-05-23 09:20:37 PM  

DarkVader: We're eventually going to end up in another war with Best Korea.  I just don't see a way out of it at this point.  That mess of a government is just too self-perpetuating, and too good at brainwashing the population for this to end up going any other way.

As much as I hate war, and as much as I wish we could avoid it, I'm afraid that the longer we manage to keep a pseudo-peace at this point the worse the eventual war is going to be.  The Norks already have nuclear weapons.  What happens when they get fusion weapons and ICBMs?  Are the generals who actually run the country going to understand the concept that they and their country will not survive a nuclear war when they've been indoctrinated since birth that Best Korea is militarily superior to every other country on the planet combined?

Because if they're not as terrified as we and the Russians are of the results of using nukes, then maybe it's better to have it happen sooner than later, while they still aren't really capable of deploying those nukes.


You need to take your pills again.     No war with Korea any time soon.

Relax
 
2014-05-23 09:20:48 PM  
Stop Shelling yourself! Stop shelling yourself!
 
2014-05-23 09:21:25 PM  

DarkVader: We're eventually going to end up in another war with Best Korea.  I just don't see a way out of it at this point.  That mess of a government is just too self-perpetuating, and too good at brainwashing the population for this to end up going any other way.

As much as I hate war, and as much as I wish we could avoid it, I'm afraid that the longer we manage to keep a pseudo-peace at this point the worse the eventual war is going to be.  The Norks already have nuclear weapons.  What happens when they get fusion weapons and ICBMs?  Are the generals who actually run the country going to understand the concept that they and their country will not survive a nuclear war when they've been indoctrinated since birth that Best Korea is militarily superior to every other country on the planet combined?

Because if they're not as terrified as we and the Russians are of the results of using nukes, then maybe it's better to have it happen sooner than later, while they still aren't really capable of deploying those nukes.


I say we give it one more generations of Un's. Pretty good chance that the next generation won't be quite as bat shiat crazy, with the internet and all, and put this petty "war" aside.

Besides, as China's middle class continues to grow, they're gonna need a developing country to outsource their manufacturing to. North Korea is a much cheaper place to ship from than Africa.
 
2014-05-23 09:23:19 PM  

DarkVader: We're eventually going to end up in another war with Best Korea.  I just don't see a way out of it at this point.  That mess of a government is just too self-perpetuating, and too good at brainwashing the population for this to end up going any other way.

As much as I hate war, and as much as I wish we could avoid it, I'm afraid that the longer we manage to keep a pseudo-peace at this point the worse the eventual war is going to be.  The Norks already have nuclear weapons.  What happens when they get fusion weapons and ICBMs?  Are the generals who actually run the country going to understand the concept that they and their country will not survive a nuclear war when they've been indoctrinated since birth that Best Korea is militarily superior to every other country on the planet combined?

Because if they're not as terrified as we and the Russians are of the results of using nukes, then maybe it's better to have it happen sooner than later, while they still aren't really capable of deploying those nukes.


Jesus Mother of God.

Can you imagine the carnage if they develope phasers and Battlemechs, let alone protoculture based mecha?
 
2014-05-23 09:26:43 PM  

DarkVader: Are the generals who actually run the country going to understand the concept that they and their country will not survive a nuclear war when they've been indoctrinated since birth that Best Korea is militarily superior to every other country on the planet combined?


i would guess that the generals and a fair amount of the other higher ups know exactly where they stand. it's not like your average peasant there is getting put into positions of power anyway.
i do see them caught in a bad, "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation if dear leader wants to try something crazy though.
 
2014-05-23 09:27:43 PM  

Electrify: DarkVader: We're eventually going to end up in another war with Best Korea.  I just don't see a way out of it at this point.  That mess of a government is just too self-perpetuating, and too good at brainwashing the population for this to end up going any other way.

As much as I hate war, and as much as I wish we could avoid it, I'm afraid that the longer we manage to keep a pseudo-peace at this point the worse the eventual war is going to be.  The Norks already have nuclear weapons.  What happens when they get fusion weapons and ICBMs?  Are the generals who actually run the country going to understand the concept that they and their country will not survive a nuclear war when they've been indoctrinated since birth that Best Korea is militarily superior to every other country on the planet combined?

