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(Marketwatch)   The most hated cable company in America is _______. Please answer between 9 and 12, or 1 and 5   (marketwatch.com) divider line 125
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2014-05-20 09:55:02 AM  
And CenturyLink isn't even specifically listed.  Probably because they don't have wide coverage yet.

I'm moving at the end of the month and will have to leave that behind.  It's really too bad because I have nothing but good things to say about them.
 
2014-05-20 09:57:54 AM  
Am I missing something, or are none of the percentage changes actually correct?

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2014-05-20 10:33:51 AM  

scottydoesntknow: Am I missing something, or are none of the percentage changes actually correct?

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Well, they're definitely rounded. The percentage difference between 72 and 69 is 4.2553%, between 71 and 69 is 2.8571%, between 73 and 68 is 7.0922%, etc.
 
2014-05-20 01:07:55 PM  

Diogenes: And CenturyLink isn't even specifically listed.  Probably because they don't have wide coverage yet.

I'm moving at the end of the month and will have to leave that behind.  It's really too bad because I have nothing but good things to say about them.


Me too. I'm very happy with my CL service.
 
2014-05-20 01:08:31 PM  
All huge corporations suck. Some suck slightly more and some slightly less, but they all suck.
 
2014-05-20 01:08:37 PM  
www.chicagonow.com
 
2014-05-20 01:08:44 PM  
southparkstudios.mtvnimages.com
 
2014-05-20 01:09:16 PM  
I don't like any of them, and no, I don't have cable.  Do not want.

At least once a month I get a knock on the door from someone from that company.

I gotta ask--is that residential solicitation?  Because my town has an ordinance forbidding that.
 
2014-05-20 01:09:43 PM  

scottydoesntknow: Am I missing something, or are none of the percentage changes actually correct?

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I'm guessing due to rounding?

Or Common Core math.
 
2014-05-20 01:09:54 PM  
Wait, this article isn't about Comcast...
 
2014-05-20 01:11:19 PM  

Diogenes: m moving at the end of the month and will have to leave that behind. It's really too bad because I have nothing but good things to say about them.


I also love me some Century Link. Their 'homepage' politics leans somewhere between Brietbart and Townhall,  but they never throttle down and they have never given so much as a tinker's dam no matter what I download.
 
2014-05-20 01:11:28 PM  

Sybarite: scottydoesntknow: Am I missing something, or are none of the percentage changes actually correct?

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Well, they're definitely rounded. The percentage difference between 72 and 69 is 4.2553%, between 71 and 69 is 2.8571%, between 73 and 68 is 7.0922%, etc.


It's a percentage lost, not the number of points lost.
DirecTV - lost 3 points. 3/68 = 4.4%
Verizon - lost 5 points. 5/73 = 6.8%.
TWC - lost 4 points. 4/60 = 6.66...%

So, they should have stuck to one decimal place, or none. But things appear accurate-ish at first glance.
 
2014-05-20 01:12:59 PM  

Dahnkster: Diogenes: m moving at the end of the month and will have to leave that behind. It's really too bad because I have nothing but good things to say about them.

I also love me some Century Link. Their 'homepage' politics leans somewhere between Brietbart and Townhall,  but they never throttle down and they have never given so much as a tinker's dam no matter what I download.


I too am looking to move, but not to a specific area. CL coverage will be one of the determining factors.
 
2014-05-20 01:14:43 PM  
Plaza.

media.nj.com
 
2014-05-20 01:16:06 PM  
It hardly matters, since there will soon be only 1 or 2 distinct cable companies left.
 
2014-05-20 01:16:09 PM  

Miss Alexandra: I don't like any of them, and no, I don't have cable.  Do not want.

At least once a month I get a knock on the door from someone from that company.

I gotta ask--is that residential solicitation?  Because my town has an ordinance forbidding that.


Stand your ground.
 
2014-05-20 01:16:55 PM  
Love FiOS. When I lived in WI I had ATT Uverse which gave us more tv channels but slower interwebs. Now I have a few less channels but faster interwebs. At least i dont have Comcrap
 
2014-05-20 01:17:55 PM  
You mean there is more than 1?  I thought they were all owned by the same parent company.
 
2014-05-20 01:18:44 PM  

Inchoate: [southparkstudios.mtvnimages.com image 400x300]


truthfrequencyradio.com
 
2014-05-20 01:19:09 PM  
...Cocks?
 
2014-05-20 01:19:17 PM  
Confirmed. Having had Comcast before (and even workign there) TWC is far worse if you can believe it.
 
2014-05-20 01:19:26 PM  
img.fark.net
Oblig
 
2014-05-20 01:22:02 PM  
Gonna take a quick guess: time Warner? Not to check and see....
 
2014-05-20 01:22:40 PM  
Darn, Mediacom's not specifically listed, either.  And they do suck, particularly when it comes to customer service.  Actually, I only get internet from them, although they do keep trying  to get me to add cable back into the mix, and then to add phone service on top of  that.  Nope.  Not putting all my eggs in one overpriced basket.
 
2014-05-20 01:23:41 PM  

Dirty J1: Gonna take a quick guess: time Warner? Not to check and see....


Ha! Nailed it! Had these guys before and they sucked.
 
2014-05-20 01:27:12 PM  
I can't get this to upload properly here at work, but I made this image about 2 weeks ago because I've gotten completely fed up with Comcast lately:

http://imgur.com/UoVosN1
 
2014-05-20 01:27:58 PM  
Comcast?
*checks link*
So close.

Comcast apparently just decided I can no longer have The Hub, and put it (along with 79 channels I'll never watch) in the next higher bracket, because Ponies.
I had that farking channel for the last 5 years. Then "Nope. Not yours anymore. We are taking just that one channel away)
 
2014-05-20 01:30:50 PM  
Direct-AT&Tverse??
 
2014-05-20 01:31:07 PM  
We used to have Charter Com. here and they did suck.. support was horrible. Knew two people that worked local tier one, yank-your-chain and waste your time, support for them, and happened to know exactly where the main support center in Louisville, KY was because I passed right by it while I was there, many times.
Dropped signals, IP addy changes as often as 1 minute apart... got into the "modem" and printed out THEIR modem log for the recent events and took 5 pages of events in to show manager what had been happening.. 3 months free; she had NO idea wtf any of it meant.  One support guy got mouthy on the phone.. until I told him where he was sitting in Louisville, including interstate, exit name AND #, street name and left turn into parking lot.. going to stop by and have a face to face chat over some hot coffee after I grab some fresh Krispy Kreams off Bardstown Road... 2 months free. LMAO Neighbor (one of the two that worked support) said it was rare to get a single free month from them.
Another moron said MY computer was controlling all the IP address assignments for their network.. that is why it was changing addresses so often.  I said I wanted paid for that!

We have Suddenlink now and they have been pretty good (good enough I went with Cable/Net/Phone VIP package), although for the past month, month and half, the 15MB has been running at 1/2 or even 1/3 strength and starting to royally piss me off.  However, I do know they are in the middle of upgrades, so giving them some time.
 
2014-05-20 01:32:27 PM  

scottydoesntknow: Am I missing something, or are none of the percentage changes actually correct?

[ei.marketwatch.com image 569x398]


Percent change = ([Final - Initial]/Initial)*100%

Most were within a few tenths.  Rounded off for easy reading.
 
2014-05-20 01:35:17 PM  
We will never ever ever ever have Google Fiber in Texas because Time Warner has a strangle hold on internet service here. IF you dont like it, farking move.

/EVER
 
2014-05-20 01:35:25 PM  
Our internet/phone is through Charter, I really am rather pleased with them. I know there's horror stories about everybody, but they've been easy to deal with and have held up their end of things. I do wish they would just give me a consistent rate instead of going from deal to deal all the time though- I hate having to watch for when our bill changes and then call and try to get on another 12 month rate.
 
