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(The Epoch Times)   Three-year-old says he was killed with an axe in past life. Nobody believed him until he showed village elders where the body and axe were buried   (theepochtimes.com) divider line 34
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2014-05-19 04:01:16 PM  
16 votes:
A story from a guy who is publicizing a book he wrote about children who are reincarnated, which was supposedly told to him by a doctor who is conveniently dead and published in a newspaper publication for a Chinese cult.

This story just reeks of credibility.
2014-05-19 06:29:15 PM  
9 votes:
So his uncle, the real axe murderer, whispers in this kid's ear where the body, where the axe is and where the patsy is.
2014-05-19 04:12:11 PM  
6 votes:

RexTalionis: A story from a guy who is publicizing a book he wrote about children who are reincarnated, which was supposedly told to him by a doctor who is conveniently dead and published in a newspaper publication for a Chinese cult.

This story just reeks of credibility.


If reincarnation is real, that dead doctor may see this story and come forward to corroborate.
2014-05-19 06:11:38 PM  
4 votes:
He was born with a long, red birthmark on his head. The Druse believe, as some other cultures do, that birthmarks are related to past-life deaths. When the boy was old enough to talk, he told his family he had been killed by a blow to the head with an axe.

I have a birthmark on the side of my knee, probably took an arrow to it.
2014-05-19 09:21:28 PM  
3 votes:
Fracking company CEO comes back as someone who has to drink the water. Now that would be justice.
2014-05-19 07:10:51 PM  
3 votes:

thrasherrr: flemardo: It is clear the child was a murderer in his past life. Only the murderer would know where the body and the axe was buried. The child should pay for his crimes, I think banning him from having chocolate milk and strawberry milk should do it.

FTFY?


Sticking with what I said, once that axe goes deep in your skull you don't know where your body or the murder weapon goes or if the worms that eat you will fart in your body. The killer on the other hand would have the past life knowledge. He's a devious child, blaming an innocent man for his own crimes.
2014-05-19 07:01:02 PM  
3 votes:

untaken_name: JohnnyC: Hearsay is not evidence, it occasionally leads to evidence, but is never the evidence. The entire story could be (and likely is) completely made up. I value evidence... not hearsay.

Do you live in a court of law? If you mother tells you that your aunt said she got a new car, do you demand that she prove it because you can't believe hearsay? If so, you are a douchebag.


No, but if my mother tells me my aunt said she is Jesus Christ, I am going to probably assume that one or both of them has had a psychotic break before leaping to the conclusion that the facts underlying the statement are correct.

Actually I would probably have to assume *I* had the psychotic break, seeing as both my mom and her sister are long dead. But you get the idea: extraordinary claims, and all that
2014-05-19 06:42:48 PM  
3 votes:
It seems in the West, when someone believes they were reincarnated, they always were some famous from history.

It's never "I was a twelve year old stable boy, kicked in the head by an Ox"
2014-05-19 06:29:25 PM  
3 votes:
This was all I needed to see:

"A file photo of a child pointing"
2014-05-19 05:15:02 PM  
3 votes:
Who gets reincarnated in the same town? Or even the same galaxy?
2014-05-19 03:56:44 PM  
3 votes:
This is not as uncommon as some might think.
2014-05-19 07:18:48 PM  
2 votes:
So, if the kid was buried after he was murdered, how would he know where he was buried?
2014-05-19 06:38:16 PM  
2 votes:
I see stupid people.

They're everywhere.

And they don't know they're stupid.
2014-05-19 06:37:23 PM  
2 votes:

Ambivalence: I'm curious if this would be considered "evidence" of reincarnation.  You know, for those who value evidence.


Hearsay is not evidence, it occasionally leads to evidence, but is never the evidence. The entire story could be (and likely is) completely made up. I value evidence... not hearsay.

