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(CNN)   Tennessee bringing ole Sparky out of retirement   (cnn.com ) divider line 337
    More: Strange, Tennessee Governor, electric chair, sodium thiopental, lethal injection  
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2014-05-23 12:36:53 AM  
Watch as SCOTUS bans the death penalty altogether again because states like TN don't have any ability to think over the long term.

/not that they shouldn't ban the death penalty altogether, but you know.
 
2014-05-23 12:44:03 AM  
If I lived in Tennessee, I'd make sure I turned out the lights so they had a few extra volts.
 
2014-05-23 12:47:09 AM  
Well she looks exactly like I was expecting her to.
 
2014-05-23 12:50:00 AM  
Oh good...I was worried people might have to go un-executed for awhile!  WHEW!!
 
2014-05-23 12:56:15 AM  
That's horrible, and I've never understood why the electric chair is not considered cruel and unusual.

Bring back the guillotine!
 
2014-05-23 01:06:47 AM  
Well, I am obviously posting in the wrong thread...
 
2014-05-23 01:24:51 AM  

BadReligion: Well, I am obviously posting in the wrong thread...


There really is no such thing as a posting in the wrong thread on fark.
 
2014-05-23 01:26:23 AM  
well this is going to be a fun thread!

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2014-05-23 02:33:29 AM  
I'm for keeping the death penalty around, with a much higher threshold. People like McVeigh, John Allen Muhammad, and Gacy we can do without. But the electric chair is cruel and inhumane. I'd rather we keep three people like that alive than strap them into an electric chair.
 
2014-05-23 02:55:31 AM  
I don't support this at all since all that electricity isn't good for the environment.  Can't they at least make it green using solar or wind power?
 
2014-05-23 03:09:38 AM  

DON.MAC: I don't support this at all since all that electricity isn't good for the environment.  Can't they at least make it green using solar or wind power?


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"Dude we've been here all morning. Could you at least re-moisten my head sponge?"

 
2014-05-23 03:38:05 AM  
Imagine if SCOTUS decides that ole sparky isnt cruel and unusual

Can we go back to making lethal injection drugs more available again?
 
2014-05-23 04:48:22 AM  
Cruel and unusual punishment was the gas chamber. Once sealed, they triggered a release that dropped a handful of Cyanide Tablets into a bucket of acid under the chair the convict was strapped into.

Cyanide doesn't kill all that quickly or cleanly. Basically, it paralyzes your breathing muscles and you get to slowly suffocate, fully aware of the process. Prisoners were encouraged to take deep breaths and suck the gas in to make it act faster and possibly stop the heart before they suffocated.

Nasty way to go.

I would expect that the electric chair isn't exactly pleasant either once that voltage snaps on. There will be a period of time before the brain burns out where the prisoner is aware, can feel his muscles lock up and that surge of power pass through his body. Maybe seconds, but long enough to feel it.

If you want to kill them fast without drugs -- set up a remote controlled gun box. (One was designed ages ago and briefly used.) With today's technology, you can laser aim the high caliber guns at the head and heart. Have 5 trigger buttons, but only one will actually be live. Once pressed, X number of seconds will pass and 4 guns will fire. Two shots to the heart. Two shots to the brain.

Painless.

Russians use a slightly different technique. The prisoner is never told when his execution is to happen, but he is taken to a cell with a drain in the floor and a chair bolted near the center. At any time, a soldier can put a rifle through one of the many gun slots and put a bullet through his head.

It can be hours after sentencing or days. Afterwards, the body is removed and the cell hosed down.

Probably basically painless, but the wait is hell. They did that to Chickatillo (SP) the guy who killed and cannibalized kids. He also hacked them up and sold some of their meat to strangers as fresh pork.
 
2014-05-23 05:27:38 AM  
I see Tennessee has some surplus legal budget to burn through...
 
2014-05-23 05:47:23 AM  
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/for those who remember this piece of high art

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(might as well get the Ride The Lightning one out of the way)
 
2014-05-23 05:48:03 AM  
I propose a shaped charge explosive execution chair. The victim will be straped in, and a high explosive will be behind head. He will be asked a series of 16 questions of increasing difficulty, and if he gets all 16 correct he goes free.
 
2014-05-23 05:48:23 AM  
Good.
Now stop waiting 20 years to execute them.
Oh, and make the public.
 
2014-05-23 05:49:20 AM  

jehovahs witness protection: Good.
Now stop waiting 20 years to execute them.
Oh, and make them public.


FTFM
 
2014-05-23 05:51:09 AM  
Hanging rope hardly ever wears out.
 
2014-05-23 05:52:29 AM  

DON.MAC: I don't support this at all since all that electricity isn't good for the environment.  Can't they at least make it green using solar or wind power?


