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2014-05-20 11:18:40 AM  
It's so cute when Ben Shapiro stumbles and falls like this.  Like a baby trying to walk for the first time.

Don't worry, Ben!  You'll be derping like a grownup Breitbart hack in no time!
 
2014-05-20 11:19:41 AM  
In typically passive-aggressive fashion, Clinton stated in a debate with Dole, "I can only tell you that I don't [think] Senator Dole is too old to be President, but it's the age of his ideas that I question."

Don't even pretend like that's not a great line.
 
2014-05-20 11:29:01 AM  
I wonder what it's like to have an entire political party attack you for 22 years.
 
2014-05-20 11:33:26 AM  

James!: I wonder what it's like to have an entire political party attack you for 22 years.


I would assume it would be like living in a major urban area and seeing the same homeless guy begging for money every day: first you're sad, then you're mad, then you ignore it and it becomes background.
 
2014-05-20 11:44:22 AM  
But we're supposed to ignore her complete absence during the most critical period of her tenure as Secretary of State.

Benghazi: The Most Critical Period of her tenure as Secretary of State.  OK.  Sure.  Whatever.
 
2014-05-20 11:49:54 AM  
ah here it is

the worst farking thing i will read all day outside of politics tab comments
 
2014-05-20 11:51:25 AM  
not clicking deadmoron.com, is the cliff notes something like, 1: Herp, 2: Derp, 3: Herp-a-Derp, 4: Whargarbl, 5: Benghazi?
 
2014-05-20 11:52:43 AM  

Sybarite: In typically passive-aggressive fashion, Clinton stated in a debate with Dole, "I can only tell you that I don't [think] Senator Dole is too old to be President, but it's the age of his ideas that I question."

Don't even pretend like that's not a great line.


Hell, it applies to most of the Senate and a good portion of the House, and the at least 5 of the Supreme Court Justices!
 
2014-05-20 11:53:21 AM  
I would probably label those irrelevant before I'd got with inappropriate.

Strangely though, the one reason I wouldn't want Hilary to be president (she'll be a pro-Wall St. whore) is probably the reason that Brietbart's zombie website should want her in charge.  She'd likely be a fairly moderate Republican if she gets in.
 
2014-05-20 11:56:48 AM  

Mercutio74: I would probably label those irrelevant before I'd got with inappropriate.

Strangely though, the one reason I wouldn't want Hilary to be president (she'll be a pro-Wall St. whore) is probably the reason that Brietbart's zombie website should want her in charge.  She'd likely be a fairly moderate Republican if she gets in.


An Obama Democrat, if you will.
 
2014-05-20 11:59:33 AM  

Mercutio74: She'd likely be a fairly moderate Republican if she gets in.


A former Goldwater girl? You don't say.
 
2014-05-20 11:59:46 AM  

qorkfiend: An Obama Democrat, if you will.


I get the feeling she'll go less out of her way to pay lip service to the middle class though.  She's not afraid to be seen in public with Wall St. types.
 
2014-05-20 12:00:01 PM  

Mercutio74: (she'll be a pro-Wall St. whore)


True, and amusingly apt, given who her daughter is married to.
 
2014-05-20 12:03:27 PM  

ManateeGag: not clicking deadmoron.com, is the cliff notes something like, 1: Herp, 2: Derp, 3: Herp-a-Derp, 4: Whargarbl, 5: Benghazi?


You missed Blarg Blarg Blarg Honk. But otherwise, spot on.
 
2014-05-20 12:06:21 PM  
img.fark.net
 
2014-05-20 12:08:17 PM  

Mercutio74: qorkfiend: An Obama Democrat, if you will.

I get the feeling she'll go less out of her way to pay lip service to the middle class though.  She's not afraid to be seen in public with Wall St. types.


I remember how Bill Clinton was explaining how sorry he was that he cut corporate tax rates so much when campaigning for Obama.
 
2014-05-20 12:09:55 PM  

Jackson Herring: ah here it is

the worst farking thing i will read all day outside of politics tab comments


I concur.

msg-ctrl.com
 
2014-05-20 12:15:01 PM  
Can we all get over appeals to hypocrisy?  They are a fallacy.  Say a particular politician came out against eating lead paint.  When in private, particular politician loved the sweet taste of transitions metals and regularly had lead paint smoothees after the gym, and sometimes mixed a little into his gold bond to help dry out his bonch.

But eat lead paint is still bad!  Particular politician could live his whole life passing legislation against paint eating and still be right the whole time.  His personal failings have no bearing the deliciousness and/or poisoneness of lead paint.
 
