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(Den Of Geek)   In the distant year 2010, two alien invasion movies battled to see which could be the worst film ever paired with cutting-edge special effects. Only one glowed red enough for a sequel   (denofgeek.com) divider line 108
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2014-05-22 10:24:03 AM
Just as long as it involves characters I don't care about arguing about whether or not to go outside for the better part of an hour, I'll be happy.
 
2014-05-22 10:30:59 AM
Ugh, thanks for reminding me about Battle: Los Angeles. A Marine recruitment video meets a laughably paint by numbers script and plot.
 
2014-05-22 10:44:32 AM
Didn't see either....and that's a good thing.
 
2014-05-22 11:17:25 AM
Is skyline actually worth a bored drunken watch? They make it sound like it is
 
2014-05-22 11:20:16 AM
Battle: Los Angeles was entertaining. Skyline was annoying.
 
2014-05-22 11:24:50 AM
Man, why does Hollywood keep putting out these shiatty beyond belief sci-fi movies.  :(
 
2014-05-22 11:26:30 AM

Satanic_Hamster: Man, why does Hollywood keep putting out these shiatty beyond belief sci-fi movies.  :(


Because people keep seeing them.
 
2014-05-22 11:28:20 AM
I think a good antidote for how bad 'Skyline' was is 'Attack the Block'.
Instead of stupid people doing stupid things when under siege by aliens, it features stupid people trying to be smart and doing believable things when under siege by aliens.
 
2014-05-22 11:29:58 AM

Boojum2k: Battle: Los Angeles was entertaining. Skyline was annoying.


Battle: LA's only flaw was that it tried to be a well-rounded movie.  No one went to that movie caring about the Marines' back-stories or interpersonal conflicts.
 
2014-05-22 11:32:03 AM

thecpt: Is skyline actually worth a bored drunken watch? They make it sound like it is


For some reason my wife and I really enjoyed it. She usually hates stupid sci-fi movies ('Timeline,' for example, had to get shut off halfway through), and while we went in fully prepared to take everything with a grain of salt, it was actually a lot of fun. The ending was ballsy and I'm looking forward to seeing what direction everything goes.

On the other hand, she rather enjoyed "Battle LA" also, which I was much more 'meh' about...
 
2014-05-22 11:32:39 AM

exparrot: I think a good antidote for how bad 'Skyline' was is 'Attack the Block'.
Instead of stupid people doing stupid things when under siege by aliens, it features stupid people trying to be smart and doing believable things when under siege by aliens.


Since I've already shot my credibility to hell with the Fark movies snobs, I'm going to go ahead and say that I didn't much care for Attack the Block.  I thought it was predictable and cliched.
 
2014-05-22 11:38:52 AM

The Crepes of Wrath: Satanic_Hamster: Man, why does Hollywood keep putting out these shiatty beyond belief sci-fi movies.  :(

Because people keep seeing them.


Case in point: Battle LA made over $200 million at the box office off a budget of about $70 million.

"shiatty" doesn't mean "not profitable", and Hollywood's far more concerned about the latter.
 
2014-05-22 11:39:25 AM

Fish in a Barrel: Boojum2k: Battle: Los Angeles was entertaining. Skyline was annoying.

Battle: LA's only flaw was that it tried to be a well-rounded movie.  No one went to that movie caring about the Marines' back-stories or interpersonal conflicts.


Is it possible to even make a movie where the characters simply deal with the crisis at hand and have no personal stake other than survival? Did they do this with Blackhawk Down?
 
2014-05-22 11:40:42 AM

Fish in a Barrel: exparrot: I think a good antidote for how bad 'Skyline' was is 'Attack the Block'.
Instead of stupid people doing stupid things when under siege by aliens, it features stupid people trying to be smart and doing believable things when under siege by aliens.

Since I've already shot my credibility to hell with the Fark movies snobs, I'm going to go ahead and say that I didn't much care for Attack the Block.  I thought it was predictable and cliched.


Attack the Block was a piece of crap.  I have no idea what anyone sees in that film.
 
2014-05-22 11:43:06 AM

thecpt: Is skyline actually worth a bored drunken watch? They make it sound like it is


As long as you aren't illegally downloading it, yeah, it's worth a watch. It's not worth being part of the potential hassles of an anti-piracy lawsuit, but it might be worth it if you have an option to view it for under 5$.
 
