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2014-05-19 02:17:03 PM  
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2014-05-19 02:20:17 PM  
I thought it was Dollar General, or Fred's.
 
2014-05-19 02:25:56 PM  

BizarreMan: I thought it was Dollar General, or Fred's.


That's FoxNews and MSNBC, respectively.
 
2014-05-19 03:40:38 PM  

make me some tea: BizarreMan: I thought it was Dollar General, or Fred's.

That's FoxNews and MSNBC, respectively.


MSNBC: Liberal
FoxNews: Conservative
CNN: Infotainment
 
2014-05-19 03:47:52 PM  
TV news is not journalism.
 
2014-05-19 03:50:28 PM  

Gunny Highway: make me some tea: BizarreMan: I thought it was Dollar General, or Fred's.

That's FoxNews and MSNBC, respectively.

MSNBC: Liberal
FoxNews: Conservative
CNN: Infotainment


Biases aside, they're still mostly sugar-high junk food compared to serious news organizations.
 
2014-05-19 03:52:33 PM  

make me some tea: Gunny Highway: make me some tea: BizarreMan: I thought it was Dollar General, or Fred's.

That's FoxNews and MSNBC, respectively.

MSNBC: Liberal
FoxNews: Conservative
CNN: Infotainment

Biases aside, they're still mostly sugar-high junk food compared to serious news organizations.


Agreed.  CNN is Jolt while MSNBC and Fox are Pepsi and Coke

/or something
 
2014-05-19 04:53:02 PM  
I dunno. You can occasionally get something useful out of a Wal-Mart.
 
2014-05-19 05:10:46 PM  

make me some tea: BizarreMan: I thought it was Dollar General, or Fred's.

That's FoxNews and MSNBC, respectively.


Fox News is more like the Amy's Baking Company of journalism.
 
2014-05-19 05:12:09 PM  
Walmart is successful at what they do.
 
2014-05-19 05:13:13 PM  
No, Fox is the Wal Mart. CNN is the Target. The colors even match.
 
2014-05-19 05:14:30 PM  

Pocket Ninja: I dunno. You can occasionally get something useful out of a Wal-Mart.


Occasionally we get something useful out of CNN, too. We've had many Fark threads about them, for example. Presumably that entertained one or two people.
 
2014-05-19 05:15:02 PM  
The Raw News is the Phyllis Schlafely of totally inaccurate, baseless, and incompetent comparisons.
 
2014-05-19 05:15:55 PM  
FARK is the Chuck E. Cheese of news aggregation.
 
2014-05-19 05:16:28 PM  
Chief O'Brien came back in time to watch CNN?
 
2014-05-19 05:17:16 PM  
Most people at a WalMart are smarter than Wolf Blitzer.
 
2014-05-19 05:17:18 PM  
Cheap, mass produced crap?

Yeah, sounds right.
 
2014-05-19 05:17:18 PM  
As the interview began, O'Brien joked that CNN fired the unit because they were ignorant of celebrity gossip. "After all, what do we know about the Kardashians?"

The Miles O'Brien *I* know would never make light of the Kardashians.


Chief O'Brien: [referring to Garak] If he thinks he can neutralize the Cardassians, let him try. He'd be doing us all a favor.

Garak: That's the spirit. Why don't you come with me, Chief? Kill a few "Cardies"? It'll be like old times.
 
2014-05-19 05:17:38 PM  
MSNBC = hippy
Fox News = crazy old (racist?) codger
CNN = Fox News reporter
 
2014-05-19 05:17:47 PM  
it's crap but it beats the hell out of Faux.
 
2014-05-19 05:17:55 PM  
Can we quit with the false equivience and actually evaluate things on their own individual merits? Fox and MSNBC are not comparable except in the broadest sense. Fox actively pursues political agendas, and willfully distorts facts or outright lies to serve their narrative, and they deliberatly use a variety of psychologically manipulative tactics similar to those used by cults to break down any trust their viewers might have of other news outlets.

MSNBC has a liberal bias, but high journalistic standards. They also don't cover much (any) hard news, focusing instead on constant political commentary, which is cheaper than hard news and gets better ratings. Fox covers hard news so they can put a spin on and bring the hard news into alignment with their ideological prospective; MSNBC simply presumes that you're already familiar with the primary elements of US and World news, apart from niche issues covered in segments by their commentators.

CNN is potato.
 
2014-05-19 05:21:11 PM  

Gunny Highway: make me some tea: BizarreMan: I thought it was Dollar General, or Fred's.

That's FoxNews and MSNBC, respectively.

MSNBC: Liberal
FoxNews: Conservative
CNN: Infotainment


Meh they're all infotainment.  Cable news is terrible.
 
2014-05-19 05:23:31 PM  
Can CNN just follow Tom Tommorow's lead and just call themselves Action McNewsNetwork already?
 
2014-05-19 05:24:20 PM  
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2014-05-19 05:30:53 PM  

Fart_Machine: Gunny Highway: make me some tea: BizarreMan: I thought it was Dollar General, or Fred's.

That's FoxNews and MSNBC, respectively.

