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2014-05-19 01:51:52 PM
Popeye's -"The urban fried chicken-and-biscuits brand"

ie if you see one of these, you're not typically in the best neighborhood.

See also - Crown Fried Chicken
 
2014-05-19 02:00:58 PM
I don't think the fact that chicken is slightly more popular than burgers makes them "toast".  Cheeseburgers are freaking delicious.

/I probably orders equal amounts of chicken and beef at fast food, but at home we do more chicken and ground pork.
 
2014-05-19 02:03:53 PM
The new menu offering consists of a dozen chunks of breaded chicken breast covered with sauce, cheese and assorted pizza toppings.

Every time I see this in the commercial I don't understand why it exists.  This just doesn't appeal to me.
 
2014-05-19 02:05:09 PM
Had a Chick-fil-a chiken biscuit for breakfast. It was yummers.
 
2014-05-19 02:07:29 PM

MugzyBrown: Popeye's -"The urban fried chicken-and-biscuits brand"

ie if you see one of these, you're not typically in the best neighborhood.

See also - Crown Fried Chicken


Wat

We have Popeye's Chicken at the yuppie mall. They're all over, actually.

The chicken's terrible, mind you.  Totally staffed with South American immigrants.  I don't think they truly understand fried chicken.

Back when I lived in Louisville, the Popeye's were staffed by black ladies.  Man, that was some good farking chicken!

Anyway, chicken is easier and cheaper to produce than beef, right?
 
2014-05-19 02:08:21 PM

jaybeezey: Had a Chick-fil-a chiken biscuit for breakfast. It was yummers.


I don't understand why more chains don't copy Chick-fil-A and slather everything with MSG. That's the secret.
 
2014-05-19 02:11:11 PM

jaybeezey: Had a Chick-fil-a chiken biscuit for breakfast. It was yummers.


Their chicken sandwich is completely unremarkable and their fries suck.

Plus they are overpriced.

When I want fast food chicken (which is more often my choice over burgers, I never thought the day would come...) I haven't found better than this:

wkqsfm.com

The one in the middle is my favorite.
 
2014-05-19 02:12:22 PM

jst3p: jaybeezey: Had a Chick-fil-a chiken biscuit for breakfast. It was yummers.

Their chicken sandwich is completely unremarkable and their fries suck.

Plus they are overpriced.

When I want fast food chicken (which is more often my choice over burgers, I never thought the day would come...) I haven't found better than this:

[wkqsfm.com image 766x399]

The one in the middle is my favorite.


Wendy's chicken is always soggy round where I live.
 
2014-05-19 02:13:07 PM

sendtodave: MugzyBrown: Popeye's -"The urban fried chicken-and-biscuits brand"

ie if you see one of these, you're not typically in the best neighborhood.

See also - Crown Fried Chicken

Wat

We have Popeye's Chicken at the yuppie mall. They're all over, actually.


That's the new Popeye's strategy:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/09/27/how-popey es -went-upscale/
 
2014-05-19 02:13:54 PM

sendtodave: Wendy's chicken is always soggy round where I live.


That's a bummer. I have a choice of two that are close. One is great. The other one, it seems like they never change the fry oil or something, anything fried tastes like rubber.

YMMV.
 
2014-05-19 02:15:34 PM

Rapmaster2000: sendtodave: MugzyBrown: Popeye's -"The urban fried chicken-and-biscuits brand"

ie if you see one of these, you're not typically in the best neighborhood.

See also - Crown Fried Chicken

Wat

We have Popeye's Chicken at the yuppie mall. They're all over, actually.

That's the new Popeye's strategy:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/09/27/how-popey es -went-upscale/


I am glad they did. I find it so much tastier than KFC but I didn't discover this until a couple years ago. I feel robbed at missing out for so much of my life.

One of the few drawbacks of a middle class life.
 
2014-05-19 02:17:19 PM

jst3p: Rapmaster2000: sendtodave: MugzyBrown: Popeye's -"The urban fried chicken-and-biscuits brand"

ie if you see one of these, you're not typically in the best neighborhood.

See also - Crown Fried Chicken

Wat

We have Popeye's Chicken at the yuppie mall. They're all over, actually.

That's the new Popeye's strategy:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/09/27/how-popey es -went-upscale/

I am glad they did. I find it so much tastier than KFC but I didn't discover this until a couple years ago. I feel robbed at missing out for so much of my life.