2014-05-22 11:48:34 AM

frepnog: Fish in a Barrel: exparrot: I think a good antidote for how bad 'Skyline' was is 'Attack the Block'.
Instead of stupid people doing stupid things when under siege by aliens, it features stupid people trying to be smart and doing believable things when under siege by aliens.

Since I've already shot my credibility to hell with the Fark movies snobs, I'm going to go ahead and say that I didn't much care for Attack the Block.  I thought it was predictable and cliched.

Attack the Block was a piece of crap.  I have no idea what anyone sees in that film.


Agreed. Hated that movie. Hated every single scumbag character in that movie. Except Nick Frost. Can't hate Nick Frost.
On the other hand I enjoyed Battle:Los Angeles. Thought it was a decent film and I liked how the Aliens were actually hard to kill.
 
2014-05-22 11:49:22 AM

thecpt: Is skyline actually worth a bored drunken watch? They make it sound like it is


Even though it's not a good movie, I don't think it's nearly as bad as others make it out to be. I don't think it's quite bad enough to enjoy on a "So bad it's good level." Watch Dreamcatcher instead for something similar.


It did kind of seem like an overly elaborate way of setting up the sequel, though.
 
2014-05-22 11:58:34 AM

Slaves2Darkness: The biggest problem with Battle LA had is unless the aliens are here to eat our sweet meats and fark our women why the hell would they come down a gravity well to extract resources? Extracting resources in the well is extremely inefficient. We have a shiat ton of water out there in space, a whole bunch of metal and minerals locked into an asteroid belt, and an entire moon filled with hydrocarbons.

Other than food and/or sex why would aliens invade? I mean Earth is nice and all, but it has dam persistent apes who object with explosives when you hunt them down and squish them like the savages they are.


Does trying to explain the alien invasion ever work?  It seems everyone always goes for the "resource exploitation" motivation, when that makes no farking sense.  Anything you can get on Earth you can get elsewhere with a lot less work.  Except meat and women.  ;-)
 
2014-05-22 11:59:04 AM
Attack the Block was a great movie.  A few hamfisted parts, but overall, really well done.  Skyline was utter dreck,  Battle: Los Angeles was decent enough.
 
2014-05-22 11:59:22 AM

Decillion: Fish in a Barrel: Boojum2k: Battle: Los Angeles was entertaining. Skyline was annoying.

Battle: LA's only flaw was that it tried to be a well-rounded movie.  No one went to that movie caring about the Marines' back-stories or interpersonal conflicts.

Is it possible to even make a movie where the characters simply deal with the crisis at hand and have no personal stake other than survival? Did they do this with Blackhawk Down?


Sometimes it makes for a BETTER movie.  For example, "The Steel Helmet", made during the Korean war, shows soldiers that just want to get through it alive, and it made for one of the best war movies ever filmed.  It threw out all that "what we're fighting for" malarkey and "the folks back home" sentimentality (in fact some of the only "folks back home" dialogue is when a prisoner reminds the outfit that for the black guy, he had to go to Korea to be able to eat with white people,  and reminds the Japanese guy that while he was fighting in Europe in the last war, his family was locked up in an internment camp).  Other than that, the guys aren't depicted as having any personal stake in it, which was most likely pretty accurate from the soldier's point of view.
 
2014-05-22 12:00:55 PM

Slaves2Darkness: The biggest problem with Battle LA had is unless the aliens are here to eat our sweet meats and fark our women why the hell would they come down a gravity well to extract resources? Extracting resources in the well is extremely inefficient. We have a shiat ton of water out there in space, a whole bunch of metal and minerals locked into an asteroid belt, and an entire moon filled with hydrocarbons.

Other than food and/or sex why would aliens invade? I mean Earth is nice and all, but it has dam persistent apes who object with explosives when you hunt them down and squish them like the savages they are.


That would make an interesting sci-fi novel I think.

Picture it: the solar system is scouted by, and eventually invaded by an alien race seeking resources, who proceed to just, well, start taking them from the low grav worlds, asteroid belt, etc.  Humans, despite their panic that we are next, quickly learn that the aliens have no interest in Earth itself, and seem to ignore any cries from us that those resources belong to humanity, given we aren't making any attempt to get them, and the aliens know we an do jack shiat all to stop them.
 
2014-05-22 12:02:25 PM

Decillion: Fish in a Barrel: Boojum2k: Battle: Los Angeles was entertaining. Skyline was annoying.

