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2014-05-19 10:56:49 AM
I'm not sure what I like better about Cosmos.
The fact that it shows how awesome science is.
Or the fact that it drives the fundies nuts.
 
2014-05-19 11:04:37 AM

SilentStrider: I'm not sure what I like better about Cosmos.
The fact that it shows how awesome science is.
Or the fact that it drives the fundies nuts.


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2014-05-19 11:14:52 AM
wait until they get ahold of this week's episode, which reminds everyone that the noah's ark was just one of many flood myths.
 
2014-05-19 11:17:51 AM
was he eating crackers at the time?
 
2014-05-19 11:42:39 AM
I really think that Seth MacFarlane sits at his computer every Sunday night, continually refreshing Answers in Genesis with his dick in his hand.
 
2014-05-19 11:43:34 AM

FlashHarry: wait until they get ahold of this week's episode, which reminds everyone that the noah's ark was just one of many flood myths.


That was a good one. I could hear the screams of the fundies from my living room.
 
2014-05-19 11:48:01 AM

exick: I really think that Seth MacFarlane sits at his computer every Sunday night, continually refreshing Answers in Genesis with his dick in his hand.


The wonderful part of it is, since a lot of it is voice over, they could change the script on the fly if they want if they want to shove a zinger in there to work up further froth.
 
2014-05-19 12:20:13 PM
 
2014-05-19 12:21:54 PM

FlashHarry: wait until they get ahold of this week's episode, which reminds everyone that the noah's ark was just one of many flood myths.

mrwgifs.com

 
2014-05-19 12:22:34 PM

FlashHarry: wait until they get ahold of this week's episode, which reminds everyone that the noah's ark was just one of many flood myths.


Actually, all the other flood stories from around the world are myths; the story of Noah's ark is true.  The other flood stories are just proof the the Biblical flood was true.
 
2014-05-19 12:25:50 PM
Suck it, libs.
i.imgur.com
 
2014-05-19 12:30:11 PM

Muta: FlashHarry: wait until they get ahold of this week's episode, which reminds everyone that the noah's ark was just one of many flood myths.

Actually, all the other flood stories from around the world are myths; the story of Noah's ark is true.  The other flood stories are just proof the the Biblical flood was true.


This.  Especially relevant are the flood "myths" originating thousands of years before teh Old Testament was written...
 
2014-05-19 12:31:12 PM
I'm not sure that "protest" is the same as "sends out a press release."

If I'm understanding this, the fundies couldn't even get together a dozen people to have a prayer in front of the Fox offices in New York.  That would be a protest.

This is more like your drunk uncle briefly getting access to email.
 
2014-05-19 12:33:11 PM
Yawn.
 
2014-05-19 12:34:22 PM

Satanic_Hamster: Suck it, libs.
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Reading that hurts my brain.  Now brain hurt.  Ow.
 
2014-05-19 12:35:04 PM
Hey MacFarlane!  "You're saying that the most compelling thing you can say for your position is that it's not literally illegal to express."  I'm not at all sorry to say that pissing off fundies is doing God's work.

/And doing Her work pleases Her.
//1357, FTW.
 
2014-05-19 12:37:34 PM

SpectroBoy: FlashHarry: wait until they get ahold of this week's episode, which reminds everyone that the noah's ark was just one of many flood myths.[mrwgifs.com image 550x420]


I remember talking to a fundy friend of mine, who said the Bible was literally true because other cultures talked about the flood too.

I asked him how he knew the Bible was the true one, and not one of the others, with the Bible just providing supporting evidence.
 
2014-05-19 12:38:48 PM

Lord Dimwit: SpectroBoy: FlashHarry: wait until they get ahold of this week's episode, which reminds everyone that the noah's ark was just one of many flood myths.[mrwgifs.com image 550x420]

I remember talking to a fundy friend of mine, who said the Bible was literally true because other cultures talked about the flood too.

I asked him how he knew the Bible was the true one, and not one of the others, with the Bible just providing supporting evidence.


And what did he say?
 
2014-05-19 12:38:49 PM
Once there was a little green slab of clay. Gumby!

And that is Creationism in a nutshell.
 
2014-05-19 12:40:41 PM

Satanic_Hamster: Suck it, libs.
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No way...NO WAY. My 8 yr old even has basic concept of where electricity comes from. By the way, Cosmos is a great family show.
 
2014-05-19 12:41:34 PM

anfrind: Lord Dimwit: SpectroBoy: FlashHarry: wait until they get ahold of this week's episode, which reminds everyone that the noah's ark was just one of many flood myths.[mrwgifs.com image 550x420]

I remember talking to a fundy friend of mine, who said the Bible was literally true because other cultures talked about the flood too.

I asked him how he knew the Bible was the true one, and not one of the others, with the Bible just providing supporting evidence.

And what did he say?


Probably something along the lines of the Bible being the word of God so it it correct.
 
