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2014-05-23 12:29:47 AM
37.media.tumblr.com

rt.com

www.motherjones.com
 
2014-05-23 03:07:16 AM
Well that's good or bad or something.
 
2014-05-23 07:40:27 AM
How many more Russian rocket engines do we have left?  Lockheed and Boeing are going to miss them when they're gone.
 
2014-05-23 08:00:25 AM
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2014-05-23 08:18:31 AM
The new satellite, known as the Eye in the Sky, was developed by Dr. Parsons.
 
2014-05-23 08:19:10 AM
As someone who ███████ in ███████████ I'm really getting a kick out of these responses

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// ██████ ████ tomorrow
/// stay away from  ██████
 
2014-05-23 08:19:19 AM
Subby, you mistakenly used Black highlighter on black text.

/Borrowed.
 
2014-05-23 08:19:42 AM
The better to spy you with my dear.
 
2014-05-23 08:21:25 AM

Marcus Aurelius: How many more Russian rocket engines do we have left?  Lockheed and Boeing are going to miss them when they're gone.


That and they like to go boom every now and then...

http://www.floridatoday.com/story/tech/science/space/2014/05/22/reli an ce-on-russian-rocket-engine-in-atlas-v-makes-some-nervous/9457153/
 
2014-05-23 08:27:42 AM
Hail Hydra?
 
2014-05-23 08:28:12 AM

Marcus Aurelius: How many more Russian rocket engines do we have left?  Lockheed and Boeing are going to miss them when they're gone.


Rumor has it they only have 16 RD-130's left in the united states.

I do so enjoy the irony of launching american spy satellites with Soviet moon rocket engines.
 
2014-05-23 08:32:05 AM
Wasn't it already in space??

www.dailygalaxy.com
 
2014-05-23 08:34:23 AM

bo_loo: Marcus Aurelius: How many more Russian rocket engines do we have left?  Lockheed and Boeing are going to miss them when they're gone.

That and they like to go boom every now and then...

http://www.floridatoday.com/story/tech/science/space/2014/05/22/reli an ce-on-russian-rocket-engine-in-atlas-v-makes-some-nervous/9457153/


The Delta rocket that is the "alternative" is even worse.
 
2014-05-23 08:53:55 AM
Does it contain cheesy movies and a janitor?
 
2014-05-23 08:55:52 AM

Marcus Aurelius: bo_loo: Marcus Aurelius: How many more Russian rocket engines do we have left?  Lockheed and Boeing are going to miss them when they're gone.

That and they like to go boom every now and then...

http://www.floridatoday.com/story/tech/science/space/2014/05/22/reli an ce-on-russian-rocket-engine-in-atlas-v-makes-some-nervous/9457153/

The Delta rocket that is the "alternative" is even worse.


Ya, we need to work on fast tracking some of the new rocket techs... some of them have been in the certification pipeline for 2 years already, but this gap in ability to deliver payloads efficiently (without depending on the russkis) is a travesty that ought to highlight just how corrupt congress and DoD contracting is.
 
2014-05-23 09:22:33 AM

mayIFark: Subby, you mistakenly used Black highlighter on black text.

/Borrowed.


I think it was orange and just run through a photocopier.
 
2014-05-23 09:25:55 AM

Sybarite: The new satellite, known as the Eye in the Sky, was developed by Dr. Parsons.


What you did there I see it.
 
2014-05-23 09:33:32 AM

Marcus Aurelius: How many more Russian rocket engines do we have left?  Lockheed and Boeing are going to miss them when they're gone.




They've previously said "a two year supply"... Which isn't a terribly accurate way to describe inventory like this.
I can only assume its enough to finish out the current launch contract of thirty odd ships. Not counting accidents or other issues of course.

I'm wondering if they'll get that far without Russian technical assistance.
Of course, Russia seems to be having its own problems not going boom.

/if we know their engined better than they do, I'm having a hard time understanding why we can't make more.
/it mainly seems to be about the license for manufacturing, which would be an ironic thing to respect in regards to Russia.
 
2014-05-23 09:39:58 AM

bo_loo: Marcus Aurelius: How many more Russian rocket engines do we have left?  Lockheed and Boeing are going to miss them when they're gone.