I have never seen evidence that supports the belief in reincarnation. The closest thing to reincarnation that I can think of is simply the fact that the materials here on Earth are continually being collected and used by forms of life and then later releasing those materials back into the environment to be used again and again. Of course, that isn't anything like what is generally considered "reincarnation"... it's just the closest it comes to existing.
2014-05-20 03:15:11 AM  
1 votes:
As someone who believes reincarnation is probable in a complex non-traditional way...I think you have to scrutinize every case of past remembrances, almost to the point of assuming they are mistaken to just outright lying etc.. This kid could have been coached by a family member (maybe the actual murder!). How would he know where the murderer buried the axe?
2014-05-20 12:27:47 AM  
1 votes:
About 10 years ago, I was driving through the countryside near home (UK, South coast), when my 4 year old son suddenly pointed and said "You see that farm over there - that's where I used to look after the horses". It kinda freaked out me and the Mrs at the time.

...he does have a large birthmark on his arm and back.
2014-05-20 12:07:54 AM  
1 votes:

Itstoearly: If this kid was reincarnated, I could understand him able to point out his past-life killer.  But how the fark would he know where the killer buried his body?


Good question. And the answer is gruesome. He was still alive when he was buried!
2014-05-19 11:17:13 PM  
1 votes:

GRCooper: So, if the kid was buried after he was murdered, how would he know where he was buried?


Itstoearly: If this kid was reincarnated, I could understand him able to point out his past-life killer.  But how the fark would he know where the killer buried his body?


My first thought was how would he know where the axe was buried, unless, you know, the killer buried it before killing the kid and oh shiat i've just divided by z+++CARRIER LOST+++
2014-05-19 09:32:09 PM  
1 votes:
Only Unlikely because Subby seems to be a close minded retard.
2014-05-19 08:16:11 PM  
1 votes:

untaken_name: JohnnyC: Hearsay is not evidence, it occasionally leads to evidence, but is never the evidence. The entire story could be (and likely is) completely made up. I value evidence... not hearsay.

Do you live in a court of law? If you mother tells you that your aunt said she got a new car, do you demand that she prove it because you can't believe hearsay? If so, you are a douchebag.


You know another type of douchebag? People who make terrible comparisons and expect people to recognize their brilliance.
2014-05-19 08:06:30 PM  
1 votes:
If this kid was reincarnated, I could understand him able to point out his past-life killer.  But how the fark would he know where the killer buried his body?
2014-05-19 07:54:24 PM  
1 votes:
I could be wrong here, but it doesn't seem a stretch to imagine that it's a relatively small community (if the kid knew where it happened he likely lived near enough), that the murder was suspected, that the murderer was suspected, the location of the body may have been known (by some people), and that these suspicions were either subtly or not so subtly passed to the boy who revealed them as his own information.  That could fit the facts without requiring magic.
2014-05-19 07:46:44 PM  
1 votes:

StokeyBob: People aren't just born, they are a continuation of life. I think many of us remember past things and then about three we go through a wiping of past memories.

Though I would expect him to be a direct descendant of himself to remember these things.

Think about all the memories a young chicken has locked up in the two cells from its parents. Even separated at birth they can go on to know to peep, peck , scratch, and a whole life full of other things and at one point it was all contained in just two cells.


Huh? Wut? WTF? Whachoo talking about, Willis? Get the eff out of here.

/sorry about your Asperger's syndrome
2014-05-19 07:33:56 PM  
1 votes:
People aren't just born, they are a continuation of life. I think many of us remember past things and then about three we go through a wiping of past memories.

Though I would expect him to be a direct descendant of himself to remember these things.

Think about all the memories a young chicken has locked up in the two cells from its parents. Even separated at birth they can go on to know to peep, peck , scratch, and a whole life full of other things and at one point it was all contained in just two cells.
2014-05-19 07:30:16 PM  
1 votes:

JohnnyC: untaken_name: JohnnyC: Hearsay is not evidence, it occasionally leads to evidence, but is never the evidence. The entire story could be (and likely is) completely made up. I value evidence... not hearsay.

Do you live in a court of law? If you mother tells you that your aunt said she got a new car, do you demand that she prove it because you can't believe hearsay? If so, you are a douchebag.