Because if they're not as terrified as we and the Russians are of the results of using nukes, then maybe it's better to have it happen sooner than later, while they still aren't really capable of deploying those nukes.

I say we give it one more generations of Un's. Pretty good chance that the next generation won't be quite as bat shiat crazy, with the internet and all, and put this petty "war" aside.

Besides, as China's middle class continues to grow, they're gonna need a developing country to outsource their manufacturing to. North Korea is a much cheaper place to ship from than Africa.


Maybe the next Great Leader prefers life in Switzerland to life in best korea and opens things up a little. After that, modern communications and K-pop ought to wrap things up pretty quickly.

/until then, we're always about three misplaced idiots from a korean bbq of tragic proportions
 
2014-05-23 09:28:52 PM  

DarkVader: We're eventually going to end up in another war with Best Korea.  I just don't see a way out of it at this point.  That mess of a government is just too self-perpetuating, and too good at brainwashing the population for this to end up going any other way.

As much as I hate war, and as much as I wish we could avoid it, I'm afraid that the longer we manage to keep a pseudo-peace at this point the worse the eventual war is going to be.  The Norks already have nuclear weapons.  What happens when they get fusion weapons and ICBMs?  Are the generals who actually run the country going to understand the concept that they and their country will not survive a nuclear war when they've been indoctrinated since birth that Best Korea is militarily superior to every other country on the planet combined?

Because if they're not as terrified as we and the Russians are of the results of using nukes, then maybe it's better to have it happen sooner than later, while they still aren't really capable of deploying those nukes.


If you think the fallout from Iraq was bad, think of having 1. decimated China's backyard and having a war right on it's border, 2. the refugee fallout of 20 million brainwashed, culture-shocked people and nowhere to send them. No farking way China, South Korea, or any of Asia's gonna take them in, 3. The angst of 20 million brainwashed people seeing the last of their god-kings killed by a country they view as worse than Satan, 4. We get stuck with the bill of fixing up that place, as usual.

If anything, either South Korea or Japan will wipe them off the map. After Japan being threatened this many times, they'd have no problem vaporizing the place, and are more than strong enough to do it (though there'd be many many casualties on the civilian and military side).

So nope, no war any time soon.
 
2014-05-23 09:29:02 PM  
This will go down as another glorious victory for the forever happy and always perfect Democratic Republic Of Korea.
 
2014-05-23 09:32:23 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: DarkVader: We're eventually going to end up in another war with Best Korea.  I just don't see a way out of it at this point.  That mess of a government is just too self-perpetuating, and too good at brainwashing the population for this to end up going any other way.

As much as I hate war, and as much as I wish we could avoid it, I'm afraid that the longer we manage to keep a pseudo-peace at this point the worse the eventual war is going to be.  The Norks already have nuclear weapons.  What happens when they get fusion weapons and ICBMs?  Are the generals who actually run the country going to understand the concept that they and their country will not survive a nuclear war when they've been indoctrinated since birth that Best Korea is militarily superior to every other country on the planet combined?

Because if they're not as terrified as we and the Russians are of the results of using nukes, then maybe it's better to have it happen sooner than later, while they still aren't really capable of deploying those nukes.

Jesus Mother of God.

Can you imagine the carnage if they develope phasers and Battlemechs, let alone protoculture based mecha?


We're too late.

http://www.theonion.com/articles/kim-jong-il-unfolds-into-giant-robo t, 8/
 
2014-05-23 09:38:34 PM  
i.kinja-img.com

"I can't, Obama, he's just too magnificent!"

And Great Leader claims victory yet again over South Korea:

www.awn.com
 
2014-05-23 09:39:25 PM  
I'm late to the party, but I would have used: Argument breaks out over who has the better pasties, Yoopers or Trolls.


/Born troll
 
2014-05-23 09:42:50 PM  
Something something something shells by the seashore.
 
2014-05-23 09:42:53 PM  
United States:  "IF YOU DON'T STOP THAT I'M TURNING THIS CAR AROUND!  DON'T THINK I DON'T MEAN IT!!"
 
2014-05-23 09:44:24 PM  

DarkVader: We're eventually going to end up in another war with Best Korea.  I just don't see a way out of it at this point.  That mess of a government is just too self-perpetuating, and too good at brainwashing the population for this to end up going any other way.

