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(io9)   Perfect Allosaurus skeleton goes on display at the creationist museum and disproves all other geology and biology in peer reviewed science. Game over, evolutiontardos   (io9.com) divider line 65
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2014-05-23 01:24:23 PM  
The nature of the preserved skeleton, he contends, is proof of a rapid burial, which he interprets as confirmation of a global catastrophic flood a few thousand years ago.

Or it could be a localized flood or other calamity buried the dinosaur...

But no, Occam's razor points toward a global disaster. In your face, unbelievers!
 
2014-05-23 01:37:57 PM  

Snarfangel: The nature of the preserved skeleton, he contends, is proof of a rapid burial, which he interprets as confirmation of a global catastrophic flood a few thousand years ago.

Or it could be a localized flood or other calamity buried the dinosaur...

But no, Occam's razor points toward a global disaster. In your face, unbelievers!


You would think that a global flood would leave them lying around all over the place, and not just in one locale.  But these are not thinkers we're talking about.
 
2014-05-23 01:47:58 PM  
The fact that this place exists doesn't scare me. Anyone with enough money or backers can open up whatever they want. What scares me is its attracted enough visitors to stay open.

I would say I want to go see it just to see what crazy looks like on the inside, but I refuse to give any money whatsoever to crackpots like that.
 
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2014-05-23 01:53:33 PM  

scottydoesntknow: What scares me is its attracted enough visitors to stay open.


That was my thought as well.  It's like a huge echo chamber of mental retardation and/or willful ignorance...
 
2014-05-23 02:06:42 PM  
Ever since I was a child, I've been fascinated by evolutionary science.  Whether started by God or not, the amazing diversity of life that has evolved on this planet is truly mind blowing.  But then I read this article, and the museum's curator's claim that since the bones were found in anatomical position, it is proof of the global flood.  Color me convinced.  Can't believe I believed in that "science" hogwash for so many years.
 
2014-05-23 02:30:23 PM  

scottydoesntknow: I would say I want to go see it just to see what crazy looks like on the inside, but I refuse to give any money whatsoever to crackpots like that.


I read through a photo essay on the place... got to see all the mind-blowing exhibits and read their IQ-eliminating placards online, for free.  I had no idea just how derp it went until then.

Bottom line: they started with the conclusion (the Great Flood is responsible for just about everything everywhere) and built "evidence" to "support" that hypothesis.  None of which is even in the bible, much less the fossil record, of course!
 
2014-05-23 02:58:33 PM  
No, that can't be true because...
Uh...
You see, if that skeleton were...
Um...
Ah ha!  It's uh... no...

You know what?  I'm stumped.  You win this one, Creation Museum!
 
2014-05-23 03:15:34 PM  
No it isn't
 
2014-05-23 03:24:58 PM  
Shouldn't there be Allosaurs on the earth today if Noah put at least two of every animal on the ark?
 
2014-05-23 03:28:34 PM  
I've been to that place. The cognitive dissonance in that building is farking jaw dropping.
 
2014-05-23 03:32:10 PM  

johnsoninca: Shouldn't there be Allosaurs on the earth today if Noah put at least two of every animal on the ark?


I'm just wondering how he didn't end up with two very fat Allosaurs.
 
2014-05-23 03:37:06 PM  

wee: scottydoesntknow: What scares me is its attracted enough visitors to stay open.

That was my thought as well.  It's like a huge echo chamber of mental retardation and/or willful ignorance...


Maybe it hasn't attracted enough visitors to stay open on it's own, economically.

It's entirely possible that those who run it get financing from ideological birds of a feather, other than ticket sales, in order to keep it open.  Never
 
2014-05-23 03:37:41 PM  

Snarfangel: johnsoninca: Shouldn't there be Allosaurs on the earth today if Noah put at least two of every animal on the ark?

I'm just wondering how he didn't end up with two very fat Allosaurs.


He hired cowboys to lasso them.
 
2014-05-23 04:04:49 PM  

Three Crooked Squirrels: Ever since I was a child, I've been fascinated by evolutionary science.  Whether started by God or not, the amazing diversity of life that has evolved on this planet is truly mind blowing.  But then I read this article, and the museum's curator's claim that since the bones were found in anatomical position, it is proof of the global flood.  Color me convinced.  Can't believe I believed in that "science" hogwash for so many years.