One of the few drawbacks of a middle class life.


I agree with that.  Popeye's is much tastier than KFC - especially the spicy.
 
2014-05-19 02:17:34 PM

Rapmaster2000: jaybeezey: Had a Chick-fil-a chiken biscuit for breakfast. It was yummers.

I don't understand why more chains don't copy Chick-fil-A and slather everything with MSG. That's the secret.


Because MSG got Jenny McCarthy'd. Most restaurants don't like to use it because introducing MSG to food would create a self-important whinge-fest from all the hypochondriacs.
 
2014-05-19 02:18:40 PM
I have my money on kale being the next big fast food trend.
 
2014-05-19 02:19:38 PM

Muta: I have my money on kale being the next big fast food trend.


Deep-fried kale.
 
2014-05-19 02:20:49 PM

MugzyBrown: Popeye's -"The urban fried chicken-and-biscuits brand"

ie if you see one of these, you're not typically in the best neighborhood.

See also - Crown Fried Chicken


See also - Church's Chicken
 
2014-05-19 02:22:29 PM

jst3p: The other one, it seems like they never change the fry oil or something, anything fried tastes like rubber.


Clean oil is the key.  Clean oil seals the outside of the breading immediately as the chicken is dropped in preventing it from getting absorbed. Deep frying in clean oil is really quite healthy.  Dirty oil doesn't seal the breading as quickly allowing the breading to sponge up the oil.
 
2014-05-19 02:28:04 PM

Muta: jst3p: The other one, it seems like they never change the fry oil or something, anything fried tastes like rubber.

Clean oil is the key.  Clean oil seals the outside of the breading immediately as the chicken is dropped in preventing it from getting absorbed. Deep frying in clean oil is really quite healthy.  Dirty oil doesn't seal the breading as quickly allowing the breading to sponge up the oil.


Huh.   Neat.

http://www.seriouseats.com/2013/09/ask-the-food-lab-how-many-times-c an -i-reuse-fry-oil.html

The more oil breaks down, the less hydrophobic it becomes. At first, this can actually be an advantage. Less hydrophobic molecules in your oil means that it can come into closer contact with foods, allowing them to fry just a bit more efficiently. This is where the wisdom of those tempura chefs comes in-adding a bit of degraded, old fry oil to the new batch will improve it.
Eventually, as this breakdown continues, your oil becomes less and less hydrophobic, and eventually it'll start entering your food too rapidly, causing it to turn greasy and ruining its crispness.
 
2014-05-19 02:29:09 PM

sendtodave: jst3p: jaybeezey: Had a Chick-fil-a chiken biscuit for breakfast. It was yummers.

Their chicken sandwich is completely unremarkable and their fries suck.

Plus they are overpriced.

When I want fast food chicken (which is more often my choice over burgers, I never thought the day would come...) I haven't found better than this:

[wkqsfm.com image 766x399]

The one in the middle is my favorite.

Wendy's chicken is always soggy round where I live.


A few times I had chicken from Wendy's the chicken wasn't completely cooked.  Medium rare chicken isn't my fav.  I'm funny that way.

/burgers are good though.
 
2014-05-19 02:39:39 PM

MugzyBrown: Popeye's -"The urban fried chicken-and-biscuits brand"

ie if you see one of these, you're not typically in the best neighborhood.

See also - Crown Fried Chicken


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/67/Crown_Fried_Chick en .JPG

Looked up Crown Fried Chicken.

Yeah, that looks really welcoming. Like they expect the customer to try and jump over and rob the place.
 
2014-05-19 02:41:34 PM

sendtodave: MugzyBrown: Popeye's -"The urban fried chicken-and-biscuits brand"

ie if you see one of these, you're not typically in the best neighborhood.

See also - Crown Fried Chicken

Wat

We have Popeye's Chicken at the yuppie mall. They're all over, actually.

The chicken's terrible, mind you.  Totally staffed with South American immigrants.  I don't think they truly understand fried chicken.

Back when I lived in Louisville, the Popeye's were staffed by black ladies.  Man, that was some good farking chicken!

Anyway, chicken is easier and cheaper to produce than beef, right?


Poe's law?
 
2014-05-19 02:42:32 PM

spawn73: sendtodave: MugzyBrown: Popeye's -"The urban fried chicken-and-biscuits brand"

ie if you see one of these, you're not typically in the best neighborhood.