As much as I hate war, and as much as I wish we could avoid it, I'm afraid that the longer we manage to keep a pseudo-peace at this point the worse the eventual war is going to be.  The Norks already have nuclear weapons.  What happens when they get fusion weapons and ICBMs?  Are the generals who actually run the country going to understand the concept that they and their country will not survive a nuclear war when they've been indoctrinated since birth that Best Korea is militarily superior to every other country on the planet combined?

Because if they're not as terrified as we and the Russians are of the results of using nukes, then maybe it's better to have it happen sooner than later, while they still aren't really capable of deploying those nukes.


I think you are misreading the situation.  China will probably deal with them before such an intervention is necessary.  The last thing China wants is North Korea providing a reason to invade the North.
 
2014-05-23 09:47:25 PM  

DarkVader: We're eventually going to end up in another war with Best Korea.  I just don't see a way out of it at this point.  That mess of a government is just too self-perpetuating, and too good at brainwashing the population for this to end up going any other way.

As much as I hate war, and as much as I wish we could avoid it, I'm afraid that the longer we manage to keep a pseudo-peace at this point the worse the eventual war is going to be.  The Norks already have nuclear weapons.  What happens when they get fusion weapons and ICBMs?  Are the generals who actually run the country going to understand the concept that they and their country will not survive a nuclear war when they've been indoctrinated since birth that Best Korea is militarily superior to every other country on the planet combined?

Because if they're not as terrified as we and the Russians are of the results of using nukes, then maybe it's better to have it happen sooner than later, while they still aren't really capable of deploying those nukes.


We will be able to stop their fusion weapons with our photon torpedoes
 
2014-05-23 09:51:59 PM  

xanadian: United States:  "IF YOU DON'T STOP THAT I'M TURNING THIS CAR AROUND!  DON'T THINK I DON'T MEAN IT!!"


But MOM! He won't stay on his side of the car!!
 
2014-05-23 09:52:45 PM  
i.imgur.com

Artist's rendering.
 
2014-05-23 09:55:27 PM  
KJU was heard yelling "You sunk my battleship".
 
2014-05-23 10:02:23 PM  
Hey, where's Fred Thompson?
 
2014-05-23 10:02:58 PM  
There is only one way to win a war like this and that is by getting poop on a stick and chasing them with it
 
2014-05-23 10:04:38 PM  

Gergesa: DarkVader: We're eventually going to end up in another war with Best Korea.  I just don't see a way out of it at this point.  That mess of a government is just too self-perpetuating, and too good at brainwashing the population for this to end up going any other way.

As much as I hate war, and as much as I wish we could avoid it, I'm afraid that the longer we manage to keep a pseudo-peace at this point the worse the eventual war is going to be.  The Norks already have nuclear weapons.  What happens when they get fusion weapons and ICBMs?  Are the generals who actually run the country going to understand the concept that they and their country will not survive a nuclear war when they've been indoctrinated since birth that Best Korea is militarily superior to every other country on the planet combined?

Because if they're not as terrified as we and the Russians are of the results of using nukes, then maybe it's better to have it happen sooner than later, while they still aren't really capable of deploying those nukes.

I think you are misreading the situation.  China will probably deal with them before such an intervention is necessary.  The last thing China wants is North Korea providing a reason to invade the North.


Depends on who controls the White House. NK was singled out as a target for invasion to destabilize that area with the benefit of tying China down with unrelenting border and refugee woes.

It was the same paper that advocated the invasion of Iraq and Iran not to conquer but to destroy the supply chains of our "adversaries."

This paper was a roadmap to establishing a true, global, unchallenged American Empire, published by Cheney, Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz during the 90's.

Bush used Afghanistan to destabilize Iraq and listed the three countries as the Axis of Evil. There had been a real push to establish cause for invading Iran.

So long as Cheney's camp and the Bush family continue to support one another we are at risk for war with NK. And they can get a lot of support from Dominionist/quiverful types without ever throwing around religion.
 
2014-05-23 10:13:32 PM  

BolloxReader: Gergesa: DarkVader: We're eventually going to end up in another war with Best Korea.  I just don't see a way out of it at this point.  That mess of a government is just too self-perpetuating, and too good at brainwashing the population for this to end up going any other way.