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2014-05-23 04:21:41 PM  

namatad: Three Crooked Squirrels: Ever since I was a child, I've been fascinated by evolutionary science.  Whether started by God or not, the amazing diversity of life that has evolved on this planet is truly mind blowing.  But then I read this article, and the museum's curator's claim that since the bones were found in anatomical position, it is proof of the global flood.  Color me convinced.  Can't believe I believed in that "science" hogwash for so many years.

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Those look flooded. Your link has convinced me that my new beliefs are not just beliefs. They are biblical fact.
 
2014-05-23 05:47:26 PM  
Allosaurus doesn't live here anymore.
 
2014-05-23 06:19:30 PM  
"[T]he dinosaur named Ebenezer will find its permanent home here at the Creation Museum as a testament to the truths found in God's Word, and not be used to indoctrinate our kids with belief in evolution!"

While evolutionists use dinosaurs more than anything to promote their worldview
, especially to young students



These crazies should be locked away from society
 
2014-05-23 06:21:56 PM  

Danger Avoid Death: Allosaurus doesn't live here anymore.


Go ask Allosaurus. I think she'll know.
 
2014-05-23 06:24:19 PM  

Snarfangel: The nature of the preserved skeleton, he contends, is proof of a rapid burial, which he interprets as confirmation of a global catastrophic flood a few thousand years ago.

Or it could be a localized flood or other calamity buried the dinosaur...

But no, Occam's razor points toward a global disaster. In your face, unbelievers!


Obviously.  When I saw those mudslides in Washington on the news burying houses and roads, naturally I assumed that this was going on globally and my home was a magical ark floating over the chaos because God thought I was the most awesome person on earth and all my neighbors sucked.  I haven't left the house since.  I'm sure He'll tell me when the coast is clear.
 
2014-05-23 06:25:28 PM  

Snarfangel: The nature of the preserved skeleton, he contends, is proof of a rapid burial, which he interprets as confirmation of a global catastrophic flood a few thousand years ago.

Or it could be a localized flood or other calamity buried the dinosaur...

But no, Occam's razor points toward a global disaster. In your face, unbelievers!


I must suck at debate because I cant even think of a logical or even reasonable position to take to even support this...
 
2014-05-23 06:26:00 PM  

Jefferson Biatchmagnet: Danger Avoid Death: Allosaurus doesn't live here anymore.

Go ask Allosaurus. I think she'll know.


You can get anything you want at Allosaurus Restaurant.
 
2014-05-23 06:36:42 PM  
I've never felt sorry for a 68 million year old fossilized skeleton before, but, there you go.
 
2014-05-23 06:37:34 PM  

Snarfangel: But no, Occam's razor points toward a global disaster. In your face, unbelievers!


It's especially bizarre that they mention "rather than in a scattered assortment of bones as is often the case", which (by their logic) indicates that rapid burial was far from universal.

Even more bizarre is when Ham refers to skeletons in other museums, saying "and have seen their impressive dinosaur skeletons, but they were used for evolution" as though dinosaur fossils were merely propaganda for the evolutionist conspiracy.  Not surprising, just bizarre.
 
2014-05-23 06:40:15 PM  
What it looked like when we found it is all that matters. Carbon dating? What's that? A tool of the evolutionist! A pox on thee!
 
2014-05-23 06:42:43 PM  
These assholes think The Flintstones is a documentary.
 
2014-05-23 06:43:28 PM  

Danger Avoid Death: Jefferson Biatchmagnet: Danger Avoid Death: Allosaurus doesn't live here anymore.

Go ask Allosaurus. I think she'll know.

You can get anything you want at Allosaurus Restaurant.


I think this is getting more like Allosaurus Through The Looking Glass
 
2014-05-23 06:59:32 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Danger Avoid Death: Jefferson Biatchmagnet: Danger Avoid Death: Allosaurus doesn't live here anymore.

Go ask Allosaurus. I think she'll know.

You can get anything you want at Allosaurus Restaurant.

I think this is getting more like Allosaurus Through The Looking Glass


Someone should put Allosaurus in Chains.
 
2014-05-23 07:07:27 PM  

Danger Avoid Death: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Danger Avoid Death: Jefferson Biatchmagnet: Danger Avoid Death: Allosaurus doesn't live here anymore.

