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2014-05-22 09:05:33 PM  

UseUrHeadFred: Funny. I'm nostalgic of ignorance.


There's still plenty of it around. The average Facebook user still posts the image of the missing child that 60 seconds in Google would reveal had been found safe months previously.
 
2014-05-22 09:08:29 PM  

Rapmaster2000: tripleseven: 99.998er: I am confused. What is color now for terrorist attack? Do I need to break out the duct tape again?

When I look back to the aughts, I am sickened.

I googled the threat level to remind myself of that and this image came up.
[truthernews.files.wordpress.com image 342x246]
I have no idea what the creator is trying to say.  It's a glorious expression of confused menace.


I am equally confused.

I am sure it makes perfect sense to the derpers.
 
2014-05-22 09:10:35 PM  
It's being taken over by the Koch brothers.
 
2014-05-22 09:11:04 PM  

Nix Nightbird: So now what will they say is the origin of "The Hum"?


Not knowing the words?
 
2014-05-22 09:12:54 PM  

Danger Avoid Death: Nix Nightbird: So now what will they say is the origin of "The Hum"?

Not knowing the words?


Ba-dum-tish!
 
2014-05-22 09:20:49 PM  
There was a video I was prompted to watch ... of nonsense vague claims by 'scientists' about the dangers of HAARP. When I told the person who prompted me to view the video that I wasn't impressed, he went on about 'the claims the HAARP scientists' and "didn't you watch the video? They explain it there - the HAARP scientists!"

I guess it's always like that.
I get similar responses from those who want me to watch 'loose change' or 'killer robots are coming' videos.

"I saw the KR vid. Didn't say much of anything but "killer robots are coming, let's hope we use them good and not evil.""
"Yeah so you saw the video, how the guy talks about the killer robots. Killer robots!"
"Yeah, but he didn't really say anything. What's your opinion?"
"It's all in the video. Watch the video!"
"I did. Says nothing."
"Killer robots!"
"..."
"Did you watch the video?"
 
2014-05-22 09:24:06 PM  

Mister Peejay: AstroJesus: This is actually very bad news. The defense has failed and the Earth has been infiltrated. The Mother Ship can now advance. The light drones will arrive soon.  Stand on a hill some dark night this summer, and prepare for an alien invasion.


//sheeple sheeple

That reminds me, you can sing "Milk milk lemonade around the corner fudge is made" to the tune of Iron Man.

/YOU WILL NEVER UNHEAR IT


It all makes sense now. Iron Man is the Tootsie Roll.
 
2014-05-22 09:25:37 PM  
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The only thing that's ever been genuinely worthy of a conspiracy theory was the Norway Light Spiral. The fact that everyone immediately believed that it was a failed missile launch has me convinced it was something else. It's like the public collectively knew something was weird, but decided it was easier to ignore what nobody could understand.
 
2014-05-22 09:26:55 PM  
I'm still waiting for Art Bell to come back. Again.
 
2014-05-22 09:29:30 PM  

Morchella: I worked for the army's weather modification research unit in the early 70s when I had to be in the army (first year of lottery and only year my number went). Possibly sent there because my degree is in meteorology. Can't speak for the other services, but any significant weather modification was definitely beyond them as was most insignificant stuff.


I hears you.  I spent a couple years serving in a British Thermal Unit myself.
 
2014-05-22 09:30:10 PM  
So...what were the conclusions or discoveries made by this quarter billion dollars worth of research?
 
2014-05-22 09:33:08 PM  

DubtodaIll: So...what were the conclusions or discoveries made by this quarter billion dollars worth of research?


Alaska gets cold.
 
2014-05-22 09:33:28 PM  

Rapmaster2000: tripleseven: 99.998er: I am confused. What is color now for terrorist attack? Do I need to break out the duct tape again?

When I look back to the aughts, I am sickened.

I googled the threat level to remind myself of that and this image came up.
[truthernews.files.wordpress.com image 342x246]
I have no idea what the creator is trying to say.  It's a glorious expression of confused menace.


I am going to take a stab at this and say that maybe that Satan image in the smoke of WTC worked so well for them, they decided to run it up the flagpole again.
 
2014-05-22 09:35:03 PM  
In a world of disinformation and double disinformation, the announcement that HAARP is closing down is either true or false depending on what is they want you to believe.
 
2014-05-22 09:36:14 PM  
1. Government shuts down HAARP.
2. "HAARP clouds" continue to appear.
3. ZOMG!