That and they like to go boom every now and then...

http://www.floridatoday.com/story/tech/science/space/2014/05/22/reli an ce-on-russian-rocket-engine-in-atlas-v-makes-some-nervous/9457153/


I'd say they go boom every time they launch. The Russian RD-180 has been extremely reliable (having had only one partial failure out of 46 launches: failure to reach intended orbit). You don't need to infer something that isn't true to make your point (unless you were referring to the completely different Proton-M third stage that failed last week: apples, meet oranges).

ULA only has 15 engines stockpiled which they are referring to as a "two year supply". Considering that they launched 8 of them last year, their supply won't quite make it 2 years. Considering that they sold 27 Atlas Vs to the military and only have 15 engines left, that's a bigger math problem. Considering that both the CST-100 & Dream Chaser crewed spacecraft had expected to launch on Atlas Vs...let's just say that it's a good time to be SpaceX.

No, that Russian engine doesn't blow up, but, yes, the Atlas V is screwed unless they can build that engine domestically...soon.
 
2014-05-23 10:04:35 AM
Just because you see blocked out type on UFO documents doesn't mean it's blocked out for an extraterrestrial reason.

There could be a terrestrial reason for that.
 
2014-05-23 10:06:34 AM
Spying on us for 13 years now.

www.standbyformindcontrol.com
 
2014-05-23 10:06:58 AM

SewerSquirrels: The Russian RD-180 has been extremely reliable (having had only one partial failure out of 46 launches: failure to reach intended orbit).


Well, I borked that up. The Atlas V had a partial failure (Centaur upper stage). The RD-180 has a perfect track record...must be using steroids.
 
2014-05-23 10:12:01 AM

fluffy2097: Marcus Aurelius: How many more Russian rocket engines do we have left?  Lockheed and Boeing are going to miss them when they're gone.

Rumor has it they only have 16 RD-130's left in the united states.

I do so enjoy the irony of launching american spy satellites with Soviet moon rocket engines.


sorta like buying titanium from the Soviet Union back in the 1960's for use in the SR-71 blackbird, eh?
 
2014-05-23 10:17:33 AM

SewerSquirrels: bo_loo: Marcus Aurelius: How many more Russian rocket engines do we have left?  Lockheed and Boeing are going to miss them when they're gone.

That and they like to go boom every now and then...

http://www.floridatoday.com/story/tech/science/space/2014/05/22/reli an ce-on-russian-rocket-engine-in-atlas-v-makes-some-nervous/9457153/

I'd say they go boom every time they launch. The Russian RD-180 has been extremely reliable (having had only one partial failure out of 46 launches: failure to reach intended orbit). You don't need to infer something that isn't true to make your point (unless you were referring to the completely different Proton-M third stage that failed last week: apples, meet oranges).

ULA only has 15 engines stockpiled which they are referring to as a "two year supply". Considering that they launched 8 of them last year, their supply won't quite make it 2 years. Considering that they sold 27 Atlas Vs to the military and only have 15 engines left, that's a bigger math problem. Considering that both the CST-100 & Dream Chaser crewed spacecraft had expected to launch on Atlas Vs...let's just say that it's a good time to be SpaceX.

No, that Russian engine doesn't blow up, but, yes, the Atlas V is screwed unless they can build that engine domestically...soon.


Since Russia is giving us the ol' fark you and middle finger, why don't we give a team a year and several million dollars to completely reverse engineer the rocket? They're probably not using exotic components. Hell, Congress could even pass a law giving any American company the right to clone the design and not have to face legal challenges.
 
2014-05-23 10:21:52 AM

MBrady: fluffy2097: Marcus Aurelius: How many more Russian rocket engines do we have left?  Lockheed and Boeing are going to miss them when they're gone.

Rumor has it they only have 16 RD-130's left in the united states.

I do so enjoy the irony of launching american spy satellites with Soviet moon rocket engines.

sorta like buying titanium from the Soviet Union back in the 1960's for use in the SR-71 blackbird, eh?


They say a businessman will sell you the rope you need to enable you to hang him...
 
2014-05-23 10:22:31 AM
Sure, Brain. But why would they launch Bernadette Peters into space?
 
2014-05-23 10:25:19 AM
I'm sure █████████ is for watching American citizens who are doing nothing wrong and/or protecting corporate interests, as opposed to watching dangerous enemy states and religious extremist groups...
 
2014-05-23 10:32:40 AM

zipdog: SewerSquirrels: bo_loo: Marcus Aurelius: How many more Russian rocket engines do we have left?  Lockheed and Boeing are going to miss them when they're gone.