Go ask Allosaurus. I think she'll know.

You can get anything you want at Allosaurus Restaurant.

I think this is getting more like Allosaurus Through The Looking Glass

Someone should put Allosaurus in Chains.


Allosaurus, poor Yoricksaurus
 
2014-05-23 07:14:24 PM  
Bwahahhhahhahaha...*gasp*....bwahahhah ahhaa!

Creationists should be banned from even faking science, they can't even fake it right.
 
2014-05-23 07:18:21 PM  

johnsoninca: Shouldn't there be Allosaurs on the earth today if Noah put at least two of every animal on the ark?


Once they were on board, he tossed them out the window. Then he turned and looked at the wooly mammoth and said, "No ticket."
 
2014-05-23 07:20:40 PM  

Nix Nightbird: What it looked like when we found it is all that matters. Carbon dating? What's that? A tool of the evolutionist! A pox on thee!


I don't know. The stone tablet newspaper he was holding dated 3000 BC was pretty compelling.

Although I didn't know they had crayon technology back then.
 
2014-05-23 07:21:09 PM  
I wonder what articulated ichthyosaurus skeletons are proof of?
img.fark.net
 
2014-05-23 07:21:28 PM  

Danger Avoid Death: Jefferson Biatchmagnet: Danger Avoid Death: Allosaurus doesn't live here anymore.

Go ask Allosaurus. I think she'll know.

You can get anything you want at Allosaurus Restaurant.


(Excepting Allosaurus)
 
2014-05-23 07:22:12 PM  
Ken Ham, president of the Creation Museum, had this to say:

"Derpa dee herpa derp herpa lurpa derp herp. Flurpa derpa herp, scurpa derpa derp."
 
2014-05-23 07:25:52 PM  

johnsoninca: Shouldn't there be Allosaurs on the earth today if Noah put at least two of every animal on the ark?


Well, Noah was a drinker and the plans for the ark got misinterpreted while attempting scale.  Some had to be left behind.  The raptors of course stayed so that Jesus could ride them later for the benefit of creationist coloring books in the distant future.  However the raptors died out shortly after Jesus because they simply gave up living after they had witnessed the glory of the lord and realized they would no more be saddled by the son of God.
 
2014-05-23 07:32:39 PM  

Colour_out_of_Space: I wonder what articulated ichthyosaurus skeletons are proof of?
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Jesus loves you.
 
2014-05-23 07:34:16 PM  
uh-th... uh-th...uh-th... That's Allosaurus, folks!
 
2014-05-23 07:46:57 PM  
Well I'm convinced...convinced that I want to become a fake scientist and make some dough off these fools.
 
2014-05-23 07:55:36 PM  
i.kinja-img.com
"You're right, no human being would stack books like this..."
 
2014-05-23 08:18:22 PM  

scottydoesntknow: The fact that this place exists doesn't scare me. Anyone with enough money or backers can open up whatever they want. What scares me is its attracted enough visitors to stay open.

I would say I want to go see it just to see what crazy looks like on the inside, but I refuse to give any money whatsoever to crackpots like that.


There are videos for the vicarious experience,
 
2014-05-23 08:22:17 PM  
I interpreted this as a creationist's origin story, as in, how creationists become what they are:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxYA6duF-9E
 
2014-05-23 08:48:21 PM  

buckler: scottydoesntknow: The fact that this place exists doesn't scare me. Anyone with enough money or backers can open up whatever they want. What scares me is its attracted enough visitors to stay open.

I would say I want to go see it just to see what crazy looks like on the inside, but I refuse to give any money whatsoever to crackpots like that.

There are videos for the vicarious experience,


I have little enough faith in humanity as it is. I'm afraid if I watch that video I'll lose what's left.
 
2014-05-23 09:06:54 PM  
Is there room here for someone who falls in the middle of this issue?

I believe in a creator but I am not a creationist. Those guys can't seem to form a logical argument to save their lives. And the Young Earth concept is ridiculous as well as un-Biblical.

I am also very scientifically minded. I accept the concept of natural selection but not all aspects of evolution. Neither do I accept all aspects of string theory. This doesn't make me unscientific; there are plenty of theoretical physicists that don't accept string theory as well.

There is broad middle ground between the god-is-the-answer-to-every-question crowd and the  god-is-never-the-answer-to-anything crowd that allows for science and belief in a creator.
 