See also - Crown Fried Chicken

Wat

We have Popeye's Chicken at the yuppie mall. They're all over, actually.

The chicken's terrible, mind you.  Totally staffed with South American immigrants.  I don't think they truly understand fried chicken.

Back when I lived in Louisville, the Popeye's were staffed by black ladies.  Man, that was some good farking chicken!

Anyway, chicken is easier and cheaper to produce than beef, right?

Poe's law?


I'll never tell.
 
2014-05-19 02:50:49 PM

MugzyBrown: Popeye's -"The urban fried chicken-and-biscuits brand"

ie if you see one of these, you're not typically in the best neighborhood.

See also - Crown Fried Chicken


CSB

They advertise like CRAZY for them up in Buffalo. We finally got one somewhere in the ghetto this year. I haven't been to that one yet because last summer on a road/camping trip I stopped at one in (I think) Troy NY.

Was a horrible experience, the food was dry and I couldn't find any of the items from the commercials on the drive thru menu. They didn't seem to have a parking lot or a sit down area inside. Felt like I was going to get shot at the drive thru. They must have messed up or order because they asked us to pull past the drive thru and wait behind the building so the line didn't back up into the road. Almost just left without the food at that point as it felt very sketchy.

/CSB
 
2014-05-19 02:52:29 PM
I'm not really sure how much of this is correlation and how much is causation. With beef pricing rising, it would make sense that fast food would be hyping the crap out of chicken. They don't have room to raise their prices.

That being said, I'm glad CFA is expanding quickly, but figure it will probably be a long time before one opens near me.
 
2014-05-19 02:54:37 PM

jst3p: jaybeezey: Had a Chick-fil-a chiken biscuit for breakfast. It was yummers.

Their chicken sandwich is completely unremarkable and their fries suck.

Plus they are overpriced.


When I want fast food chicken (which is more often my choice over burgers, I never thought the day would come...) I haven't found better than this:

[wkqsfm.com image 766x399]

The one in the middle is my favorite.


Any thread that shows the utter dominance CFA enjoys these days eventually turns into a "spot the atheist" thread.

/found you
 
2014-05-19 03:05:04 PM
In fast food, the hamburger could be toast, and fried chicken processed chicken meat parts could be the staple of everyone from McDonald's to Domino's

FTFY, Subby.
 
2014-05-19 03:05:07 PM

sendtodave: Muta: jst3p: The other one, it seems like they never change the fry oil or something, anything fried tastes like rubber.

Clean oil is the key.  Clean oil seals the outside of the breading immediately as the chicken is dropped in preventing it from getting absorbed. Deep frying in clean oil is really quite healthy.  Dirty oil doesn't seal the breading as quickly allowing the breading to sponge up the oil.

Huh.   Neat.

http://www.seriouseats.com/2013/09/ask-the-food-lab-how-many-times-c an -i-reuse-fry-oil.html

The more oil breaks down, the less hydrophobic it becomes. At first, this can actually be an advantage. Less hydrophobic molecules in your oil means that it can come into closer contact with foods, allowing them to fry just a bit more efficiently. This is where the wisdom of those tempura chefs comes in-adding a bit of degraded, old fry oil to the new batch will improve it.
Eventually, as this breakdown continues, your oil becomes less and less hydrophobic, and eventually it'll start entering your food too rapidly, causing it to turn greasy and ruining its crispness.


That article is really cool. Nice mix of food and science.
 
2014-05-19 03:17:45 PM
I'm okay with this. Well, I'm Almost okay with this. I would be if they'd find a way to make a decent sized chicken sandwich that didn't have that incredibly hard chunk of gristle that every damn one eventually ends up having.

/Eww.
//EWW.
 
2014-05-19 03:18:46 PM
sendtodave:

Wat

In NYC, almost all of the Popeyes are in the rougher areas. The nice areas, and the shopping malls, get KFC.
 
2014-05-19 03:21:11 PM
jst3p:

The one in the middle is my favorite.


Fully agree. The spicy Asiago is killer.  Wendys makes the best chicken-in-a-non-chicken-joint. They beat McDonalds/Burger King/etc across the board in both chicken sandwiches and nuggets.
 
2014-05-19 03:21:40 PM

Bullseyed: jst3p: jaybeezey: Had a Chick-fil-a chiken biscuit for breakfast. It was yummers.

Their chicken sandwich is completely unremarkable and their fries suck.

Plus they are overpriced.