Art Bell & Co. have nothing to worry about.
 
2014-05-22 09:38:18 PM  

AndreMA: Morchella: Can't speak for the other services, but any significant weather modification was definitely beyond them as was most insignificant stuff.

I imagine mostly traditional cloud seeding with silver iodide, in an effort to either rain on the enemy or prevent rain on yourselves... probably with about as much success as it sees in agriculture...


What would the military do with the ability to control the rain?  Try to bury an enemy platoon in a mudslide?

Seems like a drone strike would be much faster and more effective.
 
2014-05-22 09:44:44 PM  

DonkeyDixon: The only thing that's ever been genuinely worthy of a conspiracy theory was the Norway Light Spiral. The fact that everyone immediately believed that it was a failed missile launch has me convinced it was something else. It's like the public collectively knew something was weird, but decided it was easier to ignore what nobody could understand.


China had one of those too didn't it?
 
2014-05-22 09:57:02 PM  
I'm sure they'll keep at it, saying HAARP was a front because it became to well known and that the REAL facility is somewhere up in Greenland or Svalbard.
 
2014-05-22 10:01:59 PM  

anfrind: AndreMA: Morchella: Can't speak for the other services, but any significant weather modification was definitely beyond them as was most insignificant stuff.

I imagine mostly traditional cloud seeding with silver iodide, in an effort to either rain on the enemy or prevent rain on yourselves... probably with about as much success as it sees in agriculture...

What would the military do with the ability to control the rain?  Try to bury an enemy platoon in a mudslide?

Seems like a drone strike would be much faster and more effective.


Well, Morchella was speaking of his experiences in the 1970s -- pre-drone as we know them today. I would guess that if you're fighting a guerrilla war against a diffuse, scattered enemy that heavy rains might hinder them more than you. Or if you need to build runways during monsoon season, you might get some additional working days by causing the rain to fall upwind of you.
 
2014-05-22 10:07:16 PM  
Meh, they'll just talk about how they think it's still on and causing all that's wrong with the world.

The tinfoil hat crowd won't be stopped that easily.
 
2014-05-22 10:13:03 PM  
Who wants to scrap that sucker with me?
 
2014-05-22 10:15:29 PM  
HAARP: Antarctic ice melting irreversibly? Mission accomplished.
 
2014-05-22 10:24:12 PM  

Danger Avoid Death: RoxtarRyan: I wonder how many of these people believe that this program controls weather, but at the same time say that mankind has no influence on the climate.

Some people can be dicks about the weather.

[www.strangebillions.com image 597x406]


God!....We're farked.
 
2014-05-22 10:30:24 PM  

AndreMA: anfrind: AndreMA: Morchella: Can't speak for the other services, but any significant weather modification was definitely beyond them as was most insignificant stuff.

I imagine mostly traditional cloud seeding with silver iodide, in an effort to either rain on the enemy or prevent rain on yourselves... probably with about as much success as it sees in agriculture...

What would the military do with the ability to control the rain?  Try to bury an enemy platoon in a mudslide?

Seems like a drone strike would be much faster and more effective.

Well, Morchella was speaking of his experiences in the 1970s -- pre-drone as we know them today. I would guess that if you're fighting a guerrilla war against a diffuse, scattered enemy that heavy rains might hinder them more than you. Or if you need to build runways during monsoon season, you might get some additional working days by causing the rain to fall upwind of you.


well, to be fair, the 70's will be close to 50 years ago...half a century...any advances in calculators, computers, robotics, probably seemed insignificant too at the time or beyond them.
 
2014-05-22 10:33:54 PM  
The facility mentioned was just a learning lab for the methods of weather control enabled by the cellular network. Distributed weather influence through cell towers.
 
2014-05-22 11:06:27 PM  
Tessa's death ray was better than HAARP.
 
2014-05-22 11:12:18 PM  
I love me some Coast-to-Coast.  For some reason, that format keeps me awake when driving stupid late at night better than anything else.  They had an extra bat shiat insane lady on last night with some kind of astrology/numerology thing.  She was awesome b/c she just believed it soooooo much.
 
2014-05-22 11:15:48 PM  
They're moving it to Benghazi.
 
2014-05-22 11:26:05 PM  
Well, dbootsthediva (a.k.a. crazy sprinkler lady) will be very happy to hear about this!
 
2014-05-22 11:28:47 PM  
Something's up.  First they shut down the ELF antenna, our only defense against subterranean elf and troll attack, and soon we're overrun with elves.  And now they are shutting down HAARP, so we'll be unable to defend ourselves from harpists and harpies.
 