That and they like to go boom every now and then...

http://www.floridatoday.com/story/tech/science/space/2014/05/22/reli an ce-on-russian-rocket-engine-in-atlas-v-makes-some-nervous/9457153/

I'd say they go boom every time they launch. The Russian RD-180 has been extremely reliable (having had only one partial failure out of 46 launches: failure to reach intended orbit). You don't need to infer something that isn't true to make your point (unless you were referring to the completely different Proton-M third stage that failed last week: apples, meet oranges).

ULA only has 15 engines stockpiled which they are referring to as a "two year supply". Considering that they launched 8 of them last year, their supply won't quite make it 2 years. Considering that they sold 27 Atlas Vs to the military and only have 15 engines left, that's a bigger math problem. Considering that both the CST-100 & Dream Chaser crewed spacecraft had expected to launch on Atlas Vs...let's just say that it's a good time to be SpaceX.

No, that Russian engine doesn't blow up, but, yes, the Atlas V is screwed unless they can build that engine domestically...soon.

Since Russia is giving us the ol' fark you and middle finger, why don't we give a team a year and several million dollars to completely reverse engineer the rocket? They're probably not using exotic components. Hell, Congress could even pass a law giving any American company the right to clone the design and not have to face legal challenges.


We actually already have the blueprints and a license to produce them domestically.  We just haven't bothered to do so, since it is so much more fun for ULA to get overpaid hundreds of millions of dollars to launch Russian stuff.
 
2014-05-23 10:37:39 AM

Big Floppy Donkey Dick Nixon: As someone who ███████ in ███████████ I'm really getting a kick out of these responses

/ █████
// ██████ ████ tomorrow
/// stay away from  ██████


Dude! Spoilers!

// wait, what?
//.
//.
//...
////stay away from what?!
 
2014-05-23 10:58:52 AM

Richard C Stanford: Does it contain cheesy movies and a janitor?


How will he eat and breathe? And maintain his sanity?
 
2014-05-23 11:12:49 AM
Not  entirely a propos, but I'm reminded of this model of censorship:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ja1yHoU-o7s
 
2014-05-23 11:19:18 AM
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2014-05-23 11:26:02 AM
Remember when you were in high school and you first discovered unicode characters?   Yeah.
 
2014-05-23 11:30:59 AM

Hollie Maea: zipdog: SewerSquirrels: bo_loo: Marcus Aurelius: How many more Russian rocket engines do we have left?  Lockheed and Boeing are going to miss them when they're gone.

That and they like to go boom every now and then...

http://www.floridatoday.com/story/tech/science/space/2014/05/22/reli an ce-on-russian-rocket-engine-in-atlas-v-makes-some-nervous/9457153/

I'd say they go boom every time they launch. The Russian RD-180 has been extremely reliable (having had only one partial failure out of 46 launches: failure to reach intended orbit). You don't need to infer something that isn't true to make your point (unless you were referring to the completely different Proton-M third stage that failed last week: apples, meet oranges).

ULA only has 15 engines stockpiled which they are referring to as a "two year supply". Considering that they launched 8 of them last year, their supply won't quite make it 2 years. Considering that they sold 27 Atlas Vs to the military and only have 15 engines left, that's a bigger math problem. Considering that both the CST-100 & Dream Chaser crewed spacecraft had expected to launch on Atlas Vs...let's just say that it's a good time to be SpaceX.

No, that Russian engine doesn't blow up, but, yes, the Atlas V is screwed unless they can build that engine domestically...soon.

Since Russia is giving us the ol' fark you and middle finger, why don't we give a team a year and several million dollars to completely reverse engineer the rocket? They're probably not using exotic components. Hell, Congress could even pass a law giving any American company the right to clone the design and not have to face legal challenges.

We actually already have the blueprints and a license to produce them domestically.  We just haven't bothered to do so, since it is so much more fun for ULA to get overpaid hundreds of millions of dollars to launch Russian stuff.


We call that the American way.
 
2014-05-23 11:31:26 AM
Carrot Top, right? They sent Carrot Top into space, right?
 
2014-05-23 11:32:52 AM

MBrady: fluffy2097: Marcus Aurelius: How many more Russian rocket engines do we have left?  Lockheed and Boeing are going to miss them when they're gone.

Rumor has it they only have 16 RD-130's left in the united states.

I do so enjoy the irony of launching american spy satellites with Soviet moon rocket engines.

sorta like buying titanium from the Soviet Union back in the 1960's for use in the SR-71 blackbird, eh?


