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(Daily Mail)   Bad: Murderer is let out of prison on a day pass. Worse: He fails to return. FARK: For the FOURTH time   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 51
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2014-05-19 12:47:33 AM
www.everydaynodaysoff.com
 
2014-05-19 12:48:51 AM
A Fortnight? When did the English stop speaking it?
 
2014-05-19 12:54:43 AM
ww4.hdnux.com
 
2014-05-19 12:57:27 AM
 
2014-05-19 12:58:43 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: [ww4.hdnux.com image 628x297]


3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-05-19 01:01:06 AM
What, was he in a Canadian prison?
 
2014-05-19 01:01:33 AM
Fool me three times, shame on you...
 
2014-05-19 01:03:05 AM

Ex-Texan: What, was he in a Canadian prison?


Do you promise to come back?
I sure do.
Ok then have a good one eh.
 
2014-05-19 01:06:51 AM

Arkanaut: Fool me three times, shame on you...


With 'fortnight' in play it should be

Fool me thrice, shame on you...
 
2014-05-19 01:06:56 AM
"You're in the wrong line, dumbass."
 
2014-05-19 01:09:20 AM
He's run away three times in the past and they let him out a fourth time?  Normally, I don't root for the criminal but the morons who keep letting him out deserve every bit of trouble they get.
 
2014-05-19 01:09:58 AM
Moffett, who has swastika tattoos on his arms, was jailed for seven years in 2006 for a two-month spree of 'professionally executed robberies'.

He threatened shop workers with a nail gun in a series of raids on off- licences in Blackburn. He was caught after an employee slipped an explosive dye pack into a bundle of cash.


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2014-05-19 01:12:34 AM
The perp in question:

i.cdn.turner.com

/Jackknife from 'Superjail'
 
2014-05-19 01:15:32 AM
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
 
2014-05-19 01:16:18 AM
 
2014-05-19 01:17:17 AM

Bigdogdaddy: Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.


Have you tried turning it off and on again?
 
2014-05-19 01:17:53 AM
Thats fine. Hes still stuck in Great Britain and wont be able to murder anyone elsewhere. The murderer no doubt is unable to live without the dole in some fashion whether it be council housing and foodstuffs or prison. He will be back at prison hat in hand asking to be let back in once he gets cold or hungry.
 
2014-05-19 01:18:12 AM
farm3.staticflickr.com
 
2014-05-19 01:20:04 AM
Michael 'Skull Cracker' Wheatley

"If you're dying, but not dead, stomp once. If you're dead, obviously no stomps. And two stomps if you're not dead. Lemme just run through that again: If you're dying but not dead stomp just once. If you're dead, obviously you won't be stomping. And if you're not dead, give me two stomps."
 
2014-05-19 01:21:13 AM

jtown: Bigdogdaddy: Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?


Actually, I did that and left it off and went and got a cup of coffee and THEN tried it again....
 
2014-05-19 02:03:02 AM
Okay, I could understand a field trip for non-violent offenders, but what's up with unsupervised day passes?

Also, if I read that right, he was given 18 years in 1991. He'd be free now if he'd returned on time previously.
 
2014-05-19 02:03:20 AM
Well if he's done it before and come back without harm, why're they so worried.
 
2014-05-19 02:12:43 AM
Wait, he served the European idea of time and scuttles?
 
2014-05-19 02:14:06 AM
I guess this means Michael Dukakis isn't going to win the presidential election, then.
 
2014-05-19 02:30:47 AM
"Day Pass for a Murderer" sounds like something J. D. Salinger  would have written.
 
2014-05-19 02:34:32 AM

BigLuca: Moffett, who has swastika tattoos on his arms, was jailed for seven years in 2006 for a two-month spree of 'professionally executed robberies'.

He threatened shop workers with a nail gun in a series of raids on off- licences in Blackburn. He was caught after an employee slipped an explosive dye pack into a bundle of cash.


Now that is a cute puppy
 
2014-05-19 02:43:16 AM
Dukakis is still an elected official?
 
2014-05-19 02:52:18 AM
At what point does the prison say "Yeah, you know what? We aren't letting you pull this stunt again"?
 
