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2014-05-19 09:32:18 AM
"sad?" really, fundiemitter?
 
2014-05-19 09:36:45 AM
Ronald Reagan once quipped, "I have wondered at times what the Ten Commandments would have looked like if Moses had run them through the U.S. Congress."

If the Gipper had lived another couple decades, he might've found out.


And speaking of idolatry...
 
2014-05-19 09:50:12 AM

FlashHarry: "sad?" really, fundiemitter?


Everything about TownHall is pretty sad, really.

/not anysortofmitter
 
2014-05-19 10:00:32 AM
Every Christian on the planet is violating the first commandment, and after that, everything else is small potatoes.
 
2014-05-19 10:01:51 AM
Damn... that is just pathetic
 
2014-05-19 10:06:41 AM
And that's why pagans stay below the radar folks....just in case a local nut decides to throw a few witches on the pyre and have a weenie roast.
 
2014-05-19 10:16:07 AM
Sad tag is for me just figuring out that it wasn't satire. Really.
 
2014-05-19 10:16:23 AM
I had to double check I wasn't reading Christwire, that was almost too dumb to be serious.

Marcus Aurelius: Every Christian on the planet is violating the first commandment, and after that, everything else is small potatoes.


I still don't understand how Christians (especially Catholics) don't believe that putting Jesus everywhere doesn't constitute a graven image.

/That's the second commandment, but still.

I don't know too much about Christian theology (I'm Jewish) but is there defense of working on the Sabbath that Christ healed people? Because that shows a huge lack of understanding of what the Sabbath laws are, and what one is allowed to do on the Sabbath.

Not only is healing not proscribed as one of the items you are not allowed to do on the Sabbath, but you are explicitly allowed to help those in mortal danger even if it requires breaking of the Sabbath laws.
 
2014-05-19 10:18:13 AM
Which is the one about coveting thy neighbors god, or something? I'm pretty sure I'm guilty of that.
 
2014-05-19 10:19:32 AM

nmrsnr: I still don't understand how Christians (especially Catholics) don't believe that putting Jesus everywhere doesn't constitute a graven image.


Their drooling support for Roy Moore and the 10 Commandments slabs alone is enough conclude they're lying hypocrites.

www.rvick.com
 
2014-05-19 10:19:50 AM
So, I read your linked article subby, and I'm sure you and the writer are very proud of the strawman you've created: "Read How A Political Philosophy Fails at  Meeting Our Religious Viewpoints."

But this one really struck me: "To deny God is to take the Lord's name in vain."  Uh, no.  To call yourself "a Christian" and use that moniker to excuse all your anti-Christian, materialistic, and/or power-hungry actions is to take the Lord's name in vain.  To do the exact opposite of Christ's teachings, to codify that rebellion into political philosophy and law, to do so to harm those that your religion most focused on helping, that is what taking the Lord's name in vain is.

Not to say that conservatives have a monopoly on such things; there are Christian pastors and crucifix-sporting pols on both sides that accomplish this.  But perhaps the "godly" conservative may want to deal with the plank in his own eye before worrying about how Liberalism isn't a valid religion.

Also:  That said, many Christians still view Sunday as the Sabbath and do, indeed, keep it holy.  This writer has never been to the South during the NFL season, or NASCAR season (quick hint: it is pretty much all year).
 
2014-05-19 10:21:47 AM

nmrsnr: I still don't understand how Christians (especially Catholics) don't believe that putting Jesus everywhere doesn't constitute a graven image


I'm pretty sure they simply ignore that part.  For me it was always the "three gods are really one god and you need to go through Jesus first to get to the one third God part" that had me completely stumped.  I used to ask clergymen about it when I was a child, and each answer was more lame than the last.

One thing for sure is a whole lot of people will stand up in church and mindlessly repeat a creed they hardly agree with, then consider themselves washed clean.
 
2014-05-19 10:23:40 AM

Weaver95: And that's why pagans stay below the radar folks....just in case a local nut decides to throw a few witches on the pyre and have a weenie roast.


Go the Sikh route. Athames are useful as daggers just like any other knife.
 
2014-05-19 10:25:06 AM

Marcus Aurelius: nmrsnr: I still don't understand how Christians (especially Catholics) don't believe that putting Jesus everywhere doesn't constitute a graven image

I'm pretty sure they simply ignore that part.  For me it was always the "three gods are really one god and you need to go through Jesus first to get to the one third God part" that had me completely stumped.  I used to ask clergymen about it when I was a child, and each answer was more lame than the last.

One thing for sure is a whole lot of people will stand up in church and mindlessly repeat a creed they hardly agree with, then consider themselves washed clean.