As much as I hate war, and as much as I wish we could avoid it, I'm afraid that the longer we manage to keep a pseudo-peace at this point the worse the eventual war is going to be.  The Norks already have nuclear weapons.  What happens when they get fusion weapons and ICBMs?  Are the generals who actually run the country going to understand the concept that they and their country will not survive a nuclear war when they've been indoctrinated since birth that Best Korea is militarily superior to every other country on the planet combined?

Because if they're not as terrified as we and the Russians are of the results of using nukes, then maybe it's better to have it happen sooner than later, while they still aren't really capable of deploying those nukes.

I think you are misreading the situation.  China will probably deal with them before such an intervention is necessary.  The last thing China wants is North Korea providing a reason to invade the North.

Depends on who controls the White House. NK was singled out as a target for invasion to destabilize that area with the benefit of tying China down with unrelenting border and refugee woes.

It was the same paper that advocated the invasion of Iraq and Iran not to conquer but to destroy the supply chains of our "adversaries."

This paper was a roadmap to establishing a true, global, unchallenged American Empire, published by Cheney, Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz during the 90's.

Bush used Afghanistan to destabilize Iraq and listed the three countries as the Axis of Evil. There had been a real push to establish cause for invading Iran.

So long as Cheney's camp and the Bush family continue to support one another we are at risk for war with NK. And they can get a lot of support from Dominionist/quiverful types without ever throwing around religion.


Put the crack pipe down and back away.
 
2014-05-23 10:16:42 PM  
i153.photobucket.com
 
2014-05-23 10:51:08 PM  
North Korea's current situation is a lot like a juggler who has too many balls to juggle.  Every so often, someone throws them another ball, and they have to find some way to keep all the balls moving--mostly, by screaming and threatening the South Koreans, the US, or Japan.  We reply by giving them food.  As a result, they keep juggling them balls.

The thing is, you can only keep so many balls jiggling and juggling and going round and round before you start having them land on your head, like a giant sack of fleshy round balls, and all of your 'DEATH TO THE IMPERIALISTS AND THEIR BALLS' doesn't really help to deal with the whole ball-juggling-thing.  China is kind of watching the balls fly and keeps telling the North Koreans to keep everything in their pants, but at some point the balls just break free and fly everywhere, and what the Chinese fear the most is balls smacking chins, because that's never cool.  Take too many balls on the chin and you just end up getting the shaft, and China's worried about getting egg all over their faces on this.  Trust me, the Chinese don't want that.

Sooner or later, we're going to have to go balls-to-the-wall on this, China is just going to have to suck it up.
 
2014-05-23 11:03:17 PM  

toraque: North Korea's current situation is a lot like a juggler who has too many balls to juggle.  Every so often, someone throws them another ball, and they have to find some way to keep all the balls moving--mostly, by screaming and threatening the South Koreans, the US, or Japan.  We reply by giving them food.  As a result, they keep juggling them balls.

The thing is, you can only keep so many balls jiggling and juggling and going round and round before you start having them land on your head, like a giant sack of fleshy round balls, and all of your 'DEATH TO THE IMPERIALISTS AND THEIR BALLS' doesn't really help to deal with the whole ball-juggling-thing.  China is kind of watching the balls fly and keeps telling the North Koreans to keep everything in their pants, but at some point the balls just break free and fly everywhere, and what the Chinese fear the most is balls smacking chins, because that's never cool.  Take too many balls on the chin and you just end up getting the shaft, and China's worried about getting egg all over their faces on this.  Trust me, the Chinese don't want that.

Sooner or later, we're going to have to go balls-to-the-wall on this, China is just going to have to suck it up.


That poor, poor metaphor.  I think you beat it to death.
 
2014-05-23 11:17:28 PM  
boss.hawaiireporter.com
 
2014-05-23 11:38:59 PM  
It's so beautiful.
cdn.superbwallpapers.com
 
2014-05-23 11:52:33 PM  
DarkVader:
As much as I hate war, and as much as I wish we could avoid it, I'm afraid that the longer we manage to keep a pseudo-peace at this point the worse the eventual war is going to be.  The Norks already have nuclear weapons.  What happens when they get fusion weapons and ICBMs?  Are the generals who actually run the country going to understand the concept that they and their country will not survive a nuclear war when they've been indoctrinated since birth that Best Korea is militarily superior to every other country on the planet combined?

img.fark.net


A majority of their computers can barely run Snake in QBASIC, and maybe .5% of the citizens can run a computer.  They are not going to be detonating thermo-nuclear weapons anytime soon, and if they tried it would take them 20 failed attempts first, and if they got it right, they would get like 2% of the yield they should.  This is not a scenario i am worried about.
 
