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(CNN)   "If Americans in prison, on parole or on probation counted as a city of their own, they would form the largest city in the United States after New York and they exceed the populations of Los Angeles and Chicago combined"   (us.cnn.com) divider line 97
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2014-05-21 11:30:13 AM  
Yeah, but the corporations running the prisons are really profiting!
 
2014-05-21 11:32:22 AM  
Suppose we combined them all into some kind of... Superjail.
 
2014-05-21 11:35:03 AM  

James!: Suppose we combined them all into some kind of... Superjail.


George Carlin's idea of fencing off some Midwestern states to use as superjails is now feasible.
 
2014-05-21 11:41:46 AM  
Send them to Cidnha Mine.

Blood and silver, friend. Blood and silver.
 
2014-05-21 11:52:27 AM  
simotron.files.wordpress.com

You meant this *wasn't* a documentary?
 
2014-05-21 12:33:13 PM  
So...more capital punishment, then?
 
2014-05-21 01:24:54 PM  

Rev.K: Send them to Cidnha Mine.

Blood and silver, friend. Blood and silver.


We would, but we took an arrow in the knee.
 
2014-05-21 01:36:36 PM  
We are good at making criminals.  USA USA!
 
2014-05-21 01:38:34 PM  
I'm old enough to remember everyone loving these three strikes laws.  It was really the perfect law for a pandering politician.  It came in an era of rising crime, it debuted at the end of a decade where "tough on crime" became the talking point, it capitalized on Willie Horton mania, and it had a baseball analogy right in the title.
 
2014-05-21 01:38:45 PM  
See folks, the War on Drugs really works!
 
2014-05-21 01:39:19 PM  
I think it is more SAD than SCARY.
 
2014-05-21 01:40:50 PM  
Just wait until you see the demographic data of this "city."
 
2014-05-21 01:41:24 PM  
Prisons are Americas version of the welfare state.
 
gja [TotalFark]
2014-05-21 01:41:25 PM  

Therion: [simotron.files.wordpress.com image 655x359]

You meant this *wasn't* a documentary?


More like wishful thinking, pal. Nobody, but nobody, every really farking escapes from NY. Not alive, anyhow.
 
2014-05-21 01:41:34 PM  
Just confirms what I thought when I lived outside the USA. It's a crumbling racist shiathole. Why did I have to marry an American??? I'm stuck here for at least 7 years until her youngest turns 18

Ugh!!!
 
2014-05-21 01:41:36 PM  
how about those of us who fall into all three categories, do we count three times or just once?
 
2014-05-21 01:42:54 PM  

James!: Suppose we combined them all into some kind of... Superjail.


Love that show.
 
2014-05-21 01:42:54 PM  
For years, the lowest weekly crime activity in New York City was Monday night from 9:00 to midnight.  A study was done that concluded Monday Night Football blew the criminals inside...in particular, Howard Cosell.  There is an answer to the problem in there somewhere...
 
2014-05-21 01:44:01 PM  

James!: Superjail


img.fark.net
 
2014-05-21 01:44:13 PM  
Projected image of what this city would look like:

jailbot.com

Yep, pretty much like Detroit, but cleaner.
 
2014-05-21 01:44:16 PM  

UncleStumpy: Just confirms what I thought when I lived outside the USA. It's a crumbling racist shiathole. Why did I have to marry an American??? I'm stuck here for at least 7 years until her youngest turns 18

Ugh!!!


When that happens you can move to China, where they kill criminals for such things as corruption.
 
jmf
2014-05-21 01:45:05 PM  

mayIFark: I think it is more SAD than SCARY.


That's because you haven't been imprisoned...


yet.
 
2014-05-21 01:45:13 PM  

mayIFark: I think it is more SAD than SCARY.


NPR had a feature on a guy who was tossed in jail for not paying his fine for fishing out of season. Remember a lot of people in prison are not violent.
 
2014-05-21 01:45:13 PM  

Maxwell T Byrd: For years, the lowest weekly crime activity in New York City was Monday night from 9:00 to midnight.  A study was done that concluded Monday Night Football blew the criminals inside...in particular, Howard Cosell.  There is an answer to the problem in there somewhere...


The lowest crime was between 2AM-3AM on the second Sunday of March.
 
2014-05-21 01:45:53 PM  
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2014-05-21 01:46:17 PM  
1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-05-21 01:46:35 PM  
 
2014-05-21 01:46:45 PM  
Prison's for profit!
 
2014-05-21 01:46:53 PM  
I don't think that NYC has more people than LA and Chicago combined.
 
2014-05-21 01:48:02 PM  

UncleStumpy: Just confirms what I thought when I lived outside the USA. It's a crumbling racist shiathole. Why did I have to marry an American??? I'm stuck here for at least 7 years until her youngest turns 18

Ugh!!!


Guess what? We don't want your poutine-slurping ass here anyhow. Back to the GWN you hoser!
 
2014-05-21 01:48:02 PM  

James!: Suppose we combined them all into some kind of... Superjail.


Yes, I think it would be a good idea to concentrate all our undesirables into one area.
 
2014-05-21 01:48:10 PM  
I remember that classic George Carlin bit.  The one about one door will open once a year for a few seconds (iirc) so the creme de la creme will be released.
 
2014-05-21 01:48:17 PM  

monoski: mayIFark: I think it is more SAD than SCARY.

