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(Global Post)   LA passes law allowing for bi-lingual road signs. These gol-durn Hispanics why can't they learn to speak English like all the other immigrant groups before them ..wait, the signs are in English and FRENCH? And the Cajuns have been there HOW long?   (globalpost.com) divider line 73
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2014-05-20 12:19:29 PM  
The same god damned argument could be made in Maine, California, Arizona, New Mexico, Texas, Colorado and other states, submitter. I know that German is still spoken in Pennsylvania, too.
 
2014-05-20 12:43:40 PM  

Nadie_AZ: The same god damned argument could be made in Maine, California, Arizona, New Mexico, Texas, Colorado and other states, submitter. I know that German is still spoken in Pennsylvania, too.


Which was actually my point with the headline.  I am SO tired of idiots who claim that Hispanic immigrants are "different" because unlike all previous immigrant groups "they don't assimilate and learn english"

which is a patent lie.  I used to live in Chicago and there were parts of town where the majority of the local signage was in Chinese Vietnamese, Urdu, Polish, Cyrillic,  etc.  You were as likely to see a "mówimy po polsku "  sign in my neighborhood as you were a "Si habla Espanol" at banks and etc
 
2014-05-20 01:18:13 PM  

Magorn: Nadie_AZ: The same god damned argument could be made in Maine, California, Arizona, New Mexico, Texas, Colorado and other states, submitter. I know that German is still spoken in Pennsylvania, too.

Which was actually my point with the headline.  I am SO tired of idiots who claim that Hispanic immigrants are "different" because unlike all previous immigrant groups "they don't assimilate and learn english"

which is a patent lie.


Uh oh, expect to be sued by Apple and Samsung.

/Method of visually representing information in alternate languages in stationary non-electronic format.
 
2014-05-20 01:46:34 PM  
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2014-05-20 01:46:53 PM  
If they accommodate one race/language, they should be required to accommodate everyone. I demand Chinese road signs.
 
2014-05-20 01:47:15 PM  
We kind of covered this in the third-most-spoken-language-by-state thread.
 
2014-05-20 01:47:38 PM  
Know what's written on the stop signs in France?

"STOP"

/Doesn't have a point
 
2014-05-20 01:48:08 PM  
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2014-05-20 01:49:27 PM  
At first I was thinking, "L.A. is going to have signs in French? WTF?" then remembered that "LA" also stands for "Louisiana." We really need to give those two places separate abbreviations, for tards like me.
 
2014-05-20 01:51:27 PM  
The people who get most upset about bilingualism are usually the people who can't even speak their native tongue fluently.
 
2014-05-20 01:51:29 PM  
This is a good idea. I've heard that younger Cajuns are not speaking as much Cajun French as previous generations. It would be a shame to lose that.
 
2014-05-20 01:51:47 PM  
Signs on provincial roads and highways in Ontario are bilingual (English and French). Thank God signs say both 'Exit' and 'Sortie' otherwise the Francophone population would never know when to get off the highway and would be driving on until their gas ran out.

Signs in Quebec are French-only. That's why I can't drive there because I don't know what I'm supposed to do when I come to a red octagon that says 'Arret.' I just drive straight through.
 
2014-05-20 01:52:09 PM  
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English motherfarker!
 
2014-05-20 01:52:43 PM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: The people who get most upset about bilingualism are usually the people who can't even speak their native tongue fluently.


I can to!!
 
2014-05-20 01:53:27 PM  
Ever been to Wales, subby?
 
2014-05-20 01:54:37 PM  
Bet Jindal vetoes law because it is French, and not Spanish...Jindal supports Amnesty for illegals
 
2014-05-20 01:55:54 PM  

menschenfresser: At first I was thinking, "L.A. is going to have signs in French? WTF?" then remembered that "LA" also stands for "Louisiana." We really need to give those two places separate abbreviations, for tards like me.


You're not alone.
 