Well, we can always bring back the Bronze Bull.
 
2014-05-23 05:53:14 AM  

subsetzero: Hanging rope hardly ever wears out.


... but if the hangman screws up the body weight calculations, then the death will be a slow strangulation which - you guessed it - is a violation of the 8th Amendment.

Nitrogen asphyxiation, on the other hand...  One tank, one mask, one chair with straps.  Strap the inmate to the chair, strap the mask on his face and turn the nozzle.  He peacefully goes to sleep and never comes back.
 
2014-05-23 05:54:52 AM  

wildcardjack: I propose a shaped charge explosive execution chair. The victim will be straped in, and a high explosive will be behind head. He will be asked a series of 16 questions of increasing difficulty, and if he gets all 16 correct he goes free.


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"Answer me these riddles 16, and the other side ye shall see!"
 
2014-05-23 05:56:46 AM  
themindiswatching:
/not that they shouldn't ban the death penalty altogether, but you know.

It's not that some people don't deserve to be put down, it's the incompetence & corruption in the US criminal justice system that creeps me out.  ( and some States are more "just' than others, IMHO. I'd rather deal with my local judges & police than the likes of "Sheriff Joe" in Arizona...)
 
2014-05-23 05:57:03 AM  
Maybe we should just start banishing people instead of trying to come up with a humane means of state-sanctioned murder.

Facial tattoo indicating their crime, and put them on a one-way flight to a randomly chosen spot on the globe with no permission to ever return.
 
2014-05-23 06:07:40 AM  
BZZZZZZ!!!

'Ow!  My eyes both just popped out of my head!'
 
2014-05-23 06:07:48 AM  
It's a shame we don't have the means of death of personality.
 
2014-05-23 06:08:24 AM  

cman: Imagine if SCOTUS decides that ole sparky isnt cruel and unusual

Can we go back to making lethal injection drugs more available again?


I think the reason that they are so hard for us to get is because the drug companies don't want to sell them if they are going to be used for lethal injection. I honestly don't know why a US facility can't start producing them.
 
2014-05-23 06:09:02 AM  
How about turning Manhattan into one giant lifers' prison?

/Glider landings might be a bit tricky these days.
 
2014-05-23 06:10:58 AM  

Therion: That's horrible, and I've never understood why the electric chair is not considered cruel and unusual.

Bring back the guillotine!


We save the guillotines for when we only have cake left to eat. I'd rather see them just pump a guy on death row with enough morphine to kill an elephant.
 
2014-05-23 06:11:37 AM  
Anyone know why guillotines went out of style? I mean, talk about instant and painless. Is it the mess?

Relevant to the discussion.
 
2014-05-23 06:12:45 AM  
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/The Onion may prove prophetic yet again
 
2014-05-23 06:14:18 AM  

violentsalvation: I'm for keeping the death penalty around, with a much higher threshold. People like McVeigh, John Allen Muhammad, and Gacy we can do without. But the electric chair is cruel and inhumane. I'd rather we keep three people like that alive than strap them into an electric chair.


Imo, the issue is containability. Even if a person is bad, really bad, we can put them in prison or a supermax prison (for guys like you mentioned). That said, if a person's violent ways can't be mitigated, and they kill people in prison, rape people in prison, or escape prison and kill/rape... then they should be put down. Our moral obligation is to not kill them unless it is defensive... the only way I could see it being defensive is for those who we tried, but failed to keep separated from where they could do harm.

Unlike the court though, I'm ok with the death penalty for non-murder crimes... if you escape prison and attempt to murder someone, you're still dangerous, and we need to put you down... the danger you pose is not based on whether or not you were successful in your attempt to murder someone.
 
2014-05-23 06:15:25 AM  

UNC_Samurai: It's a shame we don't have the means of death of personality.


Interesting idea. Let me think about it...

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2014-05-23 06:17:07 AM  

UNC_Samurai: It's a shame we don't have the means of death of personality.


people.virginia.edu

Unavailable for comment.
 
2014-05-23 06:20:39 AM  

Lackofname: Anyone know why guillotines went out of style? I mean, talk about instant and painless. Is it the mess?

Relevant to the discussion.


Not the mess so much as they weren't sure it was actually a humane way of killing people. Even after decapitation the brain continues to function for several minutes and observational tests showed decapitated heads still reacting to external stimulus such as calling the beheaded persons name causing the eyes to open and look at the person that called their name. Considering I have not extensively studied the guillotine and its disuse, my knowledge is sketchy at best.
 
2014-05-23 06:20:41 AM  

jehovahs witness protection: jehovahs witness protection: Good.
Now stop waiting 20 years to execute them.
Oh, and make them public.

FTFM


so you like watching snuff films?
 