I've never liked using middle men, religion is no different.
 
2014-05-19 10:25:36 AM
One of the things that bugs me about the evangelicals is the default belief that their god is the only god. Along with that is the idea that one has to be a member of their cult in order to be considered a US citizen. Scary folks, some of those evangelicals. I very much hope they never get to run this country.
 
2014-05-19 10:28:13 AM

Marcus Aurelius: nmrsnr: I still don't understand how Christians (especially Catholics) don't believe that putting Jesus everywhere doesn't constitute a graven image

I'm pretty sure they simply ignore that part.  For me it was always the "three gods are really one god and you need to go through Jesus first to get to the one third God part" that had me completely stumped.  I used to ask clergymen about it when I was a child, and each answer was more lame than the last.

One thing for sure is a whole lot of people will stand up in church and mindlessly repeat a creed they hardly agree with, then consider themselves washed clean.


Wanna really piss off a super Christian point out that the trinity is actually a good representation of the pagan view of the god and goddess. Both have a tripartite aspect. Maiden, mother, crone for the goddess and young king, warrior and wise man for the god. Christians mimic pagan views then they talk about the father, son and holy spirit.
 
2014-05-19 10:31:53 AM

Weaver95: Marcus Aurelius: nmrsnr: I still don't understand how Christians (especially Catholics) don't believe that putting Jesus everywhere doesn't constitute a graven image

I'm pretty sure they simply ignore that part.  For me it was always the "three gods are really one god and you need to go through Jesus first to get to the one third God part" that had me completely stumped.  I used to ask clergymen about it when I was a child, and each answer was more lame than the last.

One thing for sure is a whole lot of people will stand up in church and mindlessly repeat a creed they hardly agree with, then consider themselves washed clean.

Wanna really piss off a super Christian point out that the trinity is actually a good representation of the pagan view of the god and goddess. Both have a tripartite aspect. Maiden, mother, crone for the goddess and young king, warrior and wise man for the god. Christians mimic pagan views then they talk about the father, son and holy spi


Jesus was Jewish.
 
2014-05-19 10:34:14 AM
The ten commandments

1 through 4 - Thou shalt properly kiss gods ass
5 through 9 - Thou shalt Respect other people in all things
10 - Don't worry be happy
 
2014-05-19 10:38:25 AM
www.mindhuestudio.com
 
2014-05-19 10:40:06 AM

Weaver95: Christians mimic pagan views then they talk about the father, son and holy spirit.


I figured that's why the Romans split them into three pieces.  It broadened the appeal of their new religion.  Jesus as a deity wasn't widespread until the Romans made him one third of God.
 
2014-05-19 10:40:48 AM
Every BrownHole link is explicity designed to troll.
 
2014-05-19 10:41:43 AM

Weaver95: And that's why pagans stay below the radar folks....just in case a local nut decides to throw a few witches on the pyre and have a weenie roast.


To be fair, you guys are made of wood, and weigh the same as a duck.
 
2014-05-19 10:42:30 AM
SABBATH = SUNDAY YOU LIBTARDS. STUDY IT OUT!
 
2014-05-19 10:44:16 AM
If you believe your own strained analogies, it's not lying.
 
2014-05-19 10:44:29 AM
i.imgur.com
 
2014-05-19 10:44:38 AM
WTF is this shait?
 
2014-05-19 10:45:05 AM
Anything...ANYTHING, but look in the mirror....
 
2014-05-19 10:45:30 AM
"Every one of the Ten Commandments is explicitly violated by a principle of the left"

Good.
 
2014-05-19 10:45:36 AM
Luckily, this is America, where you aren't required to follow the Ten Commandments, or else Thomas Jefferson would have made the 11th Amendment "The rights of the father and mother to be honored shall not be abridged."

/drtftownhall
 
2014-05-19 10:45:38 AM

twat_waffle: Weaver95: And that's why pagans stay below the radar folks....just in case a local nut decides to throw a few witches on the pyre and have a weenie roast.

To be fair, you guys are made of wood, and weigh the same as a duck.


You are wise in the ways of science,  twat_waffle.
 
2014-05-19 10:45:55 AM

Majick Thise: 1 through 4 - Thou shalt properly kiss gods ass


It's Hank's Ass, get it right.
 
2014-05-19 10:46:01 AM

gilgigamesh: Which is the one about coveting thy neighbors god, or something? I'm pretty sure I'm guilty of that.


Maybe the neighbor's wife shouldn't be so hot, prancing around with practically nothing on and such.
 