2014-05-20 12:19:55 PM  

JavierLobo: Can we all get over appeals to hypocrisy?  They are a fallacy.  Say a particular politician came out against eating lead paint.  When in private, particular politician loved the sweet taste of transitions metals and regularly had lead paint smoothees after the gym, and sometimes mixed a little into his gold bond to help dry out his bonch.

But eat lead paint is still bad!  Particular politician could live his whole life passing legislation against paint eating and still be right the whole time.  His personal failings have no bearing the deliciousness and/or poisoneness of lead paint.


On the other hand, that might be a clue to reasonably suspicious voters that he might not actually take reasonable action on the paint popsicle industry, and is only pandering.
 
2014-05-20 12:26:42 PM  

JavierLobo: Can we all get over appeals to hypocrisy?  They are a fallacy.  Say a particular politician came out against eating lead paint.  When in private, particular politician loved the sweet taste of transitions metals and regularly had lead paint smoothees after the gym, and sometimes mixed a little into his gold bond to help dry out his bonch.

But eat lead paint is still bad!  Particular politician could live his whole life passing legislation against paint eating and still be right the whole time.  His personal failings have no bearing the deliciousness and/or poisoneness of lead paint.


Nice try, Lao Che. Mercury is the sweetest of the transition metals.
 
2014-05-20 12:26:49 PM  
Ha. I've been posting on Breitbart all morning. The daily Benghazi Outrage article. Poking holes in the 'scandal' one post at a time. It gets to maximum derp levels when I bring up the GWB wars and his intelligence failures/lies that resulted in 9-11 and the unwarranted wars. Didn't even need to mention St. Ronnie and Beirut today. I must be getting good....

I might need an intervention. Posting there is fun! Addictive even. It's good practice too because it makes the trolls here seem rather tame and easy to pick apart. I'm seeing it as part performance art, part therapeutic release. I do worry about the longterm effects of so much exposure to brain rot though. That's why I came over to Fark, only to be bought right back into Breitbart land. Thanks Obama!
 
2014-05-20 12:28:18 PM  

Mercutio74: She'd likely be a fairly moderate Republican if she gets in.


Why do people keep saying things like this when it is obviously not true?  He political positions are about as "Generic Democrat" as is physically possible.
 
2014-05-20 12:30:01 PM  
In the aftermath of the attacks, she sent out uninvolved UN ambassador Susan Rice to take the hits on the Sunday shows

That's odd,  I thought Susan Rice was the worst person in the world.
 
2014-05-20 12:33:52 PM  

BSABSVR: That's odd, I thought Susan Rice was the worst person in the world.


That's before she resigned.  Once she resigned, it instantly became clear that she was a scapegoat manipulated by those more powerful.  If she was in on the decision making, then obviously the administration would be protecting her.
 
2014-05-20 12:36:59 PM  
5 'Inappropriate' Arguments Against Hillary She Used on Opponents

"Ignoring, of course, the fact that Bill Clinton had no problem attacking Bob Dole's age in 1996."

Way to fail right out of the gate.
 
2014-05-20 12:38:45 PM  

James!: I wonder what it's like to have an entire political party attack you for 22 years.


I dunno, but it's pretty much the standard for US politics, and has been for 300+ years.

// For those of you keeping score, yes, I'm pointing out that it was this bad (albeit in cycles) going all the way back to before we broke off from the British empire.
 
2014-05-20 12:39:15 PM  
Whenever I see a listicle composed of 5 items, I just assume it was written by John Hawkins.
 
2014-05-20 12:47:35 PM  

kronicfeld: 5 'Inappropriate' Arguments Against Hillary She Used on Opponents

"Ignoring, of course, the fact that Bill Clinton had no problem attacking Bob Dole's age in 1996."

Way to fail right out of the gate.


"We are the President." - Hillary Clinton

Quoted in Blood Sport: The President and His Adversaries
 
2014-05-20 12:49:47 PM  
The premise of the article is that Hillary is a hypocrite because purportedly she's used arguments against her opponents that Hillary and other progressives have defended Hillary against when Republicans used similar attacks on Hillary. The article omits all mention of any conservative defenses against Hillary's arguments; clearly there were none, meaning that conservatives are not hypocrites.

1: Herp.

Hillary "underwent brain damage" recently, argues the author. And when conservatives spoke of her "under[going] brain damage," Hillary and her supporters defended by noting inconsistent conservative arguments on the one hand that Hillary faked the injury for sympathy, and on the other hand that now the injury she faked has apparently rendered her functionally retarded.