When I want fast food chicken (which is more often my choice over burgers, I never thought the day would come...) I haven't found better than this:

[wkqsfm.com image 766x399]

The one in the middle is my favorite.

Any thread that shows the utter dominance CFA enjoys these days eventually turns into a "spot the atheist" thread.

/found you


I happen to know he's a Muslim.
 
2014-05-19 03:25:09 PM

Bullseyed: jst3p: jaybeezey: Had a Chick-fil-a chiken biscuit for breakfast. It was yummers.

Their chicken sandwich is completely unremarkable and their fries suck.

Plus they are overpriced.

When I want fast food chicken (which is more often my choice over burgers, I never thought the day would come...) I haven't found better than this:

[wkqsfm.com image 766x399]

The one in the middle is my favorite.

Any thread that shows the utter dominance CFA enjoys these days eventually turns into a "spot the atheist" thread.

/found you


Uhm, I don't think you're Christian yourself really.

From what I can glen Chick'a'filla's owner is a Catholic.
 
2014-05-19 03:30:59 PM
Honestly, I'd kill for a good doner kebab presence in America.  Screw hamburgers and fried chicken.  Lamb tornado on a spit is where it's at.
 
2014-05-19 03:32:36 PM

Big Beef Burrito: MugzyBrown: Popeye's -"The urban fried chicken-and-biscuits brand"

ie if you see one of these, you're not typically in the best neighborhood.

See also - Crown Fried Chicken

See also - Church's Chicken


Religious Chicken
 
2014-05-19 03:32:53 PM

spawn73: MugzyBrown: Popeye's -"The urban fried chicken-and-biscuits brand"

ie if you see one of these, you're not typically in the best neighborhood.

See also - Crown Fried Chicken

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/67/Crown_Fried_Chick en .JPG

Looked up Crown Fried Chicken.

Yeah, that looks really welcoming. Like they expect the customer to try and jump over and rob the place.


There's a chain in inner Baltimore City - rougher areas don't really exist in this country - called Tyrone's Fried Chicken. (I think they've expanded out to the rest of the city by now, but only in Baltimore.)

I swear to all things holy in all faiths that I am not making this up. Apparently, it's AMAZING, too.
 
2014-05-19 03:33:01 PM

Bullseyed: jst3p: jaybeezey: Had a Chick-fil-a chiken biscuit for breakfast. It was yummers.

Their chicken sandwich is completely unremarkable and their fries suck.

Plus they are overpriced.

When I want fast food chicken (which is more often my choice over burgers, I never thought the day would come...) I haven't found better than this:

[wkqsfm.com image 766x399]

The one in the middle is my favorite.

Any thread that shows the utter dominance CFA enjoys these days eventually turns into a "spot the atheist" thread.

/found you


Because when it comes to food popularity equals quality. This is why rice, the most commonly eaten meal on the planet, is considered fine dining.
 
2014-05-19 03:36:42 PM

NightSteel: In fast food, the hamburger could be toast, and fried chicken processed chicken meat parts could be the staple of everyone from McDonald's to Domino's

FTFY, Subby.


Dude, I'm fine with manufactured meat, as long as it holds up like meat, and has eleven herbs and spices.   It's like sausage seasoning.  It can make anything taste like sausage.

And you know, for most of our history, and for many people still, meat was a total luxury.  Better processed meat parts than trying to suck tiny morsels off of a squab's leg.

Also, kids seem to prefer nuggets to things with bones.  And old folks.

Cats and dogs seem fine with processed foods over actually hunting.

So, bring on the processed meat paste!  It's better than nature.
 
2014-05-19 03:40:46 PM

Bullseyed: jst3p: jaybeezey: Had a Chick-fil-a chiken biscuit for breakfast. It was yummers.

Their chicken sandwich is completely unremarkable and their fries suck.

Plus they are overpriced.

When I want fast food chicken (which is more often my choice over burgers, I never thought the day would come...) I haven't found better than this:

[wkqsfm.com image 766x399]

The one in the middle is my favorite.

Any thread that shows the utter dominance CFA enjoys these days eventually turns into a "spot the atheist" thread.

/found you


Really?  Well, this Christian hates CFA, too.  How about them apples?

/No, I don't wear that fact on my Fark sleeve.  I consider myself an actual Christian, not a Murikan™  Christian.
 
