Rincewind53: but it's one of the best-written articles I've seen in ages.
Dusk-You-n-Me: Rincewind53: but it's one of the best-written articles I've seen in ages.T-NC is one of the best writers of our time.
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itcamefromschenectady: Do Jews deserve money because of the Holocaust, if they didn't personally live through it?
violentsalvation: Rincewind53 finally had the time to finish the last half (long day). If this:In the 1970s, the Yale Law professor Boris Bittker argued in The Case for Black Reparations that a rough price tag for reparations could be determined by multiplying the number of African Americans in the population by the difference in white and black per capita income. That number-$34 billion in 1973, when Bittker wrote his book-could be added to a reparations program each year for a decade or two. Today Charles Ogletree, the Harvard Law School professor, argues for something broader: a program of job training and public works that takes racial justice as its mission but includes the poor of all races.plus ending the drug war and completely reworking the criminal justice system can be called reparations than I'm all for it. Of course I don't expect that wealth gap to instantly close either, it will take generations to undo. Pragmatism.
Kyro: So racism ends the moment we write the great-great-grandchildren of slaves a check? Something tells me that's not quite that simple.Nor is it ever going to happen. How about the families of the Chinese brutalized into building the continental railroad? The Irish oppression in the northeast? Women? So far the closest we've gotten to paying for the moral failings of our forefathers is throwing some tax breaks to the handful of Native Americans we failed to wipe out.
Rincewind53: If you read the article, it's not about slavery reparations.
Rincewind53: It is hypocritical for Americans to claim the heritage of Valley Forge and the Declaration of Independence and then dismiss white supremacy as "just the past."
Rincewind53: And "sundown towns", which were towns where blacks were not allowed on the streets after dark, existed until the 1980s. I was born less than five years after the last sundown down went away.
Kyro: So racism ends the moment we write the great-great-grandchildren of slaves a check?
DubtodaIll: Yeah, money heals all wounds.
To The Escape Zeppelin!: Sounds more like a problem with the decline of social mobility in the US than with racism. The poor in the US remain poor, doesn't matter if you're black or white.
IlGreven: itcamefromschenectady: Do Jews deserve money because of the Holocaust, if they didn't personally live through it?...they got an entire country. What have blacks gotten other than centuries of oppression?
Flying Lasagna Monster: Barack Obama would pay reparations to himself?
vernonFL: 40 acres and a mule, Jack.
Yogimus: Give me the name of your ancestor that was a slave.
Babwa Wawa: DubtodaIll: Yeah, money heals all wounds.That's false. In the same sense that "money can't heal any wounds" is false.
Jim_Callahan: // Historically, it's taken disenfranchised populations a generations or perhaps two to go from legally granted equal footing to having actual economic equal footing and enfranchisement. We've seen it with women, the Irish, etc. The only historical example of reparations for anything we really have is the founding of Israel, and that's... not really a strong argument in favor. Maybe a good argument against..
DubtodaIll: forgot to use a sarcastrophe there. Obviously money can only buy things. The entire argument for reparations does not hold water. It will not make anyone whole. You think more handouts is going to do anything to improve the plight of black people in America? The only way to success is through the achievements of your own work and effort. Guilting someone into giving you things is the way con men make their money.
Babwa Wawa: People don't want to sit down and read something that can't be consumed in less than 60 seconds, yet feel compelled to offer an opinion.
vernonFL: Yogimus: Give me the name of your ancestor that was a slave.Again, RTFA. Oppression against blacks did not stop in 1865. It continues to this day.
Abox: My family didn't come here til around 1900 so don't blame me.
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