2014-05-20 01:35:49 PM  

Miss Alexandra: At least once a month I get a knock on the door from someone from that company.


I had cable for internet for a few months between homes and every week someone would call me up trying to sell me phone service.  I kept asking - what year is this? 1997?  Who the hell still has a landline?

/threatened legal action got them to eventually stop
 
2014-05-20 01:36:21 PM  
If it weren't for live sports, particularly the NFL, I'd ditch cable altogether. Does the NFL network offer RedZone streaming?
 
2014-05-20 01:37:04 PM  

orclover: We will never ever ever ever have Google Fiber in Texas because Time Warner has a strangle hold on internet service here. IF you dont like it, farking move.

/EVER


Or move to Austin.
 
2014-05-20 01:37:36 PM  
It took Comcast 11 weeks to send me the self-install cable box.  I signed up online, but heard nothing for 5 weeks.  Then I spent the next 6 weeks dealing with Support to simply mail me the box for which I had paid S/H!  They wanted me to drive somewhere and pick it up!  Fark that!

Meanwhile, I was billed 3 months of service, because Billing has absolutely no idea what's going on.  Took some nastygrams to convince them not only was I not hooked up, but that I had paid for a month of service in advance.

Farking nightmare.
 
2014-05-20 01:37:39 PM  
I'm happy with Dish network.  The Hopper DVR is much better than the older DVR system.

I hate snow on my sat. dish. but that's not thier fault (is it?)
 
2014-05-20 01:37:53 PM  

buckeyebrain: Wait, this article isn't about Comcast...


Ugh, I got 3 hours of misery Sunday from those d-bags.

/Hold on for just a second sir, I'm a moron and have no idea whats going on so I'm gonna tell you I'm putting you on hold to get help and then hang up.
 
2014-05-20 01:40:39 PM  
As a former Time Warner customer, I can tell you. They suck to "commiting fraud' levels. Listen carefully to their (and anyone else's ads) and learn something.

You get cable. If you get the super duper tier, you get on demand, dvr, watch on any device, etc) FREE!!!

Except in TW's case this shiat DIDNT FARCKING WORK. All you could be sure of was a nice big error message when you went to use on demand, or finally got round to watching that Breaking Bad finale, etc.

So you say..."That's bullshiat, I'm calling customer service!" you call customer service, present them your documentation, email them your screenshots and demand a refund.

I shiat you not, you'll hear this "I'm sorry, but there is no refund. those services are all "free", unless there is an interruption of regular cable service...blah blah blah".

To their credit, by the time I left them, they were a bunch better, but a scam is a scam, friends.

i1001.photobucket.com
 
2014-05-20 01:41:29 PM  

gingerjet: orclover: We will never ever ever ever have Google Fiber in Texas because Time Warner has a strangle hold on internet service here. IF you dont like it, farking move.

/EVER

Or move to Austin.


or Houston.
 
2014-05-20 01:42:17 PM  
Satisfaction with cable companies plummet
i7.photobucket.com
 
2014-05-20 01:43:53 PM  
Clearly not enough Comcast users were surveyed in this study.

Where to start?

How about the fact that they're the only major cable company that still doesn't allow users to stream HBO GO on Rokus.

Or that they still have relatively few channels in HD.

Or that when you drop their service, they hound you like a collection agency to get you to sign back up (I'm sure other cable companies do this, but when I dropped TWC two years ago I didn't get one telemarketing call).

Let's not forget their crappy on demand menu system that hasn't changed since 2005.
 
2014-05-20 01:46:17 PM  
A.: Whichever one you have.
 
2014-05-20 01:46:36 PM  
I am stunned any of those numbers are over 25%! They all suck. The phone companies suck and blow; especially mobile carriers. It's like Ma Bell runs the entire telecommunications industry.

img.fark.net
 
2014-05-20 01:46:56 PM  
I just cannot believe that Time Warner Cable is on that list.  Who doesn't love:

Revolving channel lineups?
Redundant channel slots that make you have to scroll by storage wars 3 times while looking through the guide?
A channel lineup that appears to have been organized by the Riddler?
Struggling through 10 different people at the call center because no one can figure out why your bill just went up $10-50/month?
Seeing Coach Cower pimping TWC every eight minutes no matter what channel you are on?
DVR systems that freeze and randomly shut off, usually while recording something you really want to watch.
Internet that does the same.

I freaking love TWC!
 
2014-05-20 01:47:29 PM  
Yeah, my parents are moving and transferring their services, but Comcast shut off the internet about a week early. Between my mom and myself, we spent several hours on the phone and talked to at least 10 different people... finally they decided they would have to send out a tech. No thanks, go fark yourself.

I thought TW was pretty good when I lived in NYC, but I never had a problem for them to fix.
 
2014-05-20 01:48:24 PM  
I cut the cord many years ago. I still go through Charter for Internet, but I don't pay for cable TV. I get everything via streaming services. I haven't missed an episode of anything I like, yet.

Of course, I'm not a big fan of most TV shows, either. Reality shows suck. I'm not into sports. I hate cable news networks. I only barely tolerate most sitcoms.

To me, the vast majority of what's on cable television is like the slop in a hog trough. Only fat, stupid pigs line up to ingest it.
 
2014-05-20 01:49:42 PM  
I never had a problem with TW.  It always worked, was reasonably priced, had fast internet, and no contracts.

None of that is true with DirectTV.
 
2014-05-20 01:49:44 PM  

thornhill: How about the fact that they're the only major cable company that still doesn't allow users to stream HBO GO on Rokus.


uh...TWC doesnt allow HBO Go. Or at least they didnt as of 2 months ago
 
2014-05-20 01:50:56 PM  

CruJones: I never had a problem with TW.  It always worked, was reasonably priced, had fast internet, and no contracts.

None of that is true with DirectTV.


I gotta give em that. They had good internet, fast upload. No complaints there.
 
2014-05-20 01:52:47 PM  
"Please answer between 9 and 12, or 1 and 5"
My answer: 2.7
 
2014-05-20 01:53:01 PM  
I've never had anything but Time Warner. Oddly, the service they provide where I live now is a lot better than what they provided in antoher part of the same city, where I lived before.
 
2014-05-20 01:53:22 PM  
The most hated cable company is the one the most people have. The best company is the one whose sh*t you don't have to deal with.
 
2014-05-20 01:53:36 PM  
I've had Bombcast for many years - as an ISP & phone only - and haven't had many troubles with them but when I have had to call customer service I make sure I have several drinks ready.

When i moved from FL to GA I accidentally sent an online payment to the old FL account.  It was a damned nightmare to get that money back.  Not because they were stingy but because my GA account was linked to my FL phone number and my FL account was linked to my new Comcast home number.  I'd call, enter the old account number, and get routed to a GA call center where they couldn't help me with a FL account.  The drones in FL would transfer me to the generic inbound queue and I would just get routed back to FL.  It took me over a year to finally get a human supervisor on the line to clear it up.
 
2014-05-20 01:55:17 PM  

The Irresponsible Captain: I am stunned any of those numbers are over 25%! They all suck. The phone companies suck and blow; especially mobile carriers. It's like Ma Bell runs the entire telecommunications industry.

[img.fark.net image 363x209]


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dktVJ3qRGS0
 
2014-05-20 01:55:39 PM  

jso2897: I've never had anything but Time Warner. Oddly, the service they provide where I live now is a lot better than what they provided in antoher part of the same city, where I lived before.


network saturation. Always has been their problem. They wont admit it, though.
 
2014-05-20 01:55:40 PM  
I moved recently. Current place doesn't have cable (aside from internet, which leasing company includes in rent, and I have no idea who it's even through) and I'm finding that between Netflix, firstrow and a shared HBO GO basspword for GoT, I don't miss it.

