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(Portland Intelligencer)   Not news: guy calls paramedics for a medical crisis, asks them not to bring cops, and everything ends well. News: the news goes crazy   (pdxintelligencer.com) divider line 118
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2014-05-19 02:04:06 AM
Asking to not send cops, is going to get cops sent.....But I agree, they fark things up for us frequently too
 
2014-05-19 05:37:28 AM
I`m OK with this. The guy had a medical problem. It`s that simple.
 
2014-05-19 05:40:36 AM
I didn't realize at first that this is (bad) satire and was writing up a lengthy critique of the article, but instead I'll just say meh.
 
2014-05-19 05:43:13 AM
P.S. I know the incident's real, but the shiatty article's not.
 
2014-05-19 05:44:10 AM

dready zim: I`m OK with this. The guy had a medical problem. It`s that simple.


One one hand, that's right. It shouldn't be a forfeit of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights. OTOH, the what-have-you-got-to-hide crowd will argue the police have a right to respond to maintain the safety of EMS personnel from dangerous situations, like this:
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I, for one applaud, the 911 service for respecting that request.
 
2014-05-19 05:56:54 AM

ThatGuyFromTheInternet: dready zim: I`m OK with this. The guy had a medical problem. It`s that simple.

One one hand, that's right. It shouldn't be a forfeit of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights. OTOH, the what-have-you-got-to-hide crowd will argue the police have a right to respond to maintain the safety of EMS personnel from dangerous situations, like this:

I, for one applaud, the 911 service for respecting that request.


I came to say "Send more paramedics," but I see my work here is done.
 
2014-05-19 05:58:51 AM
Funny, I just watched, not 10 minutes ago, an emergency response consisting of a fire engine and an ambulance to my neighbor's house. There were no cops. Of course I live on a golf course in Tigard.

Wasn't our governor involved recently in saving a life from a heroin overdose?

I have no idea where I'm going with this
 
2014-05-19 06:06:00 AM
They don't allow police? I know who I am going to rob.
 
2014-05-19 06:06:08 AM
Dr. Daffodil.

That is all.
 
2014-05-19 06:06:20 AM
So the moral of the story is this:

Call the paramedics to save a life.

Call the police to end a life.

/am I doin' it right?
 
2014-05-19 06:09:56 AM
That guy picked a great place to try out the new batch.
 
2014-05-19 06:10:28 AM

cretinbob: Asking to not send cops, is going to get cops sent.....But I agree, they fark things up for us frequently too


I still blame the war on drugs for scaring and militarizing the local police forces, it was unnecessary but it was all the rage in the 80s.

Yes, I lean right but if you can't admit the drug war is an abject failure of Reagan then you're willfully ignorant.

Just say no my ass, her heart may have been in the right place but still.....
 
2014-05-19 06:15:45 AM

SlothB77: They don't allow police? I know who I am going to rob.


AAAhahahaha!!!

It's a Communist cafe, kiddo. I'd love to see what the militant, obsessive anarchist types in Portland would do to your ass!!

Hint: it's not all 'hippy vegan pinko pacafists' any more.
 
2014-05-19 06:18:25 AM
Portland "anarchists" can kiss my hairy Seattlite tochas.

/Will never forget the way they trashed my town during WTO.
 
2014-05-19 06:33:52 AM

steamingpile: cretinbob: Asking to not send cops, is going to get cops sent.....But I agree, they fark things up for us frequently too

I still blame the war on drugs for scaring and militarizing the local police forces, it was unnecessary but it was all the rage in the 80s.

Yes, I lean right but if you can't admit the drug war is an abject failure of Reagan then you're willfully ignorant.

Just say no my ass, her heart may have been in the right place but still.....


Reagan?
The "war on drugs" as we know it has been going on since at least Nixon, that Dolt
 
2014-05-19 06:41:04 AM

Cerebral Knievel: steamingpile: cretinbob: Asking to not send cops, is going to get cops sent.....But I agree, they fark things up for us frequently too

I still blame the war on drugs for scaring and militarizing the local police forces, it was unnecessary but it was all the rage in the 80s.

Yes, I lean right but if you can't admit the drug war is an abject failure of Reagan then you're willfully ignorant.

Just say no my ass, her heart may have been in the right place but still.....

Reagan?
The "war on drugs" as we know it has been going on since at least Nixon, that Dolt


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2014-05-19 06:49:53 AM
In other words, just send the paramedics. I have warrants.
 
2014-05-19 06:55:52 AM
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Thanks Obama!
 
2014-05-19 07:01:39 AM

steamingpile: cretinbob: Asking to not send cops, is going to get cops sent.....But I agree, they fark things up for us frequently too

I still blame the war on drugs for scaring and militarizing the local police forces, it was unnecessary but it was all the rage in the 80s.

getting police departments (and officers) hooked on all that sweet, sweet confiscation money

Yes, I lean right but if you can't admit the drug war is an abject failure of Reagan then you're willfully ignorant.