My mother telling me that my aunt said she got a new car is not an extraordinary claim, I can safely believe that my mother is accurate and even if she isn't and I find out later that my aunt didn't buy a new car it isn't like the idea was fundamental to my world view. If, however, my mother claimed that my aunt made a new car appear just by wishing for it... that would be an extraordinary claim that I would need some really solid evidence to even consider believing. Claiming reincarnation is true is also an extraordinary claim that I'm going to need a lot more than hearsay to believe.

Also... the word hearsay isn't only used in court. Seems a lot simpler to say, "that's hearsay", than, "that's information received from other people that cannot be adequately substantiated". Of course you might not be into the whole brevity thing.


You're mother saying that your aunt got a new car is not proof, and is hearsay. However you can choose to believe hearsay. That doesn't make it proof.

People rely on trusted hearsay all the time for things that do not require proof (like your aunt's new car).

If I asked you if you had proof that your aunt got a new car and your only response was that your mother had told you so, I would conclude that you did not have proof.

This is really not that difficult.
2014-05-19 07:20:43 PM  
1 votes:
As a "no one gives a crap" aside, the whole "Extraordinary claims requires blah blah blah..." quote came from Marcello Truzzi who disliked pseudoskepticism, which is the vast majority of people seem to practice nowadays.
2014-05-19 07:09:14 PM  
1 votes:

untaken_name: JohnnyC: Hearsay is not evidence, it occasionally leads to evidence, but is never the evidence. The entire story could be (and likely is) completely made up. I value evidence... not hearsay.

Do you live in a court of law? If you mother tells you that your aunt said she got a new car, do you demand that she prove it because you can't believe hearsay? If so, you are a douchebag.


I've seen people get new cars before.  I know it is possible.  If you prove to me that reincarnation in general is possible, and as common and ordinary as someone buying a new car, then I wouldn't question it if you said your aunt was reincarnated.
2014-05-19 07:04:59 PM  
1 votes:

gilgigamesh: untaken_name: JohnnyC: Hearsay is not evidence, it occasionally leads to evidence, but is never the evidence. The entire story could be (and likely is) completely made up. I value evidence... not hearsay.

Do you live in a court of law? If you mother tells you that your aunt said she got a new car, do you demand that she prove it because you can't believe hearsay? If so, you are a douchebag.

No, but if my mother tells me my aunt said she is Jesus Christ, I am going to probably assume that one or both of them has had a psychotic break before leaping to the conclusion that the facts underlying the statement are correct.

Actually I would probably have to assume *I* had the psychotic break, seeing as both my mom and her sister are long dead. But you get the idea: extraordinary claims, and all that


So, in your mind, "evidence" only applies to claims you don't believe? That must be a weird world to be in. The poster I responded to did not qualify the statement that "I value evidence, not hearsay". Or perhaps you are unaware that evidence is evidence, regardless of the situation. Also, I believe you are conflating evidence with proof.
2014-05-19 06:56:50 PM  
1 votes:
I read about a doctor in India doing this as well.
I suspect these doctors are some of the worlds more prolific serial killers
They travel around offing folks, swing back through town a few years later, mess with impressionable kids and get the murder pinned on someone else.

devious.
2014-05-19 06:53:15 PM  
1 votes:

JohnnyC: Hearsay is not evidence, it occasionally leads to evidence, but is never the evidence. The entire story could be (and likely is) completely made up. I value evidence... not hearsay.


Do you live in a court of law? If you mother tells you that your aunt said she got a new car, do you demand that she prove it because you can't believe hearsay? If so, you are a douchebag.
2014-05-19 06:47:50 PM  
1 votes:
*sniff*sniff*
www.redi-gro.com
2014-05-19 06:47:20 PM  
1 votes:

Rent Party: JoieD'Zen: This is not as uncommon as some might think.

Finding a buried body in the Golan Heights?


Hey now, you geocache your way and I'll do it my way.
2014-05-19 05:45:14 PM  
1 votes:
I'm convinced this is true, because the killer's face "turned white" when confronted with the evidence, according to the article. Brown people trying to get away with murder.
2014-05-19 05:08:32 PM  
1 votes:

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Axe Body Spray claims another victim.


Gruesome. That shiat is NSFW!
 
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