Battle: LA's only flaw was that it tried to be a well-rounded movie.  No one went to that movie caring about the Marines' back-stories or interpersonal conflicts.

Is it possible to even make a movie where the characters simply deal with the crisis at hand and have no personal stake other than survival? Did they do this with Blackhawk Down?


Maybe, I'm just spit-balling here.

B:LA was obviously trying to be "Blackhawk Down with aliens."  They both open in sequences that try to humanize the characters, showing that they have lives and people that care for them.  This part grates on me in both movies, because it's so ham-fisted and blatant.  What really bugs me is the drama they try to inject with the Sergeant's back-story of a mission gone wrong, which just happens to have killed the brother of one of his subordinates.  It was tedious and unnecessary.

Consider "Aliens".  It's another Marines versus aliens movie, but it's much tighter.  We know next to nothing about those Marines.  They're still interesting, and we care what happens to them.  What conflicts we have in the group are mostly internally driven, which feels more natural to me.
 
2014-05-22 12:09:51 PM

Boojum2k: Battle: Los Angeles was entertaining. Skyline was annoying.


I went into it KNOWING that it wasn't going to be good.  I had a few beers, turned off my brain, and enjoyed the gunfire and explosions.
 
2014-05-22 12:11:11 PM
who cares about these crappy movies. when are we getting a seq to district 9?


discuss
 
2014-05-22 12:11:37 PM
I meant Battle: Los Angeles...should have clarified there.
 
2014-05-22 12:13:16 PM

Fish in a Barrel: Slaves2Darkness: The biggest problem with Battle LA had is unless the aliens are here to eat our sweet meats and fark our women why the hell would they come down a gravity well to extract resources? Extracting resources in the well is extremely inefficient. We have a shiat ton of water out there in space, a whole bunch of metal and minerals locked into an asteroid belt, and an entire moon filled with hydrocarbons.

Other than food and/or sex why would aliens invade? I mean Earth is nice and all, but it has dam persistent apes who object with explosives when you hunt them down and squish them like the savages they are.

Does trying to explain the alien invasion ever work?  It seems everyone always goes for the "resource exploitation" motivation, when that makes no farking sense.  Anything you can get on Earth you can get elsewhere with a lot less work.  Except meat and women.  ;-)


Except, of course, for a reasonable planet to colonize, which might be another motivation:  Non-artificial lebensraum.
 
2014-05-22 12:13:16 PM

Fish in a Barrel: Slaves2Darkness: The biggest problem with Battle LA had is unless the aliens are here to eat our sweet meats and fark our women why the hell would they come down a gravity well to extract resources? Extracting resources in the well is extremely inefficient. We have a shiat ton of water out there in space, a whole bunch of metal and minerals locked into an asteroid belt, and an entire moon filled with hydrocarbons.

Other than food and/or sex why would aliens invade? I mean Earth is nice and all, but it has dam persistent apes who object with explosives when you hunt them down and squish them like the savages they are.

Does trying to explain the alien invasion ever work?  It seems everyone always goes for the "resource exploitation" motivation, when that makes no farking sense.  Anything you can get on Earth you can get elsewhere with a lot less work.  Except meat and women.  ;-)



Well at least Skyline had a much more plausible explanation in that (SPOILER ALERT) the aliens were here to steal human brains which apparently powered all of their technology. Yes, that's the actual plot.
 
2014-05-22 12:14:57 PM

Freakin Rican: who cares about these crappy movies. when are we getting a seq to district 9?


discuss


But District 9 was a crappy movie.....
 
2014-05-22 12:15:54 PM
Skyline sucked, except for the scenes over the end credits...those would have at least made a good popcorn movie.  Instead we got an hour and a half of bright blue lights and stupidity.
 
2014-05-22 12:16:57 PM
Skyline was a steaming pile of sh*t.
 
2014-05-22 12:17:19 PM

FeedTheCollapse: thecpt: Is skyline actually worth a bored drunken watch? They make it sound like it is

Even though it's not a good movie, I don't think it's nearly as bad as others make it out to be. I don't think it's quite bad enough to enjoy on a "So bad it's good level." Watch Dreamcatcher instead for something similar.


It did kind of seem like an overly elaborate way of setting up the sequel, though.


I love dreamcatcher. A caste waaay too good for the film they are in.

Anyways, I think skyline was on Netflix streaming at one point so guys my Thursday night is booked
 
2014-05-22 12:19:50 PM

Boojum2k: Battle: Los Angeles was entertaining. Skyline was annoying.