2014-05-23 09:23:22 PM  

ohmikey: Is there room here for someone who falls in the middle of this issue?


Actually, trying to be "in the middle" is probably worse that going full retard.  That implies that you are capable of rational thought and you have declined to utilize it.

I am also very scientifically minded. I accept the concept of natural selection but not all aspects of evolution.

Such as?
 
2014-05-23 09:37:21 PM  

ohmikey: I accept the concept of natural selection but not all aspects of evolution


What aspects of evolution do you not accept?
 
2014-05-23 11:25:23 PM  

scottydoesntknow: The fact that this place exists doesn't scare me. Anyone with enough money or backers can open up whatever they want. What scares me is its attracted enough visitors to stay open.


It's a "world's largest ball of yarn" type of 'museum', where you don't actually have to verify anything, hire any kind of experts, or even really pay to maintain displays.  They're literally less expensive to maintain than a one-bedroom house, at that level of bored-road-trip-interruption tourist trap you're a big-budget operation if you even bother to have air conditioning.

Basically I think you're hearing 'museum' and thinking of something on the level of an actual academic museum, which has actual vetted displays and is part of a larger, somewhat-expensive community of experts of various kinds that all have to be paid for their time/participation.  That's not what it is.  This is the equivalent of, say, the 'four corners' 'museum' where there's an old house full of random bullshiat some old dude has collected over the course of his life that he's realized he can charge people a buck to see because anyone there has been driving through empty fields for 400 miles and even the cows are starting to look interesting.

// To put it another way, think 'americana exhibit' rather than 'actual museum' and it makes plenty of sense.  It's unlikely that the visitors even actually but it, any more than the drivers visiting 'world's largest ball of string #372' actually buy that it's the largest.
 
2014-05-23 11:36:34 PM  
What will really bake your noodle is that a lot of the placards in the CM actually depict speciation and the filling of vacant niches after the Flood using natural variance and selection as the driving dynamic. It's absolutely flabbergasting.
 
2014-05-23 11:37:52 PM  

Jim_Callahan: scottydoesntknow: The fact that this place exists doesn't scare me. Anyone with enough money or backers can open up whatever they want. What scares me is its attracted enough visitors to stay open.

It's a "world's largest ball of yarn" type of 'museum', where you don't actually have to verify anything, hire any kind of experts, or even really pay to maintain displays.  They're literally less expensive to maintain than a one-bedroom house, at that level of bored-road-trip-interruption tourist trap you're a big-budget operation if you even bother to have air conditioning.

Basically I think you're hearing 'museum' and thinking of something on the level of an actual academic museum, which has actual vetted displays and is part of a larger, somewhat-expensive community of experts of various kinds that all have to be paid for their time/participation.  That's not what it is.  This is the equivalent of, say, the 'four corners' 'museum' where there's an old house full of random bullshiat some old dude has collected over the course of his life that he's realized he can charge people a buck to see because anyone there has been driving through empty fields for 400 miles and even the cows are starting to look interesting.

// To put it another way, think 'americana exhibit' rather than 'actual museum' and it makes plenty of sense.  It's unlikely that the visitors even actually but it, any more than the drivers visiting 'world's largest ball of string #372' actually buy that it's the largest.


Darwin is getting a kick out of your...

/Darwin MN that is
 
2014-05-23 11:43:31 PM  

real_headhoncho: [i.kinja-img.com image 636x311]
"You're right, no human being would stack books like this..."


This is what immediately came to mind for me too.
 
2014-05-24 01:23:34 AM  

ohmikey: Is there room here for someone who falls in the middle of this issue?

I believe in a creator but I am not a creationist. Those guys can't seem to form a logical argument to save their lives. And the Young Earth concept is ridiculous as well as un-Biblical.

I am also very scientifically minded. I accept the concept of natural selection but not all aspects of evolution. Neither do I accept all aspects of string theory. This doesn't make me unscientific; there are plenty of theoretical physicists that don't accept string theory as well.

There is broad middle ground between the god-is-the-answer-to-every-question crowd and the  god-is-never-the-answer-to-anything crowd that allows for science and belief in a creator.


Cat likes you.

Mind you, cat does not believe in the One God, but cat likes diversity of belief.
 
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