Hillary and all liberals and the MSN mainstream nedia are all hypocrites because in 1996, Bill Clinton said of Bob Dole, "I can only tell you that I don't believe Senator Dole is too old to be President, but it's the age of his ideas that I question." Bill Clinton's choice to expressly decline to make Dole's age an issue precludes on principle Hillary and all liberals from ever making any argument defending Hillary's age and health.


2: Derp.--Benghazi

They couldn't wait for number 5 for Benghazi. It came in at number 2.

Liberals have argued that Hillary has answered all relevant questions about Benghazi, and urged that conservatives shut their damn pieholes about it. Or to go ahead and keep yammering about it since nobody cares but your idiot base.

Anyway, because Hillary in 2002 publicly observed that President Bush had, contrary to Bush White House talking points, advance warning of 9/11, she is therefore a hypocrite for failing to pay rent on and move into a chair and table in the capitol building to answer redundant Bengazi questions for the rest of eternity.

3: Herp-a-Derp.

Hillary is a hypocrite because conservatives say she's never accomplished anything, even though she called Obama "untested" and "inexperienced" in the 2008 primary contest.

4: Whaarrgarble. Benghazi part 2:

UN ambassador Susan Rice publicly answered questions about Benghazi on Sunday talk shows. But Hillary didn't. Hillary is a hypocrite because in 2008, she made the famous "3 a.m. phone call" ad, which insinuated Barack Obama was inexperienced.

5: Benghazi.

Hillary and her supporters have argued that Benghazi and Hillary's private life should remain private. Yet Hillary and her supporters have Benghazied  Hillary when other people have Benghazied their private lives public. She is a hypocrite Benghazi Benghazi Benghazi.
 
2014-05-20 01:06:29 PM  

Geotpf: Mercutio74: She'd likely be a fairly moderate Republican if she gets in.

Why do people keep saying things like this when it is obviously not true?  He political positions are about as "Generic Democrat" as is physically possible.


Hmmm. Her positions might be "generic Democrat political establishment", but they are well to the right of the average Democratic voter/supporter, and well to the right of where the democratic party was before, say Bill Clinton "triangulated".

The reality of politics in the USA is that the Republican party turned hard right, and the Democratic party naturally occupied the center ground that the Republicans had ceded in order to maximize their own opportunity, because they know full well that voters on the Left have nowhere else to go. Political parties -- as opposed to individual politicians -- in a system like ours inevitably become about maximizing electability, not pursuit of any particular principle.

Meanwhile, voters on the whole have not changed much (if anything they have become more leftist on social issues as old bigots die and are replaced by younger voters). Normally, in a functioning democracy, major parties inevitably gravitate to the center, but for reasons too long for a Fark post, the US system has become dysfunctional.
 
2014-05-20 01:36:55 PM  

czetie: Geotpf: Mercutio74: She'd likely be a fairly moderate Republican if she gets in.

Why do people keep saying things like this when it is obviously not true?  He political positions are about as "Generic Democrat" as is physically possible.

Hmmm. Her positions might be "generic Democrat political establishment", but they are well to the right of the average Democratic voter/supporter, and well to the right of where the democratic party was before, say Bill Clinton "triangulated".

The reality of politics in the USA is that the Republican party turned hard right, and the Democratic party naturally occupied the center ground that the Republicans had ceded in order to maximize their own opportunity, because they know full well that voters on the Left have nowhere else to go. Political parties -- as opposed to individual politicians -- in a system like ours inevitably become about maximizing electability, not pursuit of any particular principle.

Meanwhile, voters on the whole have not changed much (if anything they have become more leftist on social issues as old bigots die and are replaced by younger voters). Normally, in a functioning democracy, major parties inevitably gravitate to the center, but for reasons too long for a Fark post, the US system has become dysfunctional.


How hard is it to say Fox News and Gerrymandering?

I don't think that's too long for a Fark Post.
 
2014-05-20 01:45:48 PM  

ikanreed: BSABSVR: That's odd, I thought Susan Rice was the worst person in the world.

That's before she resigned.  Once she resigned, it instantly became clear that she was a scapegoat manipulated by those more powerful.  If she was in on the decision making, then obviously the administration would be protecting her.


I would tell that theory to any psychologist. You'll be in looney bin whites faster than you can say Benghazi.
 
2014-05-20 01:46:54 PM  

Geotpf: Mercutio74: She'd likely be a fairly moderate Republican if she gets in.

Why do people keep saying things like this when it is obviously not true?  He political positions are about as "Generic Democrat" as is physically possible.


It's the fault of the media.  Lazy ass press has confused conservative with GOP and liberal with Democrat for so long that everyone else lapses into it as well.

If you switch "moderate Republican" for "conservative leaning moderate," everything falls into place.  See the problem?
 