I rather enjoyed Battle: Los Angeles.  The plot was non-existent outside of the need to kill the aliens, and the meaning of heroism or whatever speech was eye-roll material, but as a popcorn flick it was pretty good.
 
2014-05-22 12:21:14 PM
I loved Battle: L.A.
I saw it with my 13 year old son and we had a blast.

I also remember being in San Diego when Skyline was being advertised. They were releasing all these weird foam things in the shape of people that would fly around the city. It was pretty cool and we couldn't wait to see it.
Then I saw it.
The last 2 minutes of that movie are like watching The Room with the sound off.
You just sit there, head cocked going, "What?"
 
2014-05-22 12:21:18 PM

dittybopper: Except, of course, for a reasonable planet to colonize, which might be another motivation:  Non-artificial lebensraum.


Yeah, colonization is probably the best motivation.  It's one of the few that isn't contradicted by the fact that the aliens already have faster than light travel and awesome spaceships.  Although it's still probably easier to just find a planet that isn't swarming with smart apes (if you make a few assumptions about the prevalence of inhabitable planets and intelligent life).

Sybarite: Well at least Skyline had a much more plausible explanation in that (SPOILER ALERT) the aliens were here to steal human brains which apparently powered all of their technology. Yes, that's the actual plot.


Hah!  That's retarded, but it does kinda work.
 
2014-05-22 12:21:56 PM
Why can't we have an Alien Invasion Vs Zombie Apocalypse movie? Be fun to see the aliens coming down in droves to a defenseless Earth only to become lunch to herds of ravenous walkers.

/Hey, if people will watch a tornado filled with sharks.......
 
2014-05-22 12:26:19 PM

TV's Vinnie: Why can't we have an Alien Invasion Vs Zombie Apocalypse movie? Be fun to see the aliens coming down in droves to a defenseless Earth only to become lunch to herds of ravenous walkers.

/Hey, if people will watch a tornado filled with sharks.......


What if earthlings had to create the zombie horde to even out the numbers of the invading aliens?

/let's do lunch.
 
2014-05-22 12:26:50 PM

thecpt: Is skyline actually worth a bored drunken watch? They make it sound like it is


Yes definitely. The aliens were pretty well done and black Scrubs is in it as a totally unbelievable music industry person. It's far from the worst movie to ever have spent a lot of money on graphics.

But that's just my opinion, and I enjoy bad movies.
 
2014-05-22 12:27:11 PM
This thread brings to mind the short story "The Road not Taken" by John Turtledove.

*** SPOILER ***

It's a great story based on the premise that faster-than-light travel and anti-gravity are both really,  really,  really simple technologies that humanity has simply overlooked.  Earth gets invaded by an alien race barely past the bronze age.  It goes poorly for them.

*** END SPOILER ***
 
2014-05-22 12:31:05 PM

SpdrJay: Freakin Rican: who cares about these crappy movies. when are we getting a seq to district 9?


discuss

But District 9 was a crappy movie.....


lmao
LIES!!!!
 
2014-05-22 12:33:34 PM

TV's Vinnie: Why can't we have an Alien Invasion Vs Zombie Apocalypse movie? Be fun to see the aliens coming down in droves to a defenseless Earth only to become lunch to herds of ravenous walkers.

/Hey, if people will watch a tornado filled with sharks.......


I'd watch a shark filled with tornados.
 
2014-05-22 12:38:12 PM

A Leaf in Fall: Attack the Block was a great movie.  A few hamfisted parts, but overall, really well done.  Skyline was utter dreck,  Battle: Los Angeles was decent enough.


Attack the Block was great! Probs and Mayhem needed more screentime though.

I made it about 5 minutes into Battle. Don't know how I missed Skyline - I'll check that out this weekend.

Speaking of Suck - farking Penny Dreadful. Such a waste of a good opportunity! Sucks absolute goat balls. Hope it gets cancled and everybody loses money.
 
2014-05-22 12:45:46 PM

Freakin Rican: SpdrJay: Freakin Rican: who cares about these crappy movies. when are we getting a seq to district 9?


discuss

But District 9 was a crappy movie.....

lmao
LIES!!!!


I thought District 9 was irritating and boring. I didn't enjoy it a bit.

Everything about Skyline was terrible except for the special effects. The acting was the most frightening aspect of the film.

That Battle for LA movie was my least favorite though since it was just a standard war flick with aliens thrown in.
 
