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(The Raw Story)   Not news: TX teen busted for making a pan of pot brownies. News: he faces 5 years to life if convicted. Fark because under TX law the weight of the brownies, including the flour, cocoa and sugar, all count towards the weight of drugs he "possessed"   (rawstory.com) divider line 176
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2014-05-19 02:50:05 PM
I saw something like this in a documentary where the cops were weighing the confiscated oxycodone / oxycontin and xanax pills and charging people for possessing the total weight of the pill.
 
2014-05-19 03:02:20 PM
I guess that is cop math defined though.
 
2014-05-19 03:07:26 PM
 
2014-05-19 03:08:54 PM
Not that Texas is decriminalizing it tomorrow or anything but, do the fiscal conservatives down there really want to pay to lock someone up for life for something that will eventually not be criminal behaviour?

/or are they all just hypocritical assholes heavily-invested in the private prisons-for-profit system we've created?
 
2014-05-19 03:13:02 PM
Well yeah. When you cut your coke with baby powder they take the whole weight.

The cops arn't going to take the time to sort it out.

Also a drop of acid is the acid plus whatever it was dropped on. A few years back someone got the bright idea to put it on smiley face buttons. 3 drops of acid on three smiley face buttons adds up to major time.
 
2014-05-19 03:16:58 PM
They do the same thing with LSD.  It's a great way to turn a harmless drug user into a hard core convict.
 
2014-05-19 03:20:11 PM

SquiggsIN: Not that Texas is decriminalizing it tomorrow or anything but, do the fiscal conservatives down there really want to pay to lock someone up for life for something that will eventually not be criminal behaviour?


It depends on whether this is a Mexican person, a brown person, or a Real Murican we're talking about.
 
2014-05-19 03:20:37 PM

Marcus Aurelius: They do the same thing with LSD.  It's a great way to turn a harmless drug user into a hard core convict.


Never, ever sell sugarcubes.  Blotter only, baby.
 
2014-05-19 03:37:44 PM

SquiggsIN: Not that Texas is decriminalizing it tomorrow or anything but, do the fiscal conservatives down there really want to pay to lock someone up for life for something that will eventually not be criminal behaviour?

/or are they all just hypocritical assholes heavily-invested in the private prisons-for-profit system we've created?


I'm going to go with the second answer, Bob.
 
2014-05-19 03:37:59 PM
GOOD!!!

"Five years to life?" said Joe Lavoro (the father). "I'm sorry. I'm a law-abiding citizen. I'm a conservative.
WELL DUMBASS, like all the other pretend conservatives, you think the penalties are FINE when it is a brown person going to prison for life.
BUT not my little SNOWFLAKE!!!!
Throw the book at this kid! Give him a life sentence!!! Show those conservatives that justice is blind and equal.

Ever notice how UNFAIR the laws are to conservatives, when those laws come back to bite them?
fark EM
 
2014-05-19 03:38:25 PM

SquiggsIN: Not that Texas is decriminalizing it tomorrow or anything but, do the fiscal conservatives down there really want to pay to lock someone up for life for something that will eventually not be criminal behaviour?

/or are they all just hypocritical assholes heavily-invested in the private prisons-for-profit system we've created?


It's Texas, so the fiscal conservatives would prefer to take him out around back of the courthouse and shoot him.
 
2014-05-19 03:38:34 PM
I seem to remember a lawyer getting charges reduced in court by picking out stems and seeds, but that might be apocryphal.
 
2014-05-19 03:38:54 PM

SquiggsIN: Not that Texas is decriminalizing it tomorrow or anything but, do the fiscal conservatives down there really want to pay to lock someone up for life for something that will eventually not be criminal behaviour?

/or are they all just hypocritical assholes heavily-invested in the private prisons-for-profit system we've created?


The second one. While at the same time being "tough on crime".

/locking up people a long time for what shouldn't even be a crime makes big bucks for the companies that lobby these politicians
//plus these politicians who are "tough on crime" seem to love keep putting brown people in there
 
2014-05-19 03:39:06 PM
Reminds of this COPS episode where the cop was saying "I am trying to help you." as he rearranged the weed baggie so none of it was hanging off the scale. Get that fraction of plastic on there. Get that weight up to help. Good job.
 
2014-05-19 03:39:44 PM
Why aren't this kid's extended family, friends, and friends' extended families getting ready to storm the jail and free him?

Not trolling, serious question.
 
2014-05-19 03:43:25 PM
I feel so much safer now.
 
2014-05-19 03:44:11 PM
And this, children, is why we use the flimsy foil pans instead of heavy duty pyrex or corningware to bake our pot brownies.
 
2014-05-19 03:44:14 PM
These types of laws are known as "aggregate weight based law" and are the norm. It is certainly the same in my state (not TX). FWIW the reason most states have these laws is expense. The lab fees rack up quickly when one has to test not for the mere presence but the exact quantity of drugs in every sample.
 
