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(The Wire)   Home Depot founder who compared Obama to Hitler, then apologized for comparing Obama to Hitler, now compares Obama to Hitler again   ( thewire.com) divider line
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2014-05-19 02:46:11 PM  

yakmans_dad: Corvus: It's actually ok to learn from history.

Here's 2 things to learn from history.

1) Every historical moment is not prelude to another Weimar.
2) Every historical moment is not prelude to another Weimar.


Here's one thing to learn from logic:
1) Not Every historical moment is not prelude to another Weimar.  is what you were trying to write.  What you wrote is that no historical moment is prelude to another Weimar...not a single one.
 
2014-05-19 02:48:49 PM  

yakmans_dad: Corvus: It's actually ok to learn from history.

Here's 2 things to learn from history.

1) Every historical moment is not prelude to another Weimar.
2) Every historical moment is not prelude to another Weimar.


Exactly where did I say it was? Oh, I know, no where did I say that at all. You instead of wanting to actually discuss the point I was making wanted to instead make a bullshiat strawman by deleting the actual context of what I actual said and represent it as some BS strawman to try to think yourself clever.
 
2014-05-19 02:48:51 PM  
I know someone who believes that America's greatest achievement was defeating fascism.  That may be true, but Americans seem to be hell bent on forgetting the lessons learned before the WWII generation even gone.  Ask 20 people on the street to explain the differences between American liberalism, fascism, communism and European socialism and you'll get 15 blank stares and a mountain of nonsense.
 
2014-05-19 02:49:40 PM  

whidbey: Truther: DubtodaIll: Am I missing something? Obama isn't even mentioned in the article except in the headline.  The guy's quote was about how bad things can happen in a democracy because that's how Hitler got elected.  He seems to have a point about being vilified if he can't even mention recent history without being lambasted for knowing history.

Fark Progressives won't respond to this.  They have a hard time with facts.

Truther: DubtodaIll: Am I missing something? Obama isn't even mentioned in the article except in the headline.  The guy's quote was about how bad things can happen in a democracy because that's how Hitler got elected.  He seems to have a point about being vilified if he can't even mention recent history without being lambasted for knowing history.

Fark Progressives won't respond to this.  They have a hard time with facts.

Actually, his remarks were aimed at the current leadership. But you knew that, right?


No, the article doesn't mention that. Here's the original POLITICO quote:

"I hope it's not working," Ken Langone, the billionaire co-founder of Home Depot and major GOP donor, said of populist political appeals. "Because if you go back to 1933, with different words, this is what Hitler was saying in Germany. You don't survive as a society if you encourage and thrive on envy or jealousy."

Read more:  http://www.politico.com/story/2014/03/the-rich-strike-back-104753.htm l #ixzz32BlWG8Ih

Still just seems like an insensitive quote about the political environment.  I see no pointed reference to Obama.  It's about the political zeitgeist.  I'm not agreeing with the guy or his stance, but claiming he's comparing Obama to Hitler is inaccurate.
 
2014-05-19 02:52:09 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: Lowes > Home Depot


True but Ace and Aco or any smaller hardware store > Lowes > HD.
 
2014-05-19 02:53:31 PM  

DubtodaIll: Am I missing something? Obama isn't even mentioned in the article except in the headline.  The guy's quote was about how bad things can happen in a democracy because that's how Hitler got elected.  He seems to have a point about being vilified if he can't even mention recent history without being lambasted for knowing history.


Libderpers can't help it.  Facts have a nasty way of getting in the way of the 'he's blah, you're racist if you are rich' agenda.
 
2014-05-19 02:53:38 PM  
No matter how much money you have, you can still be a moron.

Guys like this seem to be demonstrating that the relationship is directly proportional.
 
2014-05-19 02:56:17 PM  
Back in the 30's, what did they compare Hitler to?
 
2014-05-19 02:56:57 PM  

DubtodaIll: Still just seems like an insensitive quote about the political environment.  I see no pointed reference to Obama.  It's about the political zeitgeist.  I'm not agreeing with the guy or his stance, but claiming he's comparing Obama to Hitler is inaccurate.


That's not all of the story here. This is a follow-up:

My statement was that a democratic process could have bad results. You want proof? Go back to 1933. It was horrible results! I was only saying that we are, thank God, a democracy, and when our leaders pit group against group, it's not constructive."

First of all, that's bullshiat. Obama is not "pitting us" against anyone. He has been proposing rather moderate legislation aimed at regulating big business and making the rich pay more taxes, which they should be doing. And democracy? Any amount of Googling shows that other people of privilege agree with this.