2014-05-19 10:46:27 AM

Weaver95: Marcus Aurelius: nmrsnr: I still don't understand how Christians (especially Catholics) don't believe that putting Jesus everywhere doesn't constitute a graven image

I'm pretty sure they simply ignore that part.  For me it was always the "three gods are really one god and you need to go through Jesus first to get to the one third God part" that had me completely stumped.  I used to ask clergymen about it when I was a child, and each answer was more lame than the last.

One thing for sure is a whole lot of people will stand up in church and mindlessly repeat a creed they hardly agree with, then consider themselves washed clean.

Wanna really piss off a super Christian point out that the trinity is actually a good representation of the pagan view of the god and goddess. Both have a tripartite aspect. Maiden, mother, crone for the goddess and young king, warrior and wise man for the god. Christians mimic pagan views then they talk about the father, son and holy spirit.


So...the Father, the Mother, the Maiden, the Crone, the Warrior, the Smith, and the Stranger?
 
2014-05-19 10:46:59 AM
I'm never inclined to treat Christians like they're decent people on my best day, but sometimes the Bible gets it right and Christians still screw it up. I live in Texas, and a bunch of people who aren't Republicans are talking about how best to solve the problem of payday loan lenders.

You know who really pissed God off? Usurers, that's who. Mr. Jesus had the right idea about loan sharks, but these... Christians can't even get that right. This isn't failing to live up to a standard -- this isn't trying and failing to live a moral and honorable life -- this is just shrugging off the hard stuff, the bits that would be really inconvenient to honor.
 
2014-05-19 10:47:22 AM
I won't click on a Townhall link out of principle, but I imagine the "thou shalt not kill" argument they make is abortion.  That said, do they address capital punishment?

Just in this article, I mean.
 
2014-05-19 10:47:44 AM
Not all liberals (there are certainly liberal Jews), but liberalism at large denies the Sabbath any significance whatsoever, much less a holy significance.

hahahah jesus christ
 
2014-05-19 10:48:34 AM
And the right explicitly violates MASSIVE segments of the new testament daily.

Hell, they have built a RELIGION around an utter perversion of it (See: The prosperity gospel. Which is based around a concept that the new testament *EXPLICITLY STATE*, *MULTIPLE TIMES*, is invalid and false and *evil*).
 
2014-05-19 10:48:35 AM

GoodyearPimp: twat_waffle: Weaver95: And that's why pagans stay below the radar folks....just in case a local nut decides to throw a few witches on the pyre and have a weenie roast.

To be fair, you guys are made of wood, and weigh the same as a duck.

You are wise in the ways of science,  twat_waffle.


Did you know that sheep's bladders can be used to prevent earthquakes?
 
mhd
2014-05-19 10:49:28 AM

Weaver95: And that's why pagans stay below the radar folks...


On the internet, where they're usually in before even the vegans to proclaim their existence?
 
2014-05-19 10:49:30 AM
"Slap me with a Red River catfish if Moses ain't exactly right."

His supply of homespun sayings is running lower than a caterpillar's belly in Aunt Tilly's garden in May.
 
2014-05-19 10:49:49 AM
The First Amendment or the First Commandment? You can only pick one.
 
2014-05-19 10:49:53 AM

Weaver95: One of the things that bugs me about the evangelicals is the default belief that their god is the only god.


And that Ayn Rand is his prophet.
 
2014-05-19 10:49:58 AM
It is soo cute to watch an American Potato work really hard to fit modern life into their notions of white and wrong.
 
2014-05-19 10:50:02 AM

nmrsnr: I had to double check I wasn't reading Christwire, that was almost too dumb to be serious.

Marcus Aurelius: Every Christian on the planet is violating the first commandment, and after that, everything else is small potatoes.

I still don't understand how Christians (especially Catholics) don't believe that putting Jesus everywhere doesn't constitute a graven image.


I thought that for many folk, Jesus = God. Literally. That "The Father, The Son and The Holy Ghost" aren't three separate entities but one entity in three forms.
 
2014-05-19 10:50:13 AM
the vast overwhelming majority of liberals are christians, you literal pile of human garbage
 
2014-05-19 10:50:34 AM
Our entire economy is based on coveting your neighbors stuff.
 
2014-05-19 10:50:37 AM
I suppose it would be fair to go down the list and discuss it, to avoid the risk of being labeled a "no u" arguer.

1. No other gods before God.  I'm ignoring non-Christian/Jewish/Muslim liberals and concentrating on those of us that do ascribe to Abraham's God, because why should Buddhists or Atheists be held to a Christian theological standard?  That leaves Abrahamic faithful with the question of whether to remain faithful to their faith.  Is this a question of political philosophy or religious philosophy?  Considering other viewpoints and not denigrating others' faith isn't an inherently sinful position as the author claims.