MSNBC: Liberal
FoxNews: Conservative
CNN: Infotainment

Meh they're all infotainment.  Cable news is terrible.


Correct, but you can pretty much predict the narrative:

MSNBC: Here is actual news and a little political insight. Now let's make fun of how stupid the Republicans are, but not in a funny way like the way the Daily Show does it, but in a really joyless, unwatchable way.

Fox News: The president is black. And Evil. And out to get you. And so are liberals. Don't question what our idea of America is, citizen. Just keep buying stuff and blaming other poor people, especially the ones browner than you are.

CNN: "Hey, now that we wasted a year talking about that missing plane, let's see what's "Trending" among 40 year old women who live with more than 8 cats, and go with that. And let's make sure to remove all context or investigative ability in our storylines."

All are crap. Fox and MSNBC are predictable, and suprising as it may sound, MSNBC does do a good job once a month when you link to a cool segment from Maddow or Hayes. CNN is just awful. It's a commercial masquerading as news. It's a flavorless hamburger pulled from the freezer of a 7-11, and microwaved to be barely warm for your enjoyment.
 
2014-05-19 05:31:58 PM  
If CNN is the "Walmart" of news, then HLN (formerly Headline News) must be the "99 Cent Store" of news.
 
2014-05-19 05:32:18 PM  
"What would happen if everyone was an aggregator?" he asked. "Then everybody would just be aggregating each other's aggregations."
 
2014-05-19 05:33:14 PM  
CNN: The most rusted name in news.
 
2014-05-19 05:33:27 PM  
Tyson agreed, saying that the conventional solution means that you get "one person to represent that 5 percent, but then he gets 50 percent of your time."

So they interview a rocket scientist. "Mr NASA guy, you've built a new space station."

They then go, "That's very interesting, But for the sake of balance, we must now turn to Barry who believes the sky is a carpet painted by God. Barry, what do you think of this space station plan?"
 
2014-05-19 05:35:28 PM  
That's not right. Wal-mart's successful at what it does.
 
2014-05-19 05:39:39 PM  
CNN went from national cable news powerhouse to 1/4 step above MSNBC.
 
2014-05-19 05:49:18 PM  
I see we're using the term "journalism" loosely.
 
2014-05-19 05:50:00 PM  
Yet Tyson likes Mythbusters, the WalMart of Science?
 
2014-05-19 05:51:26 PM  

anfrind: make me some tea: BizarreMan: I thought it was Dollar General, or Fred's.

That's FoxNews and MSNBC, respectively.

Fox News is more like the Amy's Baking Company of journalism.



+1 internets.
 
2014-05-19 05:53:13 PM  

cptjeff: Can we quit with the false equivience and actually evaluate things on their own individual merits? Fox and MSNBC are not comparable except in the broadest sense. Fox actively pursues political agendas, and willfully distorts facts or outright lies to serve their narrative, and they deliberatly use a variety of psychologically manipulative tactics similar to those used by cults to break down any trust their viewers might have of other news outlets.

MSNBC has a liberal bias, but high journalistic standards. They also don't cover much (any) hard news, focusing instead on constant political commentary, which is cheaper than hard news and gets better ratings. Fox covers hard news so they can put a spin on and bring the hard news into alignment with their ideological prospective; MSNBC simply presumes that you're already familiar with the primary elements of US and World news, apart from niche issues covered in segments by their commentators.

CNN is potato.


MSNBC's strategy is to get better ratings?
 
2014-05-19 05:56:33 PM  

Mikey1969: Yet Tyson likes Mythbusters, the WalMart of Science?


MythBusters may have its faults, but the show and its hosts do an excellent job of popularizing science.
 
2014-05-19 05:57:54 PM  

Wessoman: MSNBC: Here is actual news and a little political insight. Now let's make fun of how stupid the Republicans are, but not in a funny way like the way the Daily Show does it, but in a really joyless, unwatchable way.

Fox News: The president is black. And Evil. And out to get you. And so are liberals. Don't question what our idea of America is, citizen. Just keep buying stuff and blaming other poor people, especially the ones browner than you are.

CNN: "Hey, now that we wasted a year talking about that missing plane, let's see what's "Trending" among 40 year old women who live with more than 8 cats, and go with that. And let's make sure to remove all context or investigative ability in our storylines."

All are crap. Fox and MSNBC are predictable, and suprising as it may sound, MSNBC does do a good job once a month when you link to a cool segment from Maddow or Hayes. CNN is just awful. It's a commercial masquerading as news. It's a flavorless hamburger pulled from the freezer of a 7-11, and microwaved to be barely warm for your enjoyment.


I would completely agree with that assessment.

I watch PBS Newshour to get my daily news roundup, but most of my current events come occasionally from NPR affiliates and mostly from reading stuff online. I do appreciate the occasional Maddow or Hayes clip when they're talking about something that is insightful, but I avoid the hyperpartisan stuff for the most part, unless it is particularly pertinent for some reason.

I do love me some Daily Show and Colbert though (and Oliver's show is so far pretty good too), that's where I go for lulz.
 