2014-05-23 06:22:49 AM  

Bugerz: Lackofname: Anyone know why guillotines went out of style? I mean, talk about instant and painless. Is it the mess?

Relevant to the discussion.

Not the mess so much as they weren't sure it was actually a humane way of killing people. Even after decapitation the brain continues to function for several minutes and observational tests showed decapitated heads still reacting to external stimulus such as calling the beheaded persons name causing the eyes to open and look at the person that called their name. Considering I have not extensively studied the guillotine and its disuse, my knowledge is sketchy at best.


seems to me you could knock someone out with an injection of an anesthetic and then decapitate them.
 
2014-05-23 06:24:07 AM  

Hobodeluxe: jehovahs witness protection: jehovahs witness protection: Good.
Now stop waiting 20 years to execute them.
Oh, and make them public.

FTFM

so you like watching snuff films?


And executing innocent people, too.
 
2014-05-23 06:26:00 AM  

cman: Imagine if SCOTUS decides that ole sparky isnt cruel and unusual

Can we go back to making lethal injection drugs more available again?



Availability isn't the problem on the buyer's end. The company that made the bulk of the drugs used in executions, based in Europe, decided they don't want to make or sell them anymore. That's the reason for this new law, because now, you have every attorney for a death row inmate filing an appeal based on the fact that no state will reveal where they are getting this new batch. And after what happened in Oklahoma, it's a legit reason.

As for cruel and unusual, considering the physical effects of the injection (basically suffocating someone), I think it's no more humane than electrocution at all. It's just less unpleasant for the witnesses.

As a death penalty supporter, I think that, after all appeals are exhausted, they should just take the inmate, march him into a room, tie him to the chair, then have someone come in and shoot them in the back of the head. May be a little messy, but it's quick, easy, and cheap.
 
2014-05-23 06:26:11 AM  

cman: Imagine if SCOTUS decides that ole sparky isnt cruel and unusual

Can we go back to making lethal injection drugs more available again?


You know, Nembutal is not really supposed to be a "lethal injection drug". If having your government kill citizens is so important, can't you just go back to hangings, beheadings or firing squads?
 
2014-05-23 06:26:33 AM  
Government provide health care: some reps will fight it tooth and nail.

Government performs executions/kill people: hey, how many ways CAN we kill someone legally?
 
2014-05-23 06:28:23 AM  
All these methods seem so slow and painful. Why not a firing squad? If I had to choose, I would request seven riflemen: three shots to the head, four to the chest. That MUST be instantaneous.
 
2014-05-23 06:32:28 AM  
Draw and quarter them with monster trucks on pay-per-view.
 
2014-05-23 06:33:17 AM  

stoli n coke: cman: Imagine if SCOTUS decides that ole sparky isnt cruel and unusual

Can we go back to making lethal injection drugs more available again?


Availability isn't the problem on the buyer's end. The company that made the bulk of the drugs used in executions, based in Europe, decided they don't want to make or sell them anymore.


No, Lundbeck still makes and sells Nembutal, they just don't allow it to be used for executions. It's meant for medical use.
 
2014-05-23 06:33:25 AM  
If the state must execute people then why the fark not overdose them with fentanyl?
 
2014-05-23 06:33:33 AM  
Didn't we just have a thread where mouth breathers chimed in with their wank fest execution fantasies?
 
2014-05-23 06:33:37 AM  

Bugerz: Lackofname: Anyone know why guillotines went out of style? I mean, talk about instant and painless. Is it the mess?

Relevant to the discussion.

Not the mess so much as they weren't sure it was actually a humane way of killing people. Even after decapitation the brain continues to function for several minutes and observational tests showed decapitated heads still reacting to external stimulus such as calling the beheaded persons name causing the eyes to open and look at the person that called their name. Considering I have not extensively studied the guillotine and its disuse, my knowledge is sketchy at best.



I may be wrong, but I would think having a severed spinal cord and brain stem takes care of the whole pain thing.
 
2014-05-23 06:34:11 AM  
I never understood the whole resistance (pun intended) to electric chairs and other forms of capital punishment.  If I were facing the possibility of life without parole, I personally would want a lethal injection.  Even hanging is better than rotting in a maximum-security prison.  I've heard of a few times of lifers purposely murdering their cell mates in hopes of being sent to the chair.

Yes, some defendants will use every legal tactic in the books to avoid the death penalty.  I personally think they're dumb animals for choosing a rotten existence behind bars instead of the release of death, but to each his own...
 
2014-05-23 06:36:17 AM  
Just make sure the sponge is wet, Percy.

Roll on two!
 
2014-05-23 06:36:30 AM  
Nice! Can't beat the classics after all. Good for you, TN.
 
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