2014-05-20 01:55:59 PM  
As a life-long resident of Acadiana, I...don't know how to feel about this. My paternal grandparents spoke French (either the Cajun or Creole variety--family history on that is sketchy). Having bilingual road signage might be a boon to local cultural morale, but there aren't that many speakers anymore, especially among the younger generations.

On the other hand, at least Mr Ortego didn't submit a bill to have road signage in English and Vietnamese. I am of the opinion that if you're going to move to a location that speaks predominantly English, then you could at least make an effort to learn the language. Instead, you have people in the shops and restaurants who came here to work on shrimp and crab boats who just point at what they want and hand over a wad of money, expecting a cashier or waiter or what-have-you to inherently know what they want.

/Not xenophobic
//Just tired of people not even making an effort
///Especially people who actually know English but refuse to speak or communicate
////And don't get me started about people who demand help with a mobile phone glued to their ear
 
2014-05-20 01:56:10 PM  
Yeah, learn english Hispanics, it's not like Hispanics founded the city of LA. You too cajuns, it's not like your french ancestors created the settlement that became Louisiana. Sorry Natives, red people don't count when it comes to being somewhere first, it's why NASA never sends native americans places first.
 
2014-05-20 01:56:47 PM  
"For English press one. Para Español, marca el número dos."
 
2014-05-20 01:57:01 PM  
Part of passing a driving test in Arizona is identifying signs by shape, color, and image. Colors/shapes don't change based on language. Waste of money.

Oh wait... a lot of illegal immigrants don't bother with the whole legal drivers license thing.
 
2014-05-20 01:57:08 PM  

Nadie_AZ: The same god damned argument could be made in Maine



For anyone who doesn't know the Maine connection:

"Acadia (French: Acadie) was a colony of New France in northeastern North America that included parts of eastern Quebec, the Maritime provinces, and modern-day Maine to the Kennebec River.

People living in Acadia, and sometimes former residents and their descendants, are called Acadians, also later known as Cajuns after resettlement in Louisiana."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acadia
 
2014-05-20 01:59:36 PM  

Rurouni: If they accommodate one race/language, they should be required to accommodate everyone. I demand Chinese road signs.


Vancouver thinks you're late to the party
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2014-05-20 01:59:53 PM  

flemardo: Yeah, learn english Hispanics, it's not like Hispanics founded the city of LA. You too cajuns, it's not like your french ancestors created the settlement that became Louisiana. Sorry Natives, red people don't count when it comes to being somewhere first, it's why NASA never sends native americans places first.


Ok, I know you're being sarcastic, but just so that everyone else knows this: The vast majority of Cajuns actually speak and write English as our first language. Some of us may not do it as well as others, but by and large French of any variety is disappearing quickly.
 
2014-05-20 02:00:28 PM  

menschenfresser: At first I was thinking, "L.A. is going to have signs in French? WTF?" then remembered that "LA" also stands for "Louisiana." We really need to give those two places separate abbreviations, for tards like me.


You're not the only one with this problem.  I feel there are somewhat mitigating circumstances, since I live in Los Angeles, but still.
 
2014-05-20 02:02:18 PM  

menschenfresser: At first I was thinking, "L.A. is going to have signs in French? WTF?" then remembered that "LA" also stands for "Louisiana." We really need to give those two places separate abbreviations, for tards like me.


Here's my favorite example of this sort of thing.  If you are flying to Ontario, CA, you could be going to:

A. Somewhere in the Canadian province north of Michigan and Wisconsin.

or

B. The international airport in the city of Ontario, California, 35 miles east of downtown Los Angeles.
 
2014-05-20 02:02:25 PM  

Nabb1: This is a good idea. I've heard that younger Cajuns are not speaking as much Cajun French as previous generations. It would be a shame to lose that.


That's got a lot to do with the fact that the good old boys filling the jobs in the traditional "Cajun" ecosystem: gator hunters, shrimpers and catfishers and these days just as likely to have a last name like Nguyen instead of Delahomme or Tolliver.  It's absolutely amazing how quickly the culture of the Vietnamese boat people who came over as refugee in the 70's has merged almost seamlessly with that of Mississippi Delta folk
 
2014-05-20 02:03:09 PM  
Also, in the neighborhood of LA I live in, we should probably have tri-lingual signs, at least.  English, Spanish, and Korean.
 