2014-05-22 12:47:13 PM
I didn't like either, but Battle Los Angeles irked me more because of that gravely overacted tag line "they aren't here to invade; they're here to colonize!"

Uh...no. If they were here to colonize, they'd have built a colony or factory of some sort on undesirable land, started making alliances with various local leaders, and bringing individual natives onside as they introduce new trade in exchange for help locating resources. As the colony grows and becomes more self-sufficient, it will take more land, more resources, introduce more conflict, and either absorb, destroy, or be destroyed by the native peoples.

I didn't recall any of that while Aaron Eckhart played the same farking guy again, but in the middle of a shakey camera laser fight tornado or whatever
 
2014-05-22 12:50:17 PM

Fish in a Barrel: This thread brings to mind the short story "The Road not Taken" by John Turtledove.

*** SPOILER ***

It's a great story based on the premise that faster-than-light travel and anti-gravity are both really,  really,  really simple technologies that humanity has simply overlooked.  Earth gets invaded by an alien race barely past the bronze age.  It goes poorly for them.

*** END SPOILER ***


There needs to be a Turtledove miniseries made or people are going to get cut

/wanna buy some ginger?
 
2014-05-22 12:50:42 PM
I enjoyed Skyline. But only because I saw it as a horror movie with aliens in place of supernatural/undead.

If you went in thinking it was gonna be Independence Day 2: Alien Boogergoo I can see why you were disappointed.
 
2014-05-22 12:54:26 PM

A Leaf in Fall: Attack the Block was a great movie.


name one farking thing in that film that was great.
 
2014-05-22 01:18:20 PM

frepnog: A Leaf in Fall: Attack the Block was a great movie.

name one farking thing in that film that was great.


I doubt he can I but know the answer.  It ended.
 
2014-05-22 01:19:03 PM

TV's Vinnie: Skyline was a steaming pile of sh*t.


Yep. And why the hell has there NOT been a Rifftrax on this yet? The only hope that a sequel brings is reminding Mike/Bill/Kevin that it exists, so they can rip it to shreds.
 
2014-05-22 01:26:42 PM

Sybarite: Fish in a Barrel: Slaves2Darkness: The biggest problem with Battle LA had is unless the aliens are here to eat our sweet meats and fark our women why the hell would they come down a gravity well to extract resources? Extracting resources in the well is extremely inefficient. We have a shiat ton of water out there in space, a whole bunch of metal and minerals locked into an asteroid belt, and an entire moon filled with hydrocarbons.

Other than food and/or sex why would aliens invade? I mean Earth is nice and all, but it has dam persistent apes who object with explosives when you hunt them down and squish them like the savages they are.

Does trying to explain the alien invasion ever work?  It seems everyone always goes for the "resource exploitation" motivation, when that makes no farking sense.  Anything you can get on Earth you can get elsewhere with a lot less work.  Except meat and women.  ;-)


Well at least Skyline had a much more plausible explanation in that (SPOILER ALERT) the aliens were here to steal human brains which apparently powered all of their technology. Yes, that's the actual plot.


So the aliens were basically a ripoff of the Shadows from Babylon Five.
 
2014-05-22 01:30:13 PM

Fish in a Barrel: dittybopper: Except, of course, for a reasonable planet to colonize, which might be another motivation:  Non-artificial lebensraum.


Yeah, colonization is probably the best motivation.  It's one of the few that isn't contradicted by the fact that the aliens already have faster than light travel and awesome spaceships.  Although it's still probably easier to just find a planet that isn't swarming with smart apes (if you make a few assumptions about the prevalence of inhabitable planets and intelligent life).


Wait:  I can go with awesome spaceships, but I don't recall any alien invasion movies specifically mentioning faster than light travel.

It's not strictly necessary, as fast sub-light travel would do nicely.

Take the film Independence Day, for example:  We captured one of their small craft back in Roswell, NM back in 1947, due to some sort of crash or malfunction.   The aliens show up in 1996.  So we know there is *AT LEAST* a 49 year span between the first scouting mission to the Earth, and when the invasion fleet shows up.

Even if they can only manage one half the speed of light, that's still roughly a radius of 15 light years (15 years to get radio message from scouting aliens to the mothership saying Earth is suitable, and 30 years travel time at .5c to traverse the 15 light year distance).

Within that radius, there are nearly 50 star systems.  Plenty of places they could have been exploiting.

No FTL travel required.
 
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