2014-05-19 03:45:19 PM

SquiggsIN: Not that Texas is decriminalizing it tomorrow or anything but, do the fiscal conservatives down there really want to pay to lock someone up for life for something that will eventually not be criminal behaviour?

/or are they all just hypocritical assholes heavily-invested in the private prisons-for-profit system we've created?


They'll gladly have him executed instead.
 
2014-05-19 03:45:36 PM
Things like this are why I hope I get jury duty someday so I can be the "NOT GUILTY" nullification guy that keeps someone from major prison time for a minor crime.
 
2014-05-19 03:46:03 PM
Pretty sure that's a federal law meant to punish LSD sellers more harshly since it usually weighs next to nothing.
 
2014-05-19 03:46:35 PM
Is this an example of Republican math?  Because it totally works.  Said it before,will say it again:  Fark needs a Texas tag.
 
2014-05-19 03:46:45 PM

namatad: GOOD!!!

"Five years to life?" said Joe Lavoro (the father). "I'm sorry. I'm a law-abiding citizen. I'm a conservative.
WELL DUMBASS, like all the other pretend conservatives, you think the penalties are FINE when it is a brown person going to prison for life.
BUT not my little SNOWFLAKE!!!!
Throw the book at this kid! Give him a life sentence!!! Show those conservatives that justice is blind and equal.

Ever notice how UNFAIR the laws are to conservatives, when those laws come back to bite them?
fark EM


Jesus Christ, he actually said 'I'm a conservative'. Throw the book at him, and send his father the farking bill.
 
2014-05-19 03:47:18 PM
And they were in the glove compartment of his F-150, so add 5,295 lbs.
 
2014-05-19 03:47:59 PM

worlddan: These types of laws are known as "aggregate weight based law" and are the norm. It is certainly the same in my state (not TX). FWIW the reason most states have these laws is expense. The lab fees rack up quickly when one has to test not for the mere presence but the exact quantity of drugs in every sample.


Which is totally logical. Why rack up huge expensive lab fees when we can use that money to house this hardened criminal and keep our children safe from pot brownies.

THINK OF THE CHILDREN!

/the law is stupid
 
2014-05-19 03:48:01 PM
OK, so if we follow that to its logical conclusion...

If I were to eat the pot brownies, I would then be said to be in possession of 230 lbs. of pot?

/On the plus side, my street value would be off the charts, insane.
 
2014-05-19 03:48:22 PM
Its not just texas. Every place has laws like that.
 
2014-05-19 03:49:04 PM
Is he being tried in Travis or Williamson county?
 
2014-05-19 03:49:30 PM
This is ridiculous.
Why do people live in Texas anyhow?

Anderson's Pooper: And this, children, is why we use the flimsy foil pans instead of heavy duty pyrex or corningware to bake our pot brownies.


Or, we live in a state that is reasonable about marijuana.

deeproy: SquiggsIN: Not that Texas is decriminalizing it tomorrow or anything but, do the fiscal conservatives down there really want to pay to lock someone up for life for something that will eventually not be criminal behaviour?

/or are they all just hypocritical assholes heavily-invested in the private prisons-for-profit system we've created?

I'm going to go with the second answer, Bob.


THIS.

they're done this with grow operations too and weighed the stems, roots, and sometimes the soil. BS.

/DAILY RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE
 
2014-05-19 03:49:44 PM
I have a couple of grams of weed in my.... HOUSE. Oh my god, I am farked.
 
2014-05-19 03:50:27 PM
Yep.  All packaging is included in the weight.
 
2014-05-19 03:51:32 PM
Do you have to be retarded to live in Texas or is there some surgery they perform after you move there?
 
2014-05-19 03:51:59 PM
This isn't exactly new, I wouldn't imagine.  When a scheduled substance is "cut" with something else, I can't imagine the police going to the trouble of estimating the amount of actual scheduled chemical present.  ...so they just draw the line arbitrarily (i.e., if the cocaine is diluted with sugar, then weigh both -- but if that mixture is contained within a bottle or bag, lets weigh that too, etc., etc.).  Where they stop counting legal & inert ingredients as contraband is just arbitrary.
 
2014-05-19 03:52:03 PM
The kid's defense attorney should take it to a jury and emphasize the inaneness of the law.  They'd most likey sentence the kid to a couple of years probation if they didn't aquit him.
 
2014-05-19 03:52:20 PM

JoieD'Zen: This is ridiculous.
Why do people live in Texas anyhow?


Too dumb to live in a more enlightened community.
So they just lump together like tumbleweeds in a ditch waiting for a discarded cigarette.
 
2014-05-19 03:52:31 PM

mrmopar5287: Things like this are why I hope I get jury duty someday so I can be the "NOT GUILTY" nullification guy that keeps someone from major prison time for a minor crime.


