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2014-05-19 07:51:32 PM  
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Mikey1969: imgod2u: Doc Batarang: To The Escape Zeppelin!: onzmadi: is it just me or does that seem impossibly large for the size of westeros i mean mostly people just walked i mean only merchants and nobles have horses.
it would take forever to walk from one end to the other.

If it's anything like real history people without horses aren't traveling anywhere. I believe that the average travel speed on horse is 21 miles a day. So it takes 142 days to travel 3000 miles at a leisurely pace and a lot less with a dedicated relay system. Its a huge area but with a centrally located capitol and a lot of local authority that's not an unreasonable administrative area to govern.

In real history, people walked everywhere. It's a persistent myth that has no basis in reality, even in medieval Europe and Asia.

What I actually don't believe is that Westros has a population of 42 million. In the 10th century, the population of Earth was around 310 million and nearly every inhabitable place already had people there. It doesn't seem plausible that even a land area the size of the US could have about 14% of the total population, especially if the weather at northern latitudes is cyclically super screwy ("winter is coming"). There should have been a decrease in population during the last "winter" cycle, and I contend that the total global population of this planet should overall be smaller than Earth's at the same level of social complexity.

I thought I read some place that they weren't on a planet per se. How one can have an atmosphere with no planetary body is largely attributed to "magic". But I think it's implied that there's only Westeros and the eastern lands and nothing beyond that.

Wow, never heard that theory. I've heard that the planet was in a wildly eccentric orbit with more of an axial title than the Earth, which would account for the (seemingly) random seasons, but not one that they weren't on a planet.


Another theory is that it is fiction and there is a certain amount of suspension of disbelief and in fantasy anything can happen.
2014-05-19 12:53:16 PM  
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2014-05-19 11:16:12 PM  
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golden goat: Doc Batarang: I believe that the average travel speed on horse is 21 miles a day.

Uhh, a single person can walk at least that in a single day.  Probably to 30 miles leisurely, if you're in shape.  As long as you don't ride a horse to death, you could potentially go many multiples of that.



Horses need to eat, and that takes HOURS a day of the beastie is eating grass, less if you feed it grains.  All told, someone walking and someone riding end up covering roughly the same distance on really long trips.  The advantage of the horse is speedy portions of the trip if needed, and being able to carry a bunch of stuff along with you, instead of humping it on your back.

The California missions are set up about a day's travel apart, between 20 and 40 miles per section of El Camino Real, if you want to see a real-world example.
2014-05-19 10:11:01 PM  
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Mikey1969: Another theory is that it is fiction and there is a certain amount of suspension of disbelief and in fantasy anything can happen.


No, even fantasy requires a little bit of believability. It's not as a high of a threshold as with good sci-fi, but just slinging a bunch of stuff onto the page and shouting "Fantasy!" is how you end up with Twilight.


What I love about this is that these details are not created by the author, but by the fans. It's cool that they take it so serious. I appreciate that passion in something they love but understand that George R.R. Martin probably didn't map out his solar system when creating his world. His world was created to carry the story of his characters and that is it.

The shape of the orbitalellipse is not a main plot point. The fact that there is non-predictable seasonal cycles is and adds to the mystery and the magic of the fantasy and set the tone of the story.

Whether it is art, fiction, or religion, it is the fans that make the canonical not the creators.

Personally I hate Twilight, but to say that they are against vampire canon is laughable, as there is no canon except what vampire fans have created.

The Song of Ice and Fire is the same way. The official website goes way deeper into character creation than Martin ever wanted to and in some cases it wagged the dog, in that Martin used some of the cartography created by fans in the books' illustrations as well as other story lines.

I guess what I'm saying is enjoy the hell out of it, but take it with wink, tounges, cheeks, and a grain of salt.

/Hard vs. Soft Sci-fi vs. Space opera's are the most  hilarious slap fights
//but less funny than art student interpretations of art and lit
///which is only topped by finding life meaning in pop songs (ok I'm guilty as my wedding vows were Depeche mode lyrics)


2014-05-19 07:38:28 PM  
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Doc Batarang: I believe that the average travel speed on horse is 21 miles a day.


Uhh, a single person can walk at least that in a single day.  Probably to 30 miles leisurely, if you're in shape.  As long as you don't ride a horse to death, you could potentially go many multiples of that.
2014-05-19 07:15:55 PM  
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2014-05-19 01:35:56 PM  
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