Will see if that changes coem football season, but since there's a bar in my building's basement, I think I'm good.
 
2014-05-20 01:57:53 PM  

orclover: We will never ever ever ever have Google Fiber in Texas because Time Warner has a strangle hold on internet service here. IF you dont like it, farking move.

/EVER


Or some parts of the dfw area, but they're quietly testing there and wanting to keep it on the down low.
 
2014-05-20 01:58:09 PM  
Are we to account for dailight savings?
 
2014-05-20 01:58:23 PM  

Geoff Peterson: thornhill: How about the fact that they're the only major cable company that still doesn't allow users to stream HBO GO on Rokus.

uh...TWC doesnt allow HBO Go. Or at least they didnt as of 2 months ago


I believe they've allowed it since 2013
 
2014-05-20 02:03:03 PM  
I had Cablevision for many years.  The price kept going up.  Their service was spotty, the signal gave out from time to time.  There were glitches while just watching a regular show.  Their HD was inconsistent.  And here's the kicker - I like to sometimes watch TV on my tablet after everyone else has gone to bed.  They had an app for that.  It worked great on my phone.  My tablet, which is 3 years newer and running a newer version of Android was not supported.  Go figure.  A few months ago, they forced me to upgrade the app on my phone.  Now my phone isn't supported either.  Thanks a lot for that guys!

Now, being an Android developer myself, I know for a fact, there is no friggin excuse for that, other than being lazy.

So I went with FiOS.  They have better signal, better picture, and it's more consistent.  They have more HD.  And they have an app that works 100% on my phone AND my tablet, AND my kid's iPhones.
I also have faster internet speeds, and my bill is about $50 less per month.  And they gave me a $250 gift card.

Suck it Cablevision.
 
2014-05-20 02:07:39 PM  

thornhill: Geoff Peterson: thornhill: How about the fact that they're the only major cable company that still doesn't allow users to stream HBO GO on Rokus.

uh...TWC doesnt allow HBO Go. Or at least they didnt as of 2 months ago

I believe they've allowed it since 2013


I wish someone would have told me. I never could get it before I quit them. It must have been the latter half of 2013.
 
2014-05-20 02:08:22 PM  
Worked very briefly for a cable company. I was dumbfounded at how clueless they were with regards to customer service and anticipating customer needs. FIOS had just moved into the area and they were already starting to lose customers to them, but they still acted like they were the only game in town.
 
2014-05-20 02:09:18 PM  
C. All of them.
 
2014-05-20 02:12:46 PM  

h0tsauce: Worked very briefly for a cable company. I was dumbfounded at how clueless they were with regards to customer service and anticipating customer needs. FIOS had just moved into the area and they were already starting to lose customers to them, but they still acted like they were the only game in town.


Probably because they were the only game in town for a decade or two.
 
2014-05-20 02:17:41 PM  

Danger Mouse: I'm happy with Dish network.  The Hopper DVR is much better than the older DVR system.

I hate snow on my sat. dish. but that's not thier fault (is it?)


I had Dish Network a long time ago, but there are trees in my neighborhood, and after 4 visits from Dish Network technicians trying to figure out why my HD service would freeze up the entire signal reception so badly that it would not respond to attempts to change the channel, power off, etc., they finally told me I would have to cut down some 50-year-old trees for the signal to be received for HD reliably or I would have o put the dish on a pole that is higher than the highest of those trees.  I told them at that point that I had no intention of installing a 75' pole in my yard or cutting down several trees due to a fault in their product that does not allow for trees and service to simultaneously exist and I canceled Dish and switched to AT&T U-verse.  You could argue that snow and trees are both not their fault, but what they do is expose weaknesses in the service being provided by Dish.  That weakness doesn't exist for other options, so yes, you can buy a house that has no trees around and for making the decision to live near trees, you accept the consequences, but since Dish is not the only option available and they don't care to offer reasonable solutions to that weakness, they just aren't an acceptable option for some people.

AT&T has been an absolute nightmare with at least 6 tech visits in the last year, faulty equipment that AT&T refused to admit was faulty for a while, and billing errors.  Recently canceled TV service again after they tried to raise my bill $50 a month after promotions ended.  I hadn't had TV for 2 years before that and didn't mind it.  I don't have Netflix or Amazon prime and my experience with Hulu hasn't been great either.  Where I live, an antenna isn't an option as I'm in a valley.  I'm fine without live TV.  I'll take it if they make it cheap enough to be worth the problems for the limited amount I watch it, but for even $50 a month over the course of a year, you can buy a lot of DVDs and Blu-Rays for $600 a year.  I own several full TV series and hundreds of movies, and the longer periods of time I go without paying $50 a month for cable, the bigger my collection gets, making the likelihood of my ever paying that again less and less likely.

AT&T, meanwhile, recently sent me an offer to add TV back where I'd be paying $7 more a month for the next year than I was previously, but with them giving me a $250 Visa gift card.  They weren't willing to work with me before I dropped them, but now they're willing to reinstall everything for the TV, eat the shipping of the equipment I just returned to them on their dime, and give me $250 if I pay $7 a month more than I was paying before I dropped them a couple weeks ago.  The math just doesn't seem right to me, and now that I've dropped them again and am not missing it, even that doesn't really mean much to me yet.  Either they have no concept of making good business decisions, didn't think I'd leave again, or are planning some unpleasant itemizing costs that I wouldn't agree to.  The last time they asked me to complete a survey, I gave them something like a 60% satisfaction rating and the only positive comment I had for them was that at least they aren't Comcast, whom I've had before and never want to deal with again.
 
2014-05-20 02:20:41 PM  
As someone who just got lied to by Comcast regarding my monthly rate, I am not getting a kick.

/Google Fiber is coming to my town
//Can't wait to tell Comcast to go fark themselves
///made a customer service rep cry
////maybe she should inform her coworkers that when you lie about billing there will be angry reactions
 
2014-05-20 02:25:58 PM  

orclover: We will never ever ever ever have Google Fiber in Texas because Time Warner has a strangle hold on internet service here. IF you dont like it, farking move.

/EVER


You trollin'? Or just unfamiliar with Austin?

//San Antonio will find out soon whether or not we make the cut. Can't wait.
 
2014-05-20 02:27:22 PM  

Jayseauxfocci: wall of text


Dish shouldn't have installed in the first place, but the technician might have been under pressure and didn't want to get hit with a NLOS visit (no line-of-sight). Going through the trees is a major issue with satellite. You MUST HAVE PERFECT line-of-sight or there will be a terrible signal if any. You wouldn't have needed a 75' pole, installing on the roof would probably have been okay. I've seen some dishes on a tripod on a roof to see over trees. Of course, after some years, the trees keep growing and the tripod doesn't.

One of the first things I'm doing when I move next months is putting up a dish to get the national PBS feeds. With patience and line-of-sight you can get a god amount of stuff for free. Just have to worry about those trees. And snow on the dish.
 
2014-05-20 02:33:07 PM  

thornhill: h0tsauce: Worked very briefly for a cable company. I was dumbfounded at how clueless they were with regards to customer service and anticipating customer needs. FIOS had just moved into the area and they were already starting to lose customers to them, but they still acted like they were the only game in town.

Probably because they were the only game in town for a decade or two.


memecrunch.com
 
2014-05-20 02:34:56 PM  

Geoff Peterson: thornhill: How about the fact that they're the only major cable company that still doesn't allow users to stream HBO GO on Rokus.

uh...TWC doesnt allow HBO Go. Or at least they didnt as of 2 months ago


TWC does allow you stream everything real-time to your iPad, which I thought was pretty cool.
 