This is very much directed at the current administration. Don't split hairs with me.
 
2014-05-19 02:57:22 PM  
Can you even be a US president these days without being compared to Hitler? I think that just comes with the job.
 
2014-05-19 02:58:39 PM  

theorellior: scalpod: It's not like by making specious comparisons we dilute the meaning of our words. Bush is Hitler, Obama'shiatler, apparently everyone is Hitler?

GUYS! GUYS! WE'RE ALL HITLER!

Sorry, I'm Spartacus.


I'm Brian!
 
2014-05-19 02:58:59 PM  

TV's Vinnie: Back in the 30's, what did they compare Hitler to?



A homeless wannabe art student?
 
2014-05-19 03:01:24 PM  

whidbey: My statement was that a democratic process could have bad results. You want proof? Go back to 1933. It was horrible results! I was only saying that we are, thank God, a democracy, and when our leaders pit group against group, it's not constructive."


Hmm I must have missed him coming out against the GOP attacking government unions, gays or immigrants.
 
2014-05-19 03:01:42 PM  
I knew Hitler and Obama's no Hitler.
 
2014-05-19 03:03:02 PM  

TV's Vinnie: Back in the 30's, what did they compare Hitler to?


I dunno. They didn't have the Internet back then.
 
2014-05-19 03:03:15 PM  

Obama's Reptiloid Master: Guys, guys, guys... we can just pelt him with fruit in the public square and take all his assets and nationalize them.


I see what you did there.
 
2014-05-19 03:03:15 PM  
The stock market is at all time highs, the rich are richer than ever before... and still their main beef is that they can't f@ck the poor even more. Thanks to yet another company for making my shopping decisions easier, you can go in the same bin as Papa Johns and Chik Fil A.
 
2014-05-19 03:03:31 PM  
I didn't mean to say she deserved to be raped, just that sometimes, when you dress a certain way, you get raped by Hitler.
 
2014-05-19 03:03:45 PM  

Salmon: fark, too early for that, I can barely count to 3.


showoff
 
2014-05-19 03:04:30 PM  

Truther: DubtodaIll: Am I missing something? Obama isn't even mentioned in the article except in the headline.  The guy's quote was about how bad things can happen in a democracy because that's how Hitler got elected.  He seems to have a point about being vilified if he can't even mention recent history without being lambasted for knowing history.

Fark Progressives won't respond to this.  They have a hard time with facts.


His original statement was.  And this is a retraction of his apology for his original statement.  Therefore it is an affirmation of his original statement that Obama is like Hitler.
 
2014-05-19 03:05:17 PM  

Corvus: whidbey: My statement was that a democratic process could have bad results. You want proof? Go back to 1933. It was horrible results! I was only saying that we are, thank God, a democracy, and when our leaders pit group against group, it's not constructive."

Hmm I must have missed him coming out against the GOP attacking government unions, gays or immigrants.


Well see they had all of that in Nazi Germany--before the crackdown.
 
2014-05-19 03:05:50 PM  

dryknife: What his opinion of Magic Johnson?


Yeah, maybe he can tell us what he knows about the Negro.
 
2014-05-19 03:07:34 PM  

Sin_City_Superhero: I'll compare Obama to Hitler...

Hitler was white. Obama is black.
Hitler was short. Obama is taller.
Hitler had a moustache. Obama is clean-cut.
Hitler had dark hair. SO DOES OBAMA!!!


lulz ^-^ +1funnay
 
2014-05-19 03:08:11 PM  
So, what he was saying was that  Hitler was democratically elected and that although he was comparing Hitler's political messages with Obama's political messages, he was in no way referencing Obama because he didn't say "Obama".  Got it.
 
2014-05-19 03:10:55 PM  

IvyLady: So, what he was saying was that  Hitler was democratically elected and that although he was comparing Hitler's political messages with Obama's political messages, he was in no way referencing Obama because he didn't say "Obama".  Got it.


Which makes him even more of a chickenshiat, really. It's pretty obvious who he was referencing and he couldn't even bring himself to say the actual words.
 
2014-05-19 03:16:40 PM  

IvyLady: So, what he was saying was that  Hitler was democratically elected and that although he was comparing Hitler's political messages with Obama's political messages, he was in no way referencing Obama because he didn't say "Obama".  Got it.


Their messages are identical:

1.  Effective healthcare for the poor
2.  Strong domestic national security
3.  Infrastructure!

So, if you take reality out of the equation, you can see how derpers reach this conclusion.
 