This is probably a better place to put the comment I made in an earlier thread. If, as a member of a jury, you believe the punishment doesn't suit the crime find not guilty.

Although this is raw story, so it's probably mostly bullshiat. Even if the threat was made, I'll bet the kid takes the plea and does no time. Then again, Texas, so who knows.
 
2014-05-19 03:52:34 PM
But mostly because.......it's farking Texas.
 
2014-05-19 03:52:42 PM

SquiggsIN: Not that Texas is decriminalizing it tomorrow or anything but, do the fiscal conservatives down there really want to pay to lock someone up for life for something that will eventually not be criminal behaviour?

/or are they all just hypocritical assholes heavily-invested in the private prisons-for-profit system we've created?


My best friend works for the Texas Prison System, and the system is a For Profit Entity. The more people they lock up, the more money they make. This is why pot will NEVER be decriminalized in Texas, it's a quick and easy crime to charge people with to make more money.
 
2014-05-19 03:52:48 PM

ajgeek: Which is totally logical. Why rack up huge expensive lab fees when we can use that money to house this hardened criminal and keep our children safe from pot brownies.

THINK OF THE CHILDREN!


No, it has nothing to do with the children and it never did. The biggest supporters of the war and drugs are the same people who oppose drug legalization--that be prison unions. Most drug laws are basically make work jobs for the poor. This is why we are now getting silly proposals to sentence "Obamacare cheats" (god I love phrase) to prison in order to fill up those prison cells so no one loses their jobs.
 
2014-05-19 03:54:02 PM
Just think. If this kid was from a filthy stinking rich family in Texas, he could have even put cyanide into those brownies and got away with it scot-free.
 
2014-05-19 03:54:31 PM

CruiserTwelve: Meanwhile in Colorado


Seriously.  And the world has yet to spin off it's axis, and brimstone has yet to smite Breckenridge.
 
2014-05-19 03:55:07 PM

JoieD'Zen: THIS.

they're done this with grow operations too and weighed the stems, roots, and sometimes the soil.


Technically, it's "marijuana" that's scheduled (IIRC) -- not THC itself -- so counting the entire plant seems pretty legit.  Every part of the plant is cannabis.
 
2014-05-19 03:56:21 PM
I know one of the worst things you can do with a powdery drug is dump it in water, as they'll count the entire weight of the solution.

Dump a gram of cocaine in 10 gallons of water and you're charged with possession of about 80 pounds of cocaine.
 
2014-05-19 03:56:46 PM
People who have been busted for blotter acid have been charged with "possession" of the weight of the paper it was printed on.
 
2014-05-19 03:57:21 PM

Dragonflew: I have a couple of grams of weed in my.... HOUSE. Oh my god, I am farked.


I guffawed.
 
2014-05-19 03:57:39 PM

fireclown: CruiserTwelve: Meanwhile in Colorado

Seriously.  And the world has yet to spin off it's axis, and brimstone has yet to smite Breckenridge.


Actually this idiot would still be locked away and facing serious food tamper laws too
 
2014-05-19 03:57:44 PM

namatad: GOOD!!!

"Five years to life?" said Joe Lavoro (the father). "I'm sorry. I'm a law-abiding citizen. I'm a conservative.
WELL DUMBASS, like all the other pretend conservatives, you think the penalties are FINE when it is a brown person going to prison for life.
BUT not my little SNOWFLAKE!!!!
Throw the book at this kid! Give him a life sentence!!! Show those conservatives that justice is blind and equal.

Ever notice how UNFAIR the laws are to conservatives, when those laws come back to bite them?
fark EM


You think this 19 year old kid should get a life sentence because there is racial injustice in other areas of the law?  You think that balances things out, do ya?  You farking mouth-breathing, window-licking racist.  White people would be just as outraged if this kid was black, or asian, or mexican.

Your hate blinds you.  DIAF.
 
2014-05-19 03:57:47 PM
Makes me wonder why one of the Texas cops didn't eat a tiny piece of brownie.  Then, by their logic, they could have gotten the kid for 350 lbs. of pot.  I know, that's overkill since apparently you can put a teenager in a cage for the rest of his life for the heinous, unforgivable atrocity of having a little harmless fun.  fark this spineless, hypocritical nation and double fark the backward-ass gawd's coontry known as Texas (not to mention the SPED helmet that is Oklahoma).
 
2014-05-19 03:58:18 PM

Dog Welder: It's Texas, so the fiscal conservatives would prefer to take him out around back of the courthouse and shoot him.


No, they'd like to turn him loose and encourage him to start a pot brownie business and then tax his non-corporate income.
 
2014-05-19 03:58:21 PM

olddinosaur: People who have been busted for blotter acid have been charged with "possession" of the weight of the paper it was printed on.


Yeah, but it is a poorly written law.
 
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