2014-05-19 06:00:15 PM  

dryknife: "What would happen if everyone was an aggregator?" he asked. "Then everybody would just be aggregating each other's aggregations."


Ultimately, that's what I foresee happening down the road, and it's already happening to some degree. I presume there will be new innovations in journalism delivery to fill that void, however, but I'm not optimistic yet.

Interesting discussion on the audio clip, it was definitely worth my time to listen.
 
2014-05-19 06:03:26 PM  

Cletus C.: cptjeff: Can we quit with the false equivience and actually evaluate things on their own individual merits? Fox and MSNBC are not comparable except in the broadest sense. Fox actively pursues political agendas, and willfully distorts facts or outright lies to serve their narrative, and they deliberatly use a variety of psychologically manipulative tactics similar to those used by cults to break down any trust their viewers might have of other news outlets.

MSNBC has a liberal bias, but high journalistic standards. They also don't cover much (any) hard news, focusing instead on constant political commentary, which is cheaper than hard news and gets better ratings. Fox covers hard news so they can put a spin on and bring the hard news into alignment with their ideological prospective; MSNBC simply presumes that you're already familiar with the primary elements of US and World news, apart from niche issues covered in segments by their commentators.

CNN is potato.

MSNBC's strategy is to get better ratings?


Than the alternative of lots of serious hard news all day? Yes, they have substantially better ratings than that alternative.

Commentary is also dirt cheap. And ratings aren't just about the hard numbers- it's also about the market segment. Political commentary is incredibly popular among the political and economic elite, and oddly enough advertisers occasionally find it useful to be able to pitch their stuff on a show like Morning Joe, which serves as essentially a secular, bipartisan religion here in Oz. They only care about the broader audience as far as giving them the broader credibility of having a national audience of whatever size. The vast majority of the viewers they and their advertisers really care about are concentrated in two, perhaps three cities: DC, New York, and because of the huge number and value of political donations, LA.

They're not trying to fill a niche for hard news. The people they're trying to appeal to are already familiar with the hard news. Many of them are intimately involved in making the hard news every day. Those folks are looking for commentary and reaction, they already know the facts.
 
2014-05-19 06:08:22 PM  
You watch MSNBC when you want to see left wingers beat up on the right wing.

You watch FAUX when you want to watch blond people beat up on anything to the left of "URMAGRD HIP HOP BARBQ TAKN UR GUNZ".

You watch CNN when you want to cringe with embarrassment at complete ineptitude.
 
2014-05-19 06:21:00 PM  
You watch CNN for that snarky travel food show.

You don't watch any other network news because Adventure Time is more mature and @midnight is more informative.
 
2014-05-19 06:29:14 PM  
CNN:

Talking heads read news:
Read same four stories over and over; airplane crash, asswipe basketball owner strong bad crazy, Carl Rove's latest prat fall, dogs invented the vacation. 25 minutes of commercials per hour, same 5 over and over like "Humans just fark up 'cause they cut down trees on their neighbor's car." "Getyercockupbigbluepill!" Flo give insurance advice to chump. "Buy gold, the revolution be comin' real soon!"  Buy one of those hosed Chevys with surprise brakes and sudden speedy.

5:30pm....flip over to NBC Evenin' talking head news, shake up some martinis.

End of the day:  Go to Fark and read something. Tor like oatmeals.
 
2014-05-19 06:33:12 PM  
Except you can at least go into a Wal Mart and walk out with some basic essentials.

I just feel embarrassed for CNN whenever I turn them on. They're so obsessed with holograms and multiple talking head segments they probably provide more confusion about the news than they do information. I wouldn't be surprised if watching that channel actually makes people less informed.
 
2014-05-19 06:52:36 PM  

Pocket Ninja: I dunno. You can occasionally get something useful out of a Wal-Mart.


waiting for the walmart trifecta: male employee arrested for stealing a man's wallet after arranging to meet him in the bathroom to give him head on his break, after victim is discovered superglued to the toilet seat...

that being said, cnn "reporting" is kinda becoming "cheap outsourced crap that breaks down after a couple weeks"  so i guess if you need something cheap that works RIGHT NOW, the metaphor works...
 
2014-05-19 06:53:16 PM  
Nonsense, subby, CNN provides a valuable service. They're the live-action coverage of Twitter-based trends.
 
2014-05-19 07:03:06 PM  
In other news, Wal-Mart is announcing the opening of 153 new stores in their Malaysian branch.
 
2014-05-19 07:06:21 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: TV news is not journalism.



its Corporate owned Propaganda protecting Corporate agendas.
 
2014-05-19 07:07:43 PM  
Corporate


News


Network.               Making sure the little people know what to think and how to vote since 1999.  a name you can Trust.
 
2014-05-19 07:09:13 PM  
The best Boobs are on FOX News.


the best Minds are on MSNBC.


and CNN??


the best Eye candy and neat gadgets.  and Fluff.
 
2014-05-19 07:11:08 PM  

Epic Fap Session: Walmart is successful at what they do.



and that is exploit cheap, communist (acc. to CIA.gov) Chinese labor so you don't have to!!
 
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