2. Keep holy the sabbath.  Is going to Church enough?  Or are we held to the "nothing that will cause a spark" standard of Orthodox Judaism?  Because it is pretty difficult to accomplish the latter in modern society, what with motion sensors and whatnot.  Does being a liberal make it so that one cannot go to church?  No.  Does being a conservative require it?  No.

3. No false idols. This is another argument based on tautology: that anyone not spending their whole time evangelizing Jesus's GOP-filtered message in the name of St. Ronald is automatically worshiping another idol, that is the idol of humanity.  Seems like a pretty difficult restriction given that the majority of Christians do not live in the US and are not subject to GOP-branded messaging.

4. Honor you father and mother.  Sure, liberals brought about womens' liberation and the spike in divorces that came with it, breaking up the traditional family structure.  But was it merely the good looks of John F. Kennedy driving women away from their husbands? No, it was more likely the widespread spousal abuse and sh*tty treatment of women by their spouses.  Liberals are not content to let women that have to leave their husband to twist in the wind, while apparently conservatives are.

5. No stealing.  "All taxes are theft."  Please; this again?

6. No killing.  Good points on euthanasia, of course ignoring that people already sentenced to die slow, agonizing deaths at the hand of our merciful Father in heaven deserve any relief, if only an emotional one knowing that they won't be causing their families to suffer great emotional, spiritual, and financial hardship at watching them be ground into nothing by disease.  Ignore also that liberalism is in general the less hawkish philosophy, and war happens to be pretty damn good at killing lots of people indiscriminately.

7. No coveting your neighbor's house.  Our society is built on competition with the Joneses.  I'll not be lectured on the merits of a humble lifestyle by the party of the rich.

8. No coveting your neighbor's wife.  I'm not sure where liberalism tells me to do this.  Bill Clinton being a philanderer is not a hallmark of liberalism although Democrats let it slide because he wasn't campaigning as a religious leader.  I don't see any justice in cheating on my wife because of him.

9. No bearing false witness.  Liberalism doesn't tell me to lie; in fact the political philosophy most at odds with the seeking of facts and truth is most assuredly conservatism, predicated on the lie that "it was better in the good old days."  Never mind that the people that claim that always seem to model a time about a decade before they were born or at least aware of anything as the "good, old days."

10. No taking the Lord's name in vain.  Which party claims that their presidential candidates received urging "from God" to run?  Which party uses the bible belt to reinforce their power to disenfranchise the poor and increase income inequality?  Which group is the one defaming God's name?
 
2014-05-19 10:50:38 AM
1. Thou Shalt Have No Gods Before Me.

Building your political party around the concept of worshiping money is not looked kindly upon by the Almighty.

2. Thou Shalt Not Make Graven Images.

Trying to pass constitutional amendments to make the flag "sacred" and getting your panties in a bunch because someone won't stand up for a pledge of allegiance or wear a flag pin is blasphemous.

3. Thou Shalt Not Take the Lord's Name in Vain.

To constantly claim that God supports your political party without any evidence that he does is taking the lord's name in vain.

4. Remember to Keep Holy the Sabbath.

So no campaign rallies or fundraiser's on Sundays? Wake me when you support regulation to keep job creators from making people work on the Sabbath to maximize profits.

5. Honor Thy Father and Thy Mother.

Social Security and Medicare are two programs that provide care for our father's and mother's when they get old. Two programs that the GOP has been trying to gut since they started.

6. Thou Shalt Not Murder.

Executing the innocent and the mentally retarded is murder (I personally go one further and think all executions are murder)

7. Thou Shalt Not Commit Adultery.

insert adulterous republican names here.

8. Thou Shalt Not Steal.

Redistributing wealth for the poor = stealing
Redistribution for the rich = job creation, right?

9. Thou Shalt Not Bear False Witness.

Bearing false witness is a very example of lying... like perjury or something like this:

upload.wikimedia.org

10. Thou Shalt Not Covet.

You try to make a consumerist economy work without coveting, aholes.
 
2014-05-19 10:50:41 AM
I don't need a bunch of racist, bigoted, science denying, anti poor, anti disabled, anti everything but rich white male, assholes telling me how to live.

Politicians that attempt to tie religious values to their corrupt hypocrisy will surely rot in hell, if hell exists.

Fkuc you for even attempting to look down on me and telling me how to live. It's like the mass murderer trying to lecture the jury.

Go to hell GOP. Go to hell politicians. and go to hell gasbag conservative bloggers.

Worship of the Almighty Dollar is not a religion you repugnant pieces of crap.
 
2014-05-19 10:50:41 AM
How about blind worship of the free market by the right?
 
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