Remember that Right (on the political spectrum) means conservative, but conservative != Republican, and while the War on Some Drugs was a Republican process, that doesn't make it conservative, or right (on the political spectrum)

Just say no my ass, her heart may have been in the right place but still.....

I would only agree with this from a purely physiological perspective.  While imposing ones own will and personal morality may be a general human trait, that doesn't make it good.
 
2014-05-19 07:02:46 AM
local media is trying to understand why Langley would refuse to allow police to respond to a medical emergency.

First they don't need to be there
Second because they're all tazy, punchy and shooty.

Had they been there someone would probably have ended up dead.
 
2014-05-19 07:11:52 AM
Dr. Ishara Daffodil

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2014-05-19 07:29:05 AM

SlothB77: They don't allow police? I know who I am going to rob.


Places that allow police get robbed all the time.
 
2014-05-19 07:31:33 AM

Matthew Keene: In other words, just send the paramedics. I have warrants.

a medical emergency that doesn't warrant a police response.

If anything from that clusterfark of an article was true, then there are some annoying people in Portland, which doesn't exactly shock me.  But otherwise, I honestly don't know why you'd send police to a heroin overdose anyway.  I mean, I know "why", I just don't know what anybody would expect to actually accomplish.
 
2014-05-19 07:32:29 AM
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             "Yay, nothing got shot."
 
2014-05-19 07:32:32 AM
I don't understand why police should come in the first place if an ambulance is called.
 
2014-05-19 07:34:23 AM
Well, maybe it's a Wesen shop and they didn't want the Grimm to show up.
 
2014-05-19 07:36:52 AM
Well in current times, police are just looking for some violence to stimulate the boredom of their daily lives.  It was a good call.  They likely would have arrested 2-3 people and shot the victim if they came.
 
2014-05-19 07:38:18 AM
Quite simply, "rendering aid" isn't within the police's duties. Quite the opposite, usually.
 
2014-05-19 07:38:47 AM

lucksi: I don't understand why police should come in the first place if an ambulance is called.


They have to secure the scene to protect the first responders.  People like to shoot at firemen and paramedics trying to do their job.
 
2014-05-19 07:43:28 AM

FullMetalPanda: lucksi: I don't understand why police should come in the first place if an ambulance is called.

They have to secure the scene to protect the first responders.  People like to shoot at firemen and paramedics trying to do their job.


People shoot at cabbies and store clerks trying to do their jobs even more often. Do we need police at those job sites all the time too?
 
2014-05-19 07:43:44 AM

FullMetalPanda: lucksi: I don't understand why police should come in the first place if an ambulance is called.

They have to secure the scene to protect the first responders.  People like to shoot at firemen and paramedics trying to do their job.


I love that answer - because it really doesn't matter if you are troling or not.
 
2014-05-19 07:46:44 AM

lucksi: I don't understand why police should come in the first place if an ambulance is called.


Some calls warrant police respose.  Any scene of violence is getting a LE response as well as EMS.  Likewise, people will often call and say 'they need an ambulance' for things like a car wreck.

OD calls are iffy.  Most of the time, we didn't get the PD as part of the Weeners but would request them if needed.

/Did 7 years in suburban EMS.  Still an EMT but now with a fire department that doesn't transport.
 
2014-05-19 07:59:44 AM

abhorrent1: local media is trying to understand why Langley would refuse to allow police to respond to a medical emergency.

First they don't need to be there
Second because they're all tazy, punchy and shooty.

Had they been there someone would probably have ended up dead.


That's why the local asshole media are upset. No cops means no arrest report, and no arrest report means a semiliterate, third rate "journalist" with a degree from a cow college has to actually write words from scratch.
And that's a fuggin tragedy.
Also, when the cops show up, it tends to turn into a bigger, messier story.
And that's good, from their perspective.
 
2014-05-19 08:12:17 AM
In my town, many Police Officers (and Firemen) are certified EMT's and they are usually able to respond and arrive on location faster than the Ambulance Squad.  So there's that.
 
2014-05-19 08:14:23 AM
Probably didn't want the cops to shoot his dog.
 
2014-05-19 08:25:57 AM

jansm38: In my town, many Police Officers (and Firemen) are certified EMT's and they are usually able to respond and arrive on location faster than the Ambulance Squad.  So there's that.


Story takes place in a large city where cops and EMTs are specialized, so, actually - no, there isn't that.
 
2014-05-19 08:27:06 AM
I`d rather the first person who turns up at my medical emergency to not be carrying a gun hopped up in case someone needs shooting.

I know, I`m just weird that way.

Call it a personal foible...
 
2014-05-19 08:29:44 AM

jansm38: In my town, many Police Officers (and Firemen) are certified EMT's and they are usually able to respond and arrive on location faster than the Ambulance Squad.  So there's that.


do you really want someone with a BA in medical technology and a PHD in death dealing to show up to help you or would you rather it be the reverse of that?
 