2014-05-19 02:52:52 AM
www.orangejuiceblog.com
 
2014-05-19 02:57:47 AM

jtown: He's run away three times in the past and they let him out a fourth time?  Normally, I don't root for the criminal but the morons who keep letting him out deserve every bit of trouble they get.


He's in an open prison, so he could actually just walk out of there without any permission.

Seems like they're in the process of releasing him. Though he doesn't seem like a good candidate to be released.
 
2014-05-19 03:03:26 AM

wildcardjack: Okay, I could understand a field trip for non-violent offenders, but what's up with unsupervised day passes?

Also, if I read that right, he was given 18 years in 1991. He'd be free now if he'd returned on time previously.


People aren't good with the whole long term planning thing.

Maybe he doesn't really want out,  3 hots and a cot for free.
 
2014-05-19 03:10:12 AM
I'm more amazed that the Daily Mail is reporting on a news event that actually happened in the UK.
 
2014-05-19 03:11:45 AM

spawn73: jtown: He's run away three times in the past and they let him out a fourth time?  Normally, I don't root for the criminal but the morons who keep letting him out deserve every bit of trouble they get.

He's in an open prison, so he could actually just walk out of there without any permission.

Seems like they're in the process of releasing him. Though he doesn't seem like a good candidate to be released.


Not really.  At least not according to an interview I saw with another former inmate at the prison where the Skull Cracker failed to return.  He said things were pretty lax and people who didn't return on time weren't even disciplined, but you couldn't just walk out.

It's still a pretty stupid way to run a prison.
 
2014-05-19 03:48:57 AM

gfid: Not really. At least not according to an interview I saw with another former inmate at the prison where the Skull Cracker failed to return. He said things were pretty lax and people who didn't return on time weren't even disciplined, but you couldn't just walk out.


Open prisons in the UK have very minimal security. Perhaps it's correct to say you couldn't just walk out. You might have to hop a chain link fence instead. They are intended for non violent offenders & people who've served their term and are shortly due for release. Presumably they're seen as a form of rehabilitation - allowing the person the ability to leave the prison for short visits but providing some measure supervision. Kind of like a halfway house but still part of the prison system.

I suppose that means that even career criminals with swastika tattoos or nicknames like Skull Cracker will end up in there when their sentence is due up. I don't see it as a bad thing either. Look what happened in this case - these morons violated the very liberal regime of these places and will now get thrown back into prison, presumably for longer than if they had just behaved themselves.
 
2014-05-19 03:51:33 AM

gfid: spawn73: jtown: He's run away three times in the past and they let him out a fourth time?  Normally, I don't root for the criminal but the morons who keep letting him out deserve every bit of trouble they get.

He's in an open prison, so he could actually just walk out of there without any permission.

Seems like they're in the process of releasing him. Though he doesn't seem like a good candidate to be released.

Not really.  At least not according to an interview I saw with another former inmate at the prison where the Skull Cracker failed to return.  He said things were pretty lax and people who didn't return on time weren't even disciplined, but you couldn't just walk out.

It's still a pretty stupid way to run a prison.


I guess open prisons are different in the UK.

I disagree that its stupid. The idea with open prisons are that they're a gateway for reintroducing prisoners to society. You don't get to one, unless you're in the process of being released.
 
2014-05-19 05:15:27 AM
In Denmark the concept that you could just escape is kinda build into the system.

Prisoners feel "locked up", if they have no apparent way of just walking out of there. Once escaping is a possibility, they generally don't, and in return act a lot better inside as well.


Super dangerous prisoners, who are judged an escape risk, are put in less friendly prisons.
 
2014-05-19 06:12:34 AM
We give murderers day passes? And multiple chances on them even when they violate their passes? If this isn't rock solid proof that our legal system is broken beyond repair i don't know what is.
 
2014-05-19 06:13:38 AM

drxym: gfid: Not really. At least not according to an interview I saw with another former inmate at the prison where the Skull Cracker failed to return. He said things were pretty lax and people who didn't return on time weren't even disciplined, but you couldn't just walk out.