2014-05-20 02:39:36 PM  

buckeyebrain: Wait, this article isn't about Comcast...


it was they just used the Time Warner logo

http://corporate.comcast.com/news-information/news-feed/time-warner- ca ble-to-merge-with-comcast-corporation
 
2014-05-20 02:41:35 PM  

Diogenes: And CenturyLink isn't even specifically listed.  Probably because they don't have wide coverage yet.

I'm moving at the end of the month and will have to leave that behind.  It's really too bad because I have nothing but good things to say about them.


they got into cable? I have my dish bundled through them

or do you mean suddenlink?
 
2014-05-20 02:46:16 PM  
I really do find it amazing how expensive all pay services, especially cable, can be.  And what's really frustrating is when your bill goes up, they have no explanation other than that it costs them more to maintain the service.  Really?  Why?

So then you call to cancel your service because you just switched to a different service, they tell you, "We can match that price!".   Oh, really?!  Why the hell didn't you match that price months ago?  Why are you only willing to do it now because I'm switching?  I thought it was getting more expensive for you to maintain the service.  You can't possibly afford to CUT my rate!  That's unpossible!!

This is why (and I wonder how common this is), people around here will switch services to get the deal.  Keep it for 2 years.  Then, right before they jack the price up, they take the NEW deal from the competitor and switch back.  I know people that have done this many, many times, over the years.
 
2014-05-20 02:46:48 PM  

MythDragon: Comcast?
*checks link*
So close.

Comcast apparently just decided I can no longer have The Hub, and put it (along with 79 channels I'll never watch) in the next higher bracket, because Ponies.
I had that farking channel for the last 5 years. Then "Nope. Not yours anymore. We are taking just that one channel away)


As a fellow Comcast prisoner, I can relate to your dilemma. Last year they took away my fave geek / gamer channel, the G4 network (sigh) and now going away in the first week of June is the Nick 2 channel on the 100's digital tier block. (Being replaced by the regular Nickelodeon, which we already have on a lower channel block.....so two copies of the same channel?) I'm not the one who is sad about that one, though.....My 5 year old niece is! How am I supposed to explain to her that one of her favorite cartoon channels will go bye bye?

/ I can't understand the lineup changes these past few years.....Comcast going crazy
 
2014-05-20 02:50:20 PM  

Jayberrysparklesalot: As a fellow Comcast prisoner, I can relate to your dilemma. Last year they took away my fave geek / gamer channel, the G4 network (sigh) and now going away in the first week of June is the Nick 2 channel on the 100's digital tier block. (Being replaced by the regular Nickelodeon, which we already have on a lower channel block.....so two copies of the same channel?) I'm not the one who is sad about that one, though.....My 5 year old niece is! How am I supposed to explain to her that one of her favorite cartoon channels will g


G4 I thought was becoming the GQ channel, so for once it might not be Comcasts fault
 
2014-05-20 02:51:42 PM  

Inchoate:


+1 internets for you

Oh yeah.....this is so relevant to the discussion at hand! LOL

/ the choices you have.....none very good at all

// and.....vote or die, muthafarker!
 
2014-05-20 02:52:40 PM  
I wonder why people don't organize a strike or boycott the cable companies.  If you're going to keep shelling money for garbage you're going to get garbage.
 
2014-05-20 03:05:48 PM  

loonatic112358: Jayberrysparklesalot: As a fellow Comcast prisoner, I can relate to your dilemma. Last year they took away my fave geek / gamer channel, the G4 network (sigh) and now going away in the first week of June is the Nick 2 channel on the 100's digital tier block. (Being replaced by the regular Nickelodeon, which we already have on a lower channel block.....so two copies of the same channel?) I'm not the one who is sad about that one, though.....My 5 year old niece is! How am I supposed to explain to her that one of her favorite cartoon channels will g

G4 I thought was becoming the GQ channel, so for once it might not be Comcasts fault


Reminds me of when the Soap channel disappeared.  (My wife watched it.  Shut up.)  I initally blamed the cable company.  Then I found out that Disney, the actual owner, simply killed the channel.
Not much you can do when that happens.
 
2014-05-20 03:16:32 PM  

pjbreeze: I wonder why people don't organize a strike or boycott the cable companies.  If you're going to keep shelling money for garbage you're going to get garbage.


Lots of folks are voting with their dollars and cancelling ("cutting the cord", as the kids like to call it). It's definitely an adjustment if you grew up with cable, but not paying $100/month is very refreshing. Lots of people still don't realize you can put up an antenna (or use the old metal monster that you never took down off your roof) and get free television in HD (especially if you're in a big city - I get 100+ channels in Socal, 30+ of which I actually watch/enjoy/understand the language of). I still have to deal with TWC for my internet, but other than them raising the price here and there, the service is fine.

The key to being happy is taking a zen-like approach and stop caring about specific shows. You're not going to get them all, and that's okay.
 
2014-05-20 03:26:18 PM  
The simple correct answer is "mine" - for whoever you are.
 
2014-05-20 03:26:55 PM  
Good thing I have Netflix, then.
 
2014-05-20 03:37:09 PM  

Jayseauxfocci: Danger Mouse: I'm happy with Dish network.  The Hopper DVR is much better than the older DVR system.

I hate snow on my sat. dish. but that's not thier fault (is it?)

I had Dish Network a long time ago, but there are trees in my neighborhood, and after 4 visits from Dish Network technicians trying to figure out why my HD service would freeze up the entire signal reception so badly that it would not respond to attempts to change the channel, power off, etc., they finally told me I would have to cut down some 50-year-old trees for the signal to be received for HD reliably or I would have o put the dish on a pole that is higher than the highest of those trees.  I told them at that point that I had no intention of installing a 75' pole in my yard or cutting down several trees due to a fault in their product that does not allow for trees and service to simultaneously exist and I canceled Dish and switched to AT&T U-verse.  You could argue that snow and trees are both not their fault, but what they do is expose weaknesses in the service being provided by Dish.  That weakness doesn't exist for other options, so yes, you can buy a house that has no trees around and for making the decision to live near trees, you accept the consequences, but since Dish is not the only option available and they don't care to offer reasonable solutions to that weakness, they just aren't an acceptable option for some people.


The installer should have been able to tell you when installing the dish if it would work. They have a little scope that lets them measure the azimuth. I live on a wooded lot and had the same concerns. They checked and it's been good.

They suck for not being able to tell you that the trees were in the way. Not that satilite tech can't see through foligage.
 
2014-05-20 03:37:16 PM  

loonatic112358: Jayberrysparklesalot: As a fellow Comcast prisoner, I can relate to your dilemma. Last year they took away my fave geek / gamer channel, the G4 network (sigh) and now going away in the first week of June is the Nick 2 channel on the 100's digital tier block. (Being replaced by the regular Nickelodeon, which we already have on a lower channel block.....so two copies of the same channel?) I'm not the one who is sad about that one, though.....My 5 year old niece is! How am I supposed to explain to her that one of her favorite cartoon channels will g

G4 I thought was becoming the GQ channel, so for once it might not be Comcasts fault


Uhh, I'm not sure that is right.....

The G4 channel was all about gadgets, computers, and video gaming. That one went away in the first few months of 2013.

The GQ channel is about fashion and the upscale lifestyle for men, I think. I don't watch it, but based on the magazine.....I assume it will be similar. Not 100% sure about it, though.

/ my new fave network is El Ray by Robert Rodriguez. Old Shaolin style karate flicks, sci-fi movies, action/horror grind house movie Fridays, and the X Files & Dark Angel series.....just awesome!
 
2014-05-20 03:37:19 PM  

VOCSL5: I can't get this to upload properly here at work, but I made this image about 2 weeks ago because I've gotten completely fed up with Comcast lately:

http://imgur.com/UoVosN1

"Font and color choice are an homage to my home country, and used to add further impact to my statement."


You sound like a patriot.
 