2014-05-22 11:57:20 PM  

Morchella: I worked for the army's weather modification research unit in the early 70s when I had to be in the army (first year of lottery and only year my number went). Possibly sent there because my degree is in meteorology. Can't speak for the other services, but any significant weather modification was definitely beyond them as was most insignificant stuff.


That sounds incredibly cool. Mad science is as awesome in its failed attempts as in its successes.
 
2014-05-23 12:13:09 AM  

ginkor: Something's up.  First they shut down the ELF antenna, our only defense against subterranean elf and troll attack, and soon we're overrun with elves.  And now they are shutting down HAARP, so we'll be unable to defend ourselves from harpists and harpies.


It's a conspiracy by the organs.
 
2014-05-23 12:28:15 AM  

Hyjamon: AndreMA: anfrind: AndreMA: Morchella: Can't speak for the other services, but any significant weather modification was definitely beyond them as was most insignificant stuff.

I imagine mostly traditional cloud seeding with silver iodide, in an effort to either rain on the enemy or prevent rain on yourselves... probably with about as much success as it sees in agriculture...

What would the military do with the ability to control the rain?  Try to bury an enemy platoon in a mudslide?

Seems like a drone strike would be much faster and more effective.

Well, Morchella was speaking of his experiences in the 1970s -- pre-drone as we know them today. I would guess that if you're fighting a guerrilla war against a diffuse, scattered enemy that heavy rains might hinder them more than you. Or if you need to build runways during monsoon season, you might get some additional working days by causing the rain to fall upwind of you.

well, to be fair, the 70's will be close to 50 years ago...half a century...any advances in calculators, computers, robotics, probably seemed insignificant too at the time or beyond them.


In any case, it seems like yet another example of preparing for the last war.  Controlling the rain in the jungles of Vietnam might be useful.  Doing the same in the deserts of the Middle East might not accomplish a whole lot.  And if Putin actually starts World War III, I suppose that diverting snowfall might be useful if the need arose to invade Russia in the winter, but I'm not sure it would really help that much.
 
2014-05-23 12:30:38 AM  

ginkor: Something's up.  First they shut down the ELF antenna, our only defense against subterranean elf and troll attack, and soon we're overrun with elves.  And now they are shutting down HAARP, so we'll be unable to defend ourselves from harpists and harpies.


Maybe the Harpers will intervene.
 
2014-05-23 12:42:42 AM  

Wake Up Sheeple: RoxtarRyan: DrunkWithImpotence: Wake up sheeple!!!!

anfrind: WAKE UP SHEEPLE!

AstroJesus: //sheeple sheeple

[imgs.xkcd.com image 850x253]

When you call my name, it's like a little prayer.


3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-05-23 12:48:18 AM  
One good thing about HAARP though. It's like a giant Rorschach blot you can use to out a closet conspiracy goof. Just mention HAARP, and within five minutes, they will have their tinfoil and radio jamming out, foaming at the mouth, and ranting about the Illuminati and how Pope Francis is the Anti-Christ because it speaks in tongues (AKA Latin to the more enlightened.)
 
2014-05-23 12:53:16 AM  

anfrind: Hyjamon: AndreMA: anfrind: AndreMA: Morchella: Can't speak for the other services, but any significant weather modification was definitely beyond them as was most insignificant stuff.

I imagine mostly traditional cloud seeding with silver iodide, in an effort to either rain on the enemy or prevent rain on yourselves... probably with about as much success as it sees in agriculture...

What would the military do with the ability to control the rain?  Try to bury an enemy platoon in a mudslide?

Seems like a drone strike would be much faster and more effective.

Well, Morchella was speaking of his experiences in the 1970s -- pre-drone as we know them today. I would guess that if you're fighting a guerrilla war against a diffuse, scattered enemy that heavy rains might hinder them more than you. Or if you need to build runways during monsoon season, you might get some additional working days by causing the rain to fall upwind of you.

well, to be fair, the 70's will be close to 50 years ago...half a century...any advances in calculators, computers, robotics, probably seemed insignificant too at the time or beyond them.

In any case, it seems like yet another example of preparing for the last war.  Controlling the rain in the jungles of Vietnam might be useful.  Doing the same in the deserts of the Middle East might not accomplish a whole lot.  And if Putin actually starts World War III, I suppose that diverting snowfall might be useful if the need arose to invade Russia in the winter, but I'm not sure it would really help that much.