2014-05-24 01:37:34 AM  

toadist: DarkVader: We're eventually going to end up in another war with Best Korea.  I just don't see a way out of it at this point.  That mess of a government is just too self-perpetuating, and too good at brainwashing the population for this to end up going any other way.

As much as I hate war, and as much as I wish we could avoid it, I'm afraid that the longer we manage to keep a pseudo-peace at this point the worse the eventual war is going to be.  The Norks already have nuclear weapons.  What happens when they get fusion weapons and ICBMs?  Are the generals who actually run the country going to understand the concept that they and their country will not survive a nuclear war when they've been indoctrinated since birth that Best Korea is militarily superior to every other country on the planet combined?

Because if they're not as terrified as we and the Russians are of the results of using nukes, then maybe it's better to have it happen sooner than later, while they still aren't really capable of deploying those nukes.

You need to take your pills again.     No war with Korea any time soon.

Relax


what do you mean no war? We technically haven't finished the last one.
 
2014-05-24 01:55:17 AM  

Mister Buttons: A majority of their computers can barely run Snake in QBASIC, and maybe .5% of the citizens can run a computer. They are not going to be detonating thermo-nuclear weapons anytime soon, and if they tried it would take them 20 failed attempts first, and if they got it right, they would get like 2% of the yield they should. This is not a scenario i am worried about.


Though you do have to give them credit for the gaming trackball. That thing can probably run pong like there's no yesterday...
 
2014-05-24 02:13:38 AM  

Mister Buttons: DarkVader:
As much as I hate war, and as much as I wish we could avoid it, I'm afraid that the longer we manage to keep a pseudo-peace at this point the worse the eventual war is going to be.  The Norks already have nuclear weapons.  What happens when they get fusion weapons and ICBMs?  Are the generals who actually run the country going to understand the concept that they and their country will not survive a nuclear war when they've been indoctrinated since birth that Best Korea is militarily superior to every other country on the planet combined?



A majority of their computers can barely run Snake in QBASIC, and maybe .5% of the citizens can run a computer.  They are not going to be detonating thermo-nuclear weapons anytime soon, and if they tried it would take them 20 failed attempts first, and if they got it right, they would get like 2% of the yield they should.  This is not a scenario i am worried about.


You still get 100% (ok, not 100% but still bad) of the radioactive crap in the air from the fission and general vaproization of the Uranium....

It's not the fireball, that affects a small area - unless it's a Russian or Chinese nuke, its the death cloud that should worry you...
 
2014-05-24 02:24:04 AM  
If North Korea could invade the south, they would do so.  They can't.  It's gotten to the point that they couldn't even do so, if the US military pulled all of its military forces out from the region.  Hell, they couldn't probably even stop the ROK army from single handedly invading their country, without China backing them up.

Someone needs to tell the little turd that every time he acts up, a predator drone is going to fire hellfire missiles into his vintage car collection, or his private basketball court.  I mean the whole northern country is basically ran by the Korean equivalent of Justin Bieber.  Find what he loves most, and take it from him.
 
2014-05-24 03:04:40 AM  

Some Coke Drinking Guy: If North Korea could invade the south, they would do so.  They can't.  It's gotten to the point that they couldn't even do so, if the US military pulled all of its military forces out from the region.  Hell, they couldn't probably even stop the ROK army from single handedly invading their country, without China backing them up.

Someone needs to tell the little turd that every time he acts up, a predator drone is going to fire hellfire missiles into his vintage car collection, or his private basketball court.  I mean the whole northern country is basically ran by the Korean equivalent of Justin Bieber.  Find what he loves most, and take it from him.


Well yeah, except that part in bold.
 
2014-05-24 03:58:51 AM  

Mister Buttons: DarkVader:
As much as I hate war, and as much as I wish we could avoid it, I'm afraid that the longer we manage to keep a pseudo-peace at this point the worse the eventual war is going to be.  The Norks already have nuclear weapons.  What happens when they get fusion weapons and ICBMs?  Are the generals who actually run the country going to understand the concept that they and their country will not survive a nuclear war when they've been indoctrinated since birth that Best Korea is militarily superior to every other country on the planet combined?