2014-05-20 01:49:16 PM  

JavierLobo: Can we all get over appeals to hypocrisy?  They are a fallacy.  Say a particular politician came out against eating lead paint.  When in private, particular politician loved the sweet taste of transitions metals and regularly had lead paint smoothees after the gym, and sometimes mixed a little into his gold bond to help dry out his bonch.

But eat lead paint is still bad!  Particular politician could live his whole life passing legislation against paint eating and still be right the whole time.  His personal failings have no bearing the deliciousness and/or poisoneness of lead paint.


Personal hypocrisy is distasteful.  "Do as I say, not as I do."  And while it is true that technically it's a fallacy, there is someone who intends to legislate for others what they refuse to comply with in private.

But what is even worse is when they accuse other legislators of being guilty of things they themselves are.

Logic is logic.  But sometimes logic doesn't speak to things like credibility.
 
2014-05-20 02:13:31 PM  

Emposter: Geotpf: Mercutio74: She'd likely be a fairly moderate Republican if she gets in.

Why do people keep saying things like this when it is obviously not true?  He political positions are about as "Generic Democrat" as is physically possible.

It's the fault of the media.  Lazy ass press has confused conservative with GOP and liberal with Democrat for so long that everyone else lapses into it as well.

If you switch "moderate Republican" for "conservative leaning moderate," everything falls into place.  See the problem?


The other day I was listening to an Indian journalist day it was a double standard to refer to the majority party as Hindu nationalist while not referring to Republicans as Christian nationalist. It was a pretty compelling point. They should definitely start. For fairness.
 
2014-05-20 02:16:03 PM  

Weigard: JavierLobo: Can we all get over appeals to hypocrisy?  They are a fallacy.  Say a particular politician came out against eating lead paint.  When in private, particular politician loved the sweet taste of transitions metals and regularly had lead paint smoothees after the gym, and sometimes mixed a little into his gold bond to help dry out his bonch.

But eat lead paint is still bad!  Particular politician could live his whole life passing legislation against paint eating and still be right the whole time.  His personal failings have no bearing the deliciousness and/or poisoneness of lead paint.

Nice try, Lao Che. Mercury is the sweetest of the transition metals.


Well, that and Lead is a p-block element, not a transition metal.
 
2014-05-20 02:31:40 PM  
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2014-05-20 02:33:04 PM  

czetie: Geotpf: Mercutio74: She'd likely be a fairly moderate Republican if she gets in.

Why do people keep saying things like this when it is obviously not true?  He political positions are about as "Generic Democrat" as is physically possible.

Hmmm. Her positions might be "generic Democrat political establishment", but they are well to the right of the average Democratic voter/supporter, and well to the right of where the democratic party was before, say Bill Clinton "triangulated".


Bull.  The average Democratic voter is much, much,  much more conservative than the average Fark poster or what the average Fark poster believes them to be.

Proof:

img.fark.net

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2014/05/06/cnn-2016-poll-bush-a nd -paul-tied-for-top-spot-in-crowded-gop-field/

Yes, 19% of Democrats want a more conservative Democrat than Hillary for President while only 13% want a more liberal one.
 
2014-05-20 02:36:50 PM  
Headline: 5 'INAPPROPRIATE' ARGUMENTS AGAINST HILLARY SHE USED ON OPPONENTS

First example:

Bill Clinton had no problem attacking Bob Dole's age in 1996. In typically passive-aggressive fashion, Clinton stated in a debate with Dole, "I can only tell you that I don't Senator Dole is too old to be President, but it's the age of his ideas that I question."

Bill is not Hillary.

And that's when I decided not to waste my time on this chucklefark's idiotic article.
 
2014-05-20 02:39:30 PM  

Geotpf: czetie: Geotpf: Mercutio74: She'd likely be a fairly moderate Republican if she gets in.

Why do people keep saying things like this when it is obviously not true?  He political positions are about as "Generic Democrat" as is physically possible.

Hmmm. Her positions might be "generic Democrat political establishment", but they are well to the right of the average Democratic voter/supporter, and well to the right of where the democratic party was before, say Bill Clinton "triangulated".

Bull.  The average Democratic voter is much, much,  much more conservative than the average Fark poster or what the average Fark poster believes them to be.

Proof:

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http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2014/05/06/cnn-2016-poll-bush-a nd -paul-tied-for-top-spot-in-crowded-gop-field/

Yes, 19% of Democrats want a more conservative Democrat than Hillary for President while only 13% want a more liberal one.


According to the GOP, Fidel Castro is more conservative than Hillary Clinton.
 