Except that the SR-71 never overflew Soviet or PRC territory, at least as far as we know.

By the time the SR-71 program was in full swing in the late 1960's, satellite reconnaissance made risky flights over Soviet territory unnecessary.  The SR-71 *COULD* be shot down, given the right circumstances, and we weren't going to risk another incident like the 1960 U-2 shootdown.

What the SR-71 excelled at was getting photos of hotspots around the World on short notice without having to re-task a satellite, and the capability of getting those photos back quickly at a time when most satellite recon was done with film-return satellites, meaning a wait of days or even weeks before you could get the pics back.
 
2014-05-23 11:40:23 AM

zipdog: Since Russia is giving us the ol' fark you and middle finger, why don't we give a team a year and several million dollars to completely reverse engineer the rocket? They're probably not using exotic components. Hell, Congress could even pass a law giving any American company the right to clone the design and not have to face legal challenges.


Or how about we don't give ULA a friggin penny to do what they should have done (and promised to do) years ago. Reverse engineering isn't required; ULA has the blueprints, they just aren't using them. Old space must change or die.
 
2014-05-23 11:49:50 AM

ikanreed: Remember when you were in high school and you first discovered unicode characters?   Yeah.


No, because when the first Unicode standard was published, I had graduated from high school, spent a 4 year stint in the US Army, and been out for at least 2 years.  At least.
 
2014-05-23 11:59:13 AM
www.spaceflightnow.com
 
2014-05-23 12:09:53 PM

dittybopper: ikanreed: Remember when you were in high school and you first discovered unicode characters?   Yeah.

No, because when the first Unicode standard was published, I had graduated from high school, spent a 4 year stint in the US Army, and been out for at least 2 years.  At least.


How's the apple sauce at the home?
 
2014-05-23 12:14:13 PM

fluffy2097: I do so enjoy the irony of launching american spy satellites with Soviet moon rocket engines.


Well, kinda, but not really. The RD-180 uses the same fuel cycle as the Soviet moon rocket's NK-33 engine, but they are different engines.

For one thing, the RD-180 is double barrel:
www.aviationnews.eu
While the moon shot NK-33 is single shot:
www.russianspaceweb.com
If you want to see original Soviet moon rocket hardware in action, watch the next Orbital Science's Antares launch.
 
2014-05-23 12:27:38 PM

SewerSquirrels: fluffy2097: I do so enjoy the irony of launching american spy satellites with Soviet moon rocket engines.

Well, kinda, but not really. The RD-180 uses the same fuel cycle as the Soviet moon rocket's NK-33 engine, but they are different engines.

For one thing, the RD-180 is double barrel:
[www.aviationnews.eu image 269x312]
While the moon shot NK-33 is single shot:
[www.russianspaceweb.com image 240x417]
If you want to see original Soviet moon rocket hardware in action, watch the next Orbital Science's Antares launch.


Or not, considering that their NK-33 just ate it during a test.
 
2014-05-23 12:49:18 PM

Hollie Maea: Or not, considering that their NK-33 just ate it during a test.


Ruh Roh! That's what I get for not checking NSF headlines before I post in a rocket thread.
 
2014-05-23 01:09:21 PM

ikanreed: dittybopper: ikanreed: Remember when you were in high school and you first discovered unicode characters?   Yeah.

No, because when the first Unicode standard was published, I had graduated from high school, spent a 4 year stint in the US Army, and been out for at least 2 years.  At least.

How's the apple sauce at the home?


We spike then Ensure with vodka, so it doesn't matter if the applesauce sucks.

Best thing about living here?  The teeth come out at night...
 
2014-05-23 01:18:00 PM
Does this have to with that bizarre security meeting the other day?
 
2014-05-23 01:20:59 PM
the NSA's ears (and nose) are growing larger every year.   at taxpayer expense, of course.  i thought those folks weren't too keen on Socialism?

all you have to do is "classify" it and suddenly, you can do as you please with No Strings Attached.
 
2014-05-23 01:23:38 PM
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SO THERE!!!
 
2014-05-23 01:25:00 PM
Just remember everyone, the Owners are only spying on you to keep you Free.
 
2014-05-23 01:25:59 PM
My God................its full of Stars!!!!
 
2014-05-23 01:28:35 PM

Linux_Yes: My God................its full of Stars!!!!


www.youtube.com/watch?v=uA4iPFsEW0I   (SFW unless you don't have a space helmet)
 
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