NPR had a feature on a guy who was tossed in jail for not paying his fine for fishing out of season. Remember a lot of people in prison are not violent.


That's exactly my point. Way too many people are imprisoned for nonviolent reasons and on simple things like pot. The number shouldn't have been that high. To me, scary implied that there are so many scary people, but that is not the case.
 
2014-05-21 01:49:17 PM  

monoski: mayIFark: I think it is more SAD than SCARY.

NPR had a feature on a guy who was tossed in jail for not paying his fine for fishing out of season. Remember a lot of people in prison are not violent.


Jail != Prison

/jussayin
 
2014-05-21 01:50:23 PM  
i57.tinypic.com
 
2014-05-21 01:52:17 PM  
Newt Gingrich.
 
2014-05-21 01:54:23 PM  

LeroyBourne: I remember that classic George Carlin bit.  The one about one door will open once a year for a few seconds (iirc) so the creme de la creme will be released.


No his plan used 4 midwestern states.  One was for junkies, one was for crazies, one for violent criminals, one for rapists and molesters.  The fences between open once a year to let em mingle.
 
2014-05-21 01:54:33 PM  
2% of the population.

That's more than three times the size of your military, including civilians. It's also twice the number of all "Federal Government Employees" or whatever that is.

http://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/data-analysis-documentation /f ederal-employment-reports/historical-tables/total-government-employmen t-since-1962/

Put them to work.
 
2014-05-21 01:55:44 PM  

chachi88: monoski: mayIFark: I think it is more SAD than SCARY.

NPR had a feature on a guy who was tossed in jail for not paying his fine for fishing out of season. Remember a lot of people in prison are not violent.

Jail != Prison

/jussayin


I heard that (not doubting it), but somehow never bothered to look up the difference. May be I should?
 
2014-05-21 01:58:15 PM  

Tr0mBoNe: Put them to work.


Step 1: Ban Slavery of Black People
Step 2: Institute Forced Labor in Prisons
Step 3: Disproportionately Target Black People via Law Enforcement
Step 4: Profit!
 
2014-05-21 01:58:34 PM  

LeroyBourne: I remember that classic George Carlin bit.  The one about one door will open once a year for a few seconds (iirc) so the creme de la creme will be released.


AH here we go
 
2014-05-21 01:59:11 PM  
That's a lot of salad-tossing.
 
2014-05-21 01:59:57 PM  

Carn: LeroyBourne: I remember that classic George Carlin bit.  The one about one door will open once a year for a few seconds (iirc) so the creme de la creme will be released.

AH here we go


LOL.  Yep.  Thanks.
 
2014-05-21 02:01:40 PM  
You know, for how many people have their lives ruined by this terrible machine, I continue to be surprised at how few actually strike out in revenge.

For all of the fear-mongering that all of us are terrorists waiting to happen, every day without violence in this crumbling country just comes across as evidence that Rousseau was right and that people are basically good, or at least peaceful.
 
2014-05-21 02:01:43 PM  
So how many more hours until the Left is decrying the universities in America as a hotbed of rapity-rape-rape after claiming that the prisons are full of innocents?

/Hey let that person go who only robbed a convenience store at gunpoint and killed the owner.   There's an male engineering undergrad here who had sex with a willing but intoxicated female liberal arts major and he's the real threat.

//Remember poor people only commit crimes because Marx said so....and poverty...and there wouldn't be any crime if life was fair.   Wealthy people are all criminals by nature and  they drive their Bimmers like asshats too.
 
2014-05-21 02:02:53 PM  

UncleStumpy: Just confirms what I thought when I lived outside the USA. It's a crumbling racist shiathole. Why did I have to marry an American??? I'm stuck here for at least 7 years until her youngest turns 18

Ugh!!!



Would it be wrong for me to wish something would happen so you could leave earlier and go back to beautiful Alberta?
 
2014-05-21 02:06:45 PM  

Uncontrolled_Jibe: So how many more hours until the Left is decrying the universities in America as a hotbed of rapity-rape-rape after claiming that the prisons are full of innocents?

/Hey let that person go who only robbed a convenience store at gunpoint and killed the owner.   There's an male engineering undergrad here who had sex with a willing but intoxicated female liberal arts major and he's the real threat.

//Remember poor people only commit crimes because Marx said so....and poverty...and there wouldn't be any crime if life was fair.   Wealthy people are all criminals by nature and  they drive their Bimmers like asshats too.


i62.tinypic.com
 
2014-05-21 02:07:33 PM  

mayIFark: I think it is more SAD than SCARY.


You might find this scary, then. There are more people in prison and on parole/probation than there are people engaged in farming in the US. It's pretty close, but the last figures I saw put prison/probation/parole at 2 millon and farmers at 1.9 million.
 
2014-05-21 02:08:03 PM  
Old school plea bargain (1st time offender, taken by at least three of my friends)

Judge: "Young man, I've been looking at your record, your age and your situation. I am willing to give you a deal: I can sentence you to two years in the State Penititiary or I can let you sign up for the Military Service of your choice for a full hitch, which you must complete.  You and your attorney may leave here today, but I want you back here in Chambers at 9:00AM with your decision and your signed enlistment papers.

You are free to go."

/My lawn. Off of it.
 
2014-05-21 02:08:36 PM  
Thanks Nixon and Regan for this huge mess.
 
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