2014-05-19 03:17:38 PM  
They are absolutely nothing alike,
Hitler used ovens,
obama uses drones....
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2014-05-19 03:19:55 PM  

verdigris1:
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2014-05-19 03:20:27 PM  

Cdr.Murdock: whidbey: Sin_City_Superhero: I'll compare Obama to Hitler...

Hitler was white. Obama is black.
Hitler was short. Obama is taller.
Hitler had a moustache. Obama is clean-cut.
Hitler had dark hair. SO DOES OBAMA!!!

Sounds like a punk rock song.

/Ah but punk is dead

[img.fark.net image 850x637]One Saturday I took a walk to Zipperhead
I met a girl there
And she almost knocked me dead
Punk rock girl please look at me
Punk rock girl what do you see?
Let's travel round the world
Just you and me punk rock girl!


Okay, we were wrong. Punk isn't dead. It's just a wee bit cliche and niche, in a thoroughly commercial kinda sense. Wanna buy my limeted edition Che-with-a-mohawk and daiper-pin-in-nose teeshirt? It's got real blood/amphetamine on it from the time a punk puked back up the bomb I sold her.

/only $128!
 
2014-05-19 03:21:37 PM  

born_yesterday: IvyLady: So, what he was saying was that  Hitler was democratically elected and that although he was comparing Hitler's political messages with Obama's political messages, he was in no way referencing Obama because he didn't say "Obama".  Got it.

Their messages are identical:

1.  Effective healthcare for the poor
2.  Strong domestic national security
3.  Infrastructure!

So, if you take reality out of the equation, you can see how derpers reach this conclusion.


Yeah, but Obama's "Final Solution" was just his attempt at the NCAA bracket...
 
2014-05-19 03:22:45 PM  

EyeballKid: There should be some kind of rule that if you're compared to Hitler by the same person three times publicly, you get to treat that person as it would be imagined that Hitler would treat that person. "What? You obviously wanted a President Hitler!"



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2014-05-19 03:23:24 PM  

nitefallz: Do people really think the country's problems started with Obama?  Did everyone forget EVERYTHING prior to the 2008 election when that pretzel-choking doofus was around?


I don't think anyone's forgotten Bill Clintons presidency :)
 
2014-05-19 03:23:45 PM  
Of course Obama is just like Hitler.  Did you see what he did to The bust of Winston Churchill before he expelled it from the White House?!?!
 
2014-05-19 03:24:06 PM  
This guy is single handedly trying to get the wealthy lined up against the wall.
 
2014-05-19 03:26:21 PM  

CanisNoir: nitefallz: Do people really think the country's problems started with Obama?  Did everyone forget EVERYTHING prior to the 2008 election when that pretzel-choking doofus was around?

I don't think anyone's forgotten Bill Clintons presidency :)


A "b-but Clinton" tu quoque? A daring opening move.

But don't let me get in the way of your attempts to discount 8 years of failed Bush policy.
 
2014-05-19 03:26:46 PM  
There is no comparison.  Obama is far more like Hitler than Hitler is to Hitler.  Never seen the Hitler Index?

tinyarena: [img.fark.net image 320x200]

Ah, there it is.
 
2014-05-19 03:26:49 PM  
Pocket Ninja: A lot of people like to dismiss these Obama/Hitler comparisons, but that's only because so many people just do a simple comparison, find no links, and dismiss it outright. They're not looking deep enough, in other words. Even those who attempt to use advanced numerological tools are often frustrated in their efforts. They see no easy link, and as a result cross their arms and say, "this is a stupid comparison." They point out, correctly, that the name Barack Obama has a numerological weight of 5 (individual weights 18 and 14, or 1+8 (9) and 1+4 (5) yielding 14, or 1+4=5), and Adolf Hitler has a value of 11, one of the Master Numbers (20 and 36, 2+0 (2) and 3+6 (9) yielding 11). And while Hitler having a Master Number makes sense, certainly, how does Mr. Obama's 5 relate to that?

Ah, but you are forgetting something. You are forgetting Barack Obama's middle name. Hussein. Value, 32. 3+2=5. Added to the 5 previous, we have 10, for a final value (1+0) of 1. Barack Hussein Obama has a value of 1.

1. And Hitler is 11. Half the value.

Nice touch!
 
2014-05-19 03:26:56 PM  

IvyLady: So, what he was saying was that  Hitler was democratically elected and that although he was comparing Hitler's political messages with Obama's political messages, he was in no way referencing Obama because he didn't say "Obama".  Got it.


Well no, not at all.  It's just silly how eager the left is to have Obama constantly be considered a victim of political slander even in cases where he is not being slandered.  Any and all events where a GOP member or supporter says something vaguely insensitive towards the Democrats are immediately turned in to a direct attack on Obama because they're obviously racist and only hate any of his actions or policies because he's black.  It's ridiculous.  It's not like I can really blame liberals though, it's an effective tool to rile the electorate.
 