2014-05-19 08:33:46 AM
My 2¢ is this: I do not trust police. I view them as rabid dogs. If you don't treat them with bunny gloves (gloves so soft they tickle - those of you into BDSM will know what I am talking about). If you don't, you will likely be (a combination of: tasered, maced, beat, shot/killed), and possibly your family pet(s) and one or more family members will suffer the same fate. IF a good cop shows up, I am always shocked and pleasantly surprised.... This way I am never disappointed.

I believe the ratio of good to bad used to much better in the favor of good.... today not so much.

/NOTE: If you are a good cop but do not testify against bad cops, you are a bad cop (personal risk is part of the job)
 
2014-05-19 08:38:42 AM

HotWingConspiracy: SlothB77: They don't allow police? I know who I am going to rob.

Places that allow police get robbed all the time.


frequently by the police.

//lookin at you, Florida
 
2014-05-19 08:42:29 AM

SlothB77: They don't allow police? I know who I am going to rob.


Robbing an anarchist coffee house will get you three bucks, hepatitis, and a long, long lecture about the violence inherent in capitalist systems.

Bring earplugs...their self-defense system is making you want to shoot yourself :)
 
2014-05-19 08:42:35 AM

Satanus Maximus: So the moral of the story is this:

Call the paramedics to save a life.

Call the police to end a life.

/am I doin' it right?


Ha.

/sadly, yes
 
2014-05-19 08:43:34 AM
I'm not surprised. There are many people in that city with that attitude because they've had to deal with so much police corruption.
 
2014-05-19 08:47:32 AM

HindiDiscoMonster: My 2¢ is this: I do not trust police. I view them as rabid dogs. If you don't treat them with bunny gloves (gloves so soft they tickle - those of you into BDSM will know what I am talking about). If you don't, you will likely be (a combination of: tasered, maced, beat, shot/killed), and possibly your family pet(s) and one or more family members will suffer the same fate. IF a good cop shows up, I am always shocked and pleasantly surprised.... This way I am never disappointed.

I believe the ratio of good to bad used to much better in the favor of good.... today not so much.

/NOTE: If you are a good cop but do not testify against bad cops, you are a bad cop (personal risk is part of the job)


I wouldn't put a lot of money on the historic good cop/bad cop ratio...I've read that waterboarding (generally using buckets)(insert walrus meme here) used to be a standard interrogation practice in LOTS of police departments, pre-WWII.

/just saying
 
2014-05-19 08:48:59 AM

PunGent: HindiDiscoMonster: My 2¢ is this: I do not trust police. I view them as rabid dogs. If you don't treat them with bunny gloves (gloves so soft they tickle - those of you into BDSM will know what I am talking about). If you don't, you will likely be (a combination of: tasered, maced, beat, shot/killed), and possibly your family pet(s) and one or more family members will suffer the same fate. IF a good cop shows up, I am always shocked and pleasantly surprised.... This way I am never disappointed.

I believe the ratio of good to bad used to much better in the favor of good.... today not so much.

/NOTE: If you are a good cop but do not testify against bad cops, you are a bad cop (personal risk is part of the job)

I wouldn't put a lot of money on the historic good cop/bad cop ratio...I've read that waterboarding (generally using buckets)(insert walrus meme here) used to be a standard interrogation practice in LOTS of police departments, pre-WWII.

/just saying


I am going much further back than the 20th...
 
2014-05-19 08:49:34 AM

Jorn the Younger: steamingpile: cretinbob: Asking to not send cops, is going to get cops sent.....But I agree, they fark things up for us frequently too

I still blame the war on drugs for scaring and militarizing the local police forces, it was unnecessary but it was all the rage in the 80s.getting police departments (and officers) hooked on all that sweet, sweet confiscation money

Yes, I lean right but if you can't admit the drug war is an abject failure of Reagan then you're willfully ignorant.

Remember that Right (on the political spectrum) means conservative, but conservative != Republican, and while the War on Some Drugs was a Republican process, that doesn't make it conservative, or right (on the political spectrum)

Just say no my ass, her heart may have been in the right place but still.....

I would only agree with this from a purely physiological perspective.  While imposing ones own will and personal morality may be a general human trait, that doesn't make it good.


You do know that "getting police departments (and officers) hooked on all that sweet, sweet confiscation money" was a result of the War on Drugstm don't you?
 
2014-05-19 08:52:07 AM

HindiDiscoMonster: ...(gloves so soft they tickle - those of you into BDSM will know what I am talking about).


How YOU doin?
 
2014-05-19 08:52:47 AM
What an outrageous article. Police are professionals who are trained and equipped to solve a medically related problem, or to assist a mentally ill person, with a quick assessment of the situation, followed by a simple lead based euthanasia treatment.
 
2014-05-19 08:56:38 AM
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This way, they'd actually be useful.
 
2014-05-19 09:04:49 AM

rev. dave: Well in current times, police are just looking for some violence to stimulate the boredom of their daily lives.  It was a good call.  They likely would have arrested 2-3 people and shot the victim

and then they came.
 
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