2014-05-19 12:46:24 PM
Creationists are retarded people that should just stick to bake sales and molesting things.
 
2014-05-19 12:47:23 PM

eagles95: Satanic_Hamster: Suck it, libs.
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No way...NO WAY. My 8 yr old even has basic concept of where electricity comes from. By the way, Cosmos is a great family show.


It's real.  The fundies are so desperate that they're flat-out denying scientific discoveries from 200 years ago.
 
2014-05-19 12:48:27 PM

question_dj: SilentStrider: I'm not sure what I like better about Cosmos.
The fact that it shows how awesome science is.
Or the fact that it drives the fundies nuts.

[img.fark.net image 400x389]


Because both would be a logical fallacy?
 
2014-05-19 12:49:10 PM

anfrind: Lord Dimwit: SpectroBoy: FlashHarry: wait until they get ahold of this week's episode, which reminds everyone that the noah's ark was just one of many flood myths.[mrwgifs.com image 550x420]

I remember talking to a fundy friend of mine, who said the Bible was literally true because other cultures talked about the flood too.

I asked him how he knew the Bible was the true one, and not one of the others, with the Bible just providing supporting evidence.

And what did he say?


Best guess is that he threw around words like "heretic," "blasphemy," and inserted a phrase of "you're going to Hell you sinner!"
 
2014-05-19 12:49:46 PM

SilentStrider: I'm not sure what I like better about Cosmos.
The fact that it shows how awesome science is.
Or the fact that it drives the fundies nuts.


science fiction will always be more awesome than science because "what might happen?" is infinitely more exciting than "what just happened?".
 
2014-05-19 12:50:43 PM

anfrind: Lord Dimwit: SpectroBoy: FlashHarry: wait until they get ahold of this week's episode, which reminds everyone that the noah's ark was just one of many flood myths.[mrwgifs.com image 550x420]

I remember talking to a fundy friend of mine, who said the Bible was literally true because other cultures talked about the flood too.

I asked him how he knew the Bible was the true one, and not one of the others, with the Bible just providing supporting evidence.

And what did he say?


He knew in his heart that the Bible was true and the others weren't. By definition someone who believes something without logical reason isn't going to be swayed by logic. I generally don't debate anyone over religion anymore unless they're trying to alter public policy or force religion on my children.
 
2014-05-19 12:50:49 PM
Farking birds, how do they work?
 
2014-05-19 12:51:37 PM

CheekyMonkey: Muta: FlashHarry: wait until they get ahold of this week's episode, which reminds everyone that the noah's ark was just one of many flood myths.

Actually, all the other flood stories from around the world are myths; the story of Noah's ark is true.  The other flood stories are just proof the the Biblical flood was true.

This.  Especially relevant are the flood "myths" originating thousands of years before teh Old Testament was written...


In third or fourth grade we had a reading bit about some naive American tribal legend of how a shaman took animals two by two into a high corn stalk. The teacher was trying to steer us into "more evidence of Noah" when I went off the reservation with "native story tellers took a story from missionaries and retold it for locals".

I didn't even know what atheism was. I just knew story telling when I heard it. But throwing out the idea that Noah was a story, just like the native american version, gets you sent to the principal in Texas.
 
2014-05-19 12:51:58 PM

Serious Black: anfrind: Lord Dimwit: SpectroBoy: FlashHarry: wait until they get ahold of this week's episode, which reminds everyone that the noah's ark was just one of many flood myths.[mrwgifs.com image 550x420]

I remember talking to a fundy friend of mine, who said the Bible was literally true because other cultures talked about the flood too.

I asked him how he knew the Bible was the true one, and not one of the others, with the Bible just providing supporting evidence.

And what did he say?

Best guess is that he threw around words like "heretic," "blasphemy," and inserted a phrase of "you're going to Hell you sinner!"


No, in his defense he was very civil and we were good friends.
 
2014-05-19 12:53:26 PM
From my Navy training:

Electricity is the apparent flow of charged particles.

Scary stuff. Not really sure what it is.

I'll stick with high pressure steam. I know what that is.
 
2014-05-19 12:54:26 PM

Muta: Probably something along the lines of the Bible being the word of God so it it correct.


Obligatory...

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2014-05-19 12:56:39 PM
bwhahahahahahaha
gasp
bwahahahaha

oh wait.

These guys are in the halls of power in our country...

And I has a sad.
 
2014-05-19 12:57:37 PM

wildcardjack: But throwing out the idea that Noah was a story, just like the native american version, gets you sent to the principal in Texas.


Can't stories be true, though?
 
2014-05-19 01:05:00 PM

Satanic_Hamster: Suck it, libs.
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My brother is an electrical engineer.  I'll have to show him that.  Good find.
 
2014-05-19 01:07:41 PM

wildcardjack: I didn't even know what atheism was. I just knew story telling when I heard it. But throwing out the idea that Noah was a story, just like the native american version, gets you sent to the principal in Texas.