2014-05-20 03:37:51 PM  
I am surprised there is someone worse than Comcast.
I switched to DirecTV and have been complaint-free and saving money for about 4 years now.   Maybe 3 or 4 times per year I do lose my signal in horrible weather and catch up on my DVR.
 
2014-05-20 03:48:04 PM  

Diogenes: And CenturyLink isn't even specifically listed.  Probably because they don't have wide coverage yet.

I'm moving at the end of the month and will have to leave that behind.  It's really too bad because I have nothing but good things to say about them.


I haven't had a problem with them at all in the last six months. The thing I'm most happy about though is that merely because they exist I didn't have to go through Comcast.
 
2014-05-20 03:49:08 PM  

Jayberrysparklesalot: / I can't understand the lineup changes these past few years.....Comcast going crazy


Simple -
1.move all the channels with any entertainment value whatsoever to the highest tiers,
2. replace them with ShopNBC, QVC, HSN, ShopHQ, and other sales and auction channels, or in the case of my provider fill the lowest tiers with Mexican broadcast channels and infomercial networks.
3. profit

/it's all about money
//ain't a damn thing funny
 
2014-05-20 03:53:48 PM  
"And finally, Hyken says, it may be worth saying that you are seriously considering switching service to another company or cutting the cord (ask to speak to the retention department about this)"


This is a worthwhile trick. A previous employer had "customer care advocates", and they really did help. Talking to the retention department can usually get your rates pro-rated, and would really highlight issues that merely checking out Remedy tickets and SMNP traps wouldn't show. They were also helpful when us mere techs needed to pushback against some dumbass VPs "brilliant" idea of the week.
 
2014-05-20 03:57:54 PM  
I will say the only major issue I had with dish network was 7 years ago when they were offering a free DVR to new customers.

I had fufilled my contract and was a customer at will and called and asked for the free DVR. The customer rep refused. I explained that Direct TV had the same offer, but would rather stay with Dish and was more than willing to enter into another 2 year contract. Nope.

Obvioulsy I had a customer service rep in a forighn country who was not allowed to deviate from her script.

I wrote an email to the VP at Echostar asking for him to explain to me why I was not qualified for the offer, and that I would probably switch to Direct TV.

The next day I got a phone call from a dish district manager saying he didn't know who I spoke to, but he has never seen a service request get fast tracked like that before and wanted to know when he could come by an install my DVR system.
 
2014-05-20 04:12:56 PM  

Jayberrysparklesalot: MythDragon: Comcast?
*checks link*
So close.

Comcast apparently just decided I can no longer have The Hub, and put it (along with 79 channels I'll never watch) in the next higher bracket, because Ponies.
I had that farking channel for the last 5 years. Then "Nope. Not yours anymore. We are taking just that one channel away)

As a fellow Comcast prisoner, I can relate to your dilemma. Last year they took away my fave geek / gamer channel, the G4 network (sigh) and now going away in the first week of June is the Nick 2 channel on the 100's digital tier block. (Being replaced by the regular Nickelodeon, which we already have on a lower channel block.....so two copies of the same channel?) I'm not the one who is sad about that one, though.....My 5 year old niece is! How am I supposed to explain to her that one of her favorite cartoon channels will go bye bye?

/ I can't understand the lineup changes these past few years.....Comcast going crazy


That's another thing I've noticed, they give you several repeat channels and count that as the line up. Oh wow. I can watch the same show on channel 1152 or 345? I love options! thanks Comcast!

Dish was also horrible about that with their top 50,100,150 line up. You're telling me that 6 golf channels are in the top 50 most popular channels, but History is only in the top 100 and SciFi is not until the top 150? Fark you, Dish.
 
2014-05-20 04:14:50 PM  

Jayseauxfocci: Danger Mouse: I'm happy with Dish network.  The Hopper DVR is much better than the older DVR system.

I hate snow on my sat. dish. but that's not thier fault (is it?)

I had Dish Network a long time ago, but there are trees in my neighborhood, and after 4 visits from Dish Network technicians trying to figure out why my HD service would freeze up the entire signal reception so badly that it would not respond to attempts to change the channel, power off, etc., they finally told me I would have to cut down some 50-year-old trees for the signal to be received for HD reliably or I would have o put the dish on a pole that is higher than the highest of those trees.  I told them at that point that I had no intention of installing a 75' pole in my yard or cutting down several trees due to a fault in their product that does not allow for trees and service to simultaneously exist and I canceled Dish and switched to AT&T U-verse.  You could argue that snow and trees are both not their fault, but what they do is expose weaknesses in the service being provided by Dish.  That weakness doesn't exist for other options, so yes, you can buy a house that has no trees around and for making the decision to live near trees, you accept the consequences, but since Dish is not the only option available and they don't care to offer reasonable solutions to that weakness, they just aren't an acceptable option for some people.

AT&T has been an absolute nightmare with at least 6 tech visits in the last year, faulty equipment that AT&T refused to admit was faulty for a while, and billing errors.  Recently canceled TV service again after they tried to raise my bill $50 a month after promotions ended.  I hadn't had TV for 2 years before that and didn't mind it.  I don't have Netflix or Amazon prime and my experience with Hulu hasn't been great either.  Where I live, an antenna isn't an option as I'm in a valley.  I'm fine without live TV.  I'll take it if they make it cheap enough to be worth the problems for the limited amount I watch it, but for even $50 a month over the course of a year, you can buy a lot of DVDs and Blu-Rays for $600 a year.  I own several full TV series and hundreds of movies, and the longer periods of time I go without paying $50 a month for cable, the bigger my collection gets, making the likelihood of my ever paying that again less and less likely.

AT&T, meanwhile, recently sent me an offer to add TV back where I'd be paying $7 more a month for the next year than I was previously, but with them giving me a $250 Visa gift card.  They weren't willing to work with me before I dropped them, but now they're willing to reinstall everything for the TV, eat the shipping of the equipment I just returned to them on their dime, and give me $250 if I pay $7 a month more than I was paying before I dropped them a couple weeks ago.  The math just doesn't seem right to me, and now that I've dropped them again and am not missing it, even that doesn't really mean much to me yet.  Either they have no concept of making good business decisions, didn't think I'd leave again, or are planning some unpleasant itemizing costs that I wouldn't agree to.  The last time they asked me to complete a survey, I gave them something like a 60% satisfaction rating and the only positive comment I had for them was that at least they aren't Comcast, whom I've had before and never want to deal with again.


No matter how much of a wall you write you can't change the laws of physics. Even your mobile phone works better in the winter when the trees don't have leaves.
 
2014-05-20 04:18:26 PM  
Cut the cord in favor of Roku and Smart TV browsing (Netflix, Hulu, etc.) and OTA digital.  Saving about $80/month.  About the only thing I miss is live versions of The Daily Show and Colbert Report.

(And I don't miss them that much.)
 
2014-05-20 04:18:34 PM  

Diogenes: And CenturyLink isn't even specifically listed.  Probably because they don't have wide coverage yet.

I'm moving at the end of the month and will have to leave that behind.  It's really too bad because I have nothing but good things to say about them.


I have NOTHING good to say about them. I had their service for 3 days in January. I STILL Regularly have to call them to get bills to stop, or to get my DirecTV turned back on because I tried to bundle, and they still won't release my account.

We decided to try service back in January. Something about the description made me ask if it was a DSL line, I got repeatedly told no. "It's fiber!".
So my DSL service gets hooked up and the first issue comes up. The house is a rental, and the phone lines are jacked. I finally found one phone jack that worked out in the garage. 3 or 4 days later, I've done multiple tests, the speed is actually slightly slower, and I'm going to have to either talk my landlords into calling out an electrician, doing it my self, or leaving my modem out in the dirty garage.

I call Centrury Link, they seem really helpful, I send everything back, and go on about my business.