2014-05-20 02:04:04 PM  
The only issue I have with bilingual road signs of any language is that on ones posting lane information/exits/street names/etc there isn't a whole lot of real estate available to begin with, and if they accomplish this by making all the text smaller then that doesn't benefit anyone.
 
2014-05-20 02:04:17 PM  

Lady Beryl Ersatz-Wendigo: Ever been to Wales, subby?


English got a lot of balls invading a place and then calling the people who were there before them "Welas"  which was Anglo-Saxon for "foreigner", so in that case I don;t think it's the Welsh who need to "assimilate"
 
2014-05-20 02:05:39 PM  
Years ago they started doing flashing yellow arrows to indicate unprotected left turns. This required signage saying "left turn yield when flashing". The first time I remembered seeing that signage was in a part of town where English was third place.
 
2014-05-20 02:06:12 PM  
i didn't know there were Frenchies in Los Angeles
 
2014-05-20 02:09:34 PM  
Have those all over Vermont here.
No biggie.
It's Red and it's an Octagon.
freaking stop.
I dont' care if it says Taco Kisses.
 
2014-05-20 02:11:17 PM  
My wife and I vacation to New Orleans once a year or so. I was, at one point in my life years ago, reasonably fluent in French. I now can get by with it in an emergency (having not spoken it regularly in over ten years).

Anyway, it's always surprising how many French tourists there are in New Orleans. A lot of the tours are offered in both English and French, the tourist offices have French-speaking staff...

So, if they rent a car, maybe it's okay to have French-language signs there. :)
 
2014-05-20 02:14:33 PM  
Maybe the government needs to offer free Rosetta Stone: English to these people and keep our signs in English. That way there's no excuse for these immigrants not to read and understand basic English.
 
2014-05-20 02:17:14 PM  

Mr. Oizo: Signs on provincial roads and highways in Ontario are bilingual (English and French). Thank God signs say both 'Exit' and 'Sortie' otherwise the Francophone population would never know when to get off the highway and would be driving on until their gas ran out.

Signs in Quebec are French-only. That's why I can't drive there because I don't know what I'm supposed to do when I come to a red octagon that says 'Arret.' I just drive straight through.


I like what happened when a drinks company decided to print a random English word followed by a random French word in their bottle caps as part of a well thought out promotional scheme in Canada.
i.huffpost.com
Maybe they should have left out the English and gone with only random French words.
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2014-05-20 02:17:35 PM  
Dammit, this sort of thing shouldn't exist. I only want to see English on the signs telling me I'm approaching the intersection of Zarzamora and Nogalitos.

//OK, I realize San Antonio is atypical.
 
2014-05-20 02:17:58 PM  

Dirty J1: Maybe the government needs to offer free Rosetta Stone:

I hope uncle martin here doesn't notice that I pissed my farkin pants.

 
2014-05-20 02:18:04 PM  

Lady Beryl Ersatz-Wendigo: Ever been to Wales, subby?


I imagine the signs are full of L's.
 
2014-05-20 02:25:19 PM  

maram500: flemardo: Yeah, learn english Hispanics, it's not like Hispanics founded the city of LA. You too cajuns, it's not like your french ancestors created the settlement that became Louisiana. Sorry Natives, red people don't count when it comes to being somewhere first, it's why NASA never sends native americans places first.

Ok, I know you're being sarcastic, but just so that everyone else knows this: The vast majority of Cajuns actually speak and write English as our first language. Some of us may not do it as well as others, but by and large French of any variety is disappearing quickly.


Sent the monsters to a French-immersion school (because they're all boys and I remember the '60s, shaddup) so they could hide in Canada (I said I remember the '60s, didn't I?) and have been pointing out the worldwide job possibilities ever since.