I grew up in Texas. In (public) school we were given lists of words to define for vocabulary lessons or something. One of the words was "exodus". I defined it as "a large number of people leaving". I also said "in Christian mythology, the departure of the Jews from Egypt" (note that I was too young to properly use a phrase like 'Judeo-Christian').

Anyway, I got a talking to after class for using the phrase "Christian mythology."
 
2014-05-19 01:10:22 PM

meat0918: These guys are in the halls of power in our country...

And I has a sad.


Right? It's all fun and games until you realize these clowns are writing legislation on scientific matters.
 
2014-05-19 01:14:43 PM
'lectricity? We don' need no 'lectricity. God-fearin' types like us don't cotton to no fancy librul scientician hullabaloo.

Now why's muh Netflix not workin' no more? I needs to catch up on them Duggars.
 
2014-05-19 01:17:31 PM
To be fair, they are protesting him saying that birds Evolved electromagnetic compasses. They aren't protesting electricity or anything of the sort, just Evolution. Saying that fundies are protesting evolution is like saying water is wet, or that fishes evolved in the water, or something...
 
2014-05-19 01:25:08 PM
Threads like this, I miss Bevets.
 
2014-05-19 01:26:00 PM
Organized religion is on the TV 24/7 on multiple channels.

Science has a one hour show one night a week and the zelots feel persecuted.
 
2014-05-19 01:30:24 PM
We should stop debating creationists.
They require a specific interpretation of documents translated from bronze age stories to give them the emotional comfort of faith.
We should just deal with that,  just explain to them we understand and sympathize with their limitations so we won't waste their time and ours.
 
2014-05-19 01:30:53 PM

Lord Dimwit: Anyway, I got a talking to after class for using the phrase "Christian mythology."


"A myth is a sacred narrative explaining how the world and humankind assumed their present form." - Wikipedia entry.

Your teachers failed at vocabulary.
 
2014-05-19 01:34:09 PM

Satanic_Hamster: Suck it, libs.
[i.imgur.com image 850x1113]


img.fark.net


/not at you, just at the page....
 
2014-05-19 01:36:15 PM

WippitGuud: wildcardjack: But throwing out the idea that Noah was a story, just like the native american version, gets you sent to the principal in Texas.

Can't stories be true, though?


Nothing boiled down for elementary school is entirely true. Truth is built if too many nuanced facts. The Truth of Noah is probably rooted in a mesopotamian gulley washer, but that's too complicated for school.

I think pointing out that every river culture getting a flood story made me a bit of a Lisa.

/you don't realize how bad the school was until you're an adult
 
2014-05-19 01:37:53 PM

FlashHarry: wait until they get ahold of this week's episode, which reminds everyone that the noah's ark was just one of many flood myths.


My wife heard that and said "Oh, he's trolling the fundies early this week".

Which is kind of the point of this round of Cosmos. Being able to talk science without catering to religion.
 
2014-05-19 01:44:59 PM

WippitGuud: wildcardjack: But throwing out the idea that Noah was a story, just like the native american version, gets you sent to the principal in Texas.

Can't stories be true, though?


Not a story that defies the laws of physics. Within the time frame (the last five or six thousand years), there's no way there could be enough water on the planet to cover all the land. Just think about a sphere, and the volume VS surface area increase problem, and covering Everest. Raising the sea level another 8,848 meters is patently *ridiculous*. The difference in water is about 3.1x the volume of the earth's oceans, or about an additional 1/5th the volume of the moon, according to some quick and dirty wolfram alpha work. That much additional mass appearing over 40 days would have profound impacts on the planet's land masses, not to mention the orbit/rotation of the earth and the energy required to remove it after God was done being pissy. And hell, think of the salt content changes in the ocean from that much additional water. They apparently didn't put fish on the ark; how did both saltwater and freshwater fish survive?

The idea that water could cover all the land in the world only remotely makes sense if you're an ignorant goat farker who's definition of "world" is a 30 mile radius around where you were born.
 
2014-05-19 01:45:08 PM

spawn73: question_dj: SilentStrider: I'm not sure what I like better about Cosmos.
The fact that it shows how awesome science is.
Or the fact that it drives the fundies nuts.

[img.fark.net image 400x389]

Because both would be a logical fallacy?


Yes, but the second one gives ammunition for several XKCD classics.
I like this one:
imgs.xkcd.com
 
2014-05-19 01:48:26 PM

SordidEuphemism: 'lectricity? We don' need no 'lectricity. God-fearin' types like us don't cotton to no fancy librul scientician hullabaloo.

Now why's muh Netflix not workin' no more? I needs to catch up on them Duggars.



Maybe it was the use of the word "hullabaloo" but I read that in Patton Oswald's voice
 
2014-05-19 01:51:03 PM

Emposter: Satanic_Hamster: Suck it, libs.
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My brother is an electrical engineer.  I'll have to show him that.  Good find.



Yeah, one of my friends is too... I wonder if I can get his brain to explode...
 
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