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(Time)   U.N. official says that junk food is just as bad as cigarettes. And twice as hard to keep lit   (time.com) divider line 21
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2014-05-21 12:37:00 PM  
Well I know how to solve the obesity crisis and world hunger: Eat Fatty!
 
2014-05-21 12:44:11 PM  
False. How I know you've never been camping:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlVM617pBns
 
2014-05-21 12:45:13 PM  
It's pretty hard to light a Twinkie, but damn, you could use a Slim Jim beef stick like a torch. The problem with that one isn't getting it lit, it's putting it out.
 
2014-05-21 12:48:28 PM  
There's certainly a case to be made that the "industry" here intentionally crafts their food to have addictive qualities at the expense of healthy qualities.  And not starting is easier than stopping.  And the consequences of indulging in the addiction are harmful to yourself.

Actually, I don't have a counter-argument to those.  That case is entirely reasonable.
 
2014-05-21 01:00:53 PM  
You can light a frenchfry, oh sorry, freedomfry, and it'll burn because of the oil. Kinda like a candle.
 
2014-05-21 01:11:58 PM  
Much more delicious though.
 
2014-05-21 01:37:47 PM  
The food industry is kind of its own worst enemy. They've been taunting the regulation monkey for decades.
 
2014-05-21 01:38:09 PM  

SmackLT: It's pretty hard to light a Twinkie, but damn, you could use a Slim Jim beef stick like a torch. The problem with that one isn't getting it lit, it's putting it out.



I use them for road flares.
 
2014-05-21 01:56:12 PM  
Your mom started it.  Eat this delicious apple pie she said....corporate tool...
 
2014-05-21 01:58:22 PM  
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The bright blue flame indicates this was a particularly sweet donut.
 
2014-05-21 02:02:31 PM  
I lucky in that I don't eat fast food except those rare moments when I'm on a road trip and starving.  I just don't like the stuff.
 
2014-05-21 02:29:48 PM  
You were warned! First you all got on the anti-smoking bandwagon, forced me to quit my delicious death sticks, the tables have turned... It wasnt enough.. now they are coming for your bacon.
 
2014-05-21 02:32:29 PM  

ToastTheRabbit: You were warned! First you all got on the anti-smoking bandwagon, forced me to quit my delicious death sticks, the tables have turned... It wasnt enough.. now they are coming for your bacon.


Bacon isn't "junk food".  It'd be a massive improvement if proteins and complex animal fats were the source of health issues.  No, we're talking about simple starch carbo-loaded foods(and beverages) that are intentionally designed to leave you feeling hungry after you consume them.
 
2014-05-21 02:32:46 PM  

ToastTheRabbit: You were warned! First you all got on the anti-smoking bandwagon, forced me to quit my delicious death sticks


You were smoking Slim Jims?
 
2014-05-21 02:45:39 PM  

ikanreed: There's certainly a case to be made that the "industry" here intentionally crafts their food to have addictive qualities at the expense of healthy qualities.  And not starting is easier than stopping.  And the consequences of indulging in the addiction are harmful to yourself.

Actually, I don't have a counter-argument to those.  That case is entirely reasonable.


The counter argument to that is that there is an essential difference between designing a product to appeal to an existing behavioral addictive urge and pedaling a product which introduces a chemical dependency. If you went all draconian in over regulation of the food industry to ensure that every item had a proper amount of nutrition, you would simply not remove from people the urge to eat badly, you would not stop them from eating badly (food, unlike cigarettes, is not hard to make, ya know), and if you had any sort of logical consistency in your regulation, it would outlaw half of the foods in existence. For no gain.

Basically:
1) the urge to eat poorly exists, with or without junk food
2) you have the ability to eat badly, no matter the regulation on junk food
3) it is possible to eat junk food responsibly and without any deleterious health effects
4) stop trying to nanny everyone, let people deal with their own choices. Help them if you want, but not by controlling them.
5) it is different than cigarettes because it does not introduce a new chemical dependency.

And actually a lot of other reasons.
 
2014-05-21 02:47:15 PM  

heimdalliii: ikanreed: There's certainly a case to be made that the "industry" here intentionally crafts their food to have addictive qualities at the expense of healthy qualities.  And not starting is easier than stopping.  And the consequences of indulging in the addiction are harmful to yourself.

Actually, I don't have a counter-argument to those.  That case is entirely reasonable.

The counter argument to that is that there is an essential difference between designing a product to appeal to an existing behavioral addictive urge and pedaling a product which introduces a chemical dependency. If you went all draconian in over regulation of the food industry to ensure that every item had a proper amount of nutrition, you would simply not remove from people the urge to eat badly, you would not stop them from eating badly (food, unlike cigarettes, is not hard to make, ya know), and if you had any sort of logical consistency in your regulation, it would outlaw half of the foods in existence. For no gain.

Basically:
1) the urge to eat poorly exists, with or without junk food
2) you have the ability to eat badly, no matter the regulation on junk food
3) it is possible to eat junk food responsibly and without any deleterious health effects
4) stop trying to nanny everyone, let people deal with their own choices. Help them if you want, but not by controlling them.
5) it is different than cigarettes because it does not introduce a new chemical dependency.

And actually a lot of other reasons.


The difference between naturally produced endorphine surges and articial ones is basically nil.  It's why weed is addictive.
 
2014-05-21 02:48:29 PM  

ikanreed: ToastTheRabbit: You were warned! First you all got on the anti-smoking bandwagon, forced me to quit my delicious death sticks, the tables have turned... It wasnt enough.. now they are coming for your bacon.

Bacon isn't "junk food".  It'd be a massive improvement if proteins and complex animal fats were the source of health issues.  No, we're talking about simple starch carbo-loaded foods(and beverages) that are intentionally designed to leave you feeling hungry after you consume them.


So, the government needs to step in and tell me to put the sandwich down. Because people lack self control. they cant just fat themselves out of existence?
 
2014-05-21 02:55:47 PM  

ToastTheRabbit: So, the government needs to step in and tell me to put the sandwich down. Because people lack self control. they cant just fat themselves out of existence?


Do you acknowledge the following statement to be true: Y/N
"Some companies in the food industry intentionally design their foods to promote addictive behavior"

Because if you're saying "no" to that, we're having a different argument than if you're saying "yes, but"
 
2014-05-21 06:36:14 PM  
I would almost want to vote for this... not because I agree with it at all, but just to flip a big middle finger in the faces of everyone who said "smoking bans aren't the first step down a slipperly slope."

/ half sarcasm
// likes freedom
/// also likes slashies
 
2014-05-21 06:36:53 PM  

Neo Geek: I would almost want to vote for this... not because I agree with it at all, but just to flip a big middle finger in the faces of everyone who said "smoking bans aren't the first step down a slipperly slope."

/ half sarcasm
// likes freedom
/// also likes slashies


Vote for fast food taxes / bans I mean... stupid drunk brain...
 
2014-05-22 02:22:37 AM  
Funny you should say that...I like my meat smoked...
 
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