I agree with your argument, but I am thinking more of a long con game in play.  if you can keep a region or country in drought for a decade or more, while you are an "ally" with that country, that can have significant strategic advantage.

I can see how a haarp program was born under the idea of causing rain tomorrow, but if they realized controlling climate for a decade or more can have an advantage, then it was all worth it.
 
2014-05-23 01:06:03 AM  
I remember coming across a site a few years ago that thought the NWO/ZOG/UN/REPTILOIDS used HAARP to cause mass shootings like Columbine, so that the government could then take away all of our guns.  And then send us to concentration camps.

Good stuff.
 
2014-05-23 01:09:23 AM  
Given it's location, officially stated mission, and the guys funding it, I always figured it was just an attempt to create electronic jamming in the ionosphere, in order to screw with Russian missiles in the event of war.  You know, since their missiles would be passing right over the Arctic.
 
2014-05-23 01:42:40 AM  
Chiun: Professional assassination. It's the highest form of public service.
 
2014-05-23 01:43:13 AM  
Mister Peejay:

That reminds me, you can sing "Milk milk lemonade around the corner fudge is made" to the tune of Iron Man.

/YOU WILL NEVER UNHEAR IT


Hey. Fark you, man. I liked that song.
 
2014-05-23 01:48:19 AM  

TemperedEdge: kling_klang_bed: (they need to bring that back, btw)

Showed up for this. Left happy.


And I'll one up it for ya!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOs5AeGeu4Y&index=2&list=PLHRKZ-RMYW NY Jc_iCdIO1-fU-blxI1BGW
 
2014-05-23 02:52:37 AM  

Duke_leto_Atredes: Chiun: Professional assassination. It's the highest form of public service.


"You move with the grace of a drunken gorilla. Also, your elbow is bent. Heh heh heh."
 
2014-05-23 04:01:23 AM  
I walked right into the control shack of HAARP in the mid 90s or thereabouts. Everyone on their lunch break was very confused when they trickled back in about 10 minutes later.
 
2014-05-23 05:31:19 AM  

UseUrHeadFred: One thing a miss about the "pre-internet" days of early Art Bell... back then, fact and fiction were much harder to tell apart, at least for me.  One simply did not google something to see if it was the truth.   Or check snopes.  You sort of relied on the people around you.  There was a certain feeling, in my mind, that aliens or whatever could have been real - if only there were better lines of communication and the right person were in the right place at the right time with a camera.  The show really did feel like one of the few places people could share reports of such things.

And, well, look how that turned out.  Instant communication and a high-quality camera in every pocket in the world.  So much for the aliens.

Funny.  I'm nostalgic of ignorance.


You'd be surprised how fast fake rumors can spread in this day and age.

True, you'll be able to confirm it false in a short while, but by then, the damage is done.
 
2014-05-23 07:54:39 AM  

Mister Peejay: AstroJesus: This is actually very bad news. The defense has failed and the Earth has been infiltrated. The Mother Ship can now advance. The light drones will arrive soon.  Stand on a hill some dark night this summer, and prepare for an alien invasion.


//sheeple sheeple

That reminds me, you can sing "Milk milk lemonade around the corner fudge is made" to the tune of Iron Man.

/YOU WILL NEVER UNHEAR IT


Goddammit. Now that's stuck in my head. Thanks a lot.
 
2014-05-23 08:25:00 AM  
That's just like, what they want you to BELIEVE maaaaaannnn.
 
2014-05-23 09:54:16 AM  

Nix Nightbird: So now what will they say is the origin of "The Hum"?


Revelations, probably.
 
2014-05-23 10:40:39 AM  

RoxtarRyan: I wonder how many of these people believe that this program controls weather, but at the same time say that mankind has no influence on the climate.


Is weather the same as climate?

There was a UN convention banning weather warfare, among other things, in the late 70s:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convention_on_the_Prohibition_of_Militar y _or_Any_Other_Hostile_Use_of_Environmental_Modification_Techniques
 
2014-05-23 10:49:03 AM  

common sense is an oxymoron: 1. Government shuts down HAARP.
2. "HAARP clouds" continue to appear.
3. ZOMG!

Art Bell & Co. have nothing to worry about.


Maybe after it shuts down "climate change" disappears, CO2 levels drop like a rock, glaciers make a dramatic comeback and global temperature levels out. Just think of all the conspiracy theories that could happen!!
/tilts tinfoil hat
 
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