2014-05-20 02:45:13 PM  

machodonkeywrestler: I would tell that theory to any psychologist. You'll be in looney bin whites faster than you can say Benghazi.


Sarcasm not available in all regions.
 
2014-05-20 03:19:05 PM  

JavierLobo: Can we all get over appeals to hypocrisy?  They are a fallacy.  Say a particular politician came out against eating lead paint.  When in private, particular politician loved the sweet taste of transitions metals and regularly had lead paint smoothees after the gym, and sometimes mixed a little into his gold bond to help dry out his bonch.

But eat lead paint is still bad!  Particular politician could live his whole life passing legislation against paint eating and still be right the whole time.  His personal failings have no bearing the deliciousness and/or poisoneness of lead paint.


On the other hand, the particular politician spends his who life trying to pass anti-miscegenation laws. In the meantime, this man has a long-time mistress of another race and a mixed race child that he refuses to acknowledge from that relationship.

Sometimes the appeal to hypocrisy makes sense because people pretend things that are not bad at all are actually some sort of great evil.

For example: the recent politician who is running on an anti-gay platform who is actually a former drag queen.

Not an example: Michelle Bachmann who is anti-gay and has a husband who seems gayer than a tree full of monkeys on nitrous oxide. Michelle is not hypocritical because she really believes that accepting gays will destroy families, starting with her own. No, she is not hypocritical. She is just wrong and selfish.
 
2014-05-20 03:21:27 PM  

GoodDoctorB: Jackson Herring: ah here it is

the worst farking thing i will read all day outside of politics tab comments

I concur.

[msg-ctrl.com image 300x236]


I tried, but...

from the first one on a list of things done to Hillary that she did to others is 'a thing done to Hillary' that 'Her husband did to somebody else".

If you can't even follow your premise with the first item, then what are you doing?

The rest was a bit less informative. I would try to explain what I read, but I am not sure myself.
 
2014-05-20 03:33:40 PM  

James!: I wonder what it's like to have an entire political party attack you for 22 years.


Ask any gay person, women or minorities.
 
2014-05-20 03:33:45 PM  

Geotpf: czetie: Geotpf: Mercutio74: She'd likely be a fairly moderate Republican if she gets in.

Why do people keep saying things like this when it is obviously not true?  He political positions are about as "Generic Democrat" as is physically possible.

Hmmm. Her positions might be "generic Democrat political establishment", but they are well to the right of the average Democratic voter/supporter, and well to the right of where the democratic party was before, say Bill Clinton "triangulated".

Bull.  The average Democratic voter is much, much,  much more conservative than the average Fark poster or what the average Fark poster believes them to be.

Proof:

[img.fark.net image 300x129]

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2014/05/06/cnn-2016-poll-bush-a nd -paul-tied-for-top-spot-in-crowded-gop-field/

Yes, 19% of Democrats want a more conservative Democrat than Hillary for President while only 13% want a more liberal one.


With a typical confidence of +/- 3%-4% that is not a huge statistical change.
 
2014-05-20 04:10:21 PM  
God help me, I RTFA and there was not a single actual example of actual hypocrisy provided.
 
2014-05-20 05:01:20 PM  

Geotpf: Mercutio74: She'd likely be a fairly moderate Republican if she gets in.

Why do people keep saying things like this when it is obviously not true?  He political positions are about as "Generic Democrat" as is physically possible.


"Generic Democrat" is "moderate Republican" these days. Liz Warren is the exception, not the rule.
 
2014-05-20 06:02:27 PM  

Geotpf: czetie: Geotpf: Mercutio74: She'd likely be a fairly moderate Republican if she gets in.

Why do people keep saying things like this when it is obviously not true?  He political positions are about as "Generic Democrat" as is physically possible.

Hmmm. Her positions might be "generic Democrat political establishment", but they are well to the right of the average Democratic voter/supporter, and well to the right of where the democratic party was before, say Bill Clinton "triangulated".

Bull.  The average Democratic voter is much, much,  much more conservative than the average Fark poster or what the average Fark poster believes them to be.

Proof:

[img.fark.net image 300x129]

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2014/05/06/cnn-2016-poll-bush-a nd -paul-tied-for-top-spot-in-crowded-gop-field/

Yes, 19% of Democrats want a more conservative Democrat than Hillary for President while only 13% want a more liberal one.


And again, that's more a result of liberals dropping out of the Democrats (thus having no political party represent them) than any functional change in leadership.  Democrats are center-right; Republicans are hard right. There are likely more voters to the left of the Democrats than there are "fence-sitters" in between Republicans and Democrats.  They either don't go to the polls or vote Democrat because the other option is worse.
 
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