IN April, my TV gets shut off, I call DirecTv, they tell me to call Century Link. I call them, and spend an hour explaining that I haven't had CL service since January, I had originally had my DTV bundled, but that was supposed to get released back to DTV back in January. Finally, I convince them that I am no longer a customer and get(another) confirmation code and find out that they don't have anyone in billing past 6 pm.

I find a CenturyLink office on Saturday, go in and find out that they can't do a farking thing because there aren't any people in billing after 6 pm or on weekends.

Monday, I FINALLY get someone and have to go through the whole farking spiel again, especially becaus ethey are NOW having trouble finding my goddam account.

3 weeks later(About a week a and a half ago), my TV goes off AGAIN. Same thing, DTV can't help me, I have to go through CL. Now, I get to find someone who can't find my account, can't find my account, finally finds my account and insists that ti is a business account, calls a supervisor over who "confirms" this and they send me off to the land of 'Business customers', despite my repeated insistence that I am a farking residential customer. I get to play the same farking game with the business accounts people, except that they can't even find the supposed business account. Eventually, they basically tell me tough shiat and the call is over. I call BACK and finally get someone who has at least a semblance of a brain. It turns out that when you have just DTV service through them, they change your account number by one digit. A number becomes something like a 'B' or a 'W'. The best part? They DON'T change it on the farking bill.

Now why the initial dumb broad I called didn't know this, why her supervisor didn't know it, and why the farking prick at business accounts didn't have a clue either, is something that I will never know.

OK, so I paid the bill and got my TV turned on(Again), so I'm done with CL, right?

No, because they bill forward. meaning that they generate the bill at the beginning of the month, so I am constantly owing them more money because they've already paid my bill "for" me.

So fark Century Link. Hopefully Thursday isn't so close to the end of the month that they will have already generated my next bill, or I will go stabby on a whole farking CL office... Otherwise THEN I'll pay it, and I will never do a single bit of business with those farksticks and their insistence on running a utility like it's a farking mud pie booth in their parents' back yard.
 
2014-05-20 04:32:23 PM  
Austin?

Did I farking stutter? I said EVER. Google has been saying "its comming soon" for a very long time.

/FARKING EVER!
//You are gullible to believe Time Warner will ever allow it.
 
2014-05-20 04:46:38 PM  
There's this one firm called Grande Communications that serves apartment complexes. A sure sign that you shouldn't move there.

Verizon FiOS is my heroin. It works. It's not cheap, but it works.
 
2014-05-20 04:59:18 PM  
I'm about to just cancel cable service and go internet only. I've been talking with my wife about it since she watches television more than I do but the kid and I almost never watches TV, it's all Netflix on the iPad. I went to see what was on last night and it was farking abysmal, nothing but shows about pawn shops, car repossession, and QVC. For half the cost of cable I could sub to just about every streaming site I'm interested in: Netflix for me, Hulu for the wife, Crunchyroll for the kid.

I think I'll tell them I'll come back when I can pay for channels individually rather than paying for tiers of crap I will never watch.
 
2014-05-20 05:01:22 PM  

Monkeyhouse Zendo: I'm about to just cancel cable service and go internet only. I've been talking with my wife about it since she watches television more than I do but the kid and I almost never watches TV, it's all Netflix on the iPad. I went to see what was on last night and it was farking abysmal, nothing but shows about pawn shops, car repossession, and QVC. For half the cost of cable I could sub to just about every streaming site I'm interested in: Netflix for me, Hulu for the wife, Crunchyroll for the kid.

I think I'll tell them I'll come back when I can pay for channels individually rather than paying for tiers of crap I will never watch.


She'll get over it.
 
2014-05-20 05:13:08 PM  
I've had TWC, Charter, Dish, and DirecTV.  Honestly, they've all been pretty decent.  I would say that the customer service people at Direct were probably the easiest to deal with while Dish was probably the worst.  Charter and TWC have been pretty good internet wise.  Verizon (DSL, years ago) was probably the worst.  Charter has had a couple of hiccups with wrong work orders here and there, but they solve the issues quickly, so no real complaints.

I think the biggest problem for both Verizon (at least back in the day) and Dish was the offshore call center. A few years back, Dish used to have a separate channels for the HD feeds of the regional sports networks. So basically, your regional sports network would be on Channel 137 in SD all day.  During game time, you could tune to channel 837 to watch the game in HD.  Channel 837 would only be "on" during live games.  It was really no big deal, but at least 3 or 4 times a week the HD feed for the Dodgers games wouldn't come on until the middle of the game.  Since I was paying $10 a month for HD, I figured I'd call one day to see what the heck was up.  Got Indian tech dude, he didn't understand my issue. Had me restart receiver, etc (I didn't, but I played along).  My contract was up and I was looking to go to Direct anyhow (they were running that free Sunday Ticket deal at the time).  A couple of days after canceling (and DTV was already installed), retention guy called me, I told him the story.  He was like "Oh yeah, that's a bandwidth issue during the baseball season."

The first time I had Dish, the customer service was fantastic.  If you called with any issues, things were solved and all of the customer service folks were friendly and helpful.
 
2014-05-20 05:15:59 PM  

Mikey1969: Diogenes: And CenturyLink isn't even specifically listed.  Probably because they don't have wide coverage yet.

I'm moving at the end of the month and will have to leave that behind.  It's really too bad because I have nothing but good things to say about them.

I have NOTHING good to say about them. I had their service for 3 days in January. I STILL Regularly have to call them to get bills to stop, or to get my DirecTV turned back on because I tried to bundle, and they still won't release my account.

We decided to try service back in January. Something about the description made me ask if it was a DSL line, I got repeatedly told no. "It's fiber!".
So my DSL service gets hooked up and the first issue comes up. The house is a rental, and the phone lines are jacked. I finally found one phone jack that worked out in the garage. 3 or 4 days later, I've done multiple tests, the speed is actually slightly slower, and I'm going to have to either talk my landlords into calling out an electrician, doing it my self, or leaving my modem out in the dirty garage.

I call Centrury Link, they seem really helpful, I send everything back, and go on about my business.

IN April, my TV gets shut off, I call DirecTv, they tell me to call Century Link. I call them, and spend an hour explaining that I haven't had CL service since January, I had originally had my DTV bundled, but that was supposed to get released back to DTV back in January. Finally, I convince them that I am no longer a customer and get(another) confirmation code and find out that they don't have anyone in billing past 6 pm.

I find a CenturyLink office on Saturday, go in and find out that they can't do a farking thing because there aren't any people in billing after 6 pm or on weekends.

Monday, I FINALLY get someone and have to go through the whole farking spiel again, especially becaus ethey are NOW having trouble finding my goddam account.

3 weeks later(About a week a and a half ago), my TV goes off AGAIN. Same thi ...


I haven't tried TV through them. I just pay them 40 bucks a month for decent internet and I'm fairly happy with that.
 
2014-05-20 05:19:14 PM  

dj_spanmaster: She'll get over it.


She's already about 50% Hulu already and she's more of a skinflint than I am. All I had to do was mention that we seemed to be paying a lot for something we hardly used and she started looking into how to get what she wanted without paying the cable company.
 
2014-05-20 05:20:57 PM  

TheMega: SuddenLink



 I'm glad you're having a mostly good experience with them so far.  I hope that continues.  As for me, here in central Texas, SuddenLink has been THE WORST.  Over the last 14 years I've dealt with Comcast, Time Warner, AT&T and SuddenLink, and SL is hands down the worst one I've dealt with.  They are way overcharging us for a way underperforming service.  Our signal is incredibly weak about half the time, and they are always having service outages in our area.  Like, once a week.  If a squirrel sneezes in the direction of some of their infrastructure I swear it knocks it offline.  And their customer service has been a joke whenever we try to address any of these issues.  U-verse is expanding into our area soon, and I'm anxiously awaiting the opportunity to switch.

Bah humbug!
 