Open prisons in the UK have very minimal security. Perhaps it's correct to say you couldn't just walk out. You might have to hop a chain link fence instead. They are intended for non violent offenders & people who've served their term and are shortly due for release. Presumably they're seen as a form of rehabilitation - allowing the person the ability to leave the prison for short visits but providing some measure supervision. Kind of like a halfway house but still part of the prison system.

I suppose that means that even career criminals with swastika tattoos or nicknames like Skull Cracker will end up in there when their sentence is due up. I don't see it as a bad thing either. Look what happened in this case - these morons violated the very liberal regime of these places and will now get thrown back into prison, presumably for longer than if they had just behaved themselves.


It`s a win-win. If you can`t behave with only a slight reduction in security then I sure as hell don`t want you in a pub near me getting drunk...
 
2014-05-19 06:14:50 AM

Dirty J1: We give murderers day passes? And multiple chances on them even when they violate their passes? If this isn't rock solid proof that our legal system is broken beyond repair i don't know what is.


Never mind, saw was in England. Lets hope America doesn't adopt this kind of thing. Let England be stupid all they want.
 
2014-05-19 07:29:34 AM
Can't we pass a law that being  a neo-Nazi in the commission of a crime carries an automatic death penalty? These asswipes have to be even below pedophiles on the "Blights to Humanity" scale.
 
2014-05-19 07:36:49 AM
Excuse me there must be some kind of mistake, I was actually supposed to be getting out of jail today.
 
2014-05-19 07:42:23 AM
I read this and it reminds me of Willie Horton, he murdered somebody but got weekend passes but did more dirty work:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willie_Horton


www.commonwealthmagazine.org
 
2014-05-19 07:45:58 AM

Dirty J1: Never mind, saw was in England. Lets hope America doesn't adopt this kind of thing. Let England be stupid all they want.


Yes because parole, probation, electronic tagging and other forms of early release simply don't exist in the US do they?
 
2014-05-19 07:51:32 AM

fusillade762: Michael 'Skull Cracker' Wheatley

"If you're dying, but not dead, stomp once. If you're dead, obviously no stomps. And two stomps if you're not dead. Lemme just run through that again: If you're dying but not dead stomp just once. If you're dead, obviously you won't be stomping. And if you're not dead, give me two stomps."


Awww, those were the crap turrets, weren't they?
 
2014-05-19 08:22:59 AM

Dirty J1: Dirty J1: We give murderers day passes? And multiple chances on them even when they violate their passes? If this isn't rock solid proof that our legal system is broken beyond repair i don't know what is.

Never mind, saw was in England. Lets hope America doesn't adopt this kind of thing. Let England be stupid all they want.


SC has a prison without a fence, because it's for prisoners getting close to being released, as in a couple months to go on their time.  They are often trusted with keys to the prison van.  I know, I used to play softball with a team from that jail, at an off site field, and no guards.

Once in a while, an idiot would run off from the jail, and earned himself a whole new felony.  However, no one ever screamed close the jail.  Of course mind you, not one of those run away inmates killed anybody, they just wanted to get some tail before they were formally allowed to.
 
2014-05-19 09:57:33 AM

Arkanaut: Fool me three times, shame on you...


Well, going by the original phrase, twice is shame on me.

I think by the forth time it is "Shoot me in the head".
 
2014-05-19 10:59:41 AM

Arkanaut: Fool me three times, shame on you...


Really.  Is the dumba*s tag on vacation?
 
2014-05-19 11:10:53 AM

Boo_Guy: wildcardjack: Okay, I could understand a field trip for non-violent offenders, but what's up with unsupervised day passes?

Also, if I read that right, he was given 18 years in 1991. He'd be free now if he'd returned on time previously.

People aren't good with the whole long term planning thing.

Maybe he doesn't really want out,  3 hots and a cot for free.


They ought to bring back (or in the UK) start chain gangs.  IMO that would be very efficient in reducing the incidence of recidivism.
 
2014-05-19 11:26:42 AM

Boo_Guy: Arkanaut: Fool me three times, shame on you...

With 'fortnight' in play it should be

Fool me thrice, shame on you thee..


And now it rhymes with your previous line :D
 
2014-05-19 12:33:50 PM
lack of warmth: they just wanted to get some tail before they were formally allowed to.

Why would they ever want to leave prison then? Isn't sex practically guaranteed there?
 
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