2014-05-19 03:27:57 PM  
 "Because if you go back to 1933, with different words, this is what Hitler was saying in Germany."

Hitler: "The Jews have ruined Germany"

Obama: "I think heathcare should be affordable for everyone"

Holy fark, he's right!11!!!!!one!
 
2014-05-19 03:28:49 PM  

DubtodaIll: It's just silly how eager the left is to have Obama constantly be considered a victim of political slander even in cases where he is not being slandered.


So you're just going to ignore what's being pointed out to you in this thread.

M'kay.
 
2014-05-19 03:30:02 PM  

whidbey: CanisNoir: nitefallz: Do people really think the country's problems started with Obama?  Did everyone forget EVERYTHING prior to the 2008 election when that pretzel-choking doofus was around?

I don't think anyone's forgotten Bill Clintons presidency :)

A "b-but Clinton" tu quoque? A daring opening move.

But don't let me get in the way of your attempts to discount 8 years of failed Bush policy.


Bush?  Bush ended our nightmare of prosperity and peace, and not a minute too soon!

/Thank you, Onion
 
2014-05-19 03:32:09 PM  

Johnny_Whistle:  "Because if you go back to 1933, with different words, this is what Hitler was saying in Germany."

Hitler: "The Jews have ruined Germany"

Obama: "I think heathcare should be affordable for everyone"

Holy fark, he's right!11!!!!!one!


Hahahaha.
 
2014-05-19 03:34:55 PM  
Don't be silly, Obama is nothing like Hitler.

Hitler could actually run a federal government.
 
2014-05-19 03:36:37 PM  

randomjsa: Don't be silly, Obama is nothing like Hitler.

Hitler could actually run a federal government.


Yeah there's way too much of your hard-earned tax dollars going to black people. I agree, man.
 
2014-05-19 03:37:55 PM  

KidneyStone: Langone has been on the board of directors for a few companies I've worked at.  He's friendly, funny, and if you didn't know he was filthy rich you wouldn't think he was filthy rich.

I also agree with what he is saying.  "You don't survive as a society if you encourage and thrive on envy or jealousy" and that's exactly what our leadershiat is doing.


I usually don't reply to trolls, but here goes:

Asking everyone to pay their fair share isn't envy, or jealousy.

A closer argument to jealousy or envy is those who want to take social cervices away from those who need it most, because they are "moochers".
 
2014-05-19 03:39:01 PM  

SuperNinjaToad: Marcus Aurelius: This is nothing compared to what he's done to Home Depot.  It should be criminal.

huh? what did he do to HD? As a consumer I like HD. Don;t know anything about the internal politics but then again I shouldn't.

Now Menard's on the the other hand is not very user friendly fro the shopper.


The help in my local store was given surliness injections, and in store services have gone away.  I used to be able to get tiles cut at Home Depot.  I tried last year and the guy in the tile department insisted they had never cut tile, and if I wanted a tile cut, I could, maybe "go find a contractor like everyone else, you moron".

So I went to Lowes and they did it for free.  Home Depot does not like it when I shop at Home Depot, so I don't.
 
2014-05-19 03:41:55 PM  

ongbok: [img.fark.net image 193x261]

Obama Abdul Jabbar

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Obama from the darkest time line


Would the right wing love Mirror Universe Obama?
 
2014-05-19 03:42:35 PM  

whidbey: DubtodaIll: It's just silly how eager the left is to have Obama constantly be considered a victim of political slander even in cases where he is not being slandered.

So you're just going to ignore what's being pointed out to you in this thread.

M'kay.


There are plenty of cases where Obama is directly slandered to get frothy at the mouth over, this is not one of those cases.
 
2014-05-19 03:42:58 PM  

randomjsa: Don't be silly, Obama is nothing like Hitler.

Hitler could actually run a federal government.


Because the German federal government was in such sterling good shape when Hitler left power!
 
2014-05-19 03:43:47 PM  

DubtodaIll: whidbey: DubtodaIll: It's just silly how eager the left is to have Obama constantly be considered a victim of political slander even in cases where he is not being slandered.

So you're just going to ignore what's being pointed out to you in this thread.

M'kay.

There are plenty of cases where Obama is directly slandered to get frothy at the mouth over, this is not one of those cases.


So you're just going to give some stinking rich CEO of a corporation that doesn't pay taxes a free pass over comparing the Obama administration to Nazi Germany?

M'kay.
 
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