2014-05-20 05:28:40 PM  

insertsnarkyusername: I haven't tried TV through them. I just pay them 40 bucks a month for decent internet and I'm fairly happy with that.


I only did the TV through them because I already had DirecTV and they offered bundling. Never again. Too hard to unlink an account. I may have to kidnap family members or something.
 
2014-05-20 05:35:39 PM  

Jayberrysparklesalot: Uhh, I'm not sure that is right.....The G4 channel was all about gadgets, computers, and video gaming. That one went away in the first few months of 2013.The GQ channel is about fashion and the upscale lifestyle for men, I think. I don't watch it, but based on the magazine.....I assume it will be similar. Not 100% sure about it, though./ my new fave network is El Ray by Robert Rodriguez. Old Shaolin style karate flicks, sci-fi movies, action/horror grind house movie Fridays, and the X Files & Dark Angel series.....just awesome!



Sorry it wasn't GQ, it was esquire and it looks like that was canceled
I kind of stopped watching G4 when it seemed to be nothing but Cops reruns
Sort of like when I stop watching food network because it seems to only air diners drive ins and dives
Robert Rodrigez has a network? Awesome
 
2014-05-20 05:51:19 PM  

LoneCraneFullMoon: TheMega: SuddenLink


 I'm glad you're having a mostly good experience with them so far.  I hope that continues.  As for me, here in central Texas, SuddenLink has been THE WORST.  Over the last 14 years I've dealt with Comcast, Time Warner, AT&T and SuddenLink, and SL is hands down the worst one I've dealt with.  They are way overcharging us for a way underperforming service.  Our signal is incredibly weak about half the time, and they are always having service outages in our area.  Like, once a week.  If a squirrel sneezes in the direction of some of their infrastructure I swear it knocks it offline.  And their customer service has been a joke whenever we try to address any of these issues.  U-verse is expanding into our area soon, and I'm anxiously awaiting the opportunity to switch.

Bah humbug!


BHell I live by where there were two distinct suddenlink services


the yuppie neighborhood service with highspeed internet and tons of channels(which of course I wanted), or the rural service that got 30 channels on the good day


One day there was an outage and the bastards switched our "Rural" service to be half the farking channels on the yuppie service, half as in the exact same channels just whatever the yuppie service got for those locations. They'd been able to farking upgrade my service the whole damn time I'd been asking and they just wouldn't
 
2014-05-20 06:01:47 PM  
I never lived in an area with TWC so I hate Comcan't by default. Back in the early 90s, my local cable provider back in NJ was taken over by them and my service went to shiat. I moved to the midwest in the late 90s and after a few years, they took over the cable provider here. My wife didn't understand my reaction when it was announced, which was a variation of "Ah, crap". She learned why I reacted that way before long.
 
2014-05-20 07:00:57 PM  
My housemates and I hate them all.
But we want internet service.

So we join on a 6 month promo getting us tons of stuff and cancel after the six months.
Then another person signs on then cancels.
Then a third person.

They only seem to check their records for the prior year so as long as we have three different names we can keep it up.

Still waiting for a viable option to the cable or phone company though.   They all suck
 
2014-05-20 07:08:46 PM  

kittyhas1000legs: Jayseauxfocci: wall of text

Dish shouldn't have installed in the first place, but the technician might have been under pressure and didn't want to get hit with a NLOS visit (no line-of-sight). Going through the trees is a major issue with satellite. You MUST HAVE PERFECT line-of-sight or there will be a terrible signal if any. You wouldn't have needed a 75' pole, installing on the roof would probably have been okay. I've seen some dishes on a tripod on a roof to see over trees. Of course, after some years, the trees keep growing and the tripod doesn't.

One of the first things I'm doing when I move next months is putting up a dish to get the national PBS feeds. With patience and line-of-sight you can get a god amount of stuff for free. Just have to worry about those trees. And snow on the dish.


I never had a snow issue, but the dish was on the roof a good 15 feet above ground level. Dish's techs advised it would have to get over "all those trees" pointing at some that are over 50-feet tall. No thanks.
 
2014-05-20 08:03:23 PM  

Monkeyhouse Zendo: I think I'll tell them I'll come back when I can pay for channels individually rather than paying for tiers of crap I will never watch.


You do realize that for every channel you don't watch, there are people who do watch? Unfortunately, a la carte would kill a lot of niche channels, particularly channels geared toward minority and other specialty audiences. Just by using simple math and demographics one can figure out what channels on the dial would instantly vanish, while only those which get the highest viewership stay.

Consider this: the audience for ESPN is mostly white males between 16 and 50. What portion of that group watches BET, or BRAVO, or CCTV, or Lifetime, or NHK Japan or Univision, or ... well, you get the drift. Television would basically be sports, pay tv (HBO, ENCORE, pay-per-view), a movie channel or two (like AMC), the sales channels (HSN, Shop NBC), Nickelodeon and Cartoon Network (if there are kids) and "Ow My Balls". Public TV might survive along with broadcast channels, but that's about it, and only because they're on a different business model.

"Survival of the fittest", which is what a la carte will bring to your dial, does not equal "variety" - which is the only reason why people like me get cable. If that variety were available OTA, cable would be gone in a new york minute. It's not, and I like the idea of tuning into a Japanese samurai movie (in Japanese) or a rerun of "ROOTS" or an old Hannah-Barbera cartoon I haven't seen in 20 years. Not gonna happen with a la carte, because the expensive channels (the ones that will be left) pay for these.
 
2014-05-20 08:07:21 PM  

TIME WARNER IS THE DEVIL

 
2014-05-20 09:22:01 PM  

craigzy: TIME WARNER IS THE DEVIL


Enjoy your time with Comcast.
 
2014-05-20 09:38:18 PM  

orclover: We will never ever ever ever have Google Fiber in Texas because Time Warner has a strangle hold on internet service here. IF you dont like it, farking move.

/EVER


Google Fiber coverage map for Austin

img.fark.net
 
2014-05-20 09:48:30 PM  
At&t and Direct TV busy 69ing each other
 
2014-05-21 12:47:41 AM  

Intrepid00: Jayseauxfocci: Danger Mouse: I'm happy with Dish network.  The Hopper DVR is much better than the older DVR system.

I hate snow on my sat. dish. but that's not thier fault (is it?)

I had Dish Network a long time ago, but there are trees in my neighborhood, and after 4 visits from Dish Network technicians trying to figure out why my HD service would freeze up the entire signal reception so badly that it would not respond to attempts to change the channel, power off, etc., they finally told me I would have to cut down some 50-year-old trees for the signal to be received for HD reliably or I would have o put the dish on a pole that is higher than the highest of those trees.  I told them at that point that I had no intention of installing a 75' pole in my yard or cutting down several trees due to a fault in their product that does not allow for trees and service to simultaneously exist and I canceled Dish and switched to AT&T U-verse.  You could argue that snow and trees are both not their fault, but what they do is expose weaknesses in the service being provided by Dish.  That weakness doesn't exist for other options, so yes, you can buy a house that has no trees around and for making the decision to live near trees, you accept the consequences, but since Dish is not the only option available and they don't care to offer reasonable solutions to that weakness, they just aren't an acceptable option for some people.

AT&T has been an absolute nightmare with at least 6 tech visits in the last year, faulty equipment that AT&T refused to admit was faulty for a while, and billing errors.  Recently canceled TV service again after they tried to raise my bill $50 a month after promotions ended.  I hadn't had TV for 2 years before that and didn't mind it.  I don't have Netflix or Amazon prime and my experience with Hulu hasn't been great either.  Where I live, an antenna isn't an option as I'm in a valley.  I'm fine without live TV.  I'll take it if they make it cheap enough to be worth the problems for the limited amount I watch it, but for even $50 a month over the course of a year, you can buy a lot of DVDs and Blu-Rays for $600 a year.  I own several full TV series and hundreds of movies, and the longer periods of time I go without paying $50 a month for cable, the bigger my collection gets, making the likelihood of my ever paying that again less and less likely.