A majority of their computers can barely run Snake in QBASIC, and maybe .5% of the citizens can run a computer.  They are not going to be detonating thermo-nuclear weapons anytime soon, and if they tried it would take them 20 failed attempts first, and if they got it right, they would get like 2% of the yield they should.  This is not a scenario i am worried about.


And the first Thermonuclear weapons where invented in the early '50s when the best supercomputer on the planet couldnt run Snake.
 
2014-05-24 04:39:24 AM  

Oldiron_79: Mister Buttons: DarkVader:
As much as I hate war, and as much as I wish we could avoid it, I'm afraid that the longer we manage to keep a pseudo-peace at this point the worse the eventual war is going to be.  The Norks already have nuclear weapons.  What happens when they get fusion weapons and ICBMs?  Are the generals who actually run the country going to understand the concept that they and their country will not survive a nuclear war when they've been indoctrinated since birth that Best Korea is militarily superior to every other country on the planet combined?

A majority of their computers can barely run Snake in QBASIC, and maybe .5% of the citizens can run a computer.  They are not going to be detonating thermo-nuclear weapons anytime soon, and if they tried it would take them 20 failed attempts first, and if they got it right, they would get like 2% of the yield they should.  This is not a scenario i am worried about.

And the first Thermonuclear weapons where invented in the early '50s when the best supercomputer on the planet couldnt run Snake.


http://nuclearweaponarchive.org/Nwfaq/Nfaq3.html

Also, in the '50s, you couldn't find shiat like this just laying around on the internet. If that doesn't interest you, you need to scroll down some.

semi-randomly selected quote:

Let us consider an example where the fuel being compressed is Li6D, and the total pressure increment is 10,000 megabars. The density of the fuel being compressed (designated rho_init) is 0.82, and if the initial shock pressure (p_0)is 50 megabars then the shock velocity is roughly:

 D_0 = [p_0(gamma + 1)/2*rho_init]^0.5 = [((5 x 10^7 bars)*(10^6 dynes/cm^2/bar)*(1 + 5/3))/(2 * 0.82)]^0.5 = 9.0 x 10^6 cm/sec

Since this an ionizing shock in Li6D initially at STP, the density after initial shock compression (rho_0) may be as high as 12 or so.

From the adiabatic law:

P_1 * V_1^gamma = P_final * V_final^gamma

we get the following expression for the adiabatic compression ratio:

 (P_final/P_0)^(1/gamma) = V_0/V_final = rho_final/rho_0

If all of the remaining pressure increase is adiabatic and gamma = 5/3, then

rho_final/rho_0 = 200^(3/5) = 24.0
giving a final density of around 288.

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TL;DR: Stuff about how much the shock from the primary will compress the lithium deuteride secondary, thus giving you a good idea what the neutron and gamma capture efficiency will be, which in turn tells you how to figure out if your primary is "hot" enough to light the secondary. Plus, you know, dozens of pages of semi-important details :P
 
2014-05-24 04:39:53 AM  
What Oldiron_79 said. Fusion weapons are a whole different animal. Remember, Castle-Brovo was only predicted to yeild 5 Megatons. But somebody didn't do their homework on Lithium-7 and got a yeild of 15 Megatons. If that computer is running Win95, even it will take you further than the ones they had in 1953. Unless they have to call tech support.If you already have fission nukes, and access to the right people and materials, it's not a huge jump in this day and age. The Norks are retarded, but I don't think they'd risk testing a megaton class nuke on their own real estate; They'd also be clobbered by Japan and SK if they did any aquatic or Atmospheric test offshore.
 
2014-05-24 06:35:51 AM  
I am a bit surprised they can get any of their stuff to fire.  Look at Google maps sometime, that place is like one gigantic backwards county in some state you never bothered to memorize the capitol of.

It's like everybody is pretending to be afraid of them because, well they just don't like chihuahuas.

imageshack.com.
 
2014-05-24 02:32:53 PM  
The US needs to quit sending aid to Best Korea.  No money, no food, nothing.  We already know they can't feed themselves, and they can't fight if they can't eat.
 
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