2014-05-19 03:47:43 PM
I have noticed that all the KFCs are in lower middle class parts of town, ala Southpark. I go to nicer parts of town and there are places that only serve tenders or wings, never the whole bird.

I got lost in a very black part of Dallas one Saturday and found a Williams Family Chicken with a sign proclaiming "open 24/7".
 
2014-05-19 03:48:04 PM
/sneaks into thread

The BK and Denny's veggie burgers are good stuff.

Red Robin, too.

/runs away
 
2014-05-19 03:54:25 PM

NkThrasher: Honestly, I'd kill for a good doner kebab presence in America.  Screw hamburgers and fried chicken.  Lamb tornado on a spit is where it's at.


DC metro area seems to have a Persian or Afghan kabab place in every strip mall.  Including a regional chain.  I guess it is still a bit too "foreign" for the US yet and still based around ethnic enclaves.  Maybe some smart PR guy could come up with "Panda Express" like chain but with kababs?

/the chain has gone downhill
//different than doner kabab, but some have that too.
 
2014-05-19 03:54:37 PM

kyleaugustus: /sneaks into thread

The BK and Denny's veggie burgers are good stuff.

Red Robin, too.

/runs away


I wonder what the devil he wanted.
 
2014-05-19 03:55:26 PM
syberpud:  Maybe some smart PR guy could come up with "Panda Express" like chain but with kababs?

Kababblebees?
 
2014-05-19 03:56:47 PM

suburbanguy: Bullseyed: jst3p: jaybeezey: Had a Chick-fil-a chiken biscuit for breakfast. It was yummers.

Their chicken sandwich is completely unremarkable and their fries suck.

Plus they are overpriced.

When I want fast food chicken (which is more often my choice over burgers, I never thought the day would come...) I haven't found better than this:

[wkqsfm.com image 766x399]

The one in the middle is my favorite.

Any thread that shows the utter dominance CFA enjoys these days eventually turns into a "spot the atheist" thread.

/found you

Really?  Well, this Christian hates CFA, too.  How about them apples?

/No, I don't wear that fact on my Fark sleeve.  I consider myself an actual Christian, not a Murikan™  Christian.


Notice he didn't have anything actually positive to say about their food. I stand by my comments:

Their chicken sandwich is unremarkable and their fries suck.
 
2014-05-19 03:58:59 PM

jst3p: jaybeezey: Had a Chick-fil-a chiken biscuit for breakfast. It was yummers.

Their chicken sandwich is completely unremarkable and their fries suck.

Plus they are overpriced.

When I want fast food chicken (which is more often my choice over burgers, I never thought the day would come...) I haven't found better than this:

[wkqsfm.com image 766x399]

The one in the middle is my favorite.


Funny - that's how I feel about Wendy's.

Say what you want about CFA, but if you're on a road trip and stop at one off the highway (doesn't matter where), the bathrooms will be clean.  Any other fast food chain is a crap shoot.
 
2014-05-19 04:00:52 PM

The Singing Bush: Funny - that's how I feel about Wendy's.

Say what you want about CFA, but if you're on a road trip and stop at one off the highway (doesn't matter where), the bathrooms will be clean.  Any other fast food chain is a crap shoot.


I will agree with you on Wendy's fries, they are pretty awful too.
 
2014-05-19 04:13:35 PM
I love Kennedy Fried Chicken, because it's so clearly a Ghetto KFC rip off, and their hot sauce os farking amazeballs.
 
2014-05-19 04:15:26 PM

jst3p: The Singing Bush: Funny - that's how I feel about Wendy's.

Say what you want about CFA, but if you're on a road trip and stop at one off the highway (doesn't matter where), the bathrooms will be clean.  Any other fast food chain is a crap shoot.

I will agree with you on Wendy's fries, they are pretty awful too.


Wendy's fries are actually pretty good if you get them fresh and eat them right away. Problem is they go from crispy hot goodness to sodden mush in like 5 minutes. Though I prefer seasoned fries like they serve at Rally's or Popeye's these days.

As for fried chicken, I sometimes get fried chicken from the Brothers when I stop for gas. Not sure if how big a chain it is though.
 
2014-05-19 04:21:55 PM
www.jjsedelmaier.com
 
2014-05-19 04:25:21 PM
NightSteel: In fast food, the hamburger could be toast, and fried chicken processed chicken meat parts from China could be the staple of everyone from McDonald's to Domino's

FTFY, Subby.


FTFA
 
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