Strange to find this sort of thing close to home, but isn't it past time this occurred?

/Still waiting for us to switch over to the metric system like they'd told us when we were little....
 
2014-05-20 02:29:53 PM  

maram500: flemardo: Yeah, learn english Hispanics, it's not like Hispanics founded the city of LA. You too cajuns, it's not like your french ancestors created the settlement that became Louisiana. Sorry Natives, red people don't count when it comes to being somewhere first, it's why NASA never sends native americans places first.

Ok, I know you're being sarcastic, but just so that everyone else knows this: The vast majority of Cajuns actually speak and write English as our first language. Some of us may not do it as well as others, but by and large French of any variety is disappearing quickly.


Tu a raison malhereusment.

/ sorry, phone French
 
2014-05-20 02:35:30 PM  

mama2tnt: maram500: flemardo: Yeah, learn english Hispanics, it's not like Hispanics founded the city of LA. You too cajuns, it's not like your french ancestors created the settlement that became Louisiana. Sorry Natives, red people don't count when it comes to being somewhere first, it's why NASA never sends native americans places first.

Ok, I know you're being sarcastic, but just so that everyone else knows this: The vast majority of Cajuns actually speak and write English as our first language. Some of us may not do it as well as others, but by and large French of any variety is disappearing quickly.

Sent the monsters to a French-immersion school (because they're all boys and I remember the '60s, shaddup) so they could hide in Canada (I said I remember the '60s, didn't I?) and have been pointing out the worldwide job possibilities ever since.

Strange to find this sort of thing close to home, but isn't it past time this occurred?

/Still waiting for us to switch over to the metric system like they'd told us when we were little....


well, this is more to preserve a dying language.  cajun french is a little old in form to communicate with modern french speakers.  while the cajun can understand, the other french person may have a difficult time understanding the cajun.

/ i speak french, and when i hear cajun french, i think, wtf?  i can muddle through a conversation, but it's different.
 
2014-05-20 02:36:51 PM  

Osomatic: Also, in the neighborhood of LA I live in, we should probably have tri-lingual signs, at least.  English, Spanish, and Korean.


We must be neighbors, and reading your profile I am not sure you're not me. Weird parallel life experiences.

/can't read 75% of the signs in my neighborhood
 
2014-05-20 02:40:25 PM  

Lady Beryl Ersatz-Wendigo: Ever been to Wales, subby?


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For a Welsh scrabble game, the boards are 10 feet square and the 'L' tile is only worth 1 point
 
2014-05-20 02:44:36 PM  
What is this, Canada?
 
2014-05-20 03:00:30 PM  
Are they under the impression that the swamp gargling the Cajuns do is French?

Even the Quebecois can't understand that crap.
 
2014-05-20 03:15:40 PM  
My personal favorite alternate language road sigh is the Quebecois version of this sign;

www.xn--icne-wqa.com

I can't find a picture but basically replace the image with the word 'Travaux' (work) so they took an internationally recognized symbol and replaced it with french word.  That's just being a dick.
 
2014-05-20 03:15:40 PM  

johnny queso: Osomatic: Also, in the neighborhood of LA I live in, we should probably have tri-lingual signs, at least.  English, Spanish, and Korean.

We must be neighbors, and reading your profile I am not sure you're not me. Weird parallel life experiences.

/can't read 75% of the signs in my neighborhood


Come to think of it, I'm not sure I can empirically prove I'm not you.  Man, my family is going to be pissed when I explain to them that I - that we - have been fooling them this entire time.

Anyway, uh, we probably are neighbors, ish.  I'm near Beverly & Larchmont.  Not in the super-rich part, but still a nice neighborhood.
 
2014-05-20 03:19:10 PM  
I'm fairly decent with languages, but I see things like this as slippery slopes.
 
2014-05-20 03:29:34 PM  

Resident Muslim: I'm fairly decent with languages, but I see things like this as slippery slopes.


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It does seem to be an employment opportunity for sign painters.
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