AT&T, meanwhile, recently sent me an offer to add TV back where I'd be paying $7 more a month for the next year than I was previously, but with them giving me a $250 Visa gift card.  They weren't willing to work with me before I dropped them, but now they're willing to reinstall everything for the TV, eat the shipping of the equipment I just returned to them on their dime, and give me $250 if I pay $7 a month more than I was paying before I dropped them a couple weeks ago.  The math just doesn't seem right to me, and now that I've dropped them again and am not missing it, even that doesn't really mean much to me yet.  Either they have no concept of making good business decisions, didn't think I'd leave again, or are planning some unpleasant itemizing costs that I wouldn't agree to.  The last time they asked me to complete a survey, I gave them something like a 60% satisfaction rating and the only positive comment I had for them was that at least they aren't Comcast, whom I've had before and never want to deal with again.

No matter how much of a wall you write you can't change the laws of physics. Even your mobile phone works better in the winter when the trees don't have leaves.


Understood. I apologize to you and anyone else who suffered through my rant. (Honestly, zero snark intended in that. Was crunched for time and cut said time from edit phase rather than writing. Sorry, all.)

I have no intentions of revising the laws of physics or human nature to meet my needs and fully understand the world doesn't revolve around me. That said, I did pay full price through Dish's aggravation and multiple tech visits of them inconveniencing me to be tied to my home for them to offer no good solution to the problem that their service is not compatible with trees that were visible on first install. So be it. No ill will. I just moved on and thought I'd share in case it helps others. Utilities will be utilities, I guess.
 
2014-05-21 02:32:48 AM  
Isn't there only one major one?  and one major Satellite provider once the Uverse takeover happens?    Maybe we should all start reading books again.
 
2014-05-21 03:39:38 AM  

scottydoesntknow: Am I missing something, or are none of the percentage changes actually correct?


I'm guessing top score is less than 100.
 
2014-05-21 07:56:33 AM  

Jument: All huge corporations suck. Some suck slightly more and some slightly less, but they all suck.


I'm a big fan of Directv.  Fantastic customer service and have no problems giving you introductory rates as long as you call.
 
2014-05-21 08:37:15 AM  

Deucednuisance: Cut the cord in favor of Roku and Smart TV browsing (Netflix, Hulu, etc.) and OTA digital.  Saving about $80/month.  About the only thing I miss is live versions of The Daily Show and Colbert Report.

(And I don't miss them that much.)


Well, you can always watch them a week after they air on the Comedy Central website. Unless maybe now it will only be on that app they want you to download onto an i-pad or smartphone, but that is not good viewing, IMO.
 
2014-05-21 09:01:18 AM  

durbnpoisn: I had Cablevision for many years.  The price kept going up.  Their service was spotty, the signal gave out from time to time.  There were glitches while just watching a regular show.  Their HD was inconsistent.  And here's the kicker - I like to sometimes watch TV on my tablet after everyone else has gone to bed.  They had an app for that.  It worked great on my phone.  My tablet, which is 3 years newer and running a newer version of Android was not supported.  Go figure.  A few months ago, they forced me to upgrade the app on my phone.  Now my phone isn't supported either.  Thanks a lot for that guys!

Now, being an Android developer myself, I know for a fact, there is no friggin excuse for that, other than being lazy.

So I went with FiOS.  They have better signal, better picture, and it's more consistent.  They have more HD.  And they have an app that works 100% on my phone AND my tablet, AND my kid's iPhones.
I also have faster internet speeds, and my bill is about $50 less per month.  And they gave me a $250 gift card.

Suck it Cablevision.


ALL of This!  Except substitute Comcast for Cablevision.   I'm fortunate in that both are available in my area.  Freakin' coont at Comcast had the nerve to say to me when I returned all their hardware that I'd be back.  Nope.  Not anytime soon anyway.
 
2014-05-21 09:09:16 AM  

loonatic112358: Jayberrysparklesalot: Uhh, I'm not sure that is right.....The G4 channel was all about gadgets, computers, and video gaming. That one went away in the first few months of 2013.The GQ channel is about fashion and the upscale lifestyle for men, I think. I don't watch it, but based on the magazine.....I assume it will be similar. Not 100% sure about it, though./ my new fave network is El Ray by Robert Rodriguez. Old Shaolin style karate flicks, sci-fi movies, action/horror grind house movie Fridays, and the X Files & Dark Angel series.....just awesome!


Sorry it wasn't GQ, it was esquire and it looks like that was canceled
I kind of stopped watching G4 when it seemed to be nothing but Cops reruns
Sort of like when I stop watching food network because it seems to only air diners drive ins and dives
Robert Rodrigez has a network? Awesome


Yeah, we get the Esquire network here on Comcast cable, again on two channels (84 & 118) and that has been just a few months now. It has some good syndicated shows I've liked, and a nice original one called Brew Dogs (beer!). They made one brew out of the San Francisco fog they collected by the bay bridge, and then turned it back into a fog (with some vaporizer device) that you breath in to consume. That was a real wild idea!

Oh yeah, that El Ray (means The King) network is very cool! It is on channel 120 digital tier for us here. Its supposed to be Hispanic oriented programming, but in English language. There are soccer games, and core culture stuff (skate board, bmx bike, etc.) and some court show called Texas Justice. I don't watch that really, I just like the old movies & Sci-fi shows.
 
2014-05-21 11:21:38 AM  
Google Fiber coverage map for Austin

Ok apparently you dont understand. Just because their map shows a "projected" release of google fiber, does not mean it is in effect right now. Its where they want to go. Its not operational. It will never be operational. Time Warner will never allow it. Google Fiber has been promised for years now, and its never going to happen. Hell theres a lawsuit about to happen with google and AT&T to stop google from using their poles just to keep it from happening.

give up, its never going to happen. In texas at least.
 
2014-05-21 11:22:14 AM  
img.fark.net

Comcast is the worst company in America


Who did Comcast beat out to become the most hated corporation In America?


* Monsanto
* Koch Industries
* Time Warner Cable
* SallieMae
* Microsoft
* 26 other companies


So "congratulations" to Comcast for winning the race to the bottom.
 
2014-05-21 09:30:26 PM  

orclover: We will never ever ever ever have Google Fiber in Texas because Time Warner has a strangle hold on internet service here. IF you dont like it, farking move.

/EVER


Well that explains Austin... but San Antonio's expatriation from Texas is going to be a bit more difficult to explain.  Some parts of Austin can get Google Fiber and San Antonio is supposed to start in 2015.

Plus they don't have a stranglehold in Texas.  You could always become an imperial subject, join the dark side and get service from the Death Star.
 
2014-05-21 10:36:37 PM  

Jayberrysparklesalot: Oh yeah, that El Ray (means The King) network is very cool! It is on channel 120 digital tier for us here. Its supposed to be Hispanic oriented programming, but in English language. There are soccer games, and core culture stuff (skate board, bmx bike, etc.) and some court show called Texas Justice. I don't watch that really, I just like the old movies & Sci-fi shows.


sounds like what i would expect from a tv station for guys from san antonio
 
2014-05-22 01:55:47 AM  
Cable One recently put the screws to Viacom and dumped ALL Viacom channels from its lineup because Viacom was demanding a steep rate increase from Cable One.

Cable One claims it wasn't able to cut a deal with Viacom to keep just a few of the "better" channels, so it said adios.

I miss Comedy Central some and one or two others a teensy bit, but otherwise, whatever.

The loathsome thing on Cable One's part is that it won't use its "victory" to help out its subscribers. I'm sure it's